A look at the 2019 Depth Chart

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » December 18th, 2018, 9:57 am

A few disclaimers here:
- This is merely a projection from me based off what we saw this season. It will likely look very different by the time the season starts.
- I only did two deep. There are players in the three deep that I'm sure will have a big impact and may move up in the depth chart.
- The players' eligibility year is a little blurry to me given the new redshirt rules so a few may be off.
- This list is just including returning players. I don't have anyone new.
- I'm not sure if our defensive scheme will stay the same for next year, but I hope it does. It added more speed on the field.
- The OL is a rough projection. I'm not sure what spots they'll put the backups in or who will be the top backups.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » December 18th, 2018, 10:04 am

Nobody seems very concerned about this, but you can’t go 5’11, 5’8 and 5’8 for your starting receivers. That’s not gonna work.

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USUBlue · Post by **USUBlue** » December 18th, 2018, 10:10 am

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 10:04 am
Nobody seems very concerned about this, but you can’t go 5’11, 5’8 and 5’8 for your starting receivers. That’s not gonna work.

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I agree 2004. We need some height and some real speed on the outside.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » December 18th, 2018, 10:12 am

USUBlue wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 10:10 am

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 10:04 am
Nobody seems very concerned about this, but you can’t go 5’11, 5’8 and 5’8 for your starting receivers. That’s not gonna work.

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I agree 2004. We need some height and some real speed on the outside.

I think a lot of people are concerned. Hence why everyone is saying we need multiple jc/grad transfer guys.

ThunderAggie · Post by **ThunderAggie** » December 18th, 2018, 10:13 am

USUBlue wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 10:10 am

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 10:04 am
Nobody seems very concerned about this, but you can’t go 5’11, 5’8 and 5’8 for your starting receivers. That’s not gonna work.

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I agree 2004. We need some height and some real speed on the outside.

Akile Davis? He is 6 ft 2 and leaving the Y!

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slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » December 18th, 2018, 10:16 am

BYU has a few transfers that I’d be interested in. Davis, folau and then a big dline guy originally from Pocatello who originally enrolled at Oregon. Seems that we have taken BYU guys in the past who maybe didn’t develop wel there for whatever reason and then through our development program have turned into good players. Ficklin being the obvious one here.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » December 18th, 2018, 10:21 am

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 10:04 am
Nobody seems very concerned about this, but you can’t go 5’11, 5’8 and 5’8 for your starting receivers. That’s not gonna work.

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I'm absolutely terrified about our outside WR position. We HAVE to add a couple of experienced pieces there. We really need a solid grad transfer and 1-2 JC guys.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » December 18th, 2018, 10:24 am

If we add one really good WR who is 6'2 or taller and I'm good with our WRs (especially if Love improves his accuracy).

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » December 18th, 2018, 10:45 am

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 10:04 am
Nobody seems very concerned about this, but you can’t go 5’11, 5’8 and 5’8 for your starting receivers. That’s not gonna work.

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Everyone I have talked to is very concerned about this. We've got to have a few Jalen Green types added or we are screwed. We will really miss Vaughans as well. His lateral quickness and straight line speed were game changing.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » December 18th, 2018, 10:49 am

I stand corrected. Everyone is concerned.

My perception was o-line was getting all the attention but replacing Tarver and Green were much bigger problems.

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brian5562 · Post by **brian5562** » December 18th, 2018, 10:50 am

Scarver really needs to step up as a receiver. His speed can be a huge difference maker and can help open up things underneath.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » December 18th, 2018, 11:00 am

brian5562 wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 10:50 am
Scarver really needs to step up as a receiver. His speed can be a huge difference maker and can help open up things underneath.

I have the image burned into my mind of him being 10 yards ahead of every AFA defender and dropping a perfectly thrown pass that would've been for 6.

JDAggie · Post by **JDAggie** » December 18th, 2018, 11:01 am

Tim Patrick, Sam Lockett, Chad Artist, Jackson Prince, and Devin Heckstall are all on the roster, and all over 6'. Patrick, Lockett, and Prince are all freshman who redshirted this year any of those guys could step up to fill a role.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » December 18th, 2018, 11:02 am

JDAggie wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 11:01 am
Tim Patrick, Sam Lockett, Chad Artist, Jackson Prince, and Devin Heckstall are all on the roster, and all over 6'. Patrick, Lockett, and Prince are all freshman who redshirted this year any of those guys could step up to fill a role.

Welcome to the board, JD. They're 6' or over, but how good can they be?

AggieUprising50 · Post by **AggieUprising50** » December 18th, 2018, 11:05 am

The two guys that will need to step up this year at the WR spots are Scarver and Heckstall.

Heckstall needs to become the possession receiver that catches everything and always wins the jump ball. At 6-5, he has the potential.

Scarver needs to be the deep threat. He has the speed to become a Hunter Sharp type player for us. If he can fine tune his route running and master the deep ball, look out!

Jordan Nathan will do his thing. We all have faith in him.

JDAggie · Post by **JDAggie** » December 18th, 2018, 11:10 am

Only time will tell how good they are. It is no different than recruits though, you never know if their talents will translate to the D1 level. I truly believe that Heckstall can be really really good just needs to step up!

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » December 18th, 2018, 11:10 am

JDAggie wrote:Tim Patrick, Sam Lockett, Chad Artist, Jackson Prince, and Devin Heckstall are all on the roster, and all over 6'. Patrick, Lockett, and Prince are all freshman who redshirted this year any of those guys could step up to fill a role.

Didn’t Artist quit ?

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slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » December 18th, 2018, 11:14 am

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 11:10 am

JDAggie wrote:Tim Patrick, Sam Lockett, Chad Artist, Jackson Prince, and Devin Heckstall are all on the roster, and all over 6'. Patrick, Lockett, and Prince are all freshman who redshirted this year any of those guys could step up to fill a role.
Didn’t Artist quit ?

Yes Artist quit.

Out of the group listed I am hoping Patrick can take a step.

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Post by **Aglicious** » December 18th, 2018, 11:25 am

I think Scarver will step up and provide some of the speed we need. I also think Thompkins will be the perfect replacement for Vaughns. He is super quick and has excellent acceleration and speed.

It still doesn't take away from the fact that we still need 2 more taller WR's to add to the mix, preferably at least one that has decent speed to really make things go.

Post by **aggies22** » December 18th, 2018, 11:31 am

I wouldn't count on Heckstall. He only caught 14 passes in JC ball and couldn't crack the 2 deep in 2018. The old coaching staff seemed to think that WRs were a dime a dozen but sure did a horrible job of recruiting them. Jalen Greene's don't come along every year. If we are banking on walk-ons like Jackson Prince and Sam Lockett we will be wasting the talents of Jordan Love.

Elkaggie · Post by **Elkaggie** » December 18th, 2018, 11:49 am

Heck stall and Scarver seemed to have a lot of drops.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » December 18th, 2018, 11:51 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 11:49 am
Heck stall and Scarver seemed to have a lot of drops.

Is Heckstall Wheat 2.0?

USUBlue · Post by **USUBlue** » December 18th, 2018, 12:04 pm

JDAggie wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 11:01 am
Tim Patrick, Sam Lockett, Chad Artist, Jackson Prince, and Devin Heckstall are all on the roster, and all over 6'. Patrick, Lockett, and Prince are all freshman who redshirted this year any of those guys could step up to fill a role.

Artist is gone; Prince and Lockett are walkons for a reason; which leaves Patrick and Heckstall. Heckstall had a very uninspiring year and Patrick didn't play enough as a redshirt to even notice. We need much better.

BigBlueAggie · Post by **BigBlueAggie** » December 18th, 2018, 12:20 pm

Heckstall had a few targets in the bowl game but looked ummm...awkward trying to catch them. Body control and reaction time to the ball were not awesome.

Granted he is young and can work his butt off between now and then, but right now he isn't ready.

USUBlue · Post by **USUBlue** » December 18th, 2018, 12:28 pm

BigBlueAggie wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 12:20 pm
Heckstall had a few targets in the bowl game but looked ummm...awkward trying to catch them. Body control and reaction time to the ball were not awesome.

Granted he is young and can work his butt off between now and then, but right now he isn't ready.

Heckstall isn't young; he's going to be a junior or senior next year depending on redshirt availability

AGGIEinIOWA · Post by **AGGIEinIOWA** » December 18th, 2018, 12:31 pm

As much as Tarver and Greene’s pass catching ability will be hard to replace, I think their blocking and physicality will be missed. I just don’t see many of our remaining receivers possessing the combination of size, physicality, and blocking. A significant number of our explosive plays happened because of their edge and down field blocking.

AggieUprising50 · Post by **AggieUprising50** » December 18th, 2018, 12:39 pm

USUBlue wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 12:28 pm

BigBlueAggie wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 12:20 pm
Heckstall had a few targets in the bowl game but looked ummm...awkward trying to catch them. Body control and reaction time to the ball were not awesome.

Granted he is young and can work his butt off between now and then, but right now he isn't ready.
Heckstall isn't young; he's going to be a junior or senior last year depending on redshirt availability

Its obvious that Heckstall was a project when we got him last year. Seeing that Kedric Wheatfall just committed to Fresno State, we need Heckstall to grow up quickly.

Or we're going to have to use someone like Bryce Mortensen as a WR instead of a 4th string TE.

Post by **aggies22** » December 18th, 2018, 12:46 pm

USUBlue wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 12:28 pm

BigBlueAggie wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 12:20 pm
Heckstall had a few targets in the bowl game but looked ummm...awkward trying to catch them. Body control and reaction time to the ball were not awesome.

Granted he is young and can work his butt off between now and then, but right now he isn't ready.
Heckstall isn't young; he's going to be a junior or senior next year depending on redshirt availability

Heckstall is not young. He will be a senior in 2019.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » December 18th, 2018, 12:54 pm

-Scarver has all the tools to be successful. If he can run good routes and catch the ball he has the one thing that you cannot teach and that is elite speed. Hopefully he works a lot in the off season to improve.

-How did Curtis and Patrick Jr. look in fall camp? They are both really young, but I think they can be good. Heckstall has the physical attributes to a great possession receiver and end zone fade route, but just seems to be struggling.

-Thomkins and Nathan could have really big years.

-Terrell will be good for us. He is an excellent run blocker as well. His ball catching was much improved from his freshman year.

-I have to imagine with who we have leaving and the opportunities to play right now as well as a great QB throwing you the ball that we cannot get a decent grad transfer in this spring or summer.

Post by **Aglicious** » December 18th, 2018, 1:04 pm

AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 12:31 pm
As much as Tarver and Greene’s pass catching ability will be hard to replace, I think their blocking and physicality will be missed. I just don’t see many of our remaining receivers possessing the combination of size, physicality, and blocking. A significant number of our explosive plays happened because of their edge and down field blocking.

This is a great point. What they meant to the run game and screen game was equal to their importance in the pass game. Greene especially was a talented blocker.

As for drops by Heckstall and Scarver, I'm not sure Heckstall really even had a chance to do much dropping. As was mentioned above, he probably had more reps in the bowl game than he's seen all season and it did not look like he and Love were on the same page at all. He seemed almost surprised and caught off-guard that the ball was even coming his way. In Scarver's case, the one wide open drop for a sure TD earlier in the season has sort of fueled the thought that he isn't sure handed. He certainly has shown he has chemistry with Love on the deep ball and also has been effective on out routes to the sidelines. Where I think he struggles is being used as a possession receiver on slants and other short routes. He isn't big enough to shield a defender or tall enough to post someone up. The other few drops he has had this season were when he was being used this way. Perhaps he can work on it an become better but I think his skill set is stretching the defense on the outside and over the top.

AggieUprising50 · Post by **AggieUprising50** » December 18th, 2018, 1:34 pm

We should go after RaJae Johnson

https://247sports.com/Player/RaJae-Johnson-46053312/

He's exactly what we're looking for. We'd have a decent shot at landing him too.

Post by **aggies22** » December 18th, 2018, 1:48 pm

AggieUprising50 wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 1:34 pm
We should go after RaJae Johnson

https://247sports.com/Player/RaJae-Johnson-46053312/

He's exactly what we're looking for. We'd have a decent shot at landing him too.

He played in three games this year and caught 12 passes.

AggieUprising50 · Post by **AggieUprising50** » December 18th, 2018, 1:54 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 1:48 pm

AggieUprising50 wrote: ↑
December 18th, 2018, 1:34 pm
We should go after RaJae Johnson

https://247sports.com/Player/RaJae-Johnson-46053312/

He's exactly what we're looking for. We'd have a decent shot at landing him too.
He played in three games this year and caught 12 passes.

Was that due to Injury?

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » December 18th, 2018, 1:54 pm

I have full confidence in Scarver and Nathan. We do need some younger guys to step up, just like Jordan and Savon have stepped up this year. The thing about a good QB is he makes decent WRs look great. I am very worried about the blocking out of our WRs next year. Tarver and Greene were great in that regard.

The offensive line is not as big of a question mark as some make it out to be. The left side actually looks pretty dang good, and I think we've been able to get a lot of guys some good exposure this year with the blowouts. We've got a lot of potential there, and I feel good about finding 2 starters and a couple of utility backups to help get us where we need to be with Woods in the fold.

Looking at the starters on the defense...my goodness. Gary is going to be happy with that group. Hopefully he is able to develop guys as well for depth in some positions, but my goodness. The front seven is going to be even better next year, and I think the secondary can be just as good (although 22 interceptions will be hard to replicate).

MetsJetsAggies · Post by **MetsJetsAggies** » December 18th, 2018, 2:14 pm

Yeah if all the guys coming back from injury are back to normal, that has the makings of one of our best defenses ever. That LB corps will rival the Fackrell/Vigil(s) years

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