Wells P5 Coaches Ranking

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » May 20th, 2021, 11:26 pm

Wells was ranked 60 out of 65 among P5 coaches by CBS Sports. Not great, but he's making a ton of money, so things could be worse for him.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ked-65-26/

Post by **aggies22** » May 21st, 2021, 10:40 am

I like Matt. I felt like he did a good job here. But this isn't a huge surprise to me.

GoldcoastAggie · Post by **GoldcoastAggie** » May 21st, 2021, 11:09 am

It hurts to Aranda so low on that list. I've always cheered for him.

AggieFirefighter · Post by **AggieFirefighter** » May 21st, 2021, 11:20 am

A different article that pretty much says the same.

https://wreckemred.com/2021/05/20/texas ... aches/amp/

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » May 21st, 2021, 12:40 pm

He's a good guy, I remember him fondly when I knew him back in the day, I wish him all the best and all of the success in the world.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » May 21st, 2021, 12:45 pm

Wells was a mid-level MWC coach. In P5, he's in trouble.
Recruiting is not his strength, and then his game management is terrible. In one score games he almost always finds a way to blow it.
I'm curious as to where he ends up when TT fires him this year.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » May 21st, 2021, 12:57 pm

He got his payday. Texas Tech is a really difficult place to win though. Tubberville won in the SEC and couldn't win there. Kingsbury got an NFL job despite failing there. Maybe one time rumored Aggie coach Graham Harrell will have more success, but I doubt much more.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » May 21st, 2021, 1:31 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
May 21st, 2021, 12:57 pm
He got his payday. Texas Tech is a really difficult place to win though. Tubberville won in the SEC and couldn't win there. Kingsbury got an NFL job despite failing there. Maybe one time rumored Aggie coach Graham Harrell will have more success, but I doubt much more.

I got a question for you or anyone.

1. Is it easier to win Logan vs Lubbock due to competition really?

2. If you were trying to get to a more winnable p5 opportunity would it be better to stay at a mw level school and wait or jump to a hard to win p5 opportunity and hope you win?

3. It probably doesn’t matter either way. If you get $18M you take it.

newhouse9 · Post by **newhouse9** » May 21st, 2021, 2:05 pm

Matt's a good guy. He's stubborn, which hurt him here; but John helped him with that a bit...to me, it's a big leap to P5, and I'm not sure he was quite done cooking here...

AngusAg · Post by **AngusAg** » May 21st, 2021, 9:04 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑
May 21st, 2021, 12:40 pm
He's a good guy, I remember him fondly when I knew him back in the day, I wish him all the best and all of the success in the world.

Agree Vi, I'd love to see him be successful. I was in Lubbock recently. Ahhhh, he's got his work cut out.

Stewie Griffin · Post by **Stewie Griffin** » May 25th, 2021, 8:01 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 21st, 2021, 12:45 pm
Wells was a mid-level MWC coach. In P5, he's in trouble.
Recruiting is not his strength, and then his game management is terrible. In one score games he almost always finds a way to blow it.
I'm curious as to where he ends up when TT fires him this year.

The loudest boos, come from the cheapest seats.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » May 25th, 2021, 9:37 pm

Stewie Griffin wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2021, 8:01 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 21st, 2021, 12:45 pm
Wells was a mid-level MWC coach. In P5, he's in trouble.
Recruiting is not his strength, and then his game management is terrible. In one score games he almost always finds a way to blow it.
I'm curious as to where he ends up when TT fires him this year.
The loudest boos, come from the cheapest seats.

I have club seats.

SaintAggie · Post by **SaintAggie** » May 26th, 2021, 7:13 am

Stewie Griffin wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2021, 8:01 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 21st, 2021, 12:45 pm
Wells was a mid-level MWC coach. In P5, he's in trouble.
Recruiting is not his strength, and then his game management is terrible. In one score games he almost always finds a way to blow it.
I'm curious as to where he ends up when TT fires him this year.
The loudest boos, come from the cheapest seats.

What are you saying? What did the post say that was wrong? A level headed criticism of an ex coach makes you a "cheap seat fan"? Odd.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » May 26th, 2021, 9:07 am

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2021, 9:37 pm

Stewie Griffin wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2021, 8:01 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 21st, 2021, 12:45 pm
Wells was a mid-level MWC coach. In P5, he's in trouble.
Recruiting is not his strength, and then his game management is terrible. In one score games he almost always finds a way to blow it.
I'm curious as to where he ends up when TT fires him this year.
The loudest boos, come from the cheapest seats.
I have club seats.

Probably the cheapest ones tho, like all the way over at the 20 yard line.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » May 26th, 2021, 10:48 am

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 9:07 am

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2021, 9:37 pm

Stewie Griffin wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2021, 8:01 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 21st, 2021, 12:45 pm
Wells was a mid-level MWC coach. In P5, he's in trouble.
Recruiting is not his strength, and then his game management is terrible. In one score games he almost always finds a way to blow it.
I'm curious as to where he ends up when TT fires him this year.
The loudest boos, come from the cheapest seats.
I have club seats.
Probably the cheapest ones tho, like all the way over at the 20 yard line.

That is correct....

rAggie · Post by **rAggie** » May 26th, 2021, 1:48 pm

Matt is celebrating his low ranking in Cache Valley this week. He was golfing at the Country Club yesterday with Blake and is going to the Jazz game tonight.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » May 26th, 2021, 2:54 pm

rAggie wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 1:48 pm
Matt is celebrating his low ranking in Cache Valley this week. He was golfing at the Country Club yesterday with Blake and is going to the Jazz game tonight.

15M provides you with a lot of opportunities to celebrate. You really don't need a reason at that point.

MWCFAN12 · Post by **MWCFAN12** » May 26th, 2021, 3:03 pm

I don't think Matt was a great coach or even a good one. But I would take Matt over several other guys on that list above him.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » May 26th, 2021, 5:54 pm

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 3:03 pm
I don't think Matt was a great coach or even a good one. But I would take Matt over several other guys on that list above him.

You can't argue with success, and Matt had more success at USU than he had failure. So there is that...

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » May 26th, 2021, 7:21 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 5:54 pm

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 3:03 pm
I don't think Matt was a great coach or even a good one. But I would take Matt over several other guys on that list above him.
You can't argue with success, and Matt had more success at USU than he had failure. So there is that...

Yep. Offensive Coordinator for the great 2012 season and then three great seasons as HC. Hard to argue against him when no other coach in the past 40 years has had his success.

Aggieiester · Post by **Aggieiester** » May 26th, 2021, 8:17 pm

Really with the exception from about the middle of the 2015 season to the middle of the 2017 season we were pretty damn good under Wells.

stang · Post by **stang** » May 26th, 2021, 9:21 pm

Honest question: where does Matt Wells rank on the all-time USU coaching list? It's certainly not outside the top 5. He's an alumni who was quite successful here as a coach, he represented the university with pure class, and he left in just about the best way possible. So why do so many board members feel the need to constantly take shots at him?

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » May 26th, 2021, 9:39 pm

stang wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 9:21 pm
Honest question: where does Matt Wells rank on the all-time USU coaching list? It's certainly not outside the top 5. He's an alumni who was quite successful here as a coach, he represented the university with pure class, and he left in just about the best way possible. So why do so many board members feel the need to constantly take shots at him?

100% agree. He seems like a good guy.

ususports · Post by **ususports** » May 26th, 2021, 9:43 pm

stang wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 9:21 pm
Honest question: where does Matt Wells rank on the all-time USU coaching list? It's certainly not outside the top 5. He's an alumni who was quite successful here as a coach, he represented the university with pure class, and he left in just about the best way possible. So why do so many board members feel the need to constantly take shots at him?

It was obvious in the 2018 season, Matt was riding the coattails of Gary Andersen’s recruits, so let’s not be giving him too much credit.

LKGates · Post by **LKGates** » May 27th, 2021, 12:38 am

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 9:07 am

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2021, 9:37 pm

Stewie Griffin wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2021, 8:01 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 21st, 2021, 12:45 pm
Wells was a mid-level MWC coach. In P5, he's in trouble.
Recruiting is not his strength, and then his game management is terrible. In one score games he almost always finds a way to blow it.
I'm curious as to where he ends up when TT fires him this year.
The loudest boos, come from the cheapest seats.
I have club seats.
Probably the cheapest ones tho, like all the way over at the 20 yard line.

Hey now!

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » May 27th, 2021, 7:59 am

stang wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 9:21 pm
Honest question: where does Matt Wells rank on the all-time USU coaching list? It's certainly not outside the top 5. He's an alumni who was quite successful here as a coach, he represented the university with pure class, and he left in just about the best way possible. So why do so many board members feel the need to constantly take shots at him?

Well, here's the coaches that I'd put ahead of Wells in a reverse chronological order.

Dick Romney
Chuck Mills
Gary Andersen 1.0

So yes, Matt Wells is certainly within the top 5. The list of USU head football coaches is not very illustrious though if we are being honest.

USUaggie · Post by **USUaggie** » May 27th, 2021, 9:06 am

John Ralston is definitely top 5, and Phil Kruger could be argued.

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » May 27th, 2021, 10:10 am

USUaggie wrote: ↑
May 27th, 2021, 9:06 am
John Ralston is definitely top 5, and Phil Kruger could be argued.

Knap deserves a mention.

bill.george · Post by **bill.george** » May 27th, 2021, 1:00 pm

I would make a case for Chuck Mills.

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Stewie Griffin · Post by **Stewie Griffin** » May 27th, 2021, 4:36 pm

SaintAggie wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 7:13 am

Stewie Griffin wrote: ↑
May 25th, 2021, 8:01 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 21st, 2021, 12:45 pm
Wells was a mid-level MWC coach. In P5, he's in trouble.
Recruiting is not his strength, and then his game management is terrible. In one score games he almost always finds a way to blow it.
I'm curious as to where he ends up when TT fires him this year.
The loudest boos, come from the cheapest seats.
What are you saying? What did the post say that was wrong? A level headed criticism of an ex coach makes you a "cheap seat fan"? Odd.

It just wasn't very "saintly"

browntown · Post by **browntown** » May 27th, 2021, 5:01 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 9:39 pm

stang wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 9:21 pm
Honest question: where does Matt Wells rank on the all-time USU coaching list? It's certainly not outside the top 5. He's an alumni who was quite successful here as a coach, he represented the university with pure class, and he left in just about the best way possible. So why do so many board members feel the need to constantly take shots at him?
100% agree. He seems like a good guy.

^^ This is my feeling too. I thought Wells was a good guy, just not charismatic to the public/media, which not all people are (myself included).

I thought he’d have struggles at the P5 coaching level but I do hope he’s successful in his career and I’m glad he was our coach here and got some awesome wins (2014 BYU and 2015 Boise in particular).

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » June 4th, 2021, 8:21 am

Wells brought us 2 wins in Provo right? I'll always appreciate that. Having said that I originally estimated he'd have a 3 year stint in Lubbock and that's exactly what I think will play out. He can fall asleep at night on a pillow filled with money.

ChicagoAggie · Post by **ChicagoAggie** » June 4th, 2021, 2:29 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
May 27th, 2021, 7:59 am

stang wrote: ↑
May 26th, 2021, 9:21 pm
Honest question: where does Matt Wells rank on the all-time USU coaching list? It's certainly not outside the top 5. He's an alumni who was quite successful here as a coach, he represented the university with pure class, and he left in just about the best way possible. So why do so many board members feel the need to constantly take shots at him?
Well, here's the coaches that I'd put ahead of Wells in a reverse chronological order.

Dick Romney
Chuck Mills
Gary Andersen 1.0

So yes, Matt Wells is certainly within the top 5. The list of USU head football coaches is not very illustrious though if we are being honest.

Bruce Snyder - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Snyder

John L Smith had some really competitive teams at Utah State (especially with the lack of resources), and did really well at Louisville - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Smith

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