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Jared Reed

Post by slcagg » June 1st, 2019, 12:35 pm

Anyone know if this is a walk-on guy? Can’t find much about him.




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Re: Jared Reed

Post by aggies22 » June 1st, 2019, 2:25 pm

He was a 2* dude out of high school. It looks like he made 4 tackles last year. I'll try and find out more?



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Re: Jared Reed

Post by Smokin Joe » June 1st, 2019, 3:16 pm

He has length (6'0"). That's good for a CB. We always seem to have difficulty getting anyone over 5'9" at that position. Remind me again how many stars did Kyler Fackrell and Zach Vigil had? ;)



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Re: Jared Reed

Post by Madmartigan » June 1st, 2019, 3:31 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 3:16 pm
He has length (6'0"). That's good for a CB. We always seem to have difficulty getting anyone over 5'9" at that position. Remind me again how many stars did Kyler Fackrell and Zach Vigil had? ;)
This is an overly simplified argument that gets brought up here a lot. Of course we’ve gotten unrated or 2 star guys that went on to become great players. Thats the exception and not the rule. A three star guy is much more likely to be good than an unranked or two star guy. Reed could turn out to be good, I do like his size.

I haven’t seen this guys film so I can’t comment, but from first glance, not overly excited about the signing.



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Re: Jared Reed

Post by Smokin Joe » June 1st, 2019, 6:06 pm

It is far from the exception. Did Turbin or Wagner have any stars? Wagner had one D1 offer (us) and I think Turbin may have had two. How about Kerwynn Williams? IIRC, the offensive line that dominated Auburn's "blue chippers" in 2012 (or whenever it was) was comprised almost entirely of guys with zero to 2 stars. I could go on and on and on. We've had literally dozens upon dozens of really good players who've had two stars and even less. I don't think BJ Larsen or Jordan Nielsen had any D-1 offers other than us and each probably had 2 stars or less.



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Post by 2004AG » June 1st, 2019, 6:42 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:It is far from the exception. Did Turbin or Wagner have any stars? Wagner had one D1 offer (us) and I think Turbin may have had two. How about Kerwynn Williams? IIRC, the offensive line that dominated Auburn's "blue chippers" in 2012 (or whenever it was) was comprised almost entirely of guys with zero to 2 stars. I could go on and on and on. We've had literally dozens upon dozens of really good players who've had two stars and even less. I don't think BJ Larsen or Jordan Nielsen had any D-1 offers other than us and each probably had 2 stars or less.
And how many 0 or 2 stars never panned out in the last 10 years ?

It’s definitely the exception.


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Re: Jared Reed

Post by aggies22 » June 1st, 2019, 7:27 pm

I didn't bring up the 2* thing so that this could turn into a pissing match about if star rating means a kid is going to pan out or not. The comment was made that there wasn't much info on him. I shared what I could find. As for having football talent, he can prove it on the field. Welcome to Utah State Jared!
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Re: Jared Reed

Post by ususports » June 1st, 2019, 7:31 pm

aggies22 wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 7:27 pm
I didn't bring up the 2* thing so that this could turn into a pissing match about if star rating means a kid is going to pan out or not. The comment was made that there wasn't much info on him. I shared what I could find. As for having football talent, he can prove it on the field. Welcome to Utah State Jared!
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Re: Jared Reed

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » June 1st, 2019, 8:06 pm

I seem to remember Portland State being known for their defense the past few years. Or do I remember wrong?
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Re: Jared Reed

Post by Madmartigan » June 1st, 2019, 8:25 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 6:06 pm
It is far from the exception. Did Turbin or Wagner have any stars? Wagner had one D1 offer (us) and I think Turbin may have had two. How about Kerwynn Williams? IIRC, the offensive line that dominated Auburn's "blue chippers" in 2012 (or whenever it was) was comprised almost entirely of guys with zero to 2 stars. I could go on and on and on. We've had literally dozens upon dozens of really good players who've had two stars and even less. I don't think BJ Larsen or Jordan Nielsen had any D-1 offers other than us and each probably had 2 stars or less.
For every Turbin or Williams you hear about (because they see the field) there are 2-3 guys similarly ranked you don’t remember because they never saw the field because they weren’t good enough. USU has done really well developing unknown guys, but you can’t count on that with regularity. The more physically developed/gifted a kid is coming out of high school, the more likely they are to be good players.



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Re: Jared Reed

Post by GameFAQSAggie » June 1st, 2019, 8:57 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 3:16 pm
He has length (6'0"). That's good for a CB. We always seem to have difficulty getting anyone over 5'9" at that position. Remind me again how many stars did Kyler Fackrell and Zach Vigil had? ;)



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Re: Jared Reed

Post by GameFAQSAggie » June 1st, 2019, 9:01 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 6:06 pm
I think Turbin may have had two.





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Re: Jared Reed

Post by GameFAQSAggie » June 1st, 2019, 9:03 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 6:06 pm
How about Kerwynn Williams? IIRC, the offensive line that dominated Auburn's "blue chippers" in 2012 (or whenever it was) was comprised almost entirely of guys with zero to 2 stars.






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Re: Jared Reed

Post by GameFAQSAggie » June 1st, 2019, 9:05 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 6:06 pm
I don't think BJ Larsen or Jordan Nielsen had any D-1 offers other than us and each probably had 2 stars or less.



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Re: Jared Reed

Post by GameFAQSAggie » June 1st, 2019, 9:10 pm

Madmartigan wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 8:25 pm
For every Turbin or Williams you hear about (because they see the field) there are 2-3 guys similarly ranked you don’t remember because they never saw the field because they weren’t good enough.
Or they DID see the field, but only cause someone has to start on any given team, but weren't able to win many games for us. Example is our linebackers from 2016, all of which were eventually recruited over.
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Re: Jared Reed

Post by ChicagoAggie » June 1st, 2019, 9:23 pm

2004AG wrote:
June 1st, 2019, 6:42 pm
Smokin Joe wrote:It is far from the exception. Did Turbin or Wagner have any stars? Wagner had one D1 offer (us) and I think Turbin may have had two. How about Kerwynn Williams? IIRC, the offensive line that dominated Auburn's "blue chippers" in 2012 (or whenever it was) was comprised almost entirely of guys with zero to 2 stars. I could go on and on and on. We've had literally dozens upon dozens of really good players who've had two stars and even less. I don't think BJ Larsen or Jordan Nielsen had any D-1 offers other than us and each probably had 2 stars or less.
And how many 0 or 2 stars never panned out in the last 10 years ?

It’s definitely the exception.


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Re: Jared Reed

Post by TheAKAggie » June 2nd, 2019, 1:13 am

Smokin Joe wrote:It is far from the exception. Did Turbin or Wagner have any stars? Wagner had one D1 offer (us) and I think Turbin may have had two. How about Kerwynn Williams? IIRC, the offensive line that dominated Auburn's "blue chippers" in 2012 (or whenever it was) was comprised almost entirely of guys with zero to 2 stars. I could go on and on and on. We've had literally dozens upon dozens of really good players who've had two stars and even less. I don't think BJ Larsen or Jordan Nielsen had any D-1 offers other than us and each probably had 2 stars or less.
You’re proving their point.


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Re: Jared Reed

Post by GameFAQSAggie » June 2nd, 2019, 8:11 am

At the opposite end of the spectrum, guys will sometimes be overrated at 3 or 4 stars. Like one kid was a 3 star who signed with Oregon, and then transferred here and wasn't even good enough to start for us when we were 1-11. On that same team, our fourth string quarterback was once a 4 star and originally signed with Arizona State who beat out USC for him. There also once was a quarterback who transferred from Alabama to Weber State and didn't even start there.



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Re: Jared Reed

Post by aggies22 » June 2nd, 2019, 11:21 am

My colleague has learned that Jared is a preferred walk on.
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Re: Jared Reed

Post by MWCFAN12 » June 4th, 2019, 9:24 am

Taking a 2 * out of high school ( Turbo, Bobby, Fack , Vig , ect ect ) with 5 years to work with, is very different than taking a 2* out of a FCS school with 6 tackles. It is very easy to be over looked in high school. It is hard to be over looked in JC & D3 and even harder to be over looked in FCS... If we are go to compare let's at least compare apples and apples ... 2 Star Fack and 2 Star Reed are very different.



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Re: Jared Reed

Post by Imakeitrain » June 4th, 2019, 12:51 pm

For the past 20 years would you have preferred to get a bunch of 2* guys or 5* guys?

That being said. At this point it doesn't matter. Once someone signs on the dotted line- all that matters from a football perspective is how they eat, lift, practice, study film, and ultimately play the game.

Hypothetically, let's say we land the #1 recruit in the nation. He would still need to do all the above to get on to and remain on the field. He needs to earn his spot. It's not like when players come in for fall camp or off-season lifting they are split up into how many stars Rivals put on their bio.

The fact that a bunch of 5* guys play for Alabama isn't why they go to the playoffs seemingly every year. It's because those that stay are eating, lifting, practicing and studying film that they play better than most of the other teams they play. (Also...HGH ;) ....)

Not many 2* player is going to be Bobby Wagner.. if that were true we'd send several future pro-bowlers to the draft every year. However, we can get plenty of people at the 2* level that can contribute.

TL;DR Once the season starts, bragging about stars is like bragging about being on the HS Honor Roll when you are 40. But every college administrator would like more than less honor roll students enrolling in their school.



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Re: Jared Reed

Post by NVAggie » June 4th, 2019, 3:05 pm

I tell my kids that I was on the honor roll in High School.



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Re: Jared Reed

Post by TheAKAggie » June 4th, 2019, 5:38 pm

You shouldn’t lie to your children.


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