A lot of the staff is going with Wells

bpd · Post by **bpd** » December 1st, 2018, 6:59 pm

https://www.lubbockonline.com/news/2018 ... ls-at-tech

AndroidAggie · Post by **AndroidAggie** » December 1st, 2018, 7:17 pm

that article is ambiguous

it lists everyone on offense but doesn't say they're *all* going. i'm pretty sure that jovon bouknight has said he's staying (per taniataylor)

/me shrugs

we'll see

Post by **aggies22** » December 1st, 2018, 7:19 pm

Bouknight is going.

AndroidAggie · Post by **AndroidAggie** » December 1st, 2018, 7:27 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2018, 7:19 pm
Bouknight is going.

(I can't express myself without swearing).

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » December 1st, 2018, 7:31 pm

I was hoping to keep some of our assistants. Hopefully we can still keep Maile to bring some stability. Hopefully we can have a coach in place by next weekend.

Elkaggie · Post by **Elkaggie** » December 1st, 2018, 7:56 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2018, 7:19 pm
Bouknight is going.

Ouch. This one hurts almost as much as losing Yost imo.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » December 1st, 2018, 9:18 pm

Don't worry, it was a tough decision for Matt Wells. He agonized over it. In the end, he took everything with him leaving pretty much no coaching infrastructure behind for the program. He really loves USU though, so, we have that going for us.

brian5562 · Post by **brian5562** » December 1st, 2018, 9:25 pm

He obviously offered them jobs and those that are going have accepted.

If the job was going to someone in-house then we would see guys stick around. There is no certainty that the new coach would keep any of these guys on staff.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » December 1st, 2018, 9:42 pm

Right, new coach may or may not keep any of the existing staff. To turn down an offer to go with Wells is to risk not having a job.

Jjoey53 · Post by **Jjoey53** » December 1st, 2018, 10:03 pm

If they have an offer, they got to take it.

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flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » December 1st, 2018, 10:08 pm

I especially get a position coach making a coaching move. You go from 80k/year to 200k/year, that's a big deal. That's life changing. Going from 1M/year to 3M/year just means you can get a lambo if you'd like. Probably not much marginal increase in happiness or quality of life.

taniataylor · Post by **taniataylor** » December 1st, 2018, 11:59 pm

Bo told j he’s going now so Wells must have made quite an offer offer because he told me he was staying

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:05 am

well crap, sure glad we're sitting around and letting Wells continue to poach coaches and I'm sure we'll hear about some players too. Come on Hartwell!

Blue Sage · Post by **Blue Sage** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:07 am

Running backs coach said he's going too but Thompson said he's staying.

IdAggie · Post by **IdAggie** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:26 am

Farmer is going...great o-line coach that transformed our line in the 3 years he was here. Plus, a great guy!

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taniataylor · Post by **taniataylor** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:37 am

Coach Bo told me he was staying....but the whole offensive staff is going with him...

MetsJetsAggies · Post by **MetsJetsAggies** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:40 am

TrueBlueAggie123 · Post by **TrueBlueAggie123** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:42 am

Anyone know about Chuckie? I know he’s only a Quarterbacks coach and a GA but I really feel he can develop into a really outstanding coach.

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:45 am

I honestly don’t see what the big deal is. Most coaches will bring in a new staff anyway and retain maybe only a few guys. As for these coaches, good for them. They deserved a big pay raise for the work they’ve done and they’ve gotten it. Wells is just doing what’s best for him, which is what any of us would do in the same situation.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:49 am

I think this means that Anderson is off the table. So now his guys are no longer interested in sticking around like they were at first.

jackmormon · Post by **jackmormon** » December 2nd, 2018, 8:52 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2018, 9:42 pm
Right, new coach may or may not keep any of the existing staff. To turn down an offer to go with Wells is to risk not having a job.

What he said...

Post by **aggies22** » December 2nd, 2018, 9:09 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2018, 9:42 pm
Right, new coach may or may not keep any of the existing staff. To turn down an offer to go with Wells is to risk not having a job.

If you are an assistant that it currently hanging around and you have a part in holding on to what is shaping up to be the best recruiting class in USU history, the new coach, whoever he is will find a spot for you. Frank and Stacy Collins can keep this together.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » December 2nd, 2018, 9:17 am

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 12:45 am
I honestly don’t see what the big deal is. Most coaches will bring in a new staff anyway and retain maybe only a few guys. As for these coaches, good for them. They deserved a big pay raise for the work they’ve done and they’ve gotten it. Wells is just doing what’s best for him, which is what any of us would do in the same situation.

Yes, we get that. Just don't want to hear another rant from a Wells apologist about how hard he agonized over the decision to leave his beloved alma mater.

He cares so much about kids he recruited from all over the nation that he's taking everything he can and leaving them in Logan with no familiarity left.

Don't worry mom. Send Billy to my school and I will coach him up and and make sure he's taken care of
Hang on...I'm getting a call with a Texas area code and need to take it.

dyedblue · Post by **dyedblue** » December 2nd, 2018, 9:46 am

#redraiderup 806

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brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » December 2nd, 2018, 10:11 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 9:09 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2018, 9:42 pm
Right, new coach may or may not keep any of the existing staff. To turn down an offer to go with Wells is to risk not having a job.
If you are an assistant that it currently hanging around and you have a part in holding on to what is shaping up to be the best recruiting class in USU history, the new coach, whoever he is will find a spot for you. Frank and Stacy Collins can keep this together.

Unless an assistant has a document from the AD guaranteeing a position on the new staff, that assistant is taking a risk. Wells is offering guarantees.

Post by **aggies22** » December 2nd, 2018, 10:15 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 10:11 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 9:09 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2018, 9:42 pm
Right, new coach may or may not keep any of the existing staff. To turn down an offer to go with Wells is to risk not having a job.
If you are an assistant that it currently hanging around and you have a part in holding on to what is shaping up to be the best recruiting class in USU history, the new coach, whoever he is will find a spot for you. Frank and Stacy Collins can keep this together.
Unless an assistant has a document from the AD guaranteeing a position on the new staff, that assistant is taking a risk. Wells is offering guarantees.

Yes. It does sound like he is offering guarantees. To the offensive side of the ball and Julius Brown. I've not seen Frank, Stacy or Uani named anywhere. Hell, even Chuckie has been named as going albeit by footballscoop.com. At least we'll get Dave Kragthorpe off the books. All I know is, it's been really tight lipped.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » December 2nd, 2018, 10:21 am

I'm just saying, it's hard to fault anyone for taking a guarantee vs. sticking around and taking a chance at being unemployed.

Machismo · Post by **Machismo** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:26 am

Maybe Gary will swoop in on Ole Welsy and take some of our old staff back.

TheAKAggie · Post by **TheAKAggie** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:45 am

My concern with GA is he took Klune and McGiven off our hands.

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dyedblue · Post by **dyedblue** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:42 pm

Will we get to see 42 bubble screens a game?

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taniataylor · Post by **taniataylor** » December 5th, 2018, 1:16 pm

newhouse9 · Post by **newhouse9** » December 5th, 2018, 1:23 pm

Crap. I loved Bo.

hickaggie · Post by **hickaggie** » December 5th, 2018, 1:50 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 10:15 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 10:11 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 9:09 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2018, 9:42 pm
Right, new coach may or may not keep any of the existing staff. To turn down an offer to go with Wells is to risk not having a job.
If you are an assistant that it currently hanging around and you have a part in holding on to what is shaping up to be the best recruiting class in USU history, the new coach, whoever he is will find a spot for you. Frank and Stacy Collins can keep this together.
Unless an assistant has a document from the AD guaranteeing a position on the new staff, that assistant is taking a risk. Wells is offering guarantees.
Yes. It does sound like he is offering guarantees. To the offensive side of the ball and Julius Brown. I've not seen Frank, Stacy or Uani named anywhere. Hell, even Chuckie has been named as going albeit by footballscoop.com. At least we'll get Dave Kragthorpe off the books. All I know is, it's been really tight lipped.

You can't blame the assistants over going. They had no control over Wells decision and they have stand to be left without a job vs. a university that can pay 3 times as much. That is the main reason why I hate the delay in this circumstance with a new coach hire. To me its a lot different situation than firing a coach in a program that needs to be rebuilt. You need to get someone in who can make some decisions and offers to provide some continuity because next year is huge to this program in keeping momentum. But on the other hand they probably would all be gone anyway just do to the pay.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » December 5th, 2018, 2:25 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2018, 1:50 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 10:15 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 10:11 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 9:09 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2018, 9:42 pm
Right, new coach may or may not keep any of the existing staff. To turn down an offer to go with Wells is to risk not having a job.
If you are an assistant that it currently hanging around and you have a part in holding on to what is shaping up to be the best recruiting class in USU history, the new coach, whoever he is will find a spot for you. Frank and Stacy Collins can keep this together.
Unless an assistant has a document from the AD guaranteeing a position on the new staff, that assistant is taking a risk. Wells is offering guarantees.
Yes. It does sound like he is offering guarantees. To the offensive side of the ball and Julius Brown. I've not seen Frank, Stacy or Uani named anywhere. Hell, even Chuckie has been named as going albeit by footballscoop.com. At least we'll get Dave Kragthorpe off the books. All I know is, it's been really tight lipped.
You can't blame the assistants over going. They had no control over Wells decision and they have stand to be left without a job vs. a university that can pay 3 times as much. That is the main reason why I hate the delay in this circumstance with a new coach hire. To me its a lot different situation than firing a coach in a program that needs to be rebuilt. You need to get someone in who can make some decisions and offers to provide some continuity because next year is huge to this program in keeping momentum. But on the other hand they probably would all be gone anyway just do to the pay.

On of the reasons I like Hill as a possible replacement is that he'll bring most his staff with him.

AGGIEinIOWA · Post by **AGGIEinIOWA** » December 5th, 2018, 2:38 pm

brownjeans wrote:
hickaggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2018, 1:50 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 10:15 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 10:11 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 9:09 am

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 1st, 2018, 9:42 pm
Right, new coach may or may not keep any of the existing staff. To turn down an offer to go with Wells is to risk not having a job.
If you are an assistant that it currently hanging around and you have a part in holding on to what is shaping up to be the best recruiting class in USU history, the new coach, whoever he is will find a spot for you. Frank and Stacy Collins can keep this together.
Unless an assistant has a document from the AD guaranteeing a position on the new staff, that assistant is taking a risk. Wells is offering guarantees.
Yes. It does sound like he is offering guarantees. To the offensive side of the ball and Julius Brown. I've not seen Frank, Stacy or Uani named anywhere. Hell, even Chuckie has been named as going albeit by footballscoop.com. At least we'll get Dave Kragthorpe off the books. All I know is, it's been really tight lipped.
You can't blame the assistants over going. They had no control over Wells decision and they have stand to be left without a job vs. a university that can pay 3 times as much. That is the main reason why I hate the delay in this circumstance with a new coach hire. To me its a lot different situation than firing a coach in a program that needs to be rebuilt. You need to get someone in who can make some decisions and offers to provide some continuity because next year is huge to this program in keeping momentum. But on the other hand they probably would all be gone anyway just do to the pay.
On of the reasons I like Hill as a possible replacement is that he'll bring most his staff with him.[/]

Would sure save on relocation expenses. May even be able to get the EQ to load/unload the trucks and the RS to drop off some casseroles.

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