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Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by aceofspadeskb » December 8th, 2015, 11:32 am

As per 1280.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by truetrueag » December 8th, 2015, 11:33 am

Interesting...



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by AggieDude » December 8th, 2015, 11:38 am

I wonder who we've got as potential candidates from outside of the program. I'm not convinced the answer comes from within the ranks.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by GameFAQSAggie » December 8th, 2015, 11:41 am

Maybe someone from the American Conference. USUBlue always talked on the radio about those offenses being better than ours.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by AggieVoice » December 8th, 2015, 11:49 am

Why not Bouknight?



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by jeepnfonz » December 8th, 2015, 11:52 am

AggieVoice wrote:Why not Bouknight?
I agree with this. But again. I'm not the coach. Matt Wells will do great and he will make sure we get the right person.


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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by TheSauerkrautKid » December 8th, 2015, 11:54 am

AggieVoice wrote:Why not Bouknight?
If Wells got his nod after a year Bouknight has more than paid his dues. I am all on the Javon train.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by Empire of Dirt » December 8th, 2015, 12:04 pm

This is going to sound a lot more negative than I mean it to. But....

This coaching staff needs some adult supervision. I really think that we need to bring in an offensive mind with a long résumé who can help mentor Wells.

I really like Javon, but I hope they do not promote him, otherwise I'm afraid our offense next year will make us miss this year.

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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by Reckoner » December 8th, 2015, 12:13 pm

Empire of Dirt wrote:This is going to sound a lot more negative than I mean it to. But....

This coaching staff needs some adult supervision. I really think that we need to bring in an offensive mind with a long résumé who can help mentor Wells.

I really like Javon, but I hope they do not promote him, otherwise I'm afraid our offense next year will make us miss this year.

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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by jeepnfonz » December 8th, 2015, 12:15 pm

No on chow


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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by jeepnfonz » December 8th, 2015, 12:16 pm

We need a young gun willing to have fun and be exciting


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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by USUBlue » December 8th, 2015, 12:17 pm

jeepnfonz wrote:
AggieVoice wrote:Why not Bouknight?
I agree with this. But again. I'm not the coach. Matt Wells will do great and he will make sure we get the right person.


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Why do you believe Wells will get the "right person"? So far Wells' offenses have been getting worse every year -- his offensive track record is poor. What we really need is a new offensive line coach.
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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » December 8th, 2015, 12:38 pm

I think if Javon gets the role then Matt will micro manage the offense even more than the past 3 years. It has to be someone with enough clout to allow Matt to trust him and leave him alone.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by sammyhagar » December 8th, 2015, 12:43 pm

as long as we run that play with the wide-outs going either to the far left or far right, you know the one where the QB has to throw the ball 30 yards east or west, hope that it is not intercepted, that is is not a lateral and dropped, and that two blocks are made perfectly, and if so, it goes for a one yard gain or a one yard loss ? our new guy has to learn this play.
.. what would a game be like if we didn't see that play ten times too many....
Let's not run things that work, lets keep running the ones that don't work until they do, that's what makes for some good football.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by AggieBlues » December 8th, 2015, 12:48 pm

Wells, I can't Heupel but feel Josh wasn't fully invested in our program. I don't know Weber or not a new o-line coach will Mark a new day for the offense, but maybe we'll Luke out with a new OC. Perhaps it won't Matt'r. Wells, I'm out, Bouknight.


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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by AKAggie03 » December 8th, 2015, 12:49 pm

How does someone who ran our offense so pathetically get promoted to a P5 conference?


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Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by BleedAggieBlue0 » December 8th, 2015, 12:53 pm

AKAggie03 wrote:How does someone who ran our offense so pathetically get promoted to a P5 conference?
He didn't run the offense. You'd have to be legally blind to see that our offense hasn't changed at all even through 3 offensive coordinators. The one constant is Wells. He's very obviously the one calling the shots offensively.


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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » December 8th, 2015, 1:02 pm

AggieBlues wrote:Wells, I can't Heupel but feel Josh wasn't fully invested in our program. I don't know Weber or not a new o-line coach will Mark a new day for the offense, but maybe we'll Luke out with a new OC. Perhaps it won't Matt'r. Wells, I'm out, Bouknight.
:golfclap: Maybe the new coach should adopt your punning game philosophy.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by azaggie » December 8th, 2015, 1:11 pm

jeepnfonz wrote:No on chow


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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by Aglicious » December 8th, 2015, 1:14 pm

AggieBlues wrote:Wells, I can't Heupel but feel Josh wasn't fully invested in our program. I don't know Weber or not a new o-line coach will Mark a new day for the offense, but maybe we'll Luke out with a new OC. Perhaps it won't Matt'r. Wells, I'm out, Bouknight.
pfft... doubt it, so far they have shown they don't have a Clune.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by AggieBlues » December 8th, 2015, 1:18 pm

Aglicious wrote:
AggieBlues wrote:Wells, I can't Heupel but feel Josh wasn't fully invested in our program. I don't know Weber or not a new o-line coach will Mark a new day for the offense, but maybe we'll Luke out with a new OC. Perhaps it won't Matt'r. Wells, I'm out, Bouknight.
pfft... doubt it, so far they have shown they don't have a Clune.
Don't get so defensive. This was a game all about the offense. Now your making me Ungerer. You won't like it when I'm Ungerer.


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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by VegasAggie71 » December 8th, 2015, 1:37 pm

Might not be official just yet:




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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by ratofallaggies » December 8th, 2015, 1:58 pm

It's a done deal



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by BigBlueDart » December 8th, 2015, 2:28 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
AggieBlues wrote:Wells, I can't Heupel but feel Josh wasn't fully invested in our program. I don't know Weber or not a new o-line coach will Mark a new day for the offense, but maybe we'll Luke out with a new OC. Perhaps it won't Matt'r. Wells, I'm out, Bouknight.
:golfclap: Maybe the new coach should adopt your punning game philosophy.
Bring back the attack pun? :shock:



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by ususports » December 8th, 2015, 2:34 pm

sammyhagar wrote:as long as we run that play with the wide-outs going either to the far left or far right, you know the one where the QB has to throw the ball 30 yards east or west, hope that it is not intercepted, that is is not a lateral and dropped, and that two blocks are made perfectly, and if so, it goes for a one yard gain or a one yard loss ? our new guy has to learn this play.
.. what would a game be like if we didn't see that play ten times too many....
Let's not run things that work, lets keep running the ones that don't work until they do, that's what makes for some good football.
+1

That is a funny post, but unfortunately too true.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by mehascrayon » December 8th, 2015, 3:00 pm

Very glad to see Heupel gone. Plain and simple.


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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by StanfordAggie » December 8th, 2015, 3:20 pm

azaggie wrote:
jeepnfonz wrote:No on chow


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Chow as an OC? I'd be all in.


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My guess is that he would be out of our price range, but if he were interested, I think we should be all over that. He was widely considered to be the best OC in football for a very long time. I have heard rumors that he is simply getting old and tired and isn't as committed to football as he used to be. Supposedly at Utah he was going home at 5pm rather than staying until late watching tape. But we could still do far worse. I wonder if he would consider it because of his ties to the state and also might hope that we would give him another chance as a HC if/when Wells leaves. I'd be nervous about that given his record at Hawaii, but it's unclear if he failed because he is not HC material or if Hawaii was simply an impossible situation. But I would love to have him as an OC.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by Naked Bull Rider » December 8th, 2015, 3:23 pm

Who cares who the next OC is? We all know what the offense will look like as long as Wells is still here.

Matt will spend all of 5 minutes this offseason finding himself a new puppet.

Damn! Maybe I will throw my name in the hat... I'll gladly take $90,000 to sit on my (I can't express myself without swearing) and let Wells be Wells!



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Post by CaptainChaos » December 8th, 2015, 3:31 pm

StanfordAggie wrote:
azaggie wrote:
jeepnfonz wrote:No on chow


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Chow as an OC? I'd be all in.


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My guess is that he would be out of our price range, but if he were interested, I think we should be all over that. He was widely considered to be the best OC in football for a very long time. I have heard rumors that he is simply getting old and tired and isn't as committed to football as he used to be. Supposedly at Utah he was going home at 5pm rather than staying until late watching tape. But we could still do far worse. I wonder if he would consider it because of his ties to the state and also might hope that we would give him another chance as a HC if/when Wells leaves. I'd be nervous about that given his record at Hawaii, but it's unclear if he failed because he is not HC material or if Hawaii was simply an impossible situation. But I would love to have him as an OC.
I wouldn't mind having him as OC either, but I'm wondering why he hasn't been mentioned as a replacement for Roscoe at all... It makes me wonder if what you are saying is true, maybe he wants to hang it up.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by StanfordAggie » December 8th, 2015, 3:43 pm

CaptainChaos wrote:
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azaggie wrote:
jeepnfonz wrote:No on chow


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Chow as an OC? I'd be all in.


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My guess is that he would be out of our price range, but if he were interested, I think we should be all over that. He was widely considered to be the best OC in football for a very long time. I have heard rumors that he is simply getting old and tired and isn't as committed to football as he used to be. Supposedly at Utah he was going home at 5pm rather than staying until late watching tape. But we could still do far worse. I wonder if he would consider it because of his ties to the state and also might hope that we would give him another chance as a HC if/when Wells leaves. I'd be nervous about that given his record at Hawaii, but it's unclear if he failed because he is not HC material or if Hawaii was simply an impossible situation. But I would love to have him as an OC.
I wouldn't mind having him as OC either, but I'm wondering why he hasn't been mentioned as a replacement for Roscoe at all... It makes me wonder if what you are saying is true, maybe he wants to hang it up.
I'm guessing he's simply not very high on their list, if he's on the list at all. I doubt he's in high demand after his record at Hawaii. And I've heard he burned some bridges at BYU after he left when he told the Denver Post the story about when Fred Skousen used a word that rhymes with "dinks" to refer to Chinese laborers at a meeting when Chow was in the room.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by brownjeans » December 8th, 2015, 5:30 pm

No on Sanford. Go back and look at the scores in a lot of Sanford games and how many times he ran the ball instead of passed and how many times we punted because we were trying to protect a lead and run clock and couldn't. That guy had a powerful car and would just idle it around town. It was insane. I want a guy who is crazy aggressive, not crazy conservative. Find me a someone more like Chris Petersen, less like Bob Bratkowski.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by AgMac » December 8th, 2015, 5:38 pm

ag4fr wrote:What about bringing back Sanford?

He's still not exactly tearing it up as a HC, but I really thought his approach as an OC was excellent.

Wells is pretty connected and will find someone good. Is Bouknight ready? Is this what he wants at this stage of his career?
Sanford would be my first choice as well. I've said it many times, I think had considerable influence on the offense when he was here during the 2012 season.

I'm against Bouknight for the same reasons that have been stated above - I am going to puke if I have to see the same offense from the past 3 years, and I think Wells would have the reigns firmly in his hand with Bouknight as OC.

In all reality, I don't know that it matters too much who we bring in as OC. I honestly thought that Huepel called some pretty good games. We have some serious problems on offense, starting with the O-line coaching. Wells will never, ever, get rid of Weber. Just try to ask him about the O-line struggles and be prepared for a dismissive, disbelieving, and irritated response. USUBlue's comment in the other Huepel thread regarding the O-line is spot on. We are terrible on most offensive stats, but are near the bottom on 3rd down conversions - and absolutely pitiful on 3rd and short. This is because our O-line does not get a push on the D-line. I don't care that Weber was fired by byu, I care that he was fired. From multiple jobs. Ugh, now I'm depressed thinking about our offense.



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by austingalb » December 8th, 2015, 6:25 pm

"Reliable source says josh Heupel to Missouri is NOT accurate. Mizzou will considering candidates for the position." Via Dave Matter @Dave_Matter



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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by TheAKAggie » December 8th, 2015, 7:22 pm

It's not 1984, no Chow. He was no good at Utah, a few more gray hairs and a little more out of touch is all that has transpired since then.


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Re: Official: Heupel to Missouri

Post by Blue Away » December 8th, 2015, 7:24 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
AggieBlues wrote:Wells, I can't Heupel but feel Josh wasn't fully invested in our program. I don't know Weber or not a new o-line coach will Mark a new day for the offense, but maybe we'll Luke out with a new OC. Perhaps it won't Matt'r. Wells, I'm out, Bouknight.
:golfclap: Maybe the new coach should adopt your punning game philosophy.
You mean the Third Down Attack Pun(t)? :)



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