Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

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Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by Sl7vk » January 1st, 2019, 9:38 am

Seems such a strange move on he surface.
Deep pocketed petrochemical boosters at Houston I guess.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by JFW_AGGIES » January 1st, 2019, 10:08 am

Holgerson has wanted out of WV for a while now, he wanted the TT job but they had already decided on Wells. Tillman Ferttatia sp wanted him, billionaire owner if the Rockets and head of Houston's BOR. he'll be able to recruit top level talent to Houston and is from TX. MW's job just got a lot tougher.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by flying_scotsman2.0 » January 1st, 2019, 10:37 am

JFW_AGGIES wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 10:08 am
Holgerson has wanted out of WV for a while now, he wanted the TT job but they had already decided on Wells. Tillman Ferttatia sp wanted him, billionaire owner if the Rockets and head of Houston's BOR. he'll be able to recruit top level talent to Houston and is from TX. MW's job just got a lot tougher.
I don't think this really affects MW. They aren't is the same conference and Texas has enough recruits for all the schools in Texas.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by YoungBloodAggie » January 1st, 2019, 10:38 am

Sl7vk wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 9:38 am
Seems such a strange move on he surface.
Deep pocketed petrochemical boosters at Houston I guess.
First of all, we prefer the term "Hydrocarbon Hustlers" if you don't mind.

Second, Tilman Fertitta is a restaurateur and casino magnate. His only connection to oil and gas is that O&G employees eat in his restaurants a lot.


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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by aggies22 » January 1st, 2019, 10:41 am

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 10:37 am
JFW_AGGIES wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 10:08 am
Holgerson has wanted out of WV for a while now, he wanted the TT job but they had already decided on Wells. Tillman Ferttatia sp wanted him, billionaire owner if the Rockets and head of Houston's BOR. he'll be able to recruit top level talent to Houston and is from TX. MW's job just got a lot tougher.
I don't think this really affects MW. They aren't is the same conference and Texas has enough recruits for all the schools in Texas.
It does affect Texas Tech. The Texas schools aren't the only ones recruiting the state and Matt Wells and the boys can't afford to be pushed further down the recruiting totem pole than they already are.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by Jjoey53 » January 1st, 2019, 10:54 am

YoungBloodAggie wrote:
Sl7vk wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 9:38 am
Seems such a strange move on he surface.
Deep pocketed petrochemical boosters at Houston I guess.
First of all, we prefer the term "Hydrocarbon Hustlers" if you don't mind.

Second, Tilman Fertitta is a restaurateur and casino magnate. His only connection to oil and gas is that O&G employees eat in his restaurants a lot.
Is that how they produce the gas?


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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by YoungBloodAggie » January 1st, 2019, 11:28 am

Jjoey53 wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 10:54 am
YoungBloodAggie wrote:
Sl7vk wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 9:38 am
Seems such a strange move on he surface.
Deep pocketed petrochemical boosters at Houston I guess.
First of all, we prefer the term "Hydrocarbon Hustlers" if you don't mind.

Second, Tilman Fertitta is a restaurateur and casino magnate. His only connection to oil and gas is that O&G employees eat in his restaurants a lot.
Is that how they produce the gas?


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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by flying_scotsman2.0 » January 1st, 2019, 12:30 pm

aggies22 wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 10:41 am
flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 10:37 am
JFW_AGGIES wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 10:08 am
Holgerson has wanted out of WV for a while now, he wanted the TT job but they had already decided on Wells. Tillman Ferttatia sp wanted him, billionaire owner if the Rockets and head of Houston's BOR. he'll be able to recruit top level talent to Houston and is from TX. MW's job just got a lot tougher.
I don't think this really affects MW. They aren't is the same conference and Texas has enough recruits for all the schools in Texas.
It does affect Texas Tech. The Texas schools aren't the only ones recruiting the state and Matt Wells and the boys can't afford to be pushed further down the recruiting totem pole than they already are.
Maybe they'll keep recruiting Utah, like GA :noidea: . That Houston job sure does seem intense. They can their coach after an 8 win season... But I guess if you got the cash...



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by JFW_AGGIES » January 1st, 2019, 12:54 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 12:30 pm
aggies22 wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 10:41 am
flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 10:37 am
JFW_AGGIES wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 10:08 am
Holgerson has wanted out of WV for a while now, he wanted the TT job but they had already decided on Wells. Tillman Ferttatia sp wanted him, billionaire owner if the Rockets and head of Houston's BOR. he'll be able to recruit top level talent to Houston and is from TX. MW's job just got a lot tougher.
I don't think this really affects MW. They aren't is the same conference and Texas has enough recruits for all the schools in Texas.
It does affect Texas Tech. The Texas schools aren't the only ones recruiting the state and Matt Wells and the boys can't afford to be pushed further down the recruiting totem pole than they already are.
Maybe they'll keep recruiting Utah, like GA :noidea: . That Houston job sure does seem intense. They can their coach after an 8 win season... But I guess if you got the cash...
Who's going to keep recruiting UT? MW and Co😂. they never really recruited UT! Just look at all the kids we've offered in the ST. Of UT since GA took over.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by oleblu111 » January 1st, 2019, 1:02 pm

Did not Wells have like 37-38 kids from Utah ?



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by JFW_AGGIES » January 1st, 2019, 1:19 pm

35 on current roster with missons some are GA's past recruits. 1/2 are also most likely walkons or have in the last yr earned a schollie. So no MW didnt do a good job recruiting UT.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by aggies22 » January 1st, 2019, 1:20 pm

oleblu111 wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 1:02 pm
Did not Wells have like 37-38 kids from Utah ?
Matt did not really take recruiting the state of Utah seriously. JFW Aggie is correct.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by FloridaAggie13 » January 1st, 2019, 3:19 pm

Maybe Wells' recruitment strategy was based on overall return on investment and talent available. Yes, it is important to successfully recruit the home state but there is more talent available elsewhere. Makes sense to stay balanced.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by dyedblue » January 1st, 2019, 4:45 pm

Utah is great for certain positions. We aren't going to find many (Covey) great receivers, running backs, or corners. We can find great linemen on both sides, safeties, and linebackers.


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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by USUBlue » January 1st, 2019, 5:40 pm

My question is how does Houston pay 4 million per year. They not are not in a P5 conference and don’t have that kind of TV money



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by NVAggie » January 1st, 2019, 6:12 pm

That is a crazy amount of money for a G5.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by Aggiefan160 » January 1st, 2019, 7:29 pm

USUBlue wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 5:40 pm
My question is how does Houston pay 4 million per year. They not are not in a P5 conference and don’t have that kind of TV money
I found this article pretty interesting. Said 8-4 gets you fired and their model is to have successful coaches and then make money when they are hired away...looks like their model didn’t work this time.

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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by garyismyhomeboy » January 1st, 2019, 7:46 pm

In essence that is what every mid-major school hopes for, that they at least get something in return for their coach leaving. The reality is that high buyouts, clauses and stricter contracts aren't feasible to mid-major schools anymore. It puts leverage in the institution when coaches, agents want it in their hands.

I've said it before and hate to admit it. The AAC has more $$$ in their upper echelon of schools than MWC. UH has a big wig donor that owns the Rockets. Memphis has FedEX. UCF has a broad range of donors and their alumni are growing rapidly because it has the highest enrollment in the nation.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by bazinga22 » January 2nd, 2019, 12:03 am

Houston is in a fertile recruiting ground easier to win than WVU.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by aggies22 » January 2nd, 2019, 7:17 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
January 1st, 2019, 3:19 pm
Maybe Wells' recruitment strategy was based on overall return on investment and talent available. Yes, it is important to successfully recruit the home state but there is more talent available elsewhere. Makes sense to stay balanced.
Utah has plenty of talent but Wells token recruiting attempts only drove recruits to Utah, byu and out of state schools. Offers should be made early to at least the top 10, MAYBE even 15 kids (depending on the year) in the state in each class and Wells rarely did that.



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Re: Holgerson to Houston for 4 million per year

Post by aggies22 » January 2nd, 2019, 7:29 am

bazinga22 wrote:
January 2nd, 2019, 12:03 am
Houston is in a fertile recruiting ground easier to win than WVU.
And if that's the case, it only moves Holgorsen closer to Lubbock so he can take over when it doesn't work out for Wells and the boys.



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