Big Ten moving to conference-only model for all sports this fall

pcaggie · Post by **pcaggie** » July 9th, 2020, 1:33 pm

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ports-fall

Aggiealum13 · Post by **Aggiealum13** » July 9th, 2020, 1:37 pm

It's going to be a lean year financially with MW conference-only play because I bet my house that the PAC 12 follows suit and we lose the Washington State and Washington game.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 1:40 pm

Man it would really suck if it were 2001 and we were Independent. We would have no one to play.

dhilk3785 · Post by **dhilk3785** » July 9th, 2020, 1:49 pm

It the Pac12 follows suite, Notre Dame loses Wisconsin, Stanford, and USC, and BYU loses Michigan State, Minnesota, Utah, Arizona, and Stanford.

I really think it's all gonna end up moving to the spring. Notre Dame loses Wisconsin, but Wisconsin is also losing Notre Dame too. Losing Ohio State at Oregon, Michigan at Washington, Michigan State at Miami.... these are big time money games.

I also can't imagine they'll be able to get away with not buying out the contracts of cancelled games against the G5 schools? The G5 conferences will be the last to cancel since they're heavily dependent on the P5 money games.

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 1:50 pm

The Mountain West is going to save BYU, aren't they?

Intermeddler · Post by **Intermeddler** » July 9th, 2020, 1:56 pm

dhilk3785 wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 1:49 pm
It the Pac12 follows suite, Notre Dame loses Wisconsin, Stanford, and USC, and BYU loses Michigan State, Minnesota, Utah, Arizona, and Stanford.

I really think it's all gonna end up moving to the spring. Notre Dame loses Wisconsin, but Wisconsin is also losing Notre Dame too. Losing Ohio State at Oregon, Michigan at Washington, Michigan State at Miami.... these are big time money games.

I also can't imagine they'll be able to get away with not buying out the contracts of cancelled games against the G5 schools? The G5 conferences will be the last to cancel since they're heavily dependent on the P5 money games.

There is most likely force majeure language that will get them out of paying buyouts. They may agree to reduced buyouts to avoid fighting over it and rescheduling a game in a future year, if the smaller programs survive this.

gomretat · Post by **gomretat** » July 9th, 2020, 2:01 pm

If the P5 all go to conference only AND if we still have a fall season, I think every conference will follow suit.

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 2:03 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 1:40 pm
Man it would really suck if it were 2001 and we were Independent. We would have no one to play.

That's a hell of a way to talk about an undefeated season, Larry.

Intermeddler · Post by **Intermeddler** » July 9th, 2020, 2:04 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 1:50 pm
The Mountain West is going to save BYU, aren't they?

Hadn't thought about this but yeah we probably will.

ND will play an ACC schedule. This could be the end of NMSU, UMass, and UConn football at the FBS level.

jpswensen · Post by **jpswensen** » July 9th, 2020, 2:19 pm

Any chance that in-state teams will extend their seasons by playing each other. IMO this makes great sense from a revenue perspective. Home and home with both BYU and Utah to round out the season, with each team getting to keep their gate revenues? I think it could work out for everyone.

sstrasser · Post by **sstrasser** » July 9th, 2020, 2:22 pm

jpswensen wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 2:19 pm
Any chance that in-state teams will extend their seasons by playing each other. IMO this makes great sense from a revenue perspective. Home and home with both BYU and Utah to round out the season, with each team getting to keep their gate revenues? I think it could work out for everyone.

but Utah would rather die than come to Logan, but for the right price, we would go to SLC

Post by **ProvoAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 2:25 pm

jpswensen wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 2:19 pm
Any chance that in-state teams will extend their seasons by playing each other. IMO this makes great sense from a revenue perspective. Home and home with both BYU and Utah to round out the season, with each team getting to keep their gate revenues? I think it could work out for everyone.

I don't think it will be up to the schools. If the conference decides that their teams won't play OOC games then it's the conferences decision.

VegasBornAggie · Post by **VegasBornAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 2:30 pm

Pac12 is going to announce they’re following suit apparently.

TrueBlueAggie123 · Post by **TrueBlueAggie123** » July 9th, 2020, 2:38 pm

VegasBornAggie wrote:
Pac12 is going to announce they’re following suit apparently.

I hope the Washington State game just gets pushed back a year. Was so excited to finally see a quality P5 team come to Logan.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » July 9th, 2020, 2:55 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 1:50 pm
The Mountain West is going to save BYU, aren't they?

IF IF we do. Then we need to play hard ball and get exactly what we want.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » July 9th, 2020, 2:58 pm

Doubt there’ll be a season, guys. It’s too bad, but probably the right call.

I hate 2020.

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 3:27 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 2:58 pm
Doubt there’ll be a season, guys. It’s too bad, but probably the right call.

I hate 2020.

I'm sure we'll see something. Worst case scenario it'll be pushed to spring. Way too much money on the line at some of these schools to forego the season all-together. They'll move heaven and earth to make something happen.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » July 9th, 2020, 3:39 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 2:55 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 1:50 pm
The Mountain West is going to save BYU, aren't they?
IF IF we do. Then we need to play hard ball and get exactly what we want.

Screw em. Let them have 3 games this season

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 3:49 pm

The Big Ten has Ford Field, Lucas Oil Stadium and US Bank Stadium to play games if they have to play December through February. We don't have a dome in Logan, but maybe we could play our home games at Dixie State's Stadium or Idaho State's Holt Arena. We could probably get more fans to see us play there when it's at least warm as opposed to Logan in the winter.

Post by **ProvoAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 3:55 pm

TrueBlueAggie123 wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 2:38 pm

VegasBornAggie wrote:
Pac12 is going to announce they’re following suit apparently.
I hope the Washington State game just gets pushed back a year. Was so excited to finally see a quality P5 team come to Logan.

If there is no season this year then I'm sure they won't be able to just push it back a year. I don't know what the contract says but hopefully it's written in a way that we can just work with them on a future date.

Post by **aggies22** » July 9th, 2020, 4:08 pm

TrueBlueAggie123 wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 2:38 pm

VegasBornAggie wrote:
Pac12 is going to announce they’re following suit apparently.
I hope the Washington State game just gets pushed back a year. Was so excited to finally see a quality P5 team come to Logan.

No chance. Our schedule is filled for non-conference games for 2021 and beyond.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » July 9th, 2020, 4:15 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 2:58 pm
Doubt there’ll be a season, guys. It’s too bad, but probably the right call.

I hate 2020.

I said the same thing...... in March. As soon as everything shut down and they started talking about needing a vaccine, I could see where this was heading. I wouldn't be surprised if winter/spring sports were canceled, too.

My kid was asking me how long he was going to have to wear a mask - I half-jokingly told him "the rest of your life". I don't know how long the mask wearing will go on, but it will be at least another couple of years, I think.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » July 9th, 2020, 4:29 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 4:15 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 2:58 pm
Doubt there’ll be a season, guys. It’s too bad, but probably the right call.

I hate 2020.
I said the same thing...... in March. As soon as everything shut down and they started talking about needing a vaccine, I could see where this was heading. I wouldn't be surprised if winter/spring sports were canceled, too.

My kid was asking me how long he was going to have to wear a mask - I half-jokingly told him "the rest of your life". I don't know how long the mask wearing will go on, but it will be at least another couple of years, I think.

So where does that leave society and our economy. If this is the case this is devastating. We’ve been able to keep the economy going with bailouts but as soon as that ends unemployment will soar.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » July 9th, 2020, 4:54 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 4:29 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 4:15 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 2:58 pm
Doubt there’ll be a season, guys. It’s too bad, but probably the right call.

I hate 2020.
I said the same thing...... in March. As soon as everything shut down and they started talking about needing a vaccine, I could see where this was heading. I wouldn't be surprised if winter/spring sports were canceled, too.

My kid was asking me how long he was going to have to wear a mask - I half-jokingly told him "the rest of your life". I don't know how long the mask wearing will go on, but it will be at least another couple of years, I think.
So where does that leave society and our economy. If this is the case this is devastating. We’ve been able to keep the economy going with bailouts but as soon as that ends unemployment will soar.

I guess that is the big question.

I think it will be painful in the short term. Human beings are creative and adaptive. In the long term, I think one of two things is likely:

1. Large gatherings of people in close proximity will largely go away. This will affect things like large sporting events, musical concerts, political gatherings, and the like. It will also affect the travel industry. To fill the void, the development of virtual reality simulations of these events will expand greatly and become common to everybody - like a cell phone. You will be able to travel and attend sporting events and rock concerts, etc. through a virtual reality system that will only get more realistic with time. You will be able to interact with others as they join the same reality you are experiencing. You just won't pass your germs back and forth.

2. Medical advancement will progress rapidly to where humans have microscopic robots in their bloodstream that will recognize and combat viruses, parasites, cancers, and biological malfunctions. You will have realtime data of what is going on in your body and these microrobots may be programmed to destroy those organisms or malfunctioning cells before they become a problem. Human lifespans will extend far beyond what they are now.

The two scenarios may not necessarily be mutually exclusive.

People will adapt their education and their fields of work. There will be way more jobs in the computer programming, biomedical, and marketing fields to unroll these products. I think traditional college/university campus learning environments will also go away. Everything will be virtual classrooms with much more collaboration from all corners of the globe. The educational system will be changed in a big way (I can see a lot more programming/logic classes in the elementary and junior high level coursework). A 4-year degree from a university will not be as valuable as an ability to write code, mine consumer data, and market products.

There may still be a need for that hippie girl to make turquoise and hemp jewelry, though.

Blitz79 · Post by **Blitz79** » July 9th, 2020, 5:11 pm

Sadly moving to a conference only season it's just the first step to canceling the season. The virus doesn't care in what conference your opponent plays.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 5:38 pm

You guys are all a ray of sunshine aren't you? Trying to bring us all down man!!!

/s

yes it sucks, reality sucks, sorry.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » July 9th, 2020, 5:45 pm

Okay, here’s how I’m rationalizing this being okay.

If there is a season at this point, it’ll almost certainly be conference only. I honestly don’t think our team was up for the quality of our non-conference schedule this year and would have ended with a losing record. Playing a conference-only schedule gives me much more hope we could have a winning season.

Additionally, if there is no season, at least we’re missing a season where we weren’t expected to be very good anyway.

These thoughts help me cope a little.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » July 9th, 2020, 7:39 pm

If more conferences go to conferences game only couldn't the Mountain West do something similar and just do like a 10-game game conference season this year?

WasatchAggie · Post by **WasatchAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 8:04 pm

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » July 9th, 2020, 8:51 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 5:45 pm
Okay, here’s how I’m rationalizing this being okay.

If there is a season at this point, it’ll almost certainly be conference only. I honestly don’t think our team was up for the quality of our non-conference schedule this year and would have ended with a losing record. Playing a conference-only schedule gives me much more hope we could have a winning season.

Additionally, if there is no season, at least we’re missing a season where we weren’t expected to be very good anyway.

These thoughts help me cope a little.

Love it. Basketball is the one that would really bum me if it was canceled since I think we have legit chance in the conference. Like you said football I’m not as high on it.

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » July 9th, 2020, 9:59 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 4:54 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 4:29 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 4:15 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2020, 2:58 pm
Doubt there’ll be a season, guys. It’s too bad, but probably the right call.

I hate 2020.
I said the same thing...... in March. As soon as everything shut down and they started talking about needing a vaccine, I could see where this was heading. I wouldn't be surprised if winter/spring sports were canceled, too.

My kid was asking me how long he was going to have to wear a mask - I half-jokingly told him "the rest of your life". I don't know how long the mask wearing will go on, but it will be at least another couple of years, I think.
So where does that leave society and our economy. If this is the case this is devastating. We’ve been able to keep the economy going with bailouts but as soon as that ends unemployment will soar.
I guess that is the big question.

I think it will be painful in the short term. Human beings are creative and adaptive. In the long term, I think one of two things is likely:

1. Large gatherings of people in close proximity will largely go away. This will affect things like large sporting events, musical concerts, political gatherings, and the like. It will also affect the travel industry. To fill the void, the development of virtual reality simulations of these events will expand greatly and become common to everybody - like a cell phone. You will be able to travel and attend sporting events and rock concerts, etc. through a virtual reality system that will only get more realistic with time. You will be able to interact with others as they join the same reality you are experiencing. You just won't pass your germs back and forth.

2. Medical advancement will progress rapidly to where humans have microscopic robots in their bloodstream that will recognize and combat viruses, parasites, cancers, and biological malfunctions. You will have realtime data of what is going on in your body and these microrobots may be programmed to destroy those organisms or malfunctioning cells before they become a problem. Human lifespans will extend far beyond what they are now.

The two scenarios may not necessarily be mutually exclusive.

People will adapt their education and their fields of work. There will be way more jobs in the computer programming, biomedical, and marketing fields to unroll these products. I think traditional college/university campus learning environments will also go away. Everything will be virtual classrooms with much more collaboration from all corners of the globe. The educational system will be changed in a big way (I can see a lot more programming/logic classes in the elementary and junior high level coursework). A 4-year degree from a university will not be as valuable as an ability to write code, mine consumer data, and market products.

There may still be a need for that hippie girl to make turquoise and hemp jewelry, though.

Another option that isn't going to be popular is we realize that humans are organisms that get sick and die from viruses sometimes. It has happened for the whole of human history and we're still here. We'll never just leave people to nature, but there might be a change in the current mindset that it is worth anything and everything to save a life. We might get more realistic about people suffering and dying like humans were prior to the last 60-70 years or so. Tragic, but it might end up being necessary.

Before anybody goes crazy on me, I'm not advocating that. I'm suggesting it as a possibility.

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