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Who are the finalists?
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I find the mention of Mike Yurcich and Mark Helfrich in this thread interesting. I haven't heard their names with this before.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
Have you ever heard the name Kalani Sitake before? Some people are saying... that he is not happy at his current job. Not saying we should hire him though.brownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:35 pmI find the mention of Mike Yurcich and Mark Helfrich in this thread interesting. I haven't heard their names with this before.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
That sounds like the same nonsense that we heard as the reason to hire Duryea. It doesn't really matter who the players want -- this decision is bigger than the players. Bond will never even play for the new HC. Here's hoping Hartwell hires a great coach and that the great new HC hires some great assistants and that they then recruit some great players and have seasons that entertain fans and win games.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:33 pmYeah, Bond just tweeted that he should be HC so it’s clear that at least some players really like him...Full wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:31 pmThe players want him here. He is a good enough coach he was co-DC for a couple years. I could see Maile getting a promise as a position coach in order stay in Logan and hold things together. I would have liked too keep Spencer. However, the reason Maile is available is very different than the reason Spencer was still in Logan.ViAggie wrote:Frank Maile is like a duck in a pond in back of the house you are looking to buy... he comes with the place, like it or not. Again, not speaking bad about the dude, I think he's solid, I like him, just stating the facts. Maile isn't going anywhere, and he's liked. He comes with the job, it's a package deal, you get the team and you get Maile.
*disclaimer. I know nothing outside the players really want Maile here.
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Bond was a sophomore, no? Is he transferring? I agree with you wholeheartedly, but Bond will play for the new HC.USUBlue wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:51 pmThat sounds like the same nonsense that we heard as the reason to hire Duryea. It doesn't really matter who the players want -- this decision is bigger than the players. Bond will never even play for the new HC. Here's hoping Hartwell hires a great coach and that the great new HC hires some great assistants and that they then recruit some great players and have seasons that entertain fans and win games.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:33 pmYeah, Bond just tweeted that he should be HC so it’s clear that at least some players really like him...Full wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:31 pmThe players want him here. He is a good enough coach he was co-DC for a couple years. I could see Maile getting a promise as a position coach in order stay in Logan and hold things together. I would have liked too keep Spencer. However, the reason Maile is available is very different than the reason Spencer was still in Logan.ViAggie wrote:Frank Maile is like a duck in a pond in back of the house you are looking to buy... he comes with the place, like it or not. Again, not speaking bad about the dude, I think he's solid, I like him, just stating the facts. Maile isn't going anywhere, and he's liked. He comes with the job, it's a package deal, you get the team and you get Maile.
*disclaimer. I know nothing outside the players really want Maile here.
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UMMMM, he's a sophomore with 1 yr left after this season and WILL BE BACKUSUBlue wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:51 pmThat sounds like the same nonsense that we heard as the reason to hire Duryea. It doesn't really matter who the players want -- this decision is bigger than the players. Bond will never even play for the new HC. Here's hoping Hartwell hires a great coach and that the great new HC hires some great assistants and that they then recruit some great players and have seasons that entertain fans and win games.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:33 pmYeah, Bond just tweeted that he should be HC so it’s clear that at least some players really like him...Full wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:31 pmThe players want him here. He is a good enough coach he was co-DC for a couple years. I could see Maile getting a promise as a position coach in order stay in Logan and hold things together. I would have liked too keep Spencer. However, the reason Maile is available is very different than the reason Spencer was still in Logan.ViAggie wrote:Frank Maile is like a duck in a pond in back of the house you are looking to buy... he comes with the place, like it or not. Again, not speaking bad about the dude, I think he's solid, I like him, just stating the facts. Maile isn't going anywhere, and he's liked. He comes with the job, it's a package deal, you get the team and you get Maile.
*disclaimer. I know nothing outside the players really want Maile here.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
I heard that Yost was part of a package deal made between Texas Tech and Matt Wells. It was my understanding that Texas Tech would only hire Matt if he brought Yost along with him. If Yost accepts the USU HC position I wonder what impact this will have on Matt? We already know how it will impact Texas Tech.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
Yep, kind of sounds like when the players wanted Matt Wells to be the next head coach.... Hard to compare football coaching to basketballUSUBlue wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:51 pmThat sounds like the same nonsense that we heard as the reason to hire Duryea. It doesn't really matter who the players want -- this decision is bigger than the players. Bond will never even play for the new HC. Here's hoping Hartwell hires a great coach and that the great new HC hires some great assistants and that they then recruit some great players and have seasons that entertain fans and win games.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:33 pmYeah, Bond just tweeted that he should be HC so it’s clear that at least some players really like him...Full wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:31 pmThe players want him here. He is a good enough coach he was co-DC for a couple years. I could see Maile getting a promise as a position coach in order stay in Logan and hold things together. I would have liked too keep Spencer. However, the reason Maile is available is very different than the reason Spencer was still in Logan.ViAggie wrote:Frank Maile is like a duck in a pond in back of the house you are looking to buy... he comes with the place, like it or not. Again, not speaking bad about the dude, I think he's solid, I like him, just stating the facts. Maile isn't going anywhere, and he's liked. He comes with the job, it's a package deal, you get the team and you get Maile.
*disclaimer. I know nothing outside the players really want Maile here.
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lol, yeah, I've heard that too. I guess BYU's admissions office doesn't care if BYU football sucks and Sitake is pissed that it's preventing him from getting the guys he wants.ViAggie wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:48 pmHave you ever heard the name Kalani Sitake before? Some people are saying... that he is not happy at his current job. Not saying we should hire him though.brownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:35 pmI find the mention of Mike Yurcich and Mark Helfrich in this thread interesting. I haven't heard their names with this before.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
BINGObrownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:03 pmlol, yeah, I've heard that too. I guess BYU's admissions office doesn't care if BYU football sucks and Sitake is pissed that it's preventing him from getting the guys he wants.ViAggie wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:48 pmHave you ever heard the name Kalani Sitake before? Some people are saying... that he is not happy at his current job. Not saying we should hire him though.brownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:35 pmI find the mention of Mike Yurcich and Mark Helfrich in this thread interesting. I haven't heard their names with this before.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
He talked about his hair and persona during a recent interview at TT. He said he does it mainly for recruiting purposes, to set himself apart from the other recruiters. To make himself more memorable and approachable at the same time.ViAggie wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 10:46 amI have heard rumors (only) that Yost is NOT interested in being a HC. Remember, he already "retired" from one job because of stress. I think there's a reason he has the "surfer look" and I'm being honest here. I think he's no-drama Yost, the laid back surfer dude. Not really HC material. NOT to say he wouldn't make a good HC though.
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That’s why you never hook up with a Cougar. Sure they pay for everything but eventually They’ll always end up treating you like a child.ViAggie wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:04 pmBINGObrownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:03 pmlol, yeah, I've heard that too. I guess BYU's admissions office doesn't care if BYU football sucks and Sitake is pissed that it's preventing him from getting the guys he wants.ViAggie wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:48 pmHave you ever heard the name Kalani Sitake before? Some people are saying... that he is not happy at his current job. Not saying we should hire him though.brownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:35 pmI find the mention of Mike Yurcich and Mark Helfrich in this thread interesting. I haven't heard their names with this before.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
Kalani Sitake hasn't done anything to deserve a new job. byu can have him.
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I would absolutely love the hire if he was DC. Not going to happen, but he was fantastic at Utah.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
Uhhhh OKhipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:09 pmThat’s why you never hook up with a Cougar. Sure they pay for everything but eventually They’ll always end up treating you like a child.ViAggie wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:04 pmBINGObrownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:03 pmlol, yeah, I've heard that too. I guess BYU's admissions office doesn't care if BYU football sucks and Sitake is pissed that it's preventing him from getting the guys he wants.ViAggie wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:48 pmHave you ever heard the name Kalani Sitake before? Some people are saying... that he is not happy at his current job. Not saying we should hire him though.brownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:35 pmI find the mention of Mike Yurcich and Mark Helfrich in this thread interesting. I haven't heard their names with this before.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
You seem to be close to GA. Have his thoughts changed over the last several days? I was told that he was not wanting a HC position yet, still has some things that he is working though that would get in the way of HC responsibilities. And no this info did not come from twitter or other public forums.wacfan08 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:24 pmI can tell you parts of that are 100 %true. Some is a guess. I think it is more about Gary and his hang ups from Barry Alvarez telling him what to.treesap32 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:14 pmI think Hartwell telling the new coach that Frank will act as the bridge through the bowl game, and could be retained by the coach if he so desired is completely reasonable.
Having it as a requirement that he be retained permanently as DC or another assistant seems like a big mistake to me.
I don't think it has anything to with Frank. And more to do with "I want to run my own program"
I should have said
Hartwell tells search firm if at all possible we want to keep Frank.
You are right about that.
I 100% know that is not a deal breaker for Hartwell.
I probably chose the wrong words in paraphrasing
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This may start to fall under the fallacy of composition. You may have a point but it has little to do with what happened with Duryea. Two completely separate actions, IMO. I like Maile a lot. Would he be a good HC? , but Maile isn't Duryea.USUBlue wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:51 pmThat sounds like the same nonsense that we heard as the reason to hire Duryea. It doesn't really matter who the players want -- this decision is bigger than the players. Bond will never even play for the new HC. Here's hoping Hartwell hires a great coach and that the great new HC hires some great assistants and that they then recruit some great players and have seasons that entertain fans and win games.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:33 pmYeah, Bond just tweeted that he should be HC so it’s clear that at least some players really like him...Full wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:31 pmThe players want him here. He is a good enough coach he was co-DC for a couple years. I could see Maile getting a promise as a position coach in order stay in Logan and hold things together. I would have liked too keep Spencer. However, the reason Maile is available is very different than the reason Spencer was still in Logan.ViAggie wrote:Frank Maile is like a duck in a pond in back of the house you are looking to buy... he comes with the place, like it or not. Again, not speaking bad about the dude, I think he's solid, I like him, just stating the facts. Maile isn't going anywhere, and he's liked. He comes with the job, it's a package deal, you get the team and you get Maile.
*disclaimer. I know nothing outside the players really want Maile here.
As far as Bond, as has been pointed out, he will play for the next HC barring some tragedy.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
He wanted the USU HC job as soon as there was rumor that Matt was leaving.MrBiggle wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:20 pmYou seem to be close to GA. Have his thoughts changed over the last several days? I was told that he was not wanting a HC position yet, still has some things that he is working though that would get in the way of HC responsibilities. And no this info did not come from twitter or other public forums.wacfan08 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:24 pmI can tell you parts of that are 100 %true. Some is a guess. I think it is more about Gary and his hang ups from Barry Alvarez telling him what to.treesap32 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:14 pmI think Hartwell telling the new coach that Frank will act as the bridge through the bowl game, and could be retained by the coach if he so desired is completely reasonable.
Having it as a requirement that he be retained permanently as DC or another assistant seems like a big mistake to me.
I don't think it has anything to with Frank. And more to do with "I want to run my own program"
I should have said
Hartwell tells search firm if at all possible we want to keep Frank.
You are right about that.
I 100% know that is not a deal breaker for Hartwell.
I probably chose the wrong words in paraphrasing
Re: Who are the finalists?
I am not close to GA.MrBiggle wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:20 pmYou seem to be close to GA. Have his thoughts changed over the last several days? I was told that he was not wanting a HC position yet, still has some things that he is working though that would get in the way of HC responsibilities. And no this info did not come from twitter or other public forums.wacfan08 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:24 pmI can tell you parts of that are 100 %true. Some is a guess. I think it is more about Gary and his hang ups from Barry Alvarez telling him what to.treesap32 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:14 pmI think Hartwell telling the new coach that Frank will act as the bridge through the bowl game, and could be retained by the coach if he so desired is completely reasonable.
Having it as a requirement that he be retained permanently as DC or another assistant seems like a big mistake to me.
I don't think it has anything to with Frank. And more to do with "I want to run my own program"
I should have said
Hartwell tells search firm if at all possible we want to keep Frank.
You are right about that.
I 100% know that is not a deal breaker for Hartwell.
I probably chose the wrong words in paraphrasing
My contacts are in the USU athletic department and in the USU history department.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
Very grateful for the good info in this thread.
Those in the know -- is Jay Hill still coaching a big impediment for him right now as a candidate, or is Gary really just the frontrunner? I can see why he would be, but I'm just wondering if and/or how much Weber's playoff run is affecting our coaching search.
Those in the know -- is Jay Hill still coaching a big impediment for him right now as a candidate, or is Gary really just the frontrunner? I can see why he would be, but I'm just wondering if and/or how much Weber's playoff run is affecting our coaching search.
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No Socks Jonny (I also believe he posts with a pseudonym on here) tweeted this a couple of days ago. Not certain I would favor this, with the exception of making BYU fans heads explode.ViAggie wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:48 pmHave you ever heard the name Kalani Sitake before? Some people are saying... that he is not happy at his current job. Not saying we should hire him though.brownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:35 pmI find the mention of Mike Yurcich and Mark Helfrich in this thread interesting. I haven't heard their names with this before.
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There's nothing really more than his agency reaching out to question about the opening. His agent wouldn't be doing his job if he hadn't checked. Norm Chow wasn't wrong when he said USU is a better job right now that BYU. It's going to become increasingly more difficult for a coach to have success there.Donman wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:28 pmNo Socks Jonny (I also believe he posts with a pseudonym on here) tweeted this a couple of days ago. Not certain I would favor this, with the exception of making BYU fans heads explode.ViAggie wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:48 pmHave you ever heard the name Kalani Sitake before? Some people are saying... that he is not happy at his current job. Not saying we should hire him though.brownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:35 pmI find the mention of Mike Yurcich and Mark Helfrich in this thread interesting. I haven't heard their names with this before.
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Which his why I can't understand the concern about Hill leaving for BYU. Perhaps for the U (but I believe they'd have other internal options ahead of Hill).ratofallaggies wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:30 pmThere's nothing really more than his agency reaching out to question about the opening. His agent wouldn't be doing his job if he hadn't checked. Norm Chow wasn't wrong when he said USU is a better job right now that BYU. It's going to become increasingly more difficult for a coach to have success there.Donman wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:28 pmNo Socks Jonny (I also believe he posts with a pseudonym on here) tweeted this a couple of days ago. Not certain I would favor this, with the exception of making BYU fans heads explode.ViAggie wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:48 pmHave you ever heard the name Kalani Sitake before? Some people are saying... that he is not happy at his current job. Not saying we should hire him though.brownjeans wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:35 pmI find the mention of Mike Yurcich and Mark Helfrich in this thread interesting. I haven't heard their names with this before.
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Finally someone with real insider connections. Can you please find out which side shot first to start the Revolutionary War?wacfan08 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:25 pmI am not close to GA.MrBiggle wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:20 pmYou seem to be close to GA. Have his thoughts changed over the last several days? I was told that he was not wanting a HC position yet, still has some things that he is working though that would get in the way of HC responsibilities. And no this info did not come from twitter or other public forums.wacfan08 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:24 pmI can tell you parts of that are 100 %true. Some is a guess. I think it is more about Gary and his hang ups from Barry Alvarez telling him what to.treesap32 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:14 pmI think Hartwell telling the new coach that Frank will act as the bridge through the bowl game, and could be retained by the coach if he so desired is completely reasonable.
Having it as a requirement that he be retained permanently as DC or another assistant seems like a big mistake to me.
I don't think it has anything to with Frank. And more to do with "I want to run my own program"
I should have said
Hartwell tells search firm if at all possible we want to keep Frank.
You are right about that.
I 100% know that is not a deal breaker for Hartwell.
I probably chose the wrong words in paraphrasing
My contacts are in the USU athletic department and in the USU history department.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
I may be in the minority but I would have preferred Sitake to Wells after GA left. I wonder what the last 6 years would have looked like and where we would be right now....and before someone answers "take a look at BYU", they had/have more issues than just their head coach. Wells has excelled when surrounded by good coordinators and failed when he was taking too much on himself. If Sitake were HC and had guys like Orlando or Yost, I have to think we would be in a similar if not better position. Of course this would be in a vacuum and assuming Sitake wouldn't have jumped ship to BYU after Roscoe left.
I also agree with Rat, that job is going to increasingly be less desirable unless there are major changes down there (and I'm not talking joining a conference). I don't see those changes coming anytime either because the entity that runs the school is on a different path and has different goals than making sure they have a top tier FBS football program.
I also agree with Rat, that job is going to increasingly be less desirable unless there are major changes down there (and I'm not talking joining a conference). I don't see those changes coming anytime either because the entity that runs the school is on a different path and has different goals than making sure they have a top tier FBS football program.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
As long as either JH or GA is our next HC I'll be ecstatic!! Of the others rumored it would be a meh
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Relax. I never said Maile should be the HC. Like just about everyone else, I don’t think he’s ready. Just related what Bond tweeted as a sign that the players like him.USUBlue wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:51 pmThat sounds like the same nonsense that we heard as the reason to hire Duryea. It doesn't really matter who the players want -- this decision is bigger than the players. Bond will never even play for the new HC. Here's hoping Hartwell hires a great coach and that the great new HC hires some great assistants and that they then recruit some great players and have seasons that entertain fans and win games.bluegrouse wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:33 pmYeah, Bond just tweeted that he should be HC so it’s clear that at least some players really like him...Full wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:31 pmThe players want him here. He is a good enough coach he was co-DC for a couple years. I could see Maile getting a promise as a position coach in order stay in Logan and hold things together. I would have liked too keep Spencer. However, the reason Maile is available is very different than the reason Spencer was still in Logan.ViAggie wrote:Frank Maile is like a duck in a pond in back of the house you are looking to buy... he comes with the place, like it or not. Again, not speaking bad about the dude, I think he's solid, I like him, just stating the facts. Maile isn't going anywhere, and he's liked. He comes with the job, it's a package deal, you get the team and you get Maile.
*disclaimer. I know nothing outside the players really want Maile here.
I trust Hartwell to make a great hire just like you...
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Re: Who are the finalists?
Jay Hill has made it clear that he is not the least bit interested in coaching at ybu, and he's LDS. That's saying something (I guess?)
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Hmm. Same here, except for the history department part.wacfan08 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:25 pmI am not close to GA.MrBiggle wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 3:20 pmYou seem to be close to GA. Have his thoughts changed over the last several days? I was told that he was not wanting a HC position yet, still has some things that he is working though that would get in the way of HC responsibilities. And no this info did not come from twitter or other public forums.wacfan08 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:24 pmI can tell you parts of that are 100 %true. Some is a guess. I think it is more about Gary and his hang ups from Barry Alvarez telling him what to.treesap32 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 2:14 pmI think Hartwell telling the new coach that Frank will act as the bridge through the bowl game, and could be retained by the coach if he so desired is completely reasonable.
Having it as a requirement that he be retained permanently as DC or another assistant seems like a big mistake to me.
I don't think it has anything to with Frank. And more to do with "I want to run my own program"
I should have said
Hartwell tells search firm if at all possible we want to keep Frank.
You are right about that.
I 100% know that is not a deal breaker for Hartwell.
I probably chose the wrong words in paraphrasing
My contacts are in the USU athletic department and in the USU history department.
I would welcome Gary back in a heart beat.
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Hey — there’s another potential candidate!
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Re: Who are the finalists?
I rest my case...aggies22 wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 12:27 pmI thought he looked like Sgt. Slaughter.jackmormon wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 11:34 amBrent Guy had "the look."Imakeitrain wrote: ↑December 6th, 2018, 10:28 amYost was a great coordinator. And I know look little to nothing about him- but I’d be interested to know if he has the head coach personality.
Not that it means anything but on TV he doesn’t seem to have “the look”.
For those that know, is he vocal? Does he have head coach personality?
Certainly the possibility of offensive fire power.
Lastly, would any of the players feel he abandoned the team?
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Re: Who are the finalists?
Finalists are Tania, USUBlue, and Vic Koenning.
The real joke though is even if we hired one of those three, our hire would still be better than Maryland’s.
The real joke though is even if we hired one of those three, our hire would still be better than Maryland’s.
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Re: Who are the finalists?
Not really. I mean, I'm LDS and I'm not interested in coaching at BYU, either.
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