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Hartwell blowing it

Post by utahcountyaggie » December 2nd, 2018, 5:30 pm

From inside source:
Gary Anderson said, if you want to hire me, come talk to me. I won’t go through the firm.

Hartwell says he wanted him to go through the process. There’s a hiring firm

After that Gary literally said “F@$# You guys”

WHAT IS HARTWELL DOING?!?!


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by Donman » December 2nd, 2018, 5:34 pm

What's Gary doing?

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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by bluegrouse » December 2nd, 2018, 5:34 pm

If that’s true then that’s on Andersen. Of course, I’d say the chances that that rumor is true is about 2% ....



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by ineptimusprime » December 2nd, 2018, 5:38 pm

If this is true (and I doubt it is), all this indicates is that Gary might still have some mental issues and we would be wise to stay far away.



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by Aggie84025 » December 2nd, 2018, 5:38 pm

I don't know how Hartwell has blown it when he has not even hired anyone yet. Outside of USU I highly doubt that anyone is interested in hiring GA as a head coach. Hartwell is doing the national search through the firm, if Gary is interested I don't know how hard it is to go through the process. By the way I would like us to bring Gary back.



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by Imakeitrain » December 2nd, 2018, 5:39 pm

bluegrouse wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 5:34 pm
If that’s true then that’s on Andersen. Of course, I’d say the chances that that rumor is true is about 2% ....
I agree with this if true.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by 2004AG » December 2nd, 2018, 5:39 pm

utahcountyaggie wrote:From inside source:
Gary Anderson said, if you want to hire me, come talk to me. I won’t go through the firm.

Hartwell says he wanted him to go through the process. There’s a hiring firm

After that Gary literally said “F@$# You guys”

WHAT IS HARTWELL DOING?!?!
Careful. People around here don’t take criticism of Hartwell very well. He doesn’t make mistakes.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by TrueAG » December 2nd, 2018, 5:40 pm

GA has no leverage. USU is the only school that would hire him as a head coach. If he is big timing USU, then forget him. He has skeletons, he doesn't people digging into.



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by jeepnfonz » December 2nd, 2018, 5:41 pm

Classic Gary. Love that man. Wow someone that wants to talk face to face.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by ineptimusprime » December 2nd, 2018, 5:42 pm

2004AG wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 5:39 pm
utahcountyaggie wrote:From inside source:
Gary Anderson said, if you want to hire me, come talk to me. I won’t go through the firm.

Hartwell says he wanted him to go through the process. There’s a hiring firm

After that Gary literally said “F@$# You guys”

WHAT IS HARTWELL DOING?!?!
Careful. People around here don’t take criticism of Hartwell very well. He doesn’t make mistakes.


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So our AD should be criticized for telling a job applicant to submit a job application? Gary sounds like a f***ing psychopath in the OP's (likely BS) scenario.



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by bluegrouse » December 2nd, 2018, 5:45 pm

Also a huge indicator that he is not that hungry for or interested in coming back to Utah State if he can’t even be bothered to follow the process his potential new boss has set up. Yet another giant red flag....

(If true, which is highly questionable...)
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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by YoungBloodAggie » December 2nd, 2018, 5:46 pm

Rumor has it that Gary was a Russian intelligence asset in the 1980s-90s and was brainwashed to kill Hartwell’s family. Well...we all know that Hartwell invented a metal suit to fight crime and protect earth and when he found out he went right at Gary. Thankfully, Wiley was there and prevented Gary from getting killed but now Hartwell and Wiley are enemies!


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by ProvoAggie » December 2nd, 2018, 5:49 pm

utahcountyaggie wrote:From inside source:
Gary Anderson said, if you want to hire me, come talk to me. I won’t go through the firm.

Hartwell says he wanted him to go through the process. There’s a hiring firm

After that Gary literally said “F@$# You guys”

WHAT IS HARTWELL DOING?!?!
He's doing his job. Hartwell doesn't know Gary and is going to properly look into every candidate. Gary needs to go through the proper channels if he wants the job. I'd like to see Gary come back but if this is the situation I side with Hartwell 100%.

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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by BleedAggieBlue0 » December 2nd, 2018, 5:51 pm

utahcountyaggie wrote:From inside source:
Gary Anderson said, if you want to hire me, come talk to me. I won’t go through the firm.

Hartwell says he wanted him to go through the process. There’s a hiring firm

After that Gary literally said “F@$# You guys”

WHAT IS HARTWELL DOING?!?!
You’re an idiot for posting this.
And if what you say is true- than Gary is an idiot too.
But it’s not true.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by bigblue » December 2nd, 2018, 5:53 pm

Holy (I can't express myself without swearing) these threads are out of control. I debating on not getting on here till after some announcement is made.

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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » December 2nd, 2018, 5:53 pm

I doubt that is true, but credit to Hartwell for doing a national search. His last football hire was a home run and his basketball hire here has the program farther along than anyone believed in year one. We have an AD that knows what he is doing.



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by bigblue » December 2nd, 2018, 5:56 pm

Anderson?

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Post by Empire of Dirt » December 2nd, 2018, 6:00 pm

bigblue wrote:Anderson?

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I don't want Gary for a few reasons, but I think the biggest is that I don't want two more years (see what I did there?) Of these goddamn posts.

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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by WasatchAggie » December 2nd, 2018, 6:01 pm

utahcountyaggie wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 5:30 pm
From inside source:
Gary Anderson said, if you want to hire me, come talk to me. I won’t go through the firm.

Hartwell says he wanted him to go through the process. There’s a hiring firm

After that Gary literally said “F@$# You guys”

WHAT IS HARTWELL DOING?!?!
I doubt this. If Laub and other big boosters want Hartwell to talk with Gary, he will talk with Gary. There may be a contractual issue with the headhunter but that is a different issue.



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by utahcountyaggie » December 2nd, 2018, 6:07 pm

Goll there are some real dicks on here.
I find out some information, and thought I’d share it on this board of fellow Aggie fans who may appreciate the information.

You know, when I posted...I was on Gary’s side. Gary is old fashioned. He doesn’t want to talk to some 3rd party firm, he wants to talk to the AD of the University. (Not unlike how most humans prefer to talk to an employee of the company they are calling, rather than a third party outsourced call center)

However, after reading responses, I do see where Hartwel is coming from. I understand why Gary doesn’t want to talk to a third party firm...but I understand that Hartwell doesn’t know him.

Mostly disappointed in the people on here jumping all over me and calling me names. I will keep information to myself in the future and forego being put down by fellow Aggies.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by Smokin Joe » December 2nd, 2018, 6:08 pm

The problem isn't the info, it's the conclusion that if true, it means Hartwell is blowing it. That's what's problematic about the OP.



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by utahcountyaggie » December 2nd, 2018, 6:10 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 6:08 pm
The problem isn't the info, it's the conclusion that if true, it means Hartwell is blowing it. That's what's problematic about the OP.
Thanks, I just said that after reading responses, I’ve seen the other side and that I came to a hasty conclusion.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by MrBiggle » December 2nd, 2018, 6:12 pm

Not sure on your source, but this is not even close to what I am hearing... try again.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by BeNo » December 2nd, 2018, 6:13 pm

Well. Gary lifted our program from a perennial door mat to an annual bowl team. Why do you need a national search to figure out the best head coach for Utah State? Wrong hire and we will need another Gary Andersen to come and lift the program. Will take 6 years to recover if this is the wrong hire.

Gary knows how to win at Utah State. Hartwell has to hire a search firm. Cover your tail approach IMO.

DO ANY OF YOU REMEMBER WHERE WE WERE PRIOR TO GARY? DECADES OF SH*T!
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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by GeoAg » December 2nd, 2018, 6:13 pm

If true, this is Gary blowing it. Nobody else will hire him as a head coach without this either right now.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by Usu0505 » December 2nd, 2018, 6:14 pm

utahcountyaggie wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 6:10 pm
Smokin Joe wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 6:08 pm
The problem isn't the info, it's the conclusion that if true, it means Hartwell is blowing it. That's what's problematic about the OP.
Thanks, I just said that after reading responses, I’ve seen the other side and that I came to a hasty conclusion.
Would never call you names but this info seems highly unlikely. Thanks for sharing what you got though!



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by utahcountyaggie » December 2nd, 2018, 6:16 pm

MrBiggle wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 6:12 pm
Not sure on your source, but this is not even close to what I am hearing... try again.
Biggle, maybe you try again? I’m not sure on YOUR source.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by bigblue » December 2nd, 2018, 6:17 pm

Does anybody remember that game they played in grade school where one person whispers a line to the person sitting next to them, then the next person whispers the line to the next person, then after a few people how much the line has changed? Not trying to bag on anybody's sources but let's think logically about what we're hearing.

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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by Madmartigan » December 2nd, 2018, 6:18 pm

utahcountyaggie wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 6:07 pm
Goll there are some real dicks on here.
I find out some information, and thought I’d share it on this board of fellow Aggie fans who may appreciate the information.

You know, when I posted...I was on Gary’s side. Gary is old fashioned. He doesn’t want to talk to some 3rd party firm, he wants to talk to the AD of the University. (Not unlike how most humans prefer to talk to an employee of the company they are calling, rather than a third party outsourced call center)

However, after reading responses, I do see where Hartwel is coming from. I understand why Gary doesn’t want to talk to a third party firm...but I understand that Hartwell doesn’t know him.

Mostly disappointed in the people on here jumping all over me and calling me names. I will keep information to myself in the future and forego being put down by fellow Aggies.
I'd say you got a bunch of emotional responses after your emotionally charged post.



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Post by Aggiealum13 » December 2nd, 2018, 6:19 pm

This thread reminds me of boogerboard.



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by MrBiggle » December 2nd, 2018, 6:19 pm

utahcountyaggie wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 6:16 pm
MrBiggle wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 6:12 pm
Not sure on your source, but this is not even close to what I am hearing... try again.
Biggle, maybe you try again? I’m not sure on YOUR source.
You don’t have to be, I just know that my source is likely much closer to the truth. Sorry if that offends you.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by SuperiorBlueDiver » December 2nd, 2018, 6:21 pm

If the dirt on GA from Oregon State came to light and USU hired him and it was proven that we had knowledge of it. Let’s just say that would not be good for us.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by USU78 » December 2nd, 2018, 6:23 pm

TrueAG wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 5:40 pm
GA has no leverage. USU is the only school that would hire him as a head coach. If he is big timing USU, then forget him. He has skeletons, he doesn't people digging into.
the ultimate in lowhanging fruit.


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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by brownjeans » December 2nd, 2018, 6:26 pm

2004AG wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 5:39 pm
Careful. People around here don’t take criticism of Hartwell very well. He doesn’t make mistakes.
Likewise, people around here don’t take criticism of GA very well. He's the divine redeemer of Aggie football.



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Re: Hartwell blowing it

Post by utahcountyaggie » December 2nd, 2018, 6:26 pm

MrBiggle wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 6:19 pm
utahcountyaggie wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 6:16 pm
MrBiggle wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 6:12 pm
Not sure on your source, but this is not even close to what I am hearing... try again.
Biggle, maybe you try again? I’m not sure on YOUR source.
You don’t have to be, I just know that my source is likely much closer to the truth. Sorry if that offends you.
I just mean....you have no idea who my source is.
I have no idea who your source is.
There is literally no way possible to know whether your source or my source is more right if we both also do not know who the other source IS.


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