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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by aggies22 » December 21st, 2020, 4:04 pm

mcaggie1 wrote:
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No on Bonner from Arkansas State.
Meaning he is not coming, or you don’t want him?
I would pass.



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by AggieUprising50 » December 21st, 2020, 4:08 pm

GeoAg wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 2:23 pm
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GeoAg wrote:
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Sorry guys, I think we need a starting QB in the worst way.
I agree. Peasley has some strengths an makes some great throws. He is no where near consistent enough to be the starter to a good team. We can hope he improves, but hope isn't a plan. We need to bring in people at QB more than any other position on the team IMO.
WR is a bigger concern than QB. Especially with Thompkins gone
WR is a concern, but it won't matter how good they are if the ball isn't thrown anywhere near them. We could have NFL caliber WRs all over the field right now and not move the ball consistently because we are so poor at QB. You all are overvaluing what Peasley brings because he is here already. He has a lot to prove to me about being consistent with his throwing ability before I will be comfortable with him. He looked great against UNM. He looked horrible in every other appearance with the exception of the first drive against AFA. These were cases of not getting the ball out and not getting it near the open receiver when it did come out. He has potential, but not enough to bank on. In Jordan Love's first games you could see the accuracy that he brought. I have seen nothing close to that from Peasley.
Am I overvaluing Peasley or are you undervaluing him? We both agree he's not consistent. What I'm arguing is that with the right coaching, right system, better protection, and weapons he'll develop that consistency were looking for.

As for Jordan Love's freshmen year, he had a great game against UNLV, but he looked average against every other team, with the exception of Wyoming where he looked BAD (3 int's). However, he had the potential to be great and the coaches stuck with him and helped him develop into a first round QB.

Now I'm not saying that Peasley is going to be the next J-Love or even an NFL qb, but I do think he has potential to be a top 3 qb in the conference and help us win. But just like how we needed to give Jordan time to develop, we also need to give Andrew time to develop as well. We also need to focus on surrounding him with a good supporting cast and give him the best chance to succeed. And if I'm wrong then we replace him, and I'll admit I was wrong, but at least the next guy will have a better chance to succeed as well.

If we keep hyper focusing on the quarterback and not the real issues of the offense, we are going to keep having the same results no matter who's under center.



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by Roy McAvoy » December 21st, 2020, 4:20 pm

Utah has Cam Rising waiting in the wings (a 4 star transfer from Texas), and yet they bring in Charlie Brewer from Baylor that has 40 career starts, and also Ja'quinden Jackson, a former big time recruit that's another Texas transfer.

Yet, we're worried about bringing someone else in on top of Andrew Peasley & Cooper Legas? :headscratch:
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by GoldcoastAggie » December 21st, 2020, 4:23 pm

Peasley has some serious accuracy concerns. He missed throws by a mile. That has to be a concern. Accuracy doesn't just develop that quickly with a new coach.
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by 2004AG » December 21st, 2020, 4:52 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 4:20 pm
Utah has Cam Rising waiting in the wings (a 4 star transfer from Texas), and yet they bring in Charlie Brewer from Baylor that has 40 career starts, and also Ja'quinden Jackson, a former big time recruit that's another Texas transfer.

Yet, we're worried about bringing someone else in on top of Andrew Peasley & Cooper Legas? :headscratch:
Why would so many QB's join them at once? That seems really odd.

:headscratch: is right



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by Yossarian » December 21st, 2020, 5:14 pm

2004AG wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 4:52 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 4:20 pm
Utah has Cam Rising waiting in the wings (a 4 star transfer from Texas), and yet they bring in Charlie Brewer from Baylor that has 40 career starts, and also Ja'quinden Jackson, a former big time recruit that's another Texas transfer.

Yet, we're worried about bringing someone else in on top of Andrew Peasley & Cooper Legas? :headscratch:
Why would so many QB's join them at once? That seems really odd.

:headscratch: is right
They have seen how well Utah develops quarterbacks and gets them NFL-ready. Why would a QB not want to be part of that?



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by aggies22 » December 21st, 2020, 5:18 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 4:20 pm
Utah has Cam Rising waiting in the wings (a 4 star transfer from Texas), and yet they bring in Charlie Brewer from Baylor that has 40 career starts, and also Ja'quinden Jackson, a former big time recruit that's another Texas transfer.

Yet, we're worried about bringing someone else in on top of Andrew Peasley & Cooper Legas? :headscratch:
I couldn't agree more my Aggie brother.



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by aggies22 » December 21st, 2020, 5:20 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 4:20 pm
Utah has Cam Rising waiting in the wings (a 4 star transfer from Texas), and yet they bring in Charlie Brewer from Baylor that has 40 career starts, and also Ja'quinden Jackson, a former big time recruit that's another Texas transfer.

Yet, we're worried about bringing someone else in on top of Andrew Peasley & Cooper Legas? :headscratch:
They bring in Brewer to compete directly with Rising and Jackson was brought in to be developed. It sounds like a decent plan to me.



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by BLUERUFiO » December 21st, 2020, 5:22 pm

Yup, I'm all for competition and AS MANY talented players as possible.


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What's our QB Situation

Post by AGGIEinIOWA » December 21st, 2020, 6:02 pm

aggies22 wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 4:20 pm
Utah has Cam Rising waiting in the wings (a 4 star transfer from Texas), and yet they bring in Charlie Brewer from Baylor that has 40 career starts, and also Ja'quinden Jackson, a former big time recruit that's another Texas transfer.

Yet, we're worried about bringing someone else in on top of Andrew Peasley & Cooper Legas? :headscratch:
They bring in Brewer to compete directly with Rising and Jackson was brought in to be developed. It sounds like a decent plan to me.
What about Peter Costelli? He is a 4-star qb they signed as well. They are pretty stacked. Even their walk on 7th stringer Cooper Justice is a decent 3 star prospect. I don’t know how with their poor qb history that they can get all these dudes to sign.
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by brownjeans » December 21st, 2020, 6:06 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 4:20 pm
Utah has Cam Rising waiting in the wings (a 4 star transfer from Texas), and yet they bring in Charlie Brewer from Baylor that has 40 career starts, and also Ja'quinden Jackson, a former big time recruit that's another Texas transfer.

Yet, we're worried about bringing someone else in on top of Andrew Peasley & Cooper Legas? :headscratch:
Are you wishing we did things with QBs like Utah does? :shock:

I will never do that. If my son was a good HS QB and Utah came recruiting him, I'd try my best to steer him nearly anywhere else. Utah is not a program to model when it comes to QBs.

Having said that - if we can get a transfer who was a former starter, was good as a starter, and has the talent and leadership to get the team's support, bring him.
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by Sl7vk » December 21st, 2020, 6:08 pm

QB in general is an increasingly stacked position in FBS as every team only has starting slot, with more and more good prospects coming out of HS.
We should be an appealing landing spot for a lot of guys.
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by AGGIEinIOWA » December 21st, 2020, 7:23 pm

UCF backup QB Darriel Mack is in the portal. Not sure how good he is but I’m sure our new OC Anthony Tucker would
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by aggies22 » December 21st, 2020, 7:25 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 6:08 pm
QB in general is an increasingly stacked position in FBS as every team only has starting slot, with more and more good prospects coming out of HS.
We should be an appealing landing spot for a lot of guys.
We are an appealing landing spot indeed.



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by aggies22 » December 21st, 2020, 7:26 pm

AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 6:02 pm
aggies22 wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 4:20 pm
Utah has Cam Rising waiting in the wings (a 4 star transfer from Texas), and yet they bring in Charlie Brewer from Baylor that has 40 career starts, and also Ja'quinden Jackson, a former big time recruit that's another Texas transfer.

Yet, we're worried about bringing someone else in on top of Andrew Peasley & Cooper Legas? :headscratch:
They bring in Brewer to compete directly with Rising and Jackson was brought in to be developed. It sounds like a decent plan to me.
What about Peter Costelli? He is a 4-star qb they signed as well. They are pretty stacked. Even their walk on 7th stringer Cooper Justice is a decent 3 star prospect. I don’t know how with their poor qb history that they can get all these dudes to sign.
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by aggies22 » December 21st, 2020, 7:28 pm

AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:23 pm
UCF backup QB Darriel Mack is in the portal. Not sure how good he is but I’m sure our new OC Anthony Tucker would
I could actually see this happening.



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by Blitz79 » December 21st, 2020, 9:00 pm

Bring in the best available.
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by Notatrueaggie » December 21st, 2020, 9:13 pm

aggies22 wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:28 pm
AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:23 pm
UCF backup QB Darriel Mack is in the portal. Not sure how good he is but I’m sure our new OC Anthony Tucker would
I could actually see this happening.
I don’t want to be a debbie downer here, but do we like him? I remember watching a couple ucf games when milton was injured and i wasn’t that impressed. Kind of reminds me of shelley. But it’s been a almost two years since that so idk



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by slcagg » December 21st, 2020, 9:19 pm

aggies22 wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:28 pm
AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:23 pm
UCF backup QB Darriel Mack is in the portal. Not sure how good he is but I’m sure our new OC Anthony Tucker would
I could actually see this happening.
Yeah so we don’t call the guy in Seattle for this guy. If that is the case I’m gonna be very disappointed.



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by Slim80 » December 21st, 2020, 9:25 pm

Blitz79 wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 9:00 pm
Bring in the best available.
I second this. Don’t over think this. Bring in the best you can get. Period.
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by ususports » December 21st, 2020, 9:31 pm

slcagg wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 9:19 pm
aggies22 wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:28 pm
AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:23 pm
UCF backup QB Darriel Mack is in the portal. Not sure how good he is but I’m sure our new OC Anthony Tucker would
I could actually see this happening.
Yeah so we don’t call the guy in Seattle for this guy. If that is the case I’m gonna be very disappointed.
Apparently, our new coaching staff thinks Peasley is better than the 4 star QB from Washington.



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by GameFAQSAggie » December 21st, 2020, 10:20 pm

ususports wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 9:31 pm
slcagg wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 9:19 pm
aggies22 wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:28 pm
AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:23 pm
UCF backup QB Darriel Mack is in the portal. Not sure how good he is but I’m sure our new OC Anthony Tucker would
I could actually see this happening.
Yeah so we don’t call the guy in Seattle for this guy. If that is the case I’m gonna be very disappointed.
Apparently, our new coaching staff thinks Peasley is better than the 4 star QB from Washington.
Our 2006 team had a 4 star QB who Arizona State beat out USC for, then was fourth string on THAT team behind true freshman Riley Nelson, Leon Jackson and Bryan Black.



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by Donman » December 21st, 2020, 11:00 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote:
ususports wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 9:31 pm
slcagg wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 9:19 pm
aggies22 wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:28 pm
AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
December 21st, 2020, 7:23 pm
UCF backup QB Darriel Mack is in the portal. Not sure how good he is but I’m sure our new OC Anthony Tucker would
I could actually see this happening.
Yeah so we don’t call the guy in Seattle for this guy. If that is the case I’m gonna be very disappointed.
Apparently, our new coaching staff thinks Peasley is better than the 4 star QB from Washington.
Our 2006 team had a 4 star QB who Arizona State beat out USC for, then was fourth string on THAT team behind true freshman Riley Nelson, Leon Jackson and Bryan Black.
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by ineptimusprime » December 21st, 2020, 11:46 pm

Have you watched a lot of Bonner, 22? Curious why you are a “no” on him? Stats seem pretty good, and seems like a guy with a chip on his shoulder (i.e., some Aggie DNA). In the few highlights I’ve seen, he throws a decent ball.

I mean, you can call me crazy, but I’d be much more excited adding a proven D1 QB starter to our QB room than some Jake Heaps empty calorie “star” guy that was buried on the depth chart at a middle of the road P5 school. I mean, how often do you hear about a guy buried on the depth chart at a P5 transferring down and just killing it a G5? I can’t think of any examples, though I’m sure there are a few.



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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by Aglicious » December 22nd, 2020, 12:52 am

I've gone back and watched every A-State game I could find from this season and I do think Bonner would be an upgrade over what we curently have but that is not saying much. He looks fairly accurate and gets the ball out quick but he doesn't jump out as someone that a defense needs to game plan against. I would sum up his tape as a QB that is a game manager with serviceable skills. What does jump out on tape is that he had a collection of WR's that would be considered elite to ours (and most other teams) which made both of their QBs look better than they might be.

I think Bonner would be okay at USU if he were surrounded by a lot of talent at the skill positions. Currently we dont have that so we may require a QB that can make things happen on his own sometimes and shoulder a little more than simply managing the game.



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Re: What's our OL/DL Situation

Post by El Sapo » December 22nd, 2020, 10:24 am

Once we have a functional OL and a DL who can break down the pocket? Our QB will look really good, and our coach will look really smart.

We've had discussions about recruiting DL. Seems like someone said GA felt like those big guys are hard to get, so we settled on LB's.

That's a mistake and it shows


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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by sammyhagar » December 22nd, 2020, 11:38 am

It all starts up front, if you don't have the O line, you don't have a QB or receivers.
Timing is off, routes get cut short, et al.
I wont judge Peas until the line can do a bit more than they did this year.
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by El Sapo » December 22nd, 2020, 4:05 pm

sammyhagar wrote:
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It all starts up front, if you don't have the O line, you don't have a QB or receivers.
Timing is off, routes get cut short, et al.
I wont judge Peas until the line can do a bit more than they did this year.
And a defense that can hold a team to < 24 points


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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by afausu » December 22nd, 2020, 7:12 pm

I get supporting “our guy”, but the truth is Peasely is just another decent athlete trying to be a quarterback. We need a quarterback that is a quarterback. You can’t blame everything he does poorly on the other positions all the time-poor receivers, poor line, poor coaches, blah, blah, blah. Does he have any responsibility on him to be able to throw to receivers and be somewhat close? He could be an excellent wildcat type guy, though.
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Re: What's our QB Situation

Post by ineptimusprime » December 22nd, 2020, 8:38 pm

afausu wrote:
December 22nd, 2020, 7:12 pm
I get supporting “our guy”, but the truth is Peasely is just another decent athlete trying to be a quarterback. We need a quarterback that is a quarterback. You can’t blame everything he does poorly on the other positions all the time-poor receivers, poor line, poor coaches, blah, blah, blah. Does he have any responsibility on him to be able to throw to receivers and be somewhat close? He could be an excellent wildcat type guy, though.
Peasley is definitely a QB, but a QB with accuracy issues. He is nowhere near a Shelley or Myers bad in the sense that he has good pocket awareness and QB instincts.



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