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What Frank should have said Friday evening
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What Frank should have said Friday evening
I love and support my football players and this university. I appreciate my players enthusiastic support for me to be the next head coach. I was proud to be one of the finalists but acknowledge that coach Blake Anderson is more qualified at this time. I believe that there was some misunderstanding in the players meeting with John Hartwell and president Cockett. I believe the president understands that the missionary program and my membership in that religion and me being Polynesian with the Polynesian recruiting emphasis were a plus in my qualifications, but not withstanding I was not selected. I don’t know exactly what was said by President Cockett, but even if she did miss speak in her wording I don’t think that her intent was to say that the Church or my Polynesian heritage was a reason I was not selected coach at this time.
I wish coach Blake Anderson and my former player the best! I will continue in my career as a football coach wherever that will take me, and I hope one day to be the most qualified applicant to be the football coach at Utah State University.
I wish coach Blake Anderson and my former player the best! I will continue in my career as a football coach wherever that will take me, and I hope one day to be the most qualified applicant to be the football coach at Utah State University.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
That's what a true blue aggie through and through would say. Frank is not.USUaggie wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 3:36 pmI love and support my football players and this university. I appreciate my players enthusiastic support for me to be the next head coach. I was proud to be one of the finalists but acknowledge that coach Blake Anderson is more qualified at this time. I believe that there was some misunderstanding in the players meeting with John Hartwell and president Cockett. I believe the president understands that the missionary program and my membership in that religion and me being Polynesian with the Polynesian recruiting emphasis were a plus in my qualifications, but not withstanding I was not selected. I don’t know exactly what was said by President Cockett, but even if she did miss speak in her wording I don’t think that her intent was to say that the Church or my Polynesian heritage was a reason I was not selected coach at this time.
I wish coach Blake Anderson and my former player the best! I will continue in my career as a football coach wherever that will take me, and I hope one day to be the most qualified applicant to be the football coach at Utah State University.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
Very well said.USUaggie wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 3:36 pmI love and support my football players and this university. I appreciate my players enthusiastic support for me to be the next head coach. I was proud to be one of the finalists but acknowledge that coach Blake Anderson is more qualified at this time. I believe that there was some misunderstanding in the players meeting with John Hartwell and president Cockett. I believe the president understands that the missionary program and my membership in that religion and me being Polynesian with the Polynesian recruiting emphasis were a plus in my qualifications, but not withstanding I was not selected. I don’t know exactly what was said by President Cockett, but even if she did miss speak in her wording I don’t think that her intent was to say that the Church or my Polynesian heritage was a reason I was not selected coach at this time.
I wish coach Blake Anderson and my former player the best! I will continue in my career as a football coach wherever that will take me, and I hope one day to be the most qualified applicant to be the football coach at Utah State University.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
That would have been better, but I would add one change:
USUaggie wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 3:36 pmI love and support my football players and this university. I appreciate my players enthusiastic support for me to be the next head coach. I was proud to be one of the finalists but acknowledge that coach Blake Anderson is more qualified at this time. I believe that there was some misunderstanding in the players meeting with John Hartwell and president Cockett. I believe the president understands that the missionary program and my membership in that religion and me being Polynesian with the Polynesian recruiting emphasis were a plus in my qualifications, but not withstanding I was not selected. I don’t know exactly what was said by President Cockett, but even if she did misspeak in her wording, I don’t think that her intent was to say that the Church or my Polynesian heritage was a reason I was not selected coach at this time.
As we look to the future, I hope that I myself, President Cocket, USU Football, and all those at Utah State, will continually work to expand our understanding, and empathy for diverse cultures. We can always improve in these areas. I wish coach Blake Anderson and my former players the best! I will continue in my career as a football coach wherever that will take me, and I hope one day to be the most qualified applicant to be the football coach at Utah State University.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
Not impressed by Frank Maile's comment at all. It's almost like he welcomed the self sabotage. I'm glad he is not going to be our coach and I hope he already been asked to clean out his office and turn in his keys.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
Unless, of course, based on what he was told she said, he feels he was discriminated against on the basis of religion and race. I have a hard time with everybody trying to tell Frank how he should feel. Let this awful situation play out.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
For his own sake I still think even if he believes there may have been some discrimination he should have made a statement similar to this and then support a behind the scenes investigation. See where that leads. Don't burn down the house you love. Consider your long term career.tetonaggie wrote:Unless, of course, based on what he was told she said, he feels he was discriminated against on the basis of religion and race. I have a hard time with everybody trying to tell Frank how he should feel. Let this awful situation play out.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
That's fair.USUaggie wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 4:20 pmFor his own sake I still think even if he believes there may have been some discrimination he should have made a statement similar to this and then support a behind the scenes investigation. See where that leads. Don't burn down the house you love. Consider your long term career.tetonaggie wrote:Unless, of course, based on what he was told she said, he feels he was discriminated against on the basis of religion and race. I have a hard time with everybody trying to tell Frank how he should feel. Let this awful situation play out.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
I think Frank is a true blue Aggie and this doesn't change that. I have been on both sides of things working out and getting completely dumped on in situations where you gave your heart and soul to making someplace better so I can empathize with how Frank must be feeling and that is his right.
However, Frank would indeed look much better if he had done what USUaggie suggested. I think looking back at some point he may agree. I wish him the best and am grateful for what he has done for USU. Every coaching staff needs a coach that players trust and relate with.
However, Frank would indeed look much better if he had done what USUaggie suggested. I think looking back at some point he may agree. I wish him the best and am grateful for what he has done for USU. Every coaching staff needs a coach that players trust and relate with.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
Yep, we still don't fully know what was said. This board seems to be 95% in favor of Dr Cockett which might be the right take, but we don't fully know yet. I also think the players deserve some benefit of the doubt that they wouldn't just not play a game simply because Maile didn't get the job. Maile was never close to being the front runner for the job and the players had to have known that.tetonaggie wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 3:57 pmUnless, of course, based on what he was told she said, he feels he was discriminated against on the basis of religion and race. I have a hard time with everybody trying to tell Frank how he should feel. Let this awful situation play out.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
I think he should have just simply said that he wasn't on the call and didn't hear what was said and would await the results of the investigation that was announced by the Board of Trustees. The end.USUaggie wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 3:36 pmI love and support my football players and this university. I appreciate my players enthusiastic support for me to be the next head coach. I was proud to be one of the finalists but acknowledge that coach Blake Anderson is more qualified at this time. I believe that there was some misunderstanding in the players meeting with John Hartwell and president Cockett. I believe the president understands that the missionary program and my membership in that religion and me being Polynesian with the Polynesian recruiting emphasis were a plus in my qualifications, but not withstanding I was not selected. I don’t know exactly what was said by President Cockett, but even if she did miss speak in her wording I don’t think that her intent was to say that the Church or my Polynesian heritage was a reason I was not selected coach at this time.
I wish coach Blake Anderson and my former player the best! I will continue in my career as a football coach wherever that will take me, and I hope one day to be the most qualified applicant to be the football coach at Utah State University.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
Problem is, there is no opportunity for financial gain by releasing a statement like that.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
This would not only have been a true statement, it would have helped Frank's job prospects (here or elsewhere) immensely.USUaggie wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 3:36 pmI love and support my football players and this university. I appreciate my players enthusiastic support for me to be the next head coach. I was proud to be one of the finalists but acknowledge that coach Blake Anderson is more qualified at this time. I believe that there was some misunderstanding in the players meeting with John Hartwell and president Cockett. I believe the president understands that the missionary program and my membership in that religion and me being Polynesian with the Polynesian recruiting emphasis were a plus in my qualifications, but not withstanding I was not selected. I don’t know exactly what was said by President Cockett, but even if she did miss speak in her wording I don’t think that her intent was to say that the Church or my Polynesian heritage was a reason I was not selected coach at this time.
I wish coach Blake Anderson and my former player the best! I will continue in my career as a football coach wherever that will take me, and I hope one day to be the most qualified applicant to be the football coach at Utah State University.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
Didn't he hire a Public Relations firm to craft the response? You would think a professional organization would know better? Unless they are crafting a lawsuit for him as well?JSHarvey wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 8:45 amThis would not only have been a true statement, it would have helped Frank's job prospects (here or elsewhere) immensely.USUaggie wrote: ↑December 13th, 2020, 3:36 pmI love and support my football players and this university. I appreciate my players enthusiastic support for me to be the next head coach. I was proud to be one of the finalists but acknowledge that coach Blake Anderson is more qualified at this time. I believe that there was some misunderstanding in the players meeting with John Hartwell and president Cockett. I believe the president understands that the missionary program and my membership in that religion and me being Polynesian with the Polynesian recruiting emphasis were a plus in my qualifications, but not withstanding I was not selected. I don’t know exactly what was said by President Cockett, but even if she did miss speak in her wording I don’t think that her intent was to say that the Church or my Polynesian heritage was a reason I was not selected coach at this time.
I wish coach Blake Anderson and my former player the best! I will continue in my career as a football coach wherever that will take me, and I hope one day to be the most qualified applicant to be the football coach at Utah State University.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
you are a nuts if you think this is going to hurt Frank's ability to gain employment elsewhere, he may end up at Utah.
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I also think Frank will be fine career wise.JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑December 15th, 2020, 9:18 amyou are a nuts if you think this is going to hurt Frank's ability to gain employment elsewhere, he may end up at Utah.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
Kilani will hire him.
The question is how it affects his trajectory toward a Head Coaching job. That would appear to be his goal.
The question is how it affects his trajectory toward a Head Coaching job. That would appear to be his goal.
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Re: What Frank should have said Friday evening
Head coach jobs are essential "at will" jobs. If your reputation becomes one of someone who will sabotage a program if things don't go your way I think that would seriously reduce the pool of universities willing to give you a chance.
It's the same logic that it is rarely wise to burn bridges when a job comes to an end - you don't know what the future holds, and when the reputation you build in those "bad" moments might either rescue you or doom you.
Obviously I'm not a university president, or an athletic director, so my opinion is just that - an opinion. But I can't believe Frank's statement helped his future employability. It may have helped his case in his future lawsuit by sending out "talking points" to future witnesses however.
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It's the same logic that it is rarely wise to burn bridges when a job comes to an end - you don't know what the future holds, and when the reputation you build in those "bad" moments might either rescue you or doom you.
Obviously I'm not a university president, or an athletic director, so my opinion is just that - an opinion. But I can't believe Frank's statement helped his future employability. It may have helped his case in his future lawsuit by sending out "talking points" to future witnesses however.
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