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Roderick

Post by Intermeddler » December 11th, 2018, 11:47 pm

Hearing rumors Aaron Roderick will be OC.

Anyone else hearing that?
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Re: Roderick

Post by brownjeans » December 11th, 2018, 11:49 pm

I wasn't hearing it until you brought it up. Now I can't un-hear it.



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Re: Roderick

Post by Intermeddler » December 11th, 2018, 11:53 pm

Yeah it doesn’t excite me either

Hopefully it’s just chatter but the person who told me is involved pretty directly in the Utah football program so it’s possible he may have some knowledge of what Gary is thinking



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Re: Roderick

Post by dyedblue » December 11th, 2018, 11:55 pm

Guy has been around. I think he's been hired and demoted a few times at Utah and took a couple of jobs only to say no thanks and go back to Utah. I'm not sure what to think about this one...Utah has been a mess offensively since Brian Johnson played there.


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Re: Roderick

Post by aggiefan4ever44 » December 11th, 2018, 11:56 pm

Utah did not think much of him and never gave him a chance. He goes to BYU and it’s been bad there too. Hoping he is looking at someone else. OC is going to be a vital hire.


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Re: Roderick

Post by ineptimusprime » December 11th, 2018, 11:58 pm

Aaron Roderick?



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Re: Roderick

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » December 11th, 2018, 11:58 pm

I'll trust Gary, but I agree, not the most exciting hire. I'd prefer having Bouknight come back as OC.



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Re: Roderick

Post by SLB » December 12th, 2018, 12:00 am

From what I saw looking up Roderick, I am not super excited but not disappointed either. Seems like a decent hire can't complain.



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Re: Roderick

Post by MWCFAN12 » December 12th, 2018, 12:03 am

I saw this topic on cougar board Friday night... That and this post are the only times I have heard that.

I have my doubts it will be him. Seems like he might go out of state for that on Washington State to be exact. IMHO



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Re: Roderick

Post by Intermeddler » December 12th, 2018, 12:04 am

ineptimusprime wrote:
December 11th, 2018, 11:58 pm
Aaron Roderick?
Is that his name? The BYU guy. I can never remember. I’ve just heard him called ARod.

I think I combine him in my head with Andy Ludwig
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Re: Roderick

Post by dyedblue » December 12th, 2018, 12:05 am

MWCFAN12 wrote:I saw this topic on cougar board Friday night... That and this post are the only times I have heard that.

I have my doubts it will be him. Seems like he might go out of state for that on Washington State to be exact. IMHO
Until he changes his mind a few days later and goes back to BYU or USU.


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Re: Roderick

Post by Intermeddler » December 12th, 2018, 12:05 am

MWCFAN12 wrote:
December 12th, 2018, 12:03 am
I saw this topic on cougar board Friday night... That and this post are the only times I have heard that.

I have my doubts it will be him. Seems like he might go out of state for that on Washington State to be exact. IMHO
Yeah I’m hopeful it’s just a rumor my friend heard and not his plan. Would be a disappointing choice for sure.



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Re: Roderick

Post by dyedblue » December 12th, 2018, 12:08 am

http://www.espn.com/college-football/ne ... id=3863065

He also flirted with BYU in a like manner a couple of years before he left Utah.


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Re: Roderick

Post by QuackAttackAggie » December 12th, 2018, 12:09 am

Cougar board post says it's a done deal. Just one post.


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Re: Roderick

Post by Chatman » December 12th, 2018, 12:21 am

Seems like a natural fit. He was Andersen’s offensive coordinator at southern Utah many years ago.



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Re: Roderick

Post by IdAggie » December 12th, 2018, 12:25 am

I am not excited and doubtful that this one is true. I know that Gary has at least two candidates for OC coming in over the next few days to check the place out. Nothing has been decided. Gary stated that he wants to keep the same offensive scheme with a few tweaks...I do not think that Roderick fits the scheme based on where he has been.



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Re: Roderick

Post by JFW_AGGIES » December 12th, 2018, 12:31 am

Wouldn't love it, but wouldn't hate it. A-Rod is a heck of a recruiter. This would leave me to believe that things are even worse than I could have imagined down in Provo. :lol:



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Re: Roderick

Post by Intermeddler » December 12th, 2018, 12:37 am

IdAggie wrote:
December 12th, 2018, 12:25 am
I am not excited and doubtful that this one is true. I know that Gary has at least two candidates for OC coming in over the next few days to check the place out. Nothing has been decided. Gary stated that he wants to keep the same offensive scheme with a few tweaks...I do not think that Roderick fits the scheme based on where he has been.
I hope this is the case. Not sure Roderick has ever been part of a good offense and not sure he has an offensive philosophy of any kind either and if he does none of the offenses he’s been involved with look anything like ours



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Re: Roderick

Post by blueblood » December 12th, 2018, 7:00 am

JFW_AGGIES wrote:Wouldn't love it, but wouldn't hate it. A-Rod is a heck of a recruiter. This would leave me to believe that things are even worse than I could have imagined down in Provo. :lol:
Listening to 1280, things in Provo are a complete dumpster fire and most of the coaches are sick of the BS. I agree with you on A-Rod, not my top choice, but he could do well in Logan.


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Re: Roderick

Post by FloridaAggie13 » December 12th, 2018, 7:04 am

JFW_AGGIES wrote:
December 12th, 2018, 12:31 am
Wouldn't love it, but wouldn't hate it. A-Rod is a heck of a recruiter. This would leave me to believe that things are even worse than I could have imagined down in Provo. :lol:
Has he recruited well in his current role?



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Re: Roderick

Post by JFW_AGGIES » December 12th, 2018, 7:06 am

I'd say their QB Wilson is pretty good, him and fesi are why he's there.



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Re: Roderick

Post by FloridaAggie13 » December 12th, 2018, 7:11 am

JFW_AGGIES wrote:
December 12th, 2018, 7:06 am
I'd say their QB Wilson is pretty good, him and fesi are why he's there.
...okay, then can he implement a successful offense? It doesn't seem like he has much of a history in this area. Taking a coach from YBU might be something for us fans to enjoy while we shove it in YBU fans' face, but if he can't coach (see: Weber/Oline) then it's a detriment to us, even if he is a good recruiter.



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Post by tetonaggie » December 12th, 2018, 7:22 am

I would take Roderick on staff but would be really disappointed if he was our best OC candidate.


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Re: Roderick

Post by brownjeans » December 12th, 2018, 8:21 am

If true, I hate this hire.

Why should I "trust Gary" on this? Gary has a track record of making bad decisions when hiring his assistants (especially OCs). How many of his OC's have gone on to greater success? Mike Sanford? Probably the best Wells has had, but his son is better. Dave Baldwin? Sucks. Matt Wells? Not a great OC. Andy Ludwig? Nothing special. Kevin McGiven? Please. TJ Woods as "co-OC"? I love TJ as O-line coach, but OC? No. And co-OC? That's the same stupid decision Matt Wells made with Maile and Shaver... co-leadership is no leadership. Agian, why should I trust Gary on this?

Going from Yost to Roderick is like going from Picasso to a house painter. We need an OC with a track record of creative wizardry. We need WAY better than Roderick.

The only possibility that this works will be Love, Thompson, and all our boys on offense are so good they can make any garbage look good. But once they're gone, our offense will be truly offensive.



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Re: Roderick

Post by aggies22 » December 12th, 2018, 8:26 am

brownjeans wrote:
December 12th, 2018, 8:21 am
If true, I hate this hire.

Why should I "trust Gary" on this? Gary has a track record of making bad decisions when hiring his assistants (especially OCs). How many of his OC's have gone on to greater success? Mike Sanford? Probably the best Wells has had, but his son is better. Dave Baldwin? Sucks. Matt Wells? Not a great OC. Andy Ludwig? Nothing special. Kevin McGiven? Please. TJ Woods as "co-OC"? I love TJ as O-line coach, but OC? No. And co-OC? That's the same stupid decision Matt Wells made with Maile and Shaver... co-leadership is no leadership. Again, why should I trust Gary on this?

Going from Yost to Roderick is like going from Picasso to a house painter. We need an OC with a track record of creative wizardry. We need WAY better than Roderick.

The only possibility that this works will be Love, Thompson, and all our boys on offense are so good they can make any garbage look good. But once they're gone, our offense will be truly offensive.
USUBlue and I were talking about this EXACT issue yesterday afternoon.



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Re: Roderick

Post by UtahStizzle » December 12th, 2018, 8:44 am

Chatman wrote:Seems like a natural fit. He was Andersen’s offensive coordinator at southern Utah many years ago.
Why does that make it a natural fit? Gary's had like 4 FBS coaching jobs since then without him.


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Re: Roderick

Post by Roy McAvoy » December 12th, 2018, 8:46 am

I would absolutely hate it and would revolt. Every offense this guy has been a part of has been a dumpster fire. Why does he get such high recognition? I don't get it.



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Re: Roderick

Post by treesap32 » December 12th, 2018, 8:47 am

IIRC, we had one of the top offenses in the nation under Baldwin. People just hated him because of the bubble screens that often times got blown up.



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Re: Roderick

Post by AngusAg » December 12th, 2018, 8:48 am

What about Dave Schramm?



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Re: Roderick

Post by Empire of Dirt » December 12th, 2018, 8:50 am

aggies22 wrote:
brownjeans wrote:
December 12th, 2018, 8:21 am
If true, I hate this hire.

Why should I "trust Gary" on this? Gary has a track record of making bad decisions when hiring his assistants (especially OCs). How many of his OC's have gone on to greater success? Mike Sanford? Probably the best Wells has had, but his son is better. Dave Baldwin? Sucks. Matt Wells? Not a great OC. Andy Ludwig? Nothing special. Kevin McGiven? Please. TJ Woods as "co-OC"? I love TJ as O-line coach, but OC? No. And co-OC? That's the same stupid decision Matt Wells made with Maile and Shaver... co-leadership is no leadership. Again, why should I trust Gary on this?

Going from Yost to Roderick is like going from Picasso to a house painter. We need an OC with a track record of creative wizardry. We need WAY better than Roderick.

The only possibility that this works will be Love, Thompson, and all our boys on offense are so good they can make any garbage look good. But once they're gone, our offense will be truly offensive.
USUBlue and I were talking about this EXACT issue yesterday afternoon.
I was prepared to type damn near the exact thing.

I’m already sick of hearing “trust Gary.” Did Gary walk across first dam when he returned to campus?


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Re: Roderick

Post by brownjeans » December 12th, 2018, 8:51 am

treesap32 wrote:
December 12th, 2018, 8:47 am
IIRC, we had one of the top offenses in the nation under Baldwin. People just hated him because of the bubble screens that often times got blown up.
He's done nothing since then to support an argument that he's a good OC.



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Post by dirtnsnow » December 12th, 2018, 8:52 am

treesap32 wrote:
December 12th, 2018, 8:47 am
IIRC, we had one of the top offenses in the nation under Baldwin. People just hated him because of the bubble screens that often times got blown up.
Agreed. We set school records with him at the helm. He made some questionable situational decisions, but before this season, that was our best offense ever.


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Post by Roy McAvoy » December 12th, 2018, 8:57 am

treesap32 wrote:
December 12th, 2018, 8:47 am
IIRC, we had one of the top offenses in the nation under Baldwin. People just hated him because of the bubble screens that often times got blown up.
I argue that was because of our vastly superior at talent at RB & QB compared to the defenses we were playing. Baldwin's offense was so predictable all the way around.

I can also never forgive him for one play. It was a home game against CSU we needed to win. We lost 35-34 in 2 OT. The two point conversion was the worst play call.

He ran a handoff to Turbin into the teeth of CSU's defense to the short side of the field and Turbin gave it everything but just had no shot of scoring because CSU knew it was coming. That summarizes Baldwin's play calling to me. It was evident to me prior to the play call. All Baldwin had to was fake that handoff to Turbin and send Chuckie rolling out to the right side of the field and he could've walked into the end zone. I've always been upset about that game.

Here's the footage:
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Re: Roderick

Post by ajwildcat » December 12th, 2018, 8:57 am

AngusAg wrote:
December 12th, 2018, 8:48 am
What about Dave Schramm?
Please for the love of Jebus please take Schramm away from us here at WSU. Guy is an a** hat and can't call a game to save his damn life. Schramm is the single reason WSU lost last weekend and not playing in the FCS National championship.
PLEASE TAKE HIM!!! :thumbsup:



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Re: Roderick

Post by BustaMcNutt » December 12th, 2018, 9:01 am

Schramm also ran Fresno into the ground before Tedford resurrected them.



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