BigBlueDart wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 10:36 am

With the talk about the media deal I'm getting curious about what all of our athletic department's revenue sources are and how much each of them is. I may not be Googling this very well as I haven't found anything on my own, yet. Can anyone point me to a break down of where the department's money comes from? How much from media rights, other conference revenues, ticket sales, donations, etc.?

oleblu111 wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 10:52 am

USA Today has numbers for 2017 go to their site and check on NCAA revenue.

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 11:34 am

oleblu111 wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 10:52 am

USA Today has numbers for 2017 go to their site and check on NCAA revenue.

Thanks! From that I was able to get the breakdown in millions for each MWC school for 2017:

Air Force: Tickets - $3.5; Contributions - $8.7; Rights - $11.0; Students - $0.4; School - $33.0; Other - $3.0; Total - $60.0
Boise St: Tickets - $7.4; Contributions - $10.3; Rights - $12.1; Students - $3.2; School - $9.4; Other - $3.0; Total - $45.5
Colorado St: Tickets - $4.2; Contributions - $3.7; Rights - $11.5; Students - $5.8; School - $17.4; Other - $2.0; Total - $44.7
Fresno St: Tickets - $5.1; Contributions - $9.6; Rights - $9.2; Students - $4.4; School - $16.3; Other - $1.6; Total - $46.2
Hawai'i: Tickets - $5.8; Contributions - $4.2; Rights - $12.4; Students - $1.5; School - $19.0; Other - $4.9; Total - $47.8
Nevada: Tickets - $3.8; Contributions - $9.4; Rights - $6.9; Students - $2.8; School - $9.7; Other - $4.4; Total - $37.0
New Mexico: Tickets - $5.8; Contributions - $9.9; Rights - $12.2; Students - $4.0; School - $7.7; Other - $4.8; Total - $44.4
UNLV: Tickets - $4.9; Contributions - $7.7; Rights - $11.1; Students - $3.0; School - $18.6; Other - $2.1; Total - $47.3
SDSU: Tickets - $5.8; Contributions - $8.8; Rights - $11.7; Students - $11.1; School - $13.2; Other - $1.8; Total - $52.5
SJSU: Tickets - $0.8; Contributions - $2.4; Rights - $4.9; Students - $8.4; School - $12.9; Other - $1.9; Total - $31.3
Utah St: Tickets - $2.0; Contributions - $4.7; Rights - $6.4; Students - $5.1; School - $13.8; Other - $2.4; Total - $34.4
Wyoming: Tickets - $4.4; Contributions - $7.6; Rights - $8.1; Students - $2.1; School - $18.8; Other - -$0.5; Total - $40.4

I'm assuming that $1.1 million from tv goes in the "Rights" bucket. We are second-to-last in that category, as well as in ticket sales and overall budget. Our "contributions" category is on the low end, but we are beating out SJSU, Hawai'i, and Colorado St in that department, at least. Our student fees and school contributions aren't too high or too low relative to the rest of the group. I think it comes down to branding and program excitement. The "Cheap Valley" stigma is also a likely factor. Probably why the AD is hesitant about raising ticket prices too quickly.

Madmartigan wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 12:00 pm

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 11:34 am

oleblu111 wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 10:52 am

USA Today has numbers for 2017 go to their site and check on NCAA revenue.

Thanks! From that I was able to get the breakdown in millions for each MWC school for 2017:

Air Force: Tickets - $3.5; Contributions - $8.7; Rights - $11.0; Students - $0.4; School - $33.0; Other - $3.0; Total - $60.0
Boise St: Tickets - $7.4; Contributions - $10.3; Rights - $12.1; Students - $3.2; School - $9.4; Other - $3.0; Total - $45.5
Colorado St: Tickets - $4.2; Contributions - $3.7; Rights - $11.5; Students - $5.8; School - $17.4; Other - $2.0; Total - $44.7
Fresno St: Tickets - $5.1; Contributions - $9.6; Rights - $9.2; Students - $4.4; School - $16.3; Other - $1.6; Total - $46.2
Hawai'i: Tickets - $5.8; Contributions - $4.2; Rights - $12.4; Students - $1.5; School - $19.0; Other - $4.9; Total - $47.8
Nevada: Tickets - $3.8; Contributions - $9.4; Rights - $6.9; Students - $2.8; School - $9.7; Other - $4.4; Total - $37.0
New Mexico: Tickets - $5.8; Contributions - $9.9; Rights - $12.2; Students - $4.0; School - $7.7; Other - $4.8; Total - $44.4
UNLV: Tickets - $4.9; Contributions - $7.7; Rights - $11.1; Students - $3.0; School - $18.6; Other - $2.1; Total - $47.3
SDSU: Tickets - $5.8; Contributions - $8.8; Rights - $11.7; Students - $11.1; School - $13.2; Other - $1.8; Total - $52.5
SJSU: Tickets - $0.8; Contributions - $2.4; Rights - $4.9; Students - $8.4; School - $12.9; Other - $1.9; Total - $31.3
Utah St: Tickets - $2.0; Contributions - $4.7; Rights - $6.4; Students - $5.1; School - $13.8; Other - $2.4; Total - $34.4
Wyoming: Tickets - $4.4; Contributions - $7.6; Rights - $8.1; Students - $2.1; School - $18.8; Other - -$0.5; Total - $40.4

I'm assuming that $1.1 million from tv goes in the "Rights" bucket. We are second-to-last in that category, as well as in ticket sales and overall budget. Our "contributions" category is on the low end, but we are beating out SJSU, Hawai'i, and Colorado St in that department, at least. Our student fees and school contributions aren't too high or too low relative to the rest of the group. I think it comes down to branding and program excitement. The "Cheap Valley" stigma is also a likely factor. Probably why the AD is hesitant about raising ticket prices too quickly.

I’ve heard (I can't express myself without swearing) on here about how high our ticket prices are already. I can’t imagine raising them. They’re a bargain for the value you get, IMO. Both schools down south charge significantly more for their season tix and with Utah there is a waiting list.

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:08 pm

We likely won't ever be on the same level as Utah, but it doesn't seem unrealistic to get close to something like Boise State, who I'm sure is crushing us in ticket sales as well. It all starts with winning.

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:17 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:08 pm

We likely won't ever be on the same level as Utah, but it doesn't seem unrealistic to get close to something like Boise State, who I'm sure is crushing us in ticket sales as well. It all starts with winning.

Boise St led the conference in ticket revenue in 2017 with $7.4 million. We were second-to-last with our $2.0 million. SJSU was worst with $0.8 million.

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:38 pm

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:17 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:08 pm

We likely won't ever be on the same level as Utah, but it doesn't seem unrealistic to get close to something like Boise State, who I'm sure is crushing us in ticket sales as well. It all starts with winning.

Boise St led the conference in ticket revenue in 2017 with $7.4 million. We were second-to-last with our $2.0 million. SJSU was worst with $0.8 million.

Will be interesting to see the 2018 numbers.

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 2:06 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:38 pm

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:17 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:08 pm

We likely won't ever be on the same level as Utah, but it doesn't seem unrealistic to get close to something like Boise State, who I'm sure is crushing us in ticket sales as well. It all starts with winning.

Boise St led the conference in ticket revenue in 2017 with $7.4 million. We were second-to-last with our $2.0 million. SJSU was worst with $0.8 million.

Will be interesting to see the 2018 numbers.

I think 2018 probably weren't better than 2017. Maybe similar. But 2019 should see a big increase based on the schedule + hype from last season.

oleblu111 wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:53 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:38 pm

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:17 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑

July 24th, 2019, 1:08 pm

We likely won't ever be on the same level as Utah, but it doesn't seem unrealistic to get close to something like Boise State, who I'm sure is crushing us in ticket sales as well. It all starts with winning.

Boise St led the conference in ticket revenue in 2017 with $7.4 million. We were second-to-last with our $2.0 million. SJSU was worst with $0.8 million.

Will be interesting to see the 2018 numbers.

I would be thrilled to get what Wyoming gets from ticket sales. I do not think the ewe fans are bandwagon fans when you consider they have sold out since 2008.

oleblu111 wrote:I hope you are right with both football and basketball finishing in the top 25 in the final A.P. poll. I think they have earned a better showing from locals and Alums.

I went on the site and picked up 2 season tickets for friends, and was surprised that I could get east side reserves between the 40's for $115 each. I looks to me like there are a awful lot of tickets left for sale, maybe folks wait until later to buy tickets, but with what the team did on the field, and the home schedule I thought we would do better.

My hope is to get as much ticket revenue as Wyoming does couple that with a $1-2 million dollar increase in T.V. revenue in the near future, that would bring USU close to a $40 million overall budget which is small but decent.

Full wrote: ↑

July 25th, 2019, 9:11 am

oleblu111 wrote:I hope you are right with both football and basketball finishing in the top 25 in the final A.P. poll. I think they have earned a better showing from locals and Alums.

I went on the site and picked up 2 season tickets for friends, and was surprised that I could get east side reserves between the 40's for $115 each. I looks to me like there are a awful lot of tickets left for sale, maybe folks wait until later to buy tickets, but with what the team did on the field, and the home schedule I thought we would do better.

My hope is to get as much ticket revenue as Wyoming does couple that with a $1-2 million dollar increase in T.V. revenue in the near future, that would bring USU close to a $40 million overall budget which is small but decent.

I agree it’s disappointing to see 600+ $115 season tickets between the 40’s available. However, it’s much better than last year, and similar to other Mountain West teams (Boise State is an outlier with much higher prices).

Full wrote: ↑

July 25th, 2019, 9:11 am

oleblu111 wrote:I hope you are right with both football and basketball finishing in the top 25 in the final A.P. poll. I think they have earned a better showing from locals and Alums.

I went on the site and picked up 2 season tickets for friends, and was surprised that I could get east side reserves between the 40's for $115 each. I looks to me like there are a awful lot of tickets left for sale, maybe folks wait until later to buy tickets, but with what the team did on the field, and the home schedule I thought we would do better.

My hope is to get as much ticket revenue as Wyoming does couple that with a $1-2 million dollar increase in T.V. revenue in the near future, that would bring USU close to a $40 million overall budget which is small but decent.

I agree it’s disappointing to see 600+ $115 season tickets between the 40’s available. However, it’s much better than last year, and similar to other Mountain West teams (Boise State is an outlier with much higher prices).