Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

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Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by GameFAQSAggie » January 9th, 2021, 1:57 pm

At first thought, getting guys to transfer from PAC 12 Utah does sound more appealing than getting guys from Sun Belt Arkansas State. BUT, I do think getting the guys we have been able to cherry pick from Arkansas State so far, who have proven themselves in games, even against Sun Belt competition, sounds better than guys from Utah that just want to come here cause they won't see the field at Utah. For one thing, it at least shows work ethic that someone was able to beat out other teammates for playing time, something that isn't shown by just being on a P5 team.

Repp and Mariner turned out be good, but I do think we could have landed just as good of JC kids who we would get for at least two years instead of one. It was a valid concern that GA 2.0 was eventually going to run out of Utah reject Band-aids, and BA is similarly going to run out of top guys to cherry pick from ASU(though he pretty much already has)

I do think getting a Texas transfer sounds good, and there are a few differences between that and Utah, in that Texas gets higher caliber kids than even Utah, and a kid not seeing the field as a sophomore is different than kids that still don't see the field as an upper classman.



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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by AggieUprising50 » January 13th, 2021, 11:33 am

I’ll be honest, other than Jason Shelly I’ve been very happy with all the Utah transfers. I wouldn’t mind landing Pita Tonga either. He’d fill a huge gap on the D-line.

I guess my opinion is that two things can be true at once. The people that Coach A are bringing in are awesome and having a 80% success rate for Utah “rejects” is great for our program as well.
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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by Roy McAvoy » January 13th, 2021, 11:43 am

Any one of these Utah transfers would be huge additions to our team:

Pita Tonga, DT
Jaylen Dixon, WR
Jordan Wilmore, RB
Devin Brumfield, RB
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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by aggies22 » January 13th, 2021, 11:47 am

Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:43 am
Any one of these Utah transfers would be huge additions to our team:

Pita Tonga, DT
Jaylen Dixon, WR
Jordan Wilmore, RB
Devin Brumfield, RB
Jaylen Dixon was Jason Shelly's best friend so no shot in hell. Honestly, I imagine this staff will try and distance itself from taking transfer from Utah. At least for awhile.
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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » January 13th, 2021, 11:48 am

Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:43 am
Any one of these Utah transfers would be huge additions to our team:

Pita Tonga, DT
Jaylen Dixon, WR
Jordan Wilmore, RB
Devin Brumfield, RB
I'd take Jaylen Waddle from Alabama as a transfer too.

And yes it doesn't matter the school, it matters the player. Fans on here have used Jason Shelley as an avatar for any player from the U of U. It is as if people forget Mariner came here and had 1000 yards receiving and 10 touchdowns just a season before.



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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by GameFAQSAggie » January 13th, 2021, 11:49 am

aggies22 wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:47 am
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:43 am
Any one of these Utah transfers would be huge additions to our team:

Pita Tonga, DT
Jaylen Dixon, WR
Jordan Wilmore, RB
Devin Brumfield, RB
Jaylen Dixon was Jason Shelly's best friend so no shot in hell. Honestly, I imagine this staff will try and distance itself from taking transfer from Utah. At least for awhile.
Even if we want to distance from Utah transfers, I would make an exception for defensive tackles as Utah is notorious for being loaded there.



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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by aggies22 » January 13th, 2021, 11:54 am

GameFAQSAggie wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:49 am
aggies22 wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:47 am
Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 11:43 am
Any one of these Utah transfers would be huge additions to our team:

Pita Tonga, DT
Jaylen Dixon, WR
Jordan Wilmore, RB
Devin Brumfield, RB
Jaylen Dixon was Jason Shelly's best friend so no shot in hell. Honestly, I imagine this staff will try and distance itself from taking transfer from Utah. At least for awhile.
Even if we want to distance from Utah transfers, I would make an exception for defensive tackles as Utah is notorious for being loaded there.
If it were up to me. I'd take Pita Tonga and Jordan Wilmore.
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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by Aggie84025 » January 13th, 2021, 12:00 pm

Aside from the Shelley disaster the rest of the Utah transfers were great. We can't lump in the school they came from. I would take Mariner and Repp players in a heartbeat.
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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by AGGIEinIOWA » January 13th, 2021, 12:13 pm

I’m a big fan of Nick Heninger as well! Anyone heard if he is sticking around?



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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by MWCFAN12 » January 14th, 2021, 9:33 am

GameFAQSAggie wrote:
January 9th, 2021, 1:57 pm
At first thought, getting guys to transfer from PAC 12 Utah does sound more appealing than getting guys from Sun Belt Arkansas State. BUT, I do think getting the guys we have been able to cherry pick from Arkansas State so far, who have proven themselves in games, even against Sun Belt competition, sounds better than guys from Utah that just want to come here cause they won't see the field at Utah. For one thing, it at least shows work ethic that someone was able to beat out other teammates for playing time, something that isn't shown by just being on a P5 team.

Repp and Mariner turned out be good, but I do think we could have landed just as good of JC kids who we would get for at least two years instead of one. It was a valid concern that GA 2.0 was eventually going to run out of Utah reject Band-aids, and BA is similarly going to run out of top guys to cherry pick from ASU(though he pretty much already has)

I do think getting a Texas transfer sounds good, and there are a few differences between that and Utah, in that Texas gets higher caliber kids than even Utah, and a kid not seeing the field as a sophomore is different than kids that still don't see the field as an upper classman.
I don't think the whole P5 vs G5 is that big of a deal. The lowest rated QB in the Transfer Portal is Bailey Zappe. I promise you he will put up stupid numbers next year and enter the draft. He was at Houston Baptist and in 4 games vs FBS this year threw for 1800 yards and 15 TD's.

I would take that kid all day long over 95% of the QB's in the portal.



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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by 3rdGenAggie » January 14th, 2021, 9:46 am

AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 12:13 pm
I’m a big fan of Nick Heninger as well! Anyone heard if he is sticking around?
I can't imagine he is, as it appears he was the ring leader (for good or bad, I'm not making a judgement here) in the Maile/Cockett fiasco.

I would think he doesn't want to stay, but who knows. I hope he does. He's a good player.


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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by AggieUprising50 » January 14th, 2021, 9:50 am

3rdGenAggie wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 9:46 am
AGGIEinIOWA wrote:
January 13th, 2021, 12:13 pm
I’m a big fan of Nick Heninger as well! Anyone heard if he is sticking around?
I can't imagine he is, as it appears he was the ring leader (for good or bad, I'm not making a judgement here) in the Maile/Cockett fiasco.

I would think he doesn't want to stay, but who knows. I hope he does. He's a good player.
I don’t think that will affect his decision to come back or to move on.

I think the biggest determining factor whether he stays or goes will be if he finishes school or not.



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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by GameFAQSAggie » January 15th, 2021, 10:33 am

MWCFAN12 wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 9:33 am
The lowest rated QB in the Transfer Portal is Bailey Zappe. I promise you he will put up stupid numbers next year and enter the draft. He was at Houston Baptist and in 4 games vs FBS this year threw for 1800 yards and 15 TD's.
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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by Roy McAvoy » January 16th, 2021, 4:07 pm

Fresno is going to be legit next season. Washington transfer at QB with Ty Jones in at WR and now adding Wilmore as their RB.

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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » January 16th, 2021, 7:48 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 16th, 2021, 4:07 pm
Fresno is going to be legit next season. Washington transfer at QB with Ty Jones in at WR and now adding Wilmore as their RB.

Glad they are off our schedule.



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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by Zaggie07 » January 17th, 2021, 10:34 am

Roy McAvoy wrote:Fresno is going to be legit next season. Washington transfer at QB with Ty Jones in at WR and now adding Wilmore as their RB.

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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by Ahbye » January 17th, 2021, 2:50 pm

MWCFAN12 wrote:
January 14th, 2021, 9:33 am
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
January 9th, 2021, 1:57 pm
At first thought, getting guys to transfer from PAC 12 Utah does sound more appealing than getting guys from Sun Belt Arkansas State. BUT, I do think getting the guys we have been able to cherry pick from Arkansas State so far, who have proven themselves in games, even against Sun Belt competition, sounds better than guys from Utah that just want to come here cause they won't see the field at Utah. For one thing, it at least shows work ethic that someone was able to beat out other teammates for playing time, something that isn't shown by just being on a P5 team.

Repp and Mariner turned out be good, but I do think we could have landed just as good of JC kids who we would get for at least two years instead of one. It was a valid concern that GA 2.0 was eventually going to run out of Utah reject Band-aids, and BA is similarly going to run out of top guys to cherry pick from ASU(though he pretty much already has)

I do think getting a Texas transfer sounds good, and there are a few differences between that and Utah, in that Texas gets higher caliber kids than even Utah, and a kid not seeing the field as a sophomore is different than kids that still don't see the field as an upper classman.
I don't think the whole P5 vs G5 is that big of a deal. The lowest rated QB in the Transfer Portal is Bailey Zappe. I promise you he will put up stupid numbers next year and enter the draft. He was at Houston Baptist and in 4 games vs FBS this year threw for 1800 yards and 15 TD's.

I would take that kid all day long over 95% of the QB's in the portal.
You're right, it's not that there's a talent gap, it's a depth gap. That's why most G5s hang with p5s until the second half in slot of games. Depth is what kills.
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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by Roy McAvoy » January 18th, 2021, 7:31 pm

I wonder how hard (if at all) we went after Pita Tonga. I also wonder if the Andersen/Maile thing basically ruined any chance there to begin with anyways. I know he was looking at transferring to USU last year but ended up not.




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Re: Arkansas State starters > Utah rejects

Post by aggies22 » January 18th, 2021, 9:09 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
January 18th, 2021, 7:31 pm
I wonder how hard (if at all) we went after Pita Tonga. I also wonder if the Andersen/Maile thing basically ruined any chance there to begin with anyways. I know he was looking at transferring to USU last year but ended up not.

The new staff did NOT contact Pita Tonga.



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