Choo chooooo

rAggie · Post by **rAggie** » November 5th, 2020, 9:36 pm

Friends,

I know a lot of you hate me because I trolled the choo choo once or twice, but those who actually know me will tell you I’m actually a good dude.

I choo choo’d you here today to have some real talk about our current football situation.

Here’s the way I see it: we have a coach who was brought in at the behest of our biggest donor. This donor deserves the deference given to him to bring in this hire. But there are clear indications that the hire isn’t going to work out. The 0-3 start with pathetic statistics is possibly the least of the problems we could have if we had competent journalists to look into things. (Not counting aggies22, he kicks (I can't express myself without swearing), I’m talking about the hard news folks).

What I would like to ask is where do we go from here? As I see it there are three paths/options:

1) The staff turns things around and salvages this season
2) Hartwell collects the ammo he needs to fire GA
3) we accept mediocrity and take a 2-6 or worse season and roll it into another two win season next year.

If you actually know me you know I want this team to succeed and I put my money where my mouth is. But my god is this coaching staff hateable. What do we do guys?

Agzrule · Post by **Agzrule** » November 5th, 2020, 9:39 pm

Hope he walks away, it’s our only hope, and it would be the right thing to do

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » November 5th, 2020, 9:43 pm

2-6?! Ha. What a dream that would be. 0-8 is fo sho what will happen.

Intermeddler · Post by **Intermeddler** » November 5th, 2020, 9:44 pm

The staph isn’t turning this around and we don’t have the money to fix this unless Laub ponies up to fix it so I guess we only have option 3.

Of course, he might bail or get fired for cause...

AgMac · Post by **AgMac** » November 5th, 2020, 9:52 pm

Great, now I want to defend Gary again.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » November 5th, 2020, 10:03 pm

When you choo choo, you got to bring some news.

stang · Post by **stang** » November 5th, 2020, 10:03 pm

I think the choo choo is broken.

bpd · Post by **bpd** » November 5th, 2020, 10:05 pm

Given the economic situation, Gary is not getting fired.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » November 5th, 2020, 10:35 pm

stang wrote: ↑
November 5th, 2020, 10:03 pm
I think the choo choo is broken.

Yeah, you choo choo when you got news not opinions.

Post by **Aglicious** » November 6th, 2020, 12:53 am

I'll take door #2 please.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » November 6th, 2020, 7:09 am

Intermeddler wrote: ↑
November 5th, 2020, 9:44 pm
The staph isn’t turning this around and we don’t have the money to fix this unless Laub ponies up to fix it so I guess we only have option 3.

Of course, he might bail or get fired for cause...

LOL. Staph. Well played. They have been a bit like an infection affecting the play of the team.

I will hope GA walks away and BoVee can make some successful overtures to his boy down in Ogden.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » November 6th, 2020, 11:54 am

While I'm grateful for everything the Laubs have done for Aggie sports, I feel it's really bad to let boosters/owners make decisions on personnel.

As for where we go from here. It all depends on Gary's contract. I don't know how much or how long he's contracted. We aren't a program that can afford to pay coaches for NOT coaching our team. That's probably especially true after COIVID has beat the crap out of our budget. Unless Laub is willing to accept his mistake and pay for it himself, we may be stuck.

In other words, we may not have any choice but to watch and hope these guys can turn things around.

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » November 6th, 2020, 12:26 pm

I'm sad, but have pretty much resigned myself to more of the same for at least another season after this one, and who knows how long after that. Seems it's always our fate.

And it proves yet again that you really can't go home again.

oleblu111 · Post by **oleblu111** » November 6th, 2020, 1:32 pm

What folks need to understand is Jim has been asked his opinion on every coaching hire we have made for some time now, that is not a dumb thing to do, without him and Sir Stan we would be in deep trouble, like not being in the MWC

I'm not sure what happened behind closed doors but we ended up with G.A. which to me seems to have been a good hire, because a big problem at USU is the constant change in football staff, like 3 different O coordinators in 3 seasons, head coach's leave as soon as they have success. The thought was G.A. might be a Stew type of hire.

Gary will be here through the 2021 season because we do not have the fan's that will buy out his contract, also if you search for a new coach firing one after 2 seasons would make me concerned about applying at USU. So good or bad that is what it is.

I just read a piece from a friend that is talking about the suites that will be available in the RES $80 million dollar expansion, the first priority will be given to those 22 that have given at least $1 million to the program. With that kind of money you can payout what is needed to hire or fire We can not do that.

Choo is a good guy for sure.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » November 6th, 2020, 1:37 pm

oleblu111 wrote: ↑
November 6th, 2020, 1:32 pm
What folks need to understand is Jim has been asked his opinion on every coaching hire we have made for some time now, that is not a dumb thing to do, without him and Sir Stan we would be in deep trouble, like not being in the MWC

I'm not sure what happened behind closed doors but we ended up with G.A. which to me seems to have been a good hire, because a big problem at USU is the constant change in football staff, like 3 different O coordinators in 3 seasons, head coach's leave as soon as they have success. The thought was G.A. might be a Stew type of hire.

Gary will be here through the 2021 season because we do not have the fan's that will buy out his contract, also if you search for a new coach firing one after 2 seasons would make me concerned about applying at USU. So good or bad that is what it is.

I just read a piece from a friend that is talking about the suites that will be available in the RES $80 million dollar expansion, the first priority will be given to those 22 that have given at least $1 million to the program. With that kind of money you can payout what is needed to hire or fire We can not do that.

My opinion on hiring Jay hill is mixed, we have hired a former Weber state coach which was a disaster, with that said Jay may be ok if G.A. fails next season, but he will need time to build a program , also Jay was not the first choice of Hartwell for the job last time out.

Choo is a good guy for sure.

Yeah I mean Gary was a very popular hire. I was skeptical and wasn't a fan, but it seemed most of the board did. There were a lot of excited people December of 2018. People were calling for him to be brought back several years before that. There was even a thread where people were mad at Matt Wells because supposedly he didn't choose to bring Gary in as a consultant after Gary quit Oregon State. I wish I could bump some of those threads, but they lock old threads on here. Maybe that is a good thing.

ChowderAggie · Post by **ChowderAggie** » November 7th, 2020, 3:16 am

I know Choo. Choo is a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Choo.

swordsman1989 · Post by **swordsman1989** » November 7th, 2020, 4:37 am

Allowing one influential donor to make hiring/firing decisions rarely works out well.

Post by **AggiesForever** » November 7th, 2020, 7:11 am

I don't know that said donor made the decision. But there is nothing wrong with seeking their input. Happens in the corporate world all the time.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » November 7th, 2020, 7:40 am

AggiesForever wrote: ↑
November 7th, 2020, 7:11 am
I don't know that said donor made the decision. But there is nothing wrong with seeking their input. Happens in the corporate world all the time.

Agreed, happens at all programs with their big donors. Which is fine since they are the ones keeping programs afloat.

blueblood · Post by **blueblood** » November 7th, 2020, 9:32 pm

Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Very prophetic post Mr. Riggs.

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Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » November 7th, 2020, 10:13 pm

ChowderAggie wrote: ↑
November 7th, 2020, 3:16 am
I know Choo. Choo is a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Choo.

Yep, MidnightAggietrain is the choo choo guy who brings the goods. I don't know this imposter doing choo choos.

rAggie · Post by **rAggie** » November 8th, 2020, 12:19 am

I am the MidnightTrainAggie.

Post by **Aglicious** » November 8th, 2020, 12:48 am

You have to admit....this choo choo may have not been planned for the ultimate news we received but it was timely nonetheless.

Chatman · Post by **Chatman** » November 8th, 2020, 4:03 am

rAggie wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2020, 12:19 am
I am the MidnightTrainAggie.

Truth

swordsman1989 · Post by **swordsman1989** » November 8th, 2020, 5:30 am

I think it is pretty clear that rAggie had an inkling something was coming. This sentence is quite telling:

The 0-3 start with pathetic statistics is possibly the least of the problems we could have if we had competent journalists to look into things. (Not counting aggies22, he kicks (I can't express myself without swearing), I’m talking about the hard news folks).

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » November 8th, 2020, 5:48 am

rAggie wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2020, 12:19 am
I am the MidnightTrainAggie.

I am MidnightTrainAggie.

(Are we doing a Spartacus thing?)

rAggie · Post by **rAggie** » November 8th, 2020, 10:06 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2020, 12:48 am
You have to admit....this choo choo may have not been planned for the ultimate news we received but it was timely nonetheless.

Sometimes the gut doesn’t know how to interpret its feelings.

And sometimes you order Pizza Hut.

BLUERUFiO · Post by **BLUERUFiO** » November 8th, 2020, 12:29 pm

I’d like to imagine that one of you is Mr. Laub. Choo choo!

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » November 8th, 2020, 2:06 pm

rAggie wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2020, 12:19 am
I am the MidnightTrainAggie.

Are you really though? Next you are going to tell me Dan quayle is Jack Kennedy.

LKGates · Post by **LKGates** » November 8th, 2020, 9:54 pm

rAggie wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2020, 10:06 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2020, 12:48 am
You have to admit....this choo choo may have not been planned for the ultimate news we received but it was timely nonetheless.
Sometimes the gut doesn’t know how to interpret its feelings.

And sometimes you order Pizza Hut.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » November 8th, 2020, 11:51 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
November 8th, 2020, 12:48 am
You have to admit....this choo choo may have not been planned for the ultimate news we received but it was timely nonetheless.

True that. Maybe RAggie is who he claims to be. It ended up being a massive choo choo. I shouldnt have doubted it.

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