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KissMyAg wrote: ↑

December 9th, 2019, 5:31 pm

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Ahhh, UNLV, the place where coaches careers go to die.

I won't believe someone can be successful there until someone is successful there. The conversation about how impressive 8 win seasons has come up on this board. UNLV has technically only had two 8 win seasons in their entire history since a 3rd was vacated. One of those was in 1979. So in the last 4 decades they have had one 8 win season. Since their last 8 win season in the year 2000, they have not only had 18/19 losing seasons, they have had seven 2 win seasons. They are the definition of a bad football program. I've occasionally heard people say if the right guy takes the job they could be something special. I believe that about Colorado State. I don't know if anyone can win at unlv. I'll believe it when I see it. When something has never been done before, you got to see it to believe it.

Maybe the new stadium will help. Or even less fans will go since they could watch the NFL instead.... I would think it would help though.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑

December 9th, 2019, 5:39 pm

I won't believe someone can be successful there until someone is successful there. The conversation about how impressive 8 win seasons has come up on this board. UNLV has technically only had two 8 win seasons in their entire history since a 3rd was vacated. One of those was in 1979. So in the last 4 decades they have had one 8 win season. Since their last 8 win season in the year 2000, they have not only had 18/19 losing seasons, they have had seven 2 win seasons. They are the definition of a bad football program. I've occasionally heard people say if the right guy takes the job they could be something special. I believe that about Colorado State. I don't know if anyone can win at unlv. I'll believe it when I see it. When something has never been done before, you got to see it to believe it.

There were plenty of people saying that about USU until about a decade ago. UNLV is getting a new stadium and I have to believe with their locale that they can have a great team. I'm not sure they currently have an AD that can put the right people in place to get them there though.

UNLV wanted to hire Morgan Scalley (Utah’s DC) by Utah just made him the head coach in waiting so he isn’t going anywhere.

I wonder if having the Raiders there will help, hurt, or make no difference.

ProvoAggie wrote: ↑

December 9th, 2019, 6:26 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑

December 9th, 2019, 5:39 pm

I won't believe someone can be successful there until someone is successful there. The conversation about how impressive 8 win seasons has come up on this board. UNLV has technically only had two 8 win seasons in their entire history since a 3rd was vacated. One of those was in 1979. So in the last 4 decades they have had one 8 win season. Since their last 8 win season in the year 2000, they have not only had 18/19 losing seasons, they have had seven 2 win seasons. They are the definition of a bad football program. I've occasionally heard people say if the right guy takes the job they could be something special. I believe that about Colorado State. I don't know if anyone can win at unlv. I'll believe it when I see it. When something has never been done before, you got to see it to believe it.

There were plenty of people saying that about USU until about a decade ago. UNLV is getting a new stadium and I have to believe with their locale that they can have a great team. I'm not sure they currently have an AD that can put the right people in place to get them there though.

Like I said in my post, I've heard people say what you are saying now. I'll believe it when I see it. Here are the records of UNLV's coaches since they became D1a:

Harvey Hyde 1982–1985 8–37–1 .185
Wayne Nunnely 1986–1989 19–25–0 .432
Jim Strong 1990–1993 17–27–0 .386
Jeff Horton 1994–1998 13–44–0 .228
John Robinson 1999–2004 28–42–0 .400
Mike Sanford 2005–2009 16–43–0 .271
Bobby Hauck 2010–2014 15–49–0 .234
Tony Sanchez 2015–2019 22–40–0 .336

There are bad programs and then there are dead programs. UNLV is a dead football program. They are not a mediocre football program or a sleeping giant program. They are as bad as it gets. Morgan Scalley is smart to not go there. Mike Sanford probably regrets going there. I imagine he could have followed Urban to Florida and been his OC there which would have greatly increased his stock for a big time job.

ProvoAggie wrote: ↑

December 9th, 2019, 6:26 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑

December 9th, 2019, 5:39 pm

I won't believe someone can be successful there until someone is successful there. The conversation about how impressive 8 win seasons has come up on this board. UNLV has technically only had two 8 win seasons in their entire history since a 3rd was vacated. One of those was in 1979. So in the last 4 decades they have had one 8 win season. Since their last 8 win season in the year 2000, they have not only had 18/19 losing seasons, they have had seven 2 win seasons. They are the definition of a bad football program. I've occasionally heard people say if the right guy takes the job they could be something special. I believe that about Colorado State. I don't know if anyone can win at unlv. I'll believe it when I see it. When something has never been done before, you got to see it to believe it.

There were plenty of people saying that about USU until about a decade ago. UNLV is getting a new stadium and I have to believe with their locale that they can have a great team. I'm not sure they currently have an AD that can put the right people in place to get them there though.

There is one guy that used to regularly post on the old old old site that would always go off about how we don't have the resources we need to have a successful football program. Then he complained about us taking the Maverik Stadium deal which we did for THAT EXACT REASON.

Now that players can get paid UNLV is gonna be good.

NCAA gonna really regret letting players get sponsorships when UNLV's 5* recruit and future first round draft pick is sponsored by the "Spearmint Rhino" (SPENCE!) they're going to start dominating. Casinos will pay big money to get people in.

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2019, 5:45 am

Now that players can get paid UNLV is gonna be good.

NCAA gonna really regret letting players get sponsorships when UNLV's 5* recruit and future first round draft pick is sponsored by the "Spearmint Rhino" (SPENCE!) they're going to start dominating. Casinos will pay big money to get people in.

I'm not necessarily sure that will happen BUT you bring up an interesting point. Lots of money to burn in Vegas.

While this is true, I would think that NFL players will be more than happy to take all their $$$

JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2019, 6:53 am

While this is true, I would think that NFL players will be more than happy to take all their $$$

This is true as well.

Why doesn't UNLV hire another high school head coach? What about Favero? He was pretty good at Logan.

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2019, 10:48 am

Why doesn't UNLV hire another high school head coach? What about Favero? He was pretty good at Logan.

Why not take a second swing with the Bishop Gorman Coach? I think it's Sanchez's brother.

aggies22 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2019, 10:52 am

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2019, 10:48 am

Why doesn't UNLV hire another high school head coach? What about Favero? He was pretty good at Logan.

Why not take a second swing with the Bishop Gorman Coach? I think it's Sanchez's brother.

Sanchez 1.1 Not really a new model just a patch.

JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2019, 6:53 am

While this is true, I would think that NFL players will be more than happy to take all their $$$

I've never seen an NFL contract, but if I were an NFL team I'd put it in the contract that they cant. Whereas if the NCAA implementation is similar to the CA law, there is nothing that the NCAA or school could do to stop them.

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2019, 11:22 am

JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2019, 6:53 am

While this is true, I would think that NFL players will be more than happy to take all their $$$

I've never seen an NFL contract, but if I were an NFL team I'd put it in the contract that they cant. Whereas if the NCAA implementation is similar to the CA law, there is nothing that the NCAA or school could do to stop them.

I'm pretty sure NFL players are free to license their likeness in any manner they want. I know Rat would know the answer for certain.

Their home stadium is about to become kick-(I can't express myself without swearing).

Their $31 million state of the art practice/training facility is barely christened.

I think UNLV could be perennially good with the right guy now that their facilities are beyond legit.

WOW

TrueBlueAggie123 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2019, 5:10 pm

WOW

Home run hire, if true.

TrueBlueAggie123 wrote: ↑

December 10th, 2019, 5:10 pm

WOW

SAY IT AIN'T SO DAVE!!

If Aranda to UNLV happens I will be utterly flabbergasted. This makes absolutely no sense to me.

Why would Aranda leave LSU where he makes more than 80% of the D1 coaches with a perpetually rolling contract. For UNLV. Please say no Dave.


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No f*#$ing way.

It would make absolutely no sense. He has such an awesome job right now without the head coach responsibilities and making more than most head coaches sounds like a great spot to be in.

Honestly, I think UNLV is a sleeping giant. With the new NFL team/stadium coming to Vegas and the ability to pay players for their likeness coming, I can see UNLV blowing up if you they get the right coach in there.

It wouldn't surprise me if the realignment that SDSU & UNLV position themselves to be picked up by the Pac 12.

I get how the paying players thing will be beneficial for the big programs with strong fanbases. Local companies would be more interested in getting those players to do their commercials, etc. Does anyone really see UNLV players being in demand, though?

....and the Rebels officially go with Marcus Arroyo from Oregon. Sounds like he is bringing Heyward, the Co-DC from Oregon, with him. Seems like a decent hire?

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑

December 11th, 2019, 9:17 am

I get how the paying players thing will be beneficial for the big programs with strong fanbases. Local companies would be more interested in getting those players to do their commercials, etc. Does anyone really see UNLV players being in demand, though?

IF and that's a BIG if, the NCAA goes through with allowing collegiate players to make money off their likeness, there is plenty of money that could be used to lure much better athletes than what they are currently recruiting and signing.

Yeah, that seems like a good hire IMO.

Arroyo was making 825 at Oregon. That’s what Gary makes.
Wonder what UNLV is paying the guy?!?!?

Arroyo, who spent the previous three seasons as Oregon’s offensive coordinator, agreed to a five-year deal worth $7.7 million. The deal begins at $1.5 million next year and rises to $1.6 million by the end of the term, as of now tying him with the third-richest football contract in the Mountain West.

BLUERUFiO wrote: ↑

December 11th, 2019, 2:52 pm

Yeah, that seems like a good hire IMO.

So was Shelton.

I guess that is better value than what CSU got but man are things getting crazy.