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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » December 27th, 2014, 10:51 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:Can everyone please learn how to spell his name. It's AndersEn. The guy was our head couch for hell sakes!
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Post by 3rdGenAggie » December 27th, 2014, 11:12 pm

So, if Whitt ends up at byu, does the fallout ultimately hurt USU? I hope not, but I can see it happening.

It would help byu, which is horrible, but I would lose it if the fallout ultimately ended with us losing Wells or something.


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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by EarlOfHemsley » December 28th, 2014, 1:02 am

*sips hot chocolate*

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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by hickaggie » December 28th, 2014, 1:49 am

3rdGenAggie wrote:So, if Whitt ends up at byu, does the fallout ultimately hurt USU? I hope not, but I can see it happening.

It would help byu, which is horrible, but I would lose it if the fallout ultimately ended with us losing Wells or something.
First, I'm not sure how much Whitt is an upgrade to BYU. You replace an odd coach with a reputation for great defenses with another coach who brings the same skill set and struggles even more with managing the offensive side of the game. Add a lot of water under the bridge and a whole different attitude toward the honor code and football than when Whit was there and the extra money to retain him and perhaps buy out Utah doesn't seem worth it.

Second, the mere logistics of GA leaving Oregon State for an in conference rival while under contract and having stolen the Utes top assistant who apparently signed a six year contract may be more expensive and messy than its worth.

Third, we lose Matt next year anyway unless the season is a total dud. I personally hope that it happens while Orlando is available and he is promoted while keeping the rest of the defensive staff intact. To me continuity with the Defense and Polynesian assistants is critical to moving this thing forward.



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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by bullshot » December 28th, 2014, 8:17 am

In this 3 way.....trade, is there any way this works out better for USU than the current situation?



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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by NorCalAggie » December 28th, 2014, 4:26 pm

Sorry, I know this is crazy, but this worst case scenario has been on my mind.

1) Whitt to BYU
2) Utah fires Hill
3) Utah hires Barnes
4) GA and Company to Utah
5) Wells and staff to OSU
6) When the music stops Rosco is without a chair*

*who cares



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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by GeoAg » December 28th, 2014, 4:55 pm

NorCalAggie wrote:Sorry, I know this is crazy, but this worst case scenario has been on my mind.

1) Whitt to BYU
2) Utah fires Hill
3) Utah hires Barnes
4) GA and Company to Utah
5) Wells and staff to OSU
6) When the music stops Rosco is without a chair*

*who cares
Are you serious that that scenario is worrying you? :crazy:


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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by hickaggie » December 28th, 2014, 6:30 pm

NorCalAggie wrote:Sorry, I know this is crazy, but this worst case scenario has been on my mind.

1) Whitt to BYU
2) Utah fires Hill
3) Utah hires Barnes
4) GA and Company to Utah
5) Wells and staff to OSU
6) When the music stops Rosco is without a chair*

*who cares
So USU ends up with Dr. Hill and Roscoe :rant:

Seriously stranger things have happened but Utah is not firing Hill and as badly as Andersen may want it, I'm not sure Utah would take on that kind of mess with buyouts including Sitake exc. so that Gary can decide that he really loves Southern California in a couple of years.

Finally, why in the hell would Whit want to go to BYU. If he couldn't get along with Hill how is he going to deal with the Dog and Pony show that Roscoe had to put on? BYU's program is a different animal than when he played for Edwards when the HC and admissions offices played last fiddle to the football program and certain directors weren't worried about the positive press of gang rapes and brawls.

Whit should dig in his heels, make Utah fire him and live good for a year or two on his contract doing TV analysis and whatever Urban Meyer said he was going to do with his family.



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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by dyedblue » December 28th, 2014, 8:41 pm

Hans, Gordon Monson, Kevin Graham, and now Spence Checketts

@1280Spence: Kyle Whittingham has yet to inform assistant coaches of official plans to leave, but has said/done enough to indicate he's gone. Stay tuned.

I cannot believe what is happening on the hill.


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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by brownjeans » December 28th, 2014, 10:10 pm

Unless things have changed between Andersen and Whitt, I can't see Andersen taking the Utah job. Andersen declined a previous job and all but quit college coaching once before because he felt Whitt wasn't treated right by Idaho State. If he did that then, and operates with any consistency, why would he take the Utah job where Whitt and other coaches are not being treated right?

I'm guessing that the reason Andersen choose to take the OSU job instead of waiting to see what happened at Utah is because he was told of what was happening with Dr. Hill and the coaching staff at Utah and Andersen decided that even if Whitt took a better job, Utah was not the place it once was.



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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by dyedblue » December 28th, 2014, 10:22 pm

I too think Andersen is not going anywhere as he is on thin ice as it is. Moving to Utah now would be complete character suicide. That being said if GA is flashed a wad of cash he'd move in a heartbeat. We have seen with both Wisconsin and Oregon State that a huge wad isn't even needed just a little more than he has now.


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Post by Imakeitrain » December 28th, 2014, 10:46 pm

Andersen was paid quite a bit more to go to Wisconsin. The OSU move does not seem to be a financial move at all. I do agree that the timing for Andersen to move to Utah is terrible, and if Whittingham is being forced out, and the Utes approach Andersen... I think Gary is really going to put a lot of weight on Whittingham's opinion.

If Utah wants Andersen they should give Whittingham another year. Gary is putting together a sound coaching staff at Oregon State. If he does move to Utah... what will his staff look like. Sitake wont go back. Arranda will not move from Wisconsin for Utah. Maybe he'll get Todd Orlando- although I am unaware that they have worked together or have any connection.

What about the OC... Wells isn't going to be downgraded, maybe he can sway Baldwin or McGiven to join him in Utah..

Or he could bring in an unfamiliar staff... at the end of the day. Utah missed their chance for Andersen, and Andersen will be in Corvallis next year.

I talked to a few Ute fans that think they'll get Mullen. They are insane, if Mullen wouldn't go to Florida no way he goes to Utah. Utah's best chance is to go after a coordinator like Scott Frost.



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Post by dyedblue » December 28th, 2014, 11:04 pm

Andersen got good money to go to Wisconsin but far less than the going rate.


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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by aggieaggie » December 29th, 2014, 8:49 am

ratofallaggies wrote:Can everyone please learn how to spell his name. It's AndersEn. The guy was our head coach for hell sakes!
Sorry, I meant Anderson. Thanks for correcting.



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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » December 29th, 2014, 8:51 am

aggieaggie wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Can everyone please learn how to spell his name. It's AndersEn. The guy was our head coach for hell sakes!
Sorry, I meant Andersen. Thanks for correcting.
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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by UtahStizzle » December 29th, 2014, 9:50 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
aggieaggie wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Can everyone please learn how to spell his name. It's AndersEn. The guy was our head coach for hell sakes!
Sorry, I meant Andersen. Thanks for correcting.
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Nice fix, don't get why people can't spell Anderson's name right. It's Anderson, not Anderson.


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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by GeoAg » December 29th, 2014, 9:59 am

UtahStizzle wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
aggieaggie wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Can everyone please learn how to spell his name. It's AndersEn. The guy was our head coach for hell sakes!
Sorry, I meant Andersen. Thanks for correcting.
FIFY.
Nice fix, don't get why people can't spell Anderson's name right. It's Anderson, not Anderson.
lol, I don't care how you spell Gary's name anymore.

You better spell Chasen and Hagen's name right, however.


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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » December 29th, 2014, 11:31 am

GeoAg wrote:
UtahStizzle wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
aggieaggie wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Can everyone please learn how to spell his name. It's AndersEn. The guy was our head coach for hell sakes!
Sorry, I meant Andersen. Thanks for correcting.
FIFY.
Nice fix, don't get why people can't spell Anderson's name right. It's Anderson, not Anderson.
lol, I don't care how you spell Gary's name anymore.

You better spell Chason and Hagon's name right, however.
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Post by aggieaggie » December 29th, 2014, 12:05 pm

UtahStizzle wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
aggieaggie wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Can everyone please learn how to spell his name. It's AndersEn. The guy was our head coach for hell sakes!
Sorry, I meant Andersen. Thanks for correcting.
FIFY.
Nice fix, don't get why people can't spell Anderson's name right. It's Anderson, not Anderson.
Sorry again, I meant Anderson. Thanks. What was I thinking? I don't get it either, I hate people like me.



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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by ratofallaggies » December 29th, 2014, 12:09 pm

aggieaggie wrote:
UtahStizzle wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
aggieaggie wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Can everyone please learn how to spell his name. It's AndersEn. The guy was our head coach for hell sakes!
Sorry, I meant Andersen. Thanks for correcting.
FIFY.
Nice fix, don't get why people can't spell Anderson's name right. It's Anderson, not Anderson.
Sorry again, I meant Anderson. Thanks. What was I thinking? I don't get it either, I hate people like me.
Thanks Aggeagge



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Post by Detroit-Aggie » December 29th, 2014, 12:22 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:
aggieaggie wrote:
UtahStizzle wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
aggieaggie wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Can everyone please learn how to spell his name. It's AndersEn. The guy was our head coach for hell sakes!
Sorry, I meant Andersen. Thanks for correcting.
FIFY.
Nice fix, don't get why people can't spell Anderson's name right. It's Anderson, not Anderson.
Sorry again, I meant Anderson. Thanks. What was I thinking? I don't get it either, I hate people like me.
Thanks Aggeagge
As long as Anderson doesn't sway Keaton to come play quartersback out at Ohio State University, I'm okay with it.



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Post by UtahStizzle » December 29th, 2014, 3:24 pm

aggieaggie wrote:
UtahStizzle wrote:
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
aggieaggie wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:Can everyone please learn how to spell his name. It's AndersEn. The guy was our head coach for hell sakes!
Sorry, I meant Andersen. Thanks for correcting.
FIFY.
Nice fix, don't get why people can't spell Anderson's name right. It's Anderson, not Anderson.
Sorry again, I meant Anderson. Thanks. What was I thinking? I don't get it either, I hate people like me.
Are you serious? It's ANDERSON.


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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by VegasAggie71 » December 29th, 2014, 5:05 pm

Whitt is staying:




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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by Chatman » December 29th, 2014, 5:34 pm

I don't know that this means he is staying. It just means he is still the football coach at this time.



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Post by BLUERUFiO » December 29th, 2014, 5:36 pm

Chatman wrote:I don't know that this means he is staying. It just means he is still the football coach at this time.
And that Chris Hill tried.


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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by 3rdGenAggie » December 29th, 2014, 5:43 pm

They wouldn't have released anything unless the current craziness was over. New craziness could come up, but they've moved on from this one, I would think.


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Post by ChowderAggie » December 29th, 2014, 5:45 pm

So now coordinators at Utah are making more than our head coach?



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Post by jimbo » December 29th, 2014, 6:35 pm

If Whitt doesn't come back, will Hill try to poach Wells?



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Post by Elkaggie » December 29th, 2014, 8:51 pm

Ksl reporting that Whit is staying.



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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by TheAKAggie » December 29th, 2014, 8:52 pm

Doesn't even call himself Dr. Hill, no respect.


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Post by SuperiorBlueDiver » December 29th, 2014, 9:48 pm

BLUERUFiO wrote:
Chatman wrote:I don't know that this means he is staying. It just means he is still the football coach at this time.
And that Chris Hill tried.
This^ Hill is simply trying to
Deflect the criticism levied at him. That's all.



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Post by treesap32 » December 29th, 2014, 9:50 pm

SuperiorBlueDiver wrote:
BLUERUFiO wrote:
Chatman wrote:I don't know that this means he is staying. It just means he is still the football coach at this time.
And that Chris Hill tried.
This^ Hill is simply trying to
Deflect the criticism levied at him. That's all.
Exactly



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Re: Sit back and pop some popcorn

Post by ChowderAggie » December 29th, 2014, 10:21 pm

I thought it was odd that Hill indicated the specifics of the offer (i.e., $750k...).



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Post by treesap32 » December 29th, 2014, 10:26 pm

ChowderAggie wrote:I thought it was odd that Hill indicated the specifics of the offer (i.e., $750k...).
Again, he's just trying to deflect the blame. Selfish move.



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Post by utaggies » December 29th, 2014, 10:32 pm

ChowderAggie wrote:So now coordinators at Utah are making more than our head coach?
I have no idea how USU can compete in this arms race. As a G-5 school the only way of protecting your coaches is for them to have a poor to mediocre year (see BYU football) so that no one wants them. I don't know where it ends unless its FCS-land.



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