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Post by coolag » December 21st, 2019, 8:37 pm

Glad we gave Boise State that uneven share of conference $ again. :crazy:
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Re: Boise State

Post by Sl7vk » December 22nd, 2019, 10:05 pm

The whole system seems to be teetering on the brink.
The bext 5 years are going to prove super interesting.



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Post by NavyBlueAggie » December 22nd, 2019, 10:23 pm

Unsustainable???? Don't know how long the MWC will sit back and watch the Broncos get the first and biggest financial bite of T V revenue. Where else could they go with current league alignments?



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Re: Boise State

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Re: Boise State

Post by ViAggie » December 23rd, 2019, 9:42 am

Can't believe how bad Bozo sht the bed. Embarrassing! At least SDSU got the job done in a big way, I think that was their best game of the year.


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Post by Yossarian » December 23rd, 2019, 1:11 pm

Wouldn't it be better for the conference as a whole to split this money evenly among the conference members to build parity and competition? Would that not be better for the strength of the conference? If you continually give one member a financial advantage, how will the other members be able to compete in conference and improve the strength of conference perception in non-conference competition? This seems like a very bad idea.
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Re: Boise State

Post by Winning Team » December 23rd, 2019, 9:06 pm

Yossarian wrote:
December 23rd, 2019, 1:11 pm
Wouldn't it be better for the conference as a whole to split this money evenly among the conference members to build parity and competition? Would that not be better for the strength of the conference? If you continually give one member a financial advantage, how will the other members be able to compete in conference and improve the strength of conference perception in non-conference competition? This seems like a very bad idea.
Isn’t that communism? If it was us winning every year I doubt you would want our money to go to the rest of the conference.



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Post by pilotaggie » December 23rd, 2019, 9:42 pm

How much did each school get this year?

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Re: Boise State

Post by Blitz79 » December 24th, 2019, 2:05 pm

Winning Team wrote:
December 23rd, 2019, 9:06 pm
Yossarian wrote:
December 23rd, 2019, 1:11 pm
Wouldn't it be better for the conference as a whole to split this money evenly among the conference members to build parity and competition? Would that not be better for the strength of the conference? If you continually give one member a financial advantage, how will the other members be able to compete in conference and improve the strength of conference perception in non-conference competition? This seems like a very bad idea.
Isn’t that communism? If it was us winning every year I doubt you would want our money to go to the rest of the conference.
If everyone was getting payed individually then maybe. The conference is getting the TV contract so no.



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Re: Boise State

Post by oleblu111 » December 24th, 2019, 2:14 pm

Blitz79 wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 2:05 pm
Winning Team wrote:
December 23rd, 2019, 9:06 pm
Yossarian wrote:
December 23rd, 2019, 1:11 pm
Wouldn't it be better for the conference as a whole to split this money evenly among the conference members to build parity and competition? Would that not be better for the strength of the conference? If you continually give one member a financial advantage, how will the other members be able to compete in conference and improve the strength of conference perception in non-conference competition? This seems like a very bad idea.
Isn’t that communism? If it was us winning every year I doubt you would want our money to go to the rest of the conference.
If everyone was getting payed individually then maybe. The conference is getting the TV contract so no.
Of course the conference divides up bowl revenue so in a way they are helping us out also when T.V. contracts are given having one of the strongest schools in the G-5 group helps get more revenue.

BSU got the deal when they were close to going to the big east conference, without their return you might have had New Mexico st instead and a T.V. contract for much less revenue.

They could go the AAC and get more revenue than what they now get, we best hope that does not happen, with them that conference would be much better than the MWC. They could add BYU and BSU which would be a real blow for the MWC.



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Re: Boise State

Post by GUS » December 24th, 2019, 2:23 pm

I really think that traveling to the east coast for the AAC games would get old in a hurry. They would soon see that the travel would wear them down, just like it does Hawaii, and realize that the AAC was a mistake.



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Re: Boise State

Post by aggies22 » December 24th, 2019, 3:54 pm

If they think they can do better, then go.
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Re: Boise State

Post by oleblu111 » December 24th, 2019, 4:20 pm

Well they could have a division that has Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, BSU, BYU. That is not to bad as far as football travel goes, and the revenue that conference would receive would be far more than what the MWC could come up with.

I can tell you that this might happen, and the MWC will hurt as a result.



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Re: Boise State

Post by coolag » December 24th, 2019, 4:23 pm

I'm with 22, bye bye.


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Re: Boise State

Post by aggies22 » December 24th, 2019, 4:51 pm

oleblu111 wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 4:20 pm
Well they could have a division that has Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, BSU, BYU. That is not to bad as far as football travel goes, and the revenue that conference would receive would be far more than what the MWC could come up with.

I can tell you that this might happen, and the MWC will hurt as a result.
The Mountain West is going to hurt no matter what. The fact of the matter is most of the money is and always will go to the Power 5 conferences and because of geography, the AAC isn't far from becoming the 6th power conference. If they include byu, they'll regret it. Everybody that deals with them always does.

I just wish Craig Thompson would work in a manner that benefits all our conference members and not just Boise State and a couple of others. I hope he realizes that if Boise State were to leave, he doesn't get to go with them, he has to stay behind and attempt to manage a conference whose remaining members he's mostly neglected for over a decade.



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Re: Boise State

Post by Blitz79 » December 24th, 2019, 5:04 pm

Is football that much more powerful than basketball? Personally I like and watch much more basketball.



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Re: Boise State

Post by aggies22 » December 24th, 2019, 5:06 pm

Blitz79 wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 5:04 pm
Is football that much more powerful than basketball? Personally I like and watch much more basketball.
Monetarily speaking? Yes! You don't see 80,000 people lining up to see a regular season college basketball game.



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Re: Boise State

Post by Blitz79 » December 24th, 2019, 5:12 pm

But there are what? 16 basketball home games as opposed to 6.



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Post by 2004AG » December 24th, 2019, 5:23 pm

oleblu111 wrote:Well they could have a division that has Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, BSU, BYU. That is not to bad as far as football travel goes, and the revenue that conference would receive would be far more than what the MWC could come up with.

I can tell you that this might happen, and the MWC will hurt as a result.
How can this be? I’ve been told more times than I can count that BYU can only hurt us and the MW if they are a member of it.


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Re: Boise State

Post by aggies22 » December 24th, 2019, 5:24 pm

Blitz79 wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 5:12 pm
But there are what? 16 basketball home games as opposed to 6.
I see the validity of your question. Hypothetically speaking if a school has a 10,000 seat stadium for hoops and sells out all 16 home games, that is 160,000 hoops fans. If the same school has a 70,000 seat football stadium and sells out all 6 home games you are looking at 420,000 fans.



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Re: Boise State

Post by aggies22 » December 24th, 2019, 5:26 pm

2004AG wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 5:23 pm
oleblu111 wrote:Well they could have a division that has Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, BSU, BYU. That is not to bad as far as football travel goes, and the revenue that conference would receive would be far more than what the MWC could come up with.

I can tell you that this might happen, and the MWC will hurt as a result.
How can this be? I’ve been told more times than I can count that BYU can only hurt us and the MW if they are a member of it.


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I'm thinking he is just referring to Boise State if they were to leave. byu will still be a bunch of tools whether they stay put or eventually join a conference.



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Post by Chupamedia » December 24th, 2019, 6:33 pm

aggies22 wrote:
Blitz79 wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 5:12 pm
But there are what? 16 basketball home games as opposed to 6.
I see the validity of your question. Hypothetically speaking if a school has a 10,000 seat stadium for hoops and sells out all 16 home games, that is 160,000 hoops fans. If the same school has a 70,000 seat football stadium and sells out all 6 home games you are looking at 420,000 fans.
I’m not disagreeing that football is much bigger monetarily than basketball - but what school has a 70k football stadium and only 10k basketball arena?



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Re: Boise State

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » December 25th, 2019, 12:10 am

Chupamedia wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 6:33 pm
aggies22 wrote:
Blitz79 wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 5:12 pm
But there are what? 16 basketball home games as opposed to 6.
I see the validity of your question. Hypothetically speaking if a school has a 10,000 seat stadium for hoops and sells out all 16 home games, that is 160,000 hoops fans. If the same school has a 70,000 seat football stadium and sells out all 6 home games you are looking at 420,000 fans.
I’m not disagreeing that football is much bigger monetarily than basketball - but what school has a 70k football stadium and only 10k basketball arena?
That arena comparison isnt far off. For example Michigan has a 110,000 seat football stadium and a 12,000 seat basketball arena. Lsu has a 100,000 seat football stadium and a 13,000 seat basketball arena. Other big time programs have similar ratios. Football is far and away the moneymaker even with less games.
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Re: Boise State

Post by oleblu111 » December 25th, 2019, 2:50 pm

2004AG wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 5:23 pm
oleblu111 wrote:Well they could have a division that has Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, BSU, BYU. That is not to bad as far as football travel goes, and the revenue that conference would receive would be far more than what the MWC could come up with.

I can tell you that this might happen, and the MWC will hurt as a result.
How can this be? I’ve been told more times than I can count that BYU can only hurt us and the MW if they are a member of it.


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That reason escapes me. If BYU was to join the conference it would helpUSU a ton, with instate coverage, game attendance. I fear envy is a big reason why USU people do not want BYU in the same conference. I would love to have them join the MWC.



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Post by 2004AG » December 25th, 2019, 3:32 pm

oleblu111 wrote:
2004AG wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 5:23 pm
oleblu111 wrote:Well they could have a division that has Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, BSU, BYU. That is not to bad as far as football travel goes, and the revenue that conference would receive would be far more than what the MWC could come up with.

I can tell you that this might happen, and the MWC will hurt as a result.
How can this be? I’ve been told more times than I can count that BYU can only hurt us and the MW if they are a member of it.


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That reason escapes me. If BYU was to join the conference it would helpUSU a ton, with instate coverage, game attendance. I fear envy is a big reason why USU people do not want BYU in the same conference. I would love to have them join the MWC.
It’s cutting off our nose to spite our face. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.


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Re: Boise State

Post by oleblu111 » December 25th, 2019, 4:13 pm

2004AG wrote:
December 25th, 2019, 3:32 pm
oleblu111 wrote:
2004AG wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 5:23 pm
oleblu111 wrote:Well they could have a division that has Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, BSU, BYU. That is not to bad as far as football travel goes, and the revenue that conference would receive would be far more than what the MWC could come up with.

I can tell you that this might happen, and the MWC will hurt as a result.
How can this be? I’ve been told more times than I can count that BYU can only hurt us and the MW if they are a member of it.


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That reason escapes me. If BYU was to join the conference it would helpUSU a ton, with instate coverage, game attendance. I fear envy is a big reason why USU people do not want BYU in the same conference. I would love to have them join the MWC.
It’s cutting off our nose to spite our face. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.


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I believe that if BYU membership was to be voted on USU would be a yes. We did try to get them in the WAC when they went indy.



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Re: Boise State

Post by Chupamedia » December 26th, 2019, 10:44 am

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:
Chupamedia wrote:
December 24th, 2019, 6:33 pm

I’m not disagreeing that football is much bigger monetarily than basketball - but what school has a 70k football stadium and only 10k basketball arena?
That arena comparison isnt far off. For example Michigan has a 110,000 seat football stadium and a 12,000 seat basketball arena. Lsu has a 100,000 seat football stadium and a 13,000 seat basketball arena. Other big time programs have similar ratios. Football is far and away the moneymaker even with less games.
Good to know - thanks for the clarification



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Re: Boise State

Post by Imakeitrain » December 26th, 2019, 8:39 pm

Until Aggie alumni dominate the state legislature, I hope that Crockett, Hartwell & the board of regents know better than being a "no" on the off chance BYU wanted back in the MWC.



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