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2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Lonely Cowboy » October 5th, 2019, 9:20 pm

We now enter into the most important phase of our 2019 football season.

Those in the know, can you list a 2 deep starting roster, considering all that happened today? Or do you need a bye week to figure this out?

Coach A won't comment on injuries. I want to know how we look going into the Reno game with our starters.



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by aggies22 » October 5th, 2019, 9:39 pm

I'll do some digging and see what I can put together for you.
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Lonely Cowboy » October 5th, 2019, 9:47 pm

aggies22 wrote:
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I'll do some digging and see what I can put together for you.
Thanks aggies22. I trust and respect your feedback more than anyone on this board.
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Roy McAvoy » October 6th, 2019, 8:59 am

I put together a depth chart based off what I saw on Saturday and assuming some guys aren't back from injury against Nevada to see what it looks like without them. Guys like Mariner & Repp may be back. I don't know. I do think Galeai will be fine, he was just done Saturday. I also am almost positive Warren will be back.

Aggies 22 is still a much better source on this, but I wanted to see if for myself as well so I put this together. (Red=Freshman, Green=Returning starter)

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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by taniataylor » October 6th, 2019, 5:31 pm

Jordan N is not our starting X receiver....he is in the slot. He starts in the H and switches in special situations.
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Roy McAvoy » October 6th, 2019, 8:30 pm

taniataylor wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 5:31 pm
Jordan N is not our starting X receiver....he is in the slot. He starts in the H and switches in special situations.
How many practices has he had with Saiosi out? I predict he’s moved to the outside to help get our best WR’s on the field.
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by taniataylor » October 6th, 2019, 8:41 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 8:30 pm
taniataylor wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 5:31 pm
Jordan N is not our starting X receiver....he is in the slot. He starts in the H and switches in special situations.
How many practices has he had with Saiosi out? I predict he’s moved to the outside to help get our best WR’s on the field.
I am willing to bet....
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Lonely Cowboy » October 6th, 2019, 9:22 pm

Okay - So I'm fairly new to this forum. But already @aggies22, @Roy McAvoy, & @taniataylor have interacted with my post. Thanks you guys. Kind of cool to have some well respected members even notice a post from me.

I go back to my original question...where are we, 2 deep, going into our game with UNR? That's all I care about now. What is the status of our 2 deep roster? Who is available, physically & emotionally, and ready to go?

Drawing a line in the sand today, so to speak, for the season, and just focusing on what happens going forward. Starting with UNR.

Domo arigatou Mr. Robato.

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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by taniataylor » October 6th, 2019, 10:12 pm

Welp....that’s one way to try to keep us on track.
Nice to know u. I know some things some of the time, but when it comes to Jordan Nathan, I know all things JNathan all of the time
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Turtle » October 6th, 2019, 10:15 pm

taniataylor wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 10:12 pm
Welp....that’s one way to try to keep us on track.
Nice to know u. I know some things some of the time, but when it comes to Jordan Nathan, I know all things JNathan all of the time
Well.. after YoungBloodAggie I guess. He is obviously the resident Jordan Nathan expert on this fan-board. :joking: ;)



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by taniataylor » October 6th, 2019, 10:18 pm

Turtle wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 10:15 pm
taniataylor wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 10:12 pm
Welp....that’s one way to try to keep us on track.
Nice to know u. I know some things some of the time, but when it comes to Jordan Nathan, I know all things JNathan all of the time
Well.. after YoungBloodAggie I guess. He is obviously the resident Jordan Nathan expert on this fan-board. :joking: ;)
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by aggies22 » October 7th, 2019, 5:41 am

Here's what I have going forward. Not much different than what Roy has.

OFFENSE
QUARTERBACK
10 Jordan Love (6-4, 225, Jr., 2L,3*)
3 Henry Colombi (6-2, 205, So., 1L, 3*)
5 Cooper Legas (6-1, 205, Fr., HS, 3*)

RUNNING BACK
1 Gerold Bright (5-10, 190, Sr., 3L, 3*)
20 Jaylen Warren (5-8, 215, Jr., JC, 3*)
34 Riley Burt (6-1, 215, Gr., TR., 3*)
27 Enoch Nawahine (6-1, 195, Fr., HS, 2*)

X - RECEIVER (LEFT)
11 Savon Scarver (5-11, 180, Jr., 2L, 3*)
12 Ajani (AJ) Carter (6-0, 185, Fr., HS, 3*)

Z - RECEIVER (RIGHT)
83 Derek Wright (6-1, 185, Jr., JC, NR)
14 Sean Carter (6-2, 195, Jr., JC, 2*)

H - RECEIVER (SLOT)
16 Jordan Nathan (5-8, 180, Jr., 2L, 2*)
13 Deven Thompkins (5-7, 160, So., 1L, 2*)
17 Taylor Compton (5-8, 175, Jr., 1L, NR)

TIGHT END
88 Carson Terrell (6-5, 245, Jr., 2L, 3*) OR
87 Caleb Repp (6-5, 225, Gr., TR., 3*)
89 Travis Boman (6-4, 245, Jr., 1L, NR)
47 Logan Lee (6-4, 245, Jr., 2L, NR)

LEFT TACKLE
72 Alfred Edwards (6-7, 310, So., 1L, 3*)
79 Wade Meacham (6-6, 305, RsFr., RS, 3*)

LEFT GUARD
75 Ty Shaw (6-4, 300, Jr., 1L, 2*)
64 Heneli Avendano (6-3, 290, RsFr., RS, NR)

CENTER
58 Demytrick Ali'ifua (6-3, 305, Jr., 2L, 2*)
74 Chandler Dolphin (6-3, 300, So., SQ, 2*)

RIGHT GUARD
65 Karter Shaw (6-4, 305, RsFr., RS, 2*)
66 Mohelika Uasike (6-1, 305, RsJr., 2L, 3*)

RIGHT TACKLE
78 Jacob South (6-5, 295, RsFr., RS, 2*)
76 Jackson Owens (6-5, 305, Fr., HS, 3*)
70 Hunter Hill (6-5, 285, Fr., HS, 3*)


DEFENSE

DEFENSIVE END
51 Justus Te’i (6-3, 240, RsJr., 2L, 2*)
93 Jacoby Wildman (6-2, 250, Sr., 3L, 2*)
97 Jake Pitcher (6-3, 245, Jr., SQ, NR)

RIGHT DEFENSIVE TACKLE
96 Chris Unga (6-0, 295, Sr., 3L, 3*)
90 Ritisoni (Soni) Fata (6-1, 295, Jr., 2L, NR)

LEFT DEFENSIVE TACKLE
91 Devon Anderson (6-1, 295, Sr., 2L, 2*)
92 Hale Motu'apuaka (6-2, 285, Fr., RS, 3*)
55 Christian LaValle (5-11, 240, Fr., HS, 3*)

EDGE
10 Tipa Galea'i (6-5, 235, Sr., 1L, 3*)
42 Nick Heninger (6-2, 245, Jr., Gr, TR, NR)

OUTSIDE LINEBACKER
51 Justus Te’i (6-3, 240, RsJr., 2L, 2*)
24 Dalton Baker (6-5, 245, Sr., 3L, 2*)

INSIDE LINEBACKER
ROVER
9 David Woodward (6-2, 235, Jr., 2L, 2*)
98 AJ Vongphachanh (6-3, 230, Fr., HS, 3*)
41 Elijah Shelton (6-1, 230, RsFr., RS, 2*)

AND

MIKE
33 Kevin Meitzenheimer (6-0, 230, Jr., 2L, 3*)
39 Maika Magalei (6-1, 235, RsSo., 1L, 3*)

CORNERBACK
LEFT
6 Cameron Haney (5-10, 185, Sr., 3L, 3*)
18 Cam Lampkin (5-9, 170, Fr., HS, 3*)

AND

RIGHT
7 DJ Williams (5-9, 180, Sr., 1L, 3*)
23 Dominic Tatum (6-2, 180, Fr., HS, 3*)

AND

NICKLE
21 Andre Grayson (5-8, 175, So., 1L, 2*)
25 Jarrod Green (5-11, 180, So., 1L, 2*)

STRONG SAFETY
3 Troy Lefeged (5-11, 190, Jr., JC, 3*)
5 Cash Gilliam (5-11, 200, Jr., JC, 3*)

FREE SAFETY
4 Shaq Bond (5-10, 195, Jr., 1L, 3*)
8 Braxton Gunther (5-10, 185, Jr., 1L, 3*)

SPECIAL TEAMS
LONG SNAPPER
57 Brandon Pada (5-10, 210, Sr., 2L, NR)
50 Jesse Vasquez (5-11, 225, Fr., HS, 2*)

PUNTER
49 Pierce Callister (6-0, 170, Fr., HS, 2*)
98 Chris Bartolic (6-0, 195, Jr., JC, NR)
89 Aaron Dalton (6-4, 215, Sr., 3L, NR)

KICKER
62 Dominik Eberle (6-2, 190, Sr., 2L, NR)
59 Connor Coles (6-0, 190, RsSo., RS, NR)

PUNT RETURN
16 Jordan Nathan (5-8, 180, Jr., 2L, 2*)
13 Deven Thompkins (5-7, 160, So., 1L, 2*)

KICK RETURN
11 Savon Scarver (5-11, 180, Jr., 2L, 3*)
1 Gerold Bright (5-10, 190, Sr., 3L, 3*)
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Roy McAvoy » October 7th, 2019, 7:07 am

Awesome, thanks for the update on the depth chart Aggies 22.

Tania, I'm still skeptical that with Mariner out we'll roll with Wright (a walk on) as the starter at WR without shifting Jordan out there at some point and then letting Compton/Thompkins play the slot.



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by aggies22 » October 7th, 2019, 7:11 am

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Awesome, thanks for the update on the depth chart Aggies 22.

Tania, I'm still skeptical that with Mariner out we'll roll with Wright (a walk on) as the starter at WR without shifting Jordan out there at some point and then letting Compton/Thompkins play the slot.
I think the issue that will come up is blocking. Wright is a much, much better blocker than Thompkins or Compton. Although Thompkins is absolutely the faster player, when evaluated head-to-head he might not be the better overall player (yet).
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Roy McAvoy » October 7th, 2019, 7:51 am

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October 6th, 2019, 9:22 pm
Okay - So I'm fairly new to this forum. But already @aggies22, @Roy McAvoy, & @taniataylor have interacted with my post. Thanks you guys. Kind of cool to have some well respected members even notice a post from me.

I go back to my original question...where are we, 2 deep, going into our game with UNR? That's all I care about now. What is the status of our 2 deep roster? Who is available, physically & emotionally, and ready to go?

Drawing a line in the sand today, so to speak, for the season, and just focusing on what happens going forward. Starting with UNR.

Domo arigatou Mr. Robato.

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I'm not sure whether to pick on any sarcasm here or not. Anyhow, welcome to the board! I enjoy the username and vibe.

As far as the status of players, if you look at the injury list on the depth chart I listed, I feel pretty confident in that (confirmed by Aggies22's depth chart) except with Repp. He's the only one who status up in the air. It'll be nice to get Jaylen Warren back after 3 weeks of rest.
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by aggies22 » October 7th, 2019, 8:09 am

Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 7:51 am
Lonely Cowboy wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 9:22 pm
Okay - So I'm fairly new to this forum. But already @aggies22, @Roy McAvoy, & @taniataylor have interacted with my post. Thanks you guys. Kind of cool to have some well respected members even notice a post from me.

I go back to my original question...where are we, 2 deep, going into our game with UNR? That's all I care about now. What is the status of our 2 deep roster? Who is available, physically & emotionally, and ready to go?

Drawing a line in the sand today, so to speak, for the season, and just focusing on what happens going forward. Starting with UNR.

Domo arigatou Mr. Robato.

LC
I'm not sure whether to pick on any sarcasm here or not. Anyhow, welcome to the board! I enjoy the username and vibe.

As far as the status of players, if you look at the injury list on the depth chart I listed, I feel pretty confident in that (confirmed by Aggies22's depth chart) except with Repp. He's the only one who status up in the air. It'll be nice to get Jaylen Warren back after 3 weeks of rest.
I was hesitant with Repp as well. I just left him until I hear differently.



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by AggieUprising50 » October 7th, 2019, 8:59 am

I heard Mariner suffered a sprain. How long do we expect him to be out?



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by slcagg » October 7th, 2019, 9:33 am

So possible 2 deep guys that may be back this year are?

1. Zahodri Jackson
2. Tarin Adams
3. Kyle Hack
4. Cash Gilliam
5. Siaosi Mariner
6. Caden Anderson

Anyone else?

Nice to Magalei back
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by slcagg » October 7th, 2019, 9:34 am

Possible guys who would contribute out for the year are:

1. Andy Koch
2. Fua Leilua
3. Andrew Peasley

Anyone else?



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by brian5562 » October 7th, 2019, 9:48 am

Not that it matters much this season but what puts Legas ahead of Calvin?



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Aglicious » October 7th, 2019, 1:15 pm

brian5562 wrote:
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Not that it matters much this season but what puts Legas ahead of Calvin?
I think the fact that he sports the yellow hat on the sidelines along side Columbi and is signaling in plays makes him the 3rd string. Calvin is dressing but I have not seen him in this role yet.
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Lonely Cowboy » October 7th, 2019, 8:14 pm

aggies22 wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 5:41 am
Here's what I have going forward. Not much different than what Roy has.

OFFENSE
QUARTERBACK
10 Jordan Love (6-4, 225, Jr., 2L,3*)
3 Henry Colombi (6-2, 205, So., 1L, 3*)
5 Cooper Legas (6-1, 205, Fr., HS, 3*)

RUNNING BACK
1 Gerold Bright (5-10, 190, Sr., 3L, 3*)
20 Jaylen Warren (5-8, 215, Jr., JC, 3*)
34 Riley Burt (6-1, 215, Gr., TR., 3*)
27 Enoch Nawahine (6-1, 195, Fr., HS, 2*)

X - RECEIVER (LEFT)
11 Savon Scarver (5-11, 180, Jr., 2L, 3*)
12 Ajani (AJ) Carter (6-0, 185, Fr., HS, 3*)

Z - RECEIVER (RIGHT)
83 Derek Wright (6-1, 185, Jr., JC, NR)
14 Sean Carter (6-2, 195, Jr., JC, 2*)

H - RECEIVER (SLOT)
16 Jordan Nathan (5-8, 180, Jr., 2L, 2*)
13 Deven Thompkins (5-7, 160, So., 1L, 2*)
17 Taylor Compton (5-8, 175, Jr., 1L, NR)

TIGHT END
88 Carson Terrell (6-5, 245, Jr., 2L, 3*) OR
87 Caleb Repp (6-5, 225, Gr., TR., 3*)
89 Travis Boman (6-4, 245, Jr., 1L, NR)
47 Logan Lee (6-4, 245, Jr., 2L, NR)

LEFT TACKLE
72 Alfred Edwards (6-7, 310, So., 1L, 3*)
79 Wade Meacham (6-6, 305, RsFr., RS, 3*)

LEFT GUARD
75 Ty Shaw (6-4, 300, Jr., 1L, 2*)
64 Heneli Avendano (6-3, 290, RsFr., RS, NR)

CENTER
58 Demytrick Ali'ifua (6-3, 305, Jr., 2L, 2*)
74 Chandler Dolphin (6-3, 300, So., SQ, 2*)

RIGHT GUARD
65 Karter Shaw (6-4, 305, RsFr., RS, 2*)
66 Mohelika Uasike (6-1, 305, RsJr., 2L, 3*)

RIGHT TACKLE
78 Jacob South (6-5, 295, RsFr., RS, 2*)
76 Jackson Owens (6-5, 305, Fr., HS, 3*)
70 Hunter Hill (6-5, 285, Fr., HS, 3*)


DEFENSE

DEFENSIVE END
51 Justus Te’i (6-3, 240, RsJr., 2L, 2*)
93 Jacoby Wildman (6-2, 250, Sr., 3L, 2*)
97 Jake Pitcher (6-3, 245, Jr., SQ, NR)

RIGHT DEFENSIVE TACKLE
96 Chris Unga (6-0, 295, Sr., 3L, 3*)
90 Ritisoni (Soni) Fata (6-1, 295, Jr., 2L, NR)

LEFT DEFENSIVE TACKLE
91 Devon Anderson (6-1, 295, Sr., 2L, 2*)
92 Hale Motu'apuaka (6-2, 285, Fr., RS, 3*)
55 Christian LaValle (5-11, 240, Fr., HS, 3*)

EDGE
10 Tipa Galea'i (6-5, 235, Sr., 1L, 3*)
42 Nick Heninger (6-2, 245, Jr., Gr, TR, NR)

OUTSIDE LINEBACKER
51 Justus Te’i (6-3, 240, RsJr., 2L, 2*)
24 Dalton Baker (6-5, 245, Sr., 3L, 2*)

INSIDE LINEBACKER
ROVER
9 David Woodward (6-2, 235, Jr., 2L, 2*)
98 AJ Vongphachanh (6-3, 230, Fr., HS, 3*)
41 Elijah Shelton (6-1, 230, RsFr., RS, 2*)

AND

MIKE
33 Kevin Meitzenheimer (6-0, 230, Jr., 2L, 3*)
39 Maika Magalei (6-1, 235, RsSo., 1L, 3*)

CORNERBACK
LEFT
6 Cameron Haney (5-10, 185, Sr., 3L, 3*)
18 Cam Lampkin (5-9, 170, Fr., HS, 3*)

AND

RIGHT
7 DJ Williams (5-9, 180, Sr., 1L, 3*)
23 Dominic Tatum (6-2, 180, Fr., HS, 3*)

AND

NICKLE
21 Andre Grayson (5-8, 175, So., 1L, 2*)
25 Jarrod Green (5-11, 180, So., 1L, 2*)

STRONG SAFETY
3 Troy Lefeged (5-11, 190, Jr., JC, 3*)
5 Cash Gilliam (5-11, 200, Jr., JC, 3*)

FREE SAFETY
4 Shaq Bond (5-10, 195, Jr., 1L, 3*)
8 Braxton Gunther (5-10, 185, Jr., 1L, 3*)

SPECIAL TEAMS
LONG SNAPPER
57 Brandon Pada (5-10, 210, Sr., 2L, NR)
50 Jesse Vasquez (5-11, 225, Fr., HS, 2*)

PUNTER
49 Pierce Callister (6-0, 170, Fr., HS, 2*)
98 Chris Bartolic (6-0, 195, Jr., JC, NR)
89 Aaron Dalton (6-4, 215, Sr., 3L, NR)

KICKER
62 Dominik Eberle (6-2, 190, Sr., 2L, NR)
59 Connor Coles (6-0, 190, RsSo., RS, NR)

PUNT RETURN
16 Jordan Nathan (5-8, 180, Jr., 2L, 2*)
13 Deven Thompkins (5-7, 160, So., 1L, 2*)

KICK RETURN
11 Savon Scarver (5-11, 180, Jr., 2L, 3*)
1 Gerold Bright (5-10, 190, Sr., 3L, 3*)


Thanks @aggies22. Love your insight and feedback. Are you on the coaching staff?

I really only get to log into here at night. So forgive my delayed reply. Thanks for your reply.

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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Lonely Cowboy » October 7th, 2019, 8:19 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 7:51 am
Lonely Cowboy wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 9:22 pm
Okay - So I'm fairly new to this forum. But already @aggies22, @Roy McAvoy, & @taniataylor have interacted with my post. Thanks you guys. Kind of cool to have some well respected members even notice a post from me.

I go back to my original question...where are we, 2 deep, going into our game with UNR? That's all I care about now. What is the status of our 2 deep roster? Who is available, physically & emotionally, and ready to go?

Drawing a line in the sand today, so to speak, for the season, and just focusing on what happens going forward. Starting with UNR.

Domo arigatou Mr. Robato.

LC
I'm not sure whether to pick on any sarcasm here or not. Anyhow, welcome to the board! I enjoy the username and vibe.

As far as the status of players, if you look at the injury list on the depth chart I listed, I feel pretty confident in that (confirmed by Aggies22's depth chart) except with Repp. He's the only one who status up in the air. It'll be nice to get Jaylen Warren back after 3 weeks of rest.
Copy that @Roy McAvoy. Thanks for your feedback. I really only get to interact here in the evenings, so sorry for the delayed reply. Thanks for interacting with me.

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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Naked Bull Rider » October 7th, 2019, 9:01 pm

Can someone with some inside knowledge please tell me why DJ Williams is still starting at CB?

Aggies22?
Anyone who’s seen the 2s practice?

I cringe watching #7.



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by QuackAttackAggie » October 7th, 2019, 9:06 pm

Naked Bull Rider wrote:Can someone with some inside knowledge please tell me why DJ Williams is still starting at CB?

Aggies22?
Anyone who’s seen the 2s practice?

I cringe watching #7.
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by sdiggety » October 7th, 2019, 9:31 pm

Naked Bull Rider wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:01 pm
Can someone with some inside knowledge please tell me why DJ Williams is still starting at CB?

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Anyone who’s seen the 2s practice?

I cringe watching #7.
This is one of the biggest mysteries in the world. The dude looks like he's out there with money bet on the other team.

Passing on him is like taking candy from a baby. He can't break any blocks to prevent big gains. and misses a ton of tackles when he is 2 feet away with no blockers.

Yet there he is every game to give up at least 2 uncontested end zone passes per game where he just falls on his face. There has to be a freshman that deserves a shot.



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by ususports » October 7th, 2019, 10:05 pm

sdiggety wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:31 pm
Naked Bull Rider wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:01 pm
Can someone with some inside knowledge please tell me why DJ Williams is still starting at CB?

Aggies22?
Anyone who’s seen the 2s practice?

I cringe watching #7.
This is one of the biggest mysteries in the world. The dude looks like he's out there with money bet on the other team.

Passing on him is like taking candy from a baby. He can't break any blocks to prevent big gains. and misses a ton of tackles when he is 2 feet away with no blockers.

Yet there he is every game to give up at least 2 uncontested end zone passes per game where he just falls on his face. There has to be a freshman that deserves a shot.
There was a play where the ball was caught by the LSU receiver DJ was guarding, and Williams was the only defender near the ball. He made no attempt to tackle the player. He stuck out his hands like he was going to try to push the player out of bounds, but he totally whiffed and made it look like he was playing two hand touch football during recess at elementary school.



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Naked Bull Rider » October 7th, 2019, 10:20 pm

ususports wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 10:05 pm
sdiggety wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:31 pm
Naked Bull Rider wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:01 pm
Can someone with some inside knowledge please tell me why DJ Williams is still starting at CB?

Aggies22?
Anyone who’s seen the 2s practice?

I cringe watching #7.
This is one of the biggest mysteries in the world. The dude looks like he's out there with money bet on the other team.

Passing on him is like taking candy from a baby. He can't break any blocks to prevent big gains. and misses a ton of tackles when he is 2 feet away with no blockers.

Yet there he is every game to give up at least 2 uncontested end zone passes per game where he just falls on his face. There has to be a freshman that deserves a shot.
There was a play where the ball was caught by the LSU receiver DJ was guarding, and Williams was the only defender near the ball. He made no attempt to tackle the player. He stuck out his hands like he was going to try to push the player out of bounds, but he totally whiffed and made it look like he was playing two hand touch football during recess at elementary school.
Does anyone else remember the Wake Forest series where Wake put him on an island and ran the same play to his side three times in a row because his coverage was weak and it was successful every time? I thought Ena was going to pull him after that game tbh. Surprised no personnel changes have been made.



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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Aggie19 » October 7th, 2019, 11:03 pm

Naked Bull Rider wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 10:20 pm
ususports wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 10:05 pm
sdiggety wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:31 pm
Naked Bull Rider wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:01 pm
Can someone with some inside knowledge please tell me why DJ Williams is still starting at CB?

Aggies22?
Anyone who’s seen the 2s practice?

I cringe watching #7.
This is one of the biggest mysteries in the world. The dude looks like he's out there with money bet on the other team.

Passing on him is like taking candy from a baby. He can't break any blocks to prevent big gains. and misses a ton of tackles when he is 2 feet away with no blockers.

Yet there he is every game to give up at least 2 uncontested end zone passes per game where he just falls on his face. There has to be a freshman that deserves a shot.
There was a play where the ball was caught by the LSU receiver DJ was guarding, and Williams was the only defender near the ball. He made no attempt to tackle the player. He stuck out his hands like he was going to try to push the player out of bounds, but he totally whiffed and made it look like he was playing two hand touch football during recess at elementary school.
Does anyone else remember the Wake Forest series where Wake put him on an island and ran the same play to his side three times in a row because his coverage was weak and it was successful every time? I thought Ena was going to pull him after that game tbh. Surprised no personnel changes have been made.
Same thing was happening against Stoney Brook. CBs were playing off, we had 1 deep safety. SB completed 3 or 4 little out patterns to that tall receiver of theirs. Then we switched coverage, 2 deep safeties, CBs move up to bump. Stoney runs that play again and Williams swats it away. Maybe he got lucky, but he looked like a different player getting in the face of the receiver at the line.

For those with more knowledge than mine, could the scheme we are playing be affecting Williams play? What is different from last year. Full disclosure, I haven't watched the other games again to see if the same thing happened in those, I just noticed in the SB game. Just curious.
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by TrueBlueFan » October 8th, 2019, 7:57 am

Aggie19 wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 11:03 pm
Naked Bull Rider wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 10:20 pm
ususports wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 10:05 pm
sdiggety wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:31 pm
Naked Bull Rider wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:01 pm
Can someone with some inside knowledge please tell me why DJ Williams is still starting at CB?

Aggies22?
Anyone who’s seen the 2s practice?

I cringe watching #7.
This is one of the biggest mysteries in the world. The dude looks like he's out there with money bet on the other team.

Passing on him is like taking candy from a baby. He can't break any blocks to prevent big gains. and misses a ton of tackles when he is 2 feet away with no blockers.

Yet there he is every game to give up at least 2 uncontested end zone passes per game where he just falls on his face. There has to be a freshman that deserves a shot.
There was a play where the ball was caught by the LSU receiver DJ was guarding, and Williams was the only defender near the ball. He made no attempt to tackle the player. He stuck out his hands like he was going to try to push the player out of bounds, but he totally whiffed and made it look like he was playing two hand touch football during recess at elementary school.
Does anyone else remember the Wake Forest series where Wake put him on an island and ran the same play to his side three times in a row because his coverage was weak and it was successful every time? I thought Ena was going to pull him after that game tbh. Surprised no personnel changes have been made.
Same thing was happening against Stoney Brook. CBs were playing off, we had 1 deep safety. SB completed 3 or 4 little out patterns to that tall receiver of theirs. Then we switched coverage, 2 deep safeties, CBs move up to bump. Stoney runs that play again and Williams swats it away. Maybe he got lucky, but he looked like a different player getting in the face of the receiver at the line.

For those with more knowledge than mine, could the scheme were are playing be affecting Williams play? What is different from last year. Full disclosure, I haven't watched the other games again to see if the same thing happened in those, I just noticed in the SB game. Just curious.
Part of what is different from last year is he is now our #1 corner. That means he is going to line up on the #1 receiver. Last year he wasn’t asked to lock down on their best receiver every play. That is at least part of the reason he gets burned so often.
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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by Bybs25 » October 8th, 2019, 10:30 am

TrueBlueFan wrote:
Aggie19 wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 11:03 pm
Naked Bull Rider wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 10:20 pm
ususports wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 10:05 pm
sdiggety wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:31 pm
Naked Bull Rider wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 9:01 pm
Can someone with some inside knowledge please tell me why DJ Williams is still starting at CB?

Aggies22?
Anyone who’s seen the 2s practice?

I cringe watching #7.
This is one of the biggest mysteries in the world. The dude looks like he's out there with money bet on the other team.

Passing on him is like taking candy from a baby. He can't break any blocks to prevent big gains. and misses a ton of tackles when he is 2 feet away with no blockers.

Yet there he is every game to give up at least 2 uncontested end zone passes per game where he just falls on his face. There has to be a freshman that deserves a shot.
There was a play where the ball was caught by the LSU receiver DJ was guarding, and Williams was the only defender near the ball. He made no attempt to tackle the player. He stuck out his hands like he was going to try to push the player out of bounds, but he totally whiffed and made it look like he was playing two hand touch football during recess at elementary school.
Does anyone else remember the Wake Forest series where Wake put him on an island and ran the same play to his side three times in a row because his coverage was weak and it was successful every time? I thought Ena was going to pull him after that game tbh. Surprised no personnel changes have been made.
Same thing was happening against Stoney Brook. CBs were playing off, we had 1 deep safety. SB completed 3 or 4 little out patterns to that tall receiver of theirs. Then we switched coverage, 2 deep safeties, CBs move up to bump. Stoney runs that play again and Williams swats it away. Maybe he got lucky, but he looked like a different player getting in the face of the receiver at the line.

For those with more knowledge than mine, could the scheme were are playing be affecting Williams play? What is different from last year. Full disclosure, I haven't watched the other games again to see if the same thing happened in those, I just noticed in the SB game. Just curious.
Part of what is different from last year is he is now our #1 corner. That means he is going to line up on the #1 receiver. Last year he wasn’t asked to lock down on their best receiver every play. That is at least part of the reason he gets burned so often.
Well a couple of notes. He has poor technique with his eyes when in man coverage, doesn't turn his head well and just doesn't really recognize routes well. Over the past 4 games of watching the freshman from LSU 24 and when we played that kid has really honed his skills in man coverage amd you could see such a clear difference between him and DJ. He might be another classic case of a great practice warrior that earns his spot each week in practice but is a complete headcase and let down in a game environment. Played with a ton of guys like that.

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Re: 2 Deep - Going Forward

Post by aggies22 » October 8th, 2019, 1:22 pm

I think part of the problem when it comes to evaluating our cornerbacks by their practice performance is they get to see our scheme and lineup against the same dude day after day. It doesn't take long to figure out tendencies, cadence and even the exact play call listening to the same thing over and over. Because of this, some dudes might look better than they really are. For what it's worth confidence is a MUST when playing this position and DJ doesn't look like he is playing with much. My take falls into the same category as Bybs25 and his take on practice warriors.



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