RB situation

sambonethegreat · Post by **sambonethegreat** » September 29th, 2019, 1:01 pm

If Warren is out for a bit, which seems could be a week or two, how does the RB situation shake out?

Bright is solid, but Burt leaves a lot to be desired. Is there a chance we take the redshirt off Nawahine? Who else can reasonably step up and help our runners out?

I doubt we struggle to put CSU away if Warren were 100% yesterday. Gotta have him back for Nevada and Air Force!

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AgMac · Post by **AgMac** » September 29th, 2019, 1:23 pm

sambonethegreat wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 1:01 pm
If Warren is out for a bit, which seems could be a week or two, how does the RB situation shake out?

Bright is solid, but Burt leaves a lot to be desired. Is there a chance we take the redshirt off Nawahine? Who else can reasonably step up and help our runners out?

I doubt we struggle to put CSU away if Warren were 100% yesterday. Gotta have him back for Nevada and Air Force!

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Remember a player can now play in 4 games without losing the redshirt.

dyedblue · Post by **dyedblue** » September 29th, 2019, 2:06 pm

I’d sit both Bright and Warren this week and let them get healthy

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Intermeddler · Post by **Intermeddler** » September 29th, 2019, 2:40 pm

Burt was really bad last night. If we have to rely on him we’re in trouble.

If one of bright or warren can’t go for awhile I’m playing Nawahine even if he loses his redshirt

Post by **aggies22** » September 29th, 2019, 3:20 pm

Nawahine is the next man up.

NavyBlueAggie · Post by **NavyBlueAggie** » September 29th, 2019, 3:41 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 3:20 pm
Nawahine is the next man up.

Seems that Burt runs much like a man tilting and walking into a strong head wind. If he hasn't learned his trade in 4 years prior then we have squandered a scholarship. Unless we have a sleeper currently on the team who could be a running back, I would expect to see Nawahine starting next week.

sdiggety · Post by **sdiggety** » September 29th, 2019, 9:27 pm

What happened to Burt? dude should be playing like his hair is on fire. Instead, he runs like he is about to belly flop into a swimming pool after getting to the line of scrimmage. Did he put on a bunch of spongebob muscles that slowed him down but didn't make him any stronger? I don't get it. I love Nawahine is a total beast but I worry about injury without a year of the weight room first.

MaverickAggie · Post by **MaverickAggie** » September 29th, 2019, 9:32 pm

Time for Nawahine to join Bright in the backfield. I worry a bit about pass protection for no other reason than he is true frosh. Reports from camp were all positive and now it's time to see what he can do.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » September 29th, 2019, 9:36 pm

Burt ran poorly and missed his blocks.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » September 29th, 2019, 9:37 pm

NavyBlueAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 3:41 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 3:20 pm
Nawahine is the next man up.
Seems that Burt runs much like a man tilting and walking into a strong head wind. If he hasn't learned his trade in 4 years prior then we have squandered a scholarship. Unless we have a sleeper currently on the team who could be a running back, I would expect to see Nawahine starting next week.

[Did i miss something is bright not playing next week? I would bring in enoch as a backup and start getting reps.]

AgMac · Post by **AgMac** » September 29th, 2019, 9:38 pm

MaverickAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:32 pm
Time for Nawahine to join Bright in the backfield. I worry a bit about pass protection for no other reason than he is true frosh. Reports from camp were all positive and now it's time to see what he can do.

I actually specifically noticed Burt on pass protection. Not good. They brought a blitz and instead of stepping up and taking him on, he drove at his legs. The defender basically went right over him and nearly sacked JL.

MaverickAggie · Post by **MaverickAggie** » September 29th, 2019, 9:46 pm

AgMac wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:38 pm

MaverickAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:32 pm
Time for Nawahine to join Bright in the backfield. I worry a bit about pass protection for no other reason than he is true frosh. Reports from camp were all positive and now it's time to see what he can do.
I actually specifically noticed Burt on pass protection. Not good. They brought a blitz and instead of stepping up and taking him on, he drove at his legs. The defender basically went right over him and nearly sacked JL.

So Burt can't run or block....more of a reason to bring up rookie. That said, who wouldn't want to get their first look at D1 football against LSU at tiger stadium.....

. It's going to happen, Bright is not a 30+ carry back and we know Burt can't do squat. I think he has to play.

NavyBlueAggie · Post by **NavyBlueAggie** » September 29th, 2019, 9:59 pm

MaverickAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:46 pm

AgMac wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:38 pm

MaverickAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:32 pm
Time for Nawahine to join Bright in the backfield. I worry a bit about pass protection for no other reason than he is true frosh. Reports from camp were all positive and now it's time to see what he can do.

I actually specifically noticed Burt on pass protection. Not good. They brought a blitz and instead of stepping up and taking him on, he drove at his legs. The defender basically went right over him and nearly sacked JL.

So Burt can't run or block....more of a reason to bring up rookie. That said, who wouldn't want to get their first look at D1 football against LSU at tiger stadium...... It's going to happen, Bright is not a 30+ carry back and we know Burt can't do squat. I think he has to play.

One would generally conclude we chose poorly to offer Mr. Burt a scholarship. Appears he doesn't have a nose for collegiate smash mouth football that winners play.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » September 29th, 2019, 10:13 pm

With football having 578 scholarships it shouldn't hurt to take a flyer on a guy now and then

frankiesaysrelax · Post by **frankiesaysrelax** » September 30th, 2019, 8:08 am

Wasn’t Nawahine at Boise for a year already? I thought he graduated high school in 2017. If that is the case, shouldn’t he be ready to play now

bullshot · Post by **bullshot** » September 30th, 2019, 8:30 am

AgMac wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:38 pm

MaverickAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:32 pm
Time for Nawahine to join Bright in the backfield. I worry a bit about pass protection for no other reason than he is true frosh. Reports from camp were all positive and now it's time to see what he can do.
I actually specifically noticed Burt on pass protection. Not good. They brought a blitz and instead of stepping up and taking him on, he drove at his legs. The defender basically went right over him and nearly sacked JL.

Burt could easily be called for “blocking below the waist” a 15yarder.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » September 30th, 2019, 8:33 am

He would have actually had to block the guy first. He totally whiffed.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » September 30th, 2019, 8:37 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 8:33 am
He would have actually had to block the guy first. He totally whiffed.

The weird thing is he's huge. He went at that defender's feet like it was this big mismatch. He may have been even bigger than the linebacker.

Post by **aggies22** » September 30th, 2019, 8:55 am

Not long after the coaching staff was completely hired, I was told Gerald Bright is the only running back we have. Everybody else is garbage. We need to get a JuCo and a true freshman in here. Over the next month, the coaching staff went out and got Jaylen Warren and Enoch Nawahine. They moved Chase Nelson to RB and in April added Riley Burt. I do have to wonder what Riley Burt brings to the table that Morian Walker could not have done?

MaverickAggie · Post by **MaverickAggie** » September 30th, 2019, 9:02 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 8:55 am
Not long after the coaching staff was completely hired, I was told Gerald Bright is the only running back we have. Everybody else is garbage. We need to get a JuCo and a true freshman in here. Over the next month, the coaching staff went out and got Jaylen Warren and Enoch Nawahine. They moved Chase Nelson to RB and in April added Riley Burt. I do have to wonder what Riley Burt brings to the table that Morian Walker could not have done?

I forgot about Chase Nelson. At this point, I'd rather see him out there than Burt. Is Nelson above Nawahine in the depth chart?

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » September 30th, 2019, 9:03 am

Burt has played well on special teams.

dyedblue · Post by **dyedblue** » September 30th, 2019, 9:07 am

I want to see more of Burt before writing him off.

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NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » September 30th, 2019, 9:09 am

Your going to have to sneak into the locker room to get a better look.

Post by **aggies22** » September 30th, 2019, 9:36 am

MaverickAggie wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 9:02 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 8:55 am
Not long after the coaching staff was completely hired, I was told Gerald Bright is the only running back we have. Everybody else is garbage. We need to get a JuCo and a true freshman in here. Over the next month, the coaching staff went out and got Jaylen Warren and Enoch Nawahine. They moved Chase Nelson to RB and in April added Riley Burt. I do have to wonder what Riley Burt brings to the table that Morian Walker could not have done?
I forgot about Chase Nelson. At this point, I'd rather see him out there than Burt. Is Nelson above Nawahine in the depth chart?

No, as I posted above. If Jaylen Warren can't go against LSU, it's either going to be Nawahine or Burt. My money is on Nawahine.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » September 30th, 2019, 9:45 am

isn't Burt a 5th year Sr?

tinplater · Post by **tinplater** » September 30th, 2019, 9:46 am

[quote=aggies22

No, as I posted above. If Jaylen Warren can't go against LSU, it's either going to be Nawahine or Burt. My money is on Nawahine.
[/quote]

Can you imagine your first collegiate start as a freshman running back is against the #5 ranked team in the country? Reminds me of a certain QB's start against Auburn....

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » September 30th, 2019, 9:48 am

tinplater wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 9:46 am
[quote=aggies22

No, as I posted above. If Jaylen Warren can't go against LSU, it's either going to be Nawahine or Burt. My money is on Nawahine.
Can you imagine your first collegiate start as a freshman running back is against the #5 ranked team in the country? Reminds me of a certain QB's start against Auburn....

I feel Nawahine is being way overhyped right now. He may get there in the future and has potential, but from what I saw in fall camp he isn't ready yet.

Post by **aggies22** » September 30th, 2019, 9:52 am

frankiesaysrelax wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 8:08 am
Wasn’t Nawahine at Boise for a year already? I thought he graduated high school in 2017. If that is the case, shouldn’t he be ready to play now

Nawahine greyshirted the 2018 season. I've been given the impression that he never even showed up in Boise and instead spent the time at home in Hawaii. I know that his parents would like to see him redshirt the 2019 season.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » September 30th, 2019, 9:53 am

dyedblue wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 9:07 am
I want to see more of Burt before writing him off.

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I agree with this. Let's give him enough snaps that he can get up to game speed and get some rhythm.
Didn't the guy run for 150+ yards his last game with the Cougars?

Chatman · Post by **Chatman** » September 30th, 2019, 10:26 am

NavyBlueAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:59 pm

MaverickAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:46 pm

AgMac wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:38 pm

MaverickAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:32 pm
Time for Nawahine to join Bright in the backfield. I worry a bit about pass protection for no other reason than he is true frosh. Reports from camp were all positive and now it's time to see what he can do.

I actually specifically noticed Burt on pass protection. Not good. They brought a blitz and instead of stepping up and taking him on, he drove at his legs. The defender basically went right over him and nearly sacked JL.

So Burt can't run or block....more of a reason to bring up rookie. That said, who wouldn't want to get their first look at D1 football against LSU at tiger stadium...... It's going to happen, Bright is not a 30+ carry back and we know Burt can't do squat. I think he has to play.
One would generally conclude we chose poorly to offer Mr. Burt a scholarship. Appears he doesn't have a nose for collegiate smash mouth football that winners play.

Well it’s for one year. Even if it’s a flop we will have the scholarship back for next year.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » September 30th, 2019, 10:26 am

May as well throw Burt at LSU. Nawahine may not be ready for that moment even if he's better and a more natural running back. I'd hate for him to get hurt at this point in a game we're 25 pt dogs in.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » September 30th, 2019, 10:28 am

Chatman wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 10:26 am

NavyBlueAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:59 pm

MaverickAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:46 pm

AgMac wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:38 pm

MaverickAggie wrote: ↑
September 29th, 2019, 9:32 pm
Time for Nawahine to join Bright in the backfield. I worry a bit about pass protection for no other reason than he is true frosh. Reports from camp were all positive and now it's time to see what he can do.

I actually specifically noticed Burt on pass protection. Not good. They brought a blitz and instead of stepping up and taking him on, he drove at his legs. The defender basically went right over him and nearly sacked JL.

So Burt can't run or block....more of a reason to bring up rookie. That said, who wouldn't want to get their first look at D1 football against LSU at tiger stadium...... It's going to happen, Bright is not a 30+ carry back and we know Burt can't do squat. I think he has to play.
One would generally conclude we chose poorly to offer Mr. Burt a scholarship. Appears he doesn't have a nose for collegiate smash mouth football that winners play.
Well it’s for one year. Even if it’s a flop we will have the scholarship back for next year.

Agreed, plus he's been good on special teams. I think he'd be a good option at kick return with his speed and running style. I don't like the idea of using Bright on KR. He's too valuable to us as a RB.

hickaggie · Post by **hickaggie** » September 30th, 2019, 10:46 am

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 9:53 am

dyedblue wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 9:07 am
I want to see more of Burt before writing him off.

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I agree with this. Let's give him enough snaps that he can get up to game speed and get some rhythm.
Didn't the guy run for 150+ yards his last game with the Cougars?

I agree there needs to be more sample size. Burt has size and speed but runs straight up. Get him outside, some swing routes exc. Its not as if the options are great and the guy has had big games. However, the pass blocking must be better or the Aggies might as well use a TE or FB against LSU to protect Love. The rushers backs have to pick up are the ones that have the most momentum for a free shot if checked. And no one is better than Aranda (maybe Orlando) about bringing guys from everywhere. Also a front cut block within the 5 yard rule is fine once in a while and can slow defenders down but its got to be executed and used sparingly otherwise you basically become a launchpad.

Aggiestyle · Post by **Aggiestyle** » September 30th, 2019, 12:37 pm

Is Bright definitely out for LSU or is this discussion regarding the backup for him?

gomretat · Post by **gomretat** » September 30th, 2019, 1:03 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 9:53 am

dyedblue wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2019, 9:07 am
I want to see more of Burt before writing him off.

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I agree with this. Let's give him enough snaps that he can get up to game speed and get some rhythm.
Didn't the guy run for 150+ yards his last game with the Cougars?

Agreed. Not sure if next week is the right time but I keep thinking there should be situations where he can help. Not sure he has been given an adequate shot at this point.

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