Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 18th, 2021, 9:41 pm

It seems there were a lot of no calls. How did the overturn the fumble in the first quarter??

That was probably a forward pitch, but there is NO way they saw irrefutable evidence on the replay, the camera angle wasn't there.

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑

September 18th, 2021, 10:10 pm

And did anyone else notice the targeting on Skarver's second kickoff return? The announcers we're praising it as a hard hit, but I swear it was helmet to helmet, and leaving with the helmet.

Square in the chest.

Ahbye wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 11:24 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 18th, 2021, 9:50 pm

Ahbye wrote: ↑

September 18th, 2021, 9:48 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 18th, 2021, 9:41 pm

It seems there were a lot of no calls. How did the overturn the fumble in the first quarter??

They reviewed and said it was an incomplete forward pass.

I understand but there was not clear evidence even the announcers said there wasn’t enough to overturn it.

I didn't agree with the overturned call either.

It was terrible, the call was a fumble and they showed no undisputed video to refute it. Terrible call in my opinion.

TheAKAggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:22 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 18th, 2021, 9:41 pm

It seems there were a lot of no calls. How did the overturn the fumble in the first quarter??

That was probably a forward pitch, but there is NO way they saw irrefutable evidence on the replay, the camera angle wasn't there.

AF fans are complaining about the 4th down spot and saying his knee was not down.
I thought that was clear as day and they gave him a better spot than he should have got.

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

travelingagg wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:53 pm

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

That is AFA at their finest. Year in and year out they dive at opposing lineman’s legs to make up for their lack of size. I’m glad we got through the game without losing too many to injuries.

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:49 pm

TheAKAggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:22 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 18th, 2021, 9:41 pm

It seems there were a lot of no calls. How did the overturn the fumble in the first quarter??

That was probably a forward pitch, but there is NO way they saw irrefutable evidence on the replay, the camera angle wasn't there.

AF fans are complaining about the 4th down spot and saying his knee was not down.
I thought that was clear as day and they gave him a better spot than he should have got.

They confirmed the ruling instead of just letting it stand. Can't ask for much more than that.

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:49 pm

TheAKAggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:22 pm

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 18th, 2021, 9:41 pm

It seems there were a lot of no calls. How did the overturn the fumble in the first quarter??

That was probably a forward pitch, but there is NO way they saw irrefutable evidence on the replay, the camera angle wasn't there.

AF fans are complaining about the 4th down spot and saying his knee was not down.
I thought that was clear as day and they gave him a better spot than he should have got.

It was cleas as day in fact it should have been short by another foot.

I hated during the victory formation, their D-line was still taking cheap shots at our center's legs. It's like loose with some dignity!

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 5:11 pm

I hated during the victory formation, their D-line was still taking cheap shots at our center's legs. It's like loose with some dignity!

I was screaming at the screen, it was a pure bush league move. Completely classless, it all starts with the man in charge of their program.

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 5:11 pm

I hated during the victory formation, their D-line was still taking cheap shots at our center's legs. It's like loose with some dignity!

They are trash. Dirtiest team I've seen in awhile.

travelingagg wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:53 pm

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

Its legal as long as you don't double team high-low, AFA has done it for 30 years, its a triple option staple, and its a great way to get the D-lineman to back off when you are getting beat. Not sure what the point is here.

hickaggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm

travelingagg wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:53 pm

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

Its legal as long as you don't double team high-low, AFA has done it for 30 years, its a triple option staple, and its a great way to get the D-lineman to back off when you are getting beat. Not sure what the point is here.

Cause grown a$$ men should block with their head up instead of their d!ck in the dirt.

Just cause it is legal doesn't mean it isn't dirty and cheap

hickaggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm

travelingagg wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:53 pm

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

Its legal as long as you don't double team high-low, AFA has done it for 30 years, its a triple option staple, and its a great way to get the D-lineman to back off when you are getting beat. Not sure what the point is here.

100% correct. This is how triple option offenses block as it greatly slows pursuit.

The reason the academies are the few remaining true, triple option offenses is because of the size requirements, or restrictions actually, required for service. Not much room for a 6'5 320 lb man in a submarine or a fighter jet. They are always undersized across both sides of the line so they rely on the misdirection built into the option offense. When Navy has a decent qb every few years they'll give Notre Dame fits in their annual battle.

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:33 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm

travelingagg wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:53 pm

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

Its legal as long as you don't double team high-low, AFA has done it for 30 years, its a triple option staple, and its a great way to get the D-lineman to back off when you are getting beat. Not sure what the point is here.

Cause grown a$$ men should block with their head up instead of their d!ck in the dirt.

Just cause it is legal doesn't mean it isn't dirty and cheap

This has always been how triple option offenses block. We aren't used to it because only a few teams run that offense anymore. Rewind thirty or forty years and there were dozens of teams running option type of offenses.

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:36 pm

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:33 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm

travelingagg wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:53 pm

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

Its legal as long as you don't double team high-low, AFA has done it for 30 years, its a triple option staple, and its a great way to get the D-lineman to back off when you are getting beat. Not sure what the point is here.

Cause grown a$$ men should block with their head up instead of their d!ck in the dirt.

Just cause it is legal doesn't mean it isn't dirty and cheap

This has always been how triple option offenses block. We aren't used to it because only a few teams run that offense anymore. Rewind thirty or forty years and there were dozens of teams running option type of offenses.

I dont give a Fu how long it has been done. It is 100% BS. And if they are serious about keeping players safe they need to get it out of the game.

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:40 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:36 pm

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:33 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm

travelingagg wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:53 pm

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

Its legal as long as you don't double team high-low, AFA has done it for 30 years, its a triple option staple, and its a great way to get the D-lineman to back off when you are getting beat. Not sure what the point is here.

Cause grown a$$ men should block with their head up instead of their d!ck in the dirt.

Just cause it is legal doesn't mean it isn't dirty and cheap

This has always been how triple option offenses block. We aren't used to it because only a few teams run that offense anymore. Rewind thirty or forty years and there were dozens of teams running option type of offenses.

I dont give a Fu how long it has been done. It is 100% BS. And if they are serious about keeping players safe they need to get it out of the game.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. In fact, I guarantee every team, including USU, uses cut blocks for certain plays such as a designed quick slant where the tackle needs to keep the DE from jumping to tip the ball. Goal line and short yardage running plays are all about getting lower than the defensive line.

As long as the defender isn't already being engaged up high it is legal and it is part of football.

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:49 pm

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:40 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:36 pm

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:33 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm

travelingagg wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:53 pm

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

Its legal as long as you don't double team high-low, AFA has done it for 30 years, its a triple option staple, and its a great way to get the D-lineman to back off when you are getting beat. Not sure what the point is here.

Cause grown a$$ men should block with their head up instead of their d!ck in the dirt.

Just cause it is legal doesn't mean it isn't dirty and cheap

This has always been how triple option offenses block. We aren't used to it because only a few teams run that offense anymore. Rewind thirty or forty years and there were dozens of teams running option type of offenses.

I dont give a Fu how long it has been done. It is 100% BS. And if they are serious about keeping players safe they need to get it out of the game.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. In fact, I guarantee every team, including USU, uses cut blocks for certain plays such as a designed quick slant where the tackle needs to keep the DE from jumping to tip the ball. Goal line and short yardage running plays are all about getting lower than the defensive line.

As long as the defender isn't already being engaged up high it is legal and it is part of football.

I disagree. It is dirty and cheap and should be removed from the game. Just like peel back blocks, defenseless player hits, and QB hits. The game is better without that crap.

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:53 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:49 pm

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:40 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:36 pm

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:33 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm

travelingagg wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:53 pm

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

Its legal as long as you don't double team high-low, AFA has done it for 30 years, its a triple option staple, and its a great way to get the D-lineman to back off when you are getting beat. Not sure what the point is here.

Cause grown a$$ men should block with their head up instead of their d!ck in the dirt.

Just cause it is legal doesn't mean it isn't dirty and cheap

This has always been how triple option offenses block. We aren't used to it because only a few teams run that offense anymore. Rewind thirty or forty years and there were dozens of teams running option type of offenses.

I dont give a Fu how long it has been done. It is 100% BS. And if they are serious about keeping players safe they need to get it out of the game.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. In fact, I guarantee every team, including USU, uses cut blocks for certain plays such as a designed quick slant where the tackle needs to keep the DE from jumping to tip the ball. Goal line and short yardage running plays are all about getting lower than the defensive line.

As long as the defender isn't already being engaged up high it is legal and it is part of football.

I disagree. It is dirty and cheap and should be removed from the game. Just like peel back blocks, defenseless player hits, and QB hits. The game is better without that crap.

Why is it dirty and cheap? It is nothing like peel back blocks/crack backs, defenseless player hits or hitting the QB late. The linemen aren't being blind sided nor are they defenseless.

Is it dirty when our RB's chop block a 250 LB blitzing up the middle or should our 195 RB suck it up and attempt to block the LB up high the way a real man does?

Maybe two hand touch or flag football is in the near future.

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:40 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:36 pm

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:33 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 7:17 pm

travelingagg wrote: ↑

September 19th, 2021, 12:53 pm

If you re-watch the game, pay attention notice offensive linemen #63 Smalley, #68 Paglialong, an #79 Booth. At 265 lbs, 285 lbs, and 280 lbs respectively, they are undersized and quite consistently lunged forward at our DL an LBs' knees. Pretty annoying to watch.

Its legal as long as you don't double team high-low, AFA has done it for 30 years, its a triple option staple, and its a great way to get the D-lineman to back off when you are getting beat. Not sure what the point is here.

Cause grown a$$ men should block with their head up instead of their d!ck in the dirt.

Just cause it is legal doesn't mean it isn't dirty and cheap

This has always been how triple option offenses block. We aren't used to it because only a few teams run that offense anymore. Rewind thirty or forty years and there were dozens of teams running option type of offenses.

I dont give a Fu how long it has been done. It is 100% BS. And if they are serious about keeping players safe they need to get it out of the game.

Hey, the leg whip has been gone for decades.

USU78 wrote: ↑

September 18th, 2021, 9:38 pm

Head up. Ball released. Three steps. Accelerating into hit in small if Bonner's back

Bad no call

Mad as hell about the no call, but I think that hit won us the game. Bonner was long and high all night. Peasley was the change of pace we needed. Hope Bonner is ok.

NVAggie wrote: ↑

September 20th, 2021, 9:02 am

Bonner wasn't long and high all night. He had some misfires. He did seem to peter out early in the third. He can't take hits like that and stay standing up.

If he got cracked ribs or a bruised kidney, he had no business trying to go back in like he did.

I don't get the argument that we would have lost if Bonner didn't get hurt. The guy got hurt right after throwing a great TD pass that put us back in the game. Peasley played great. But Bonner was playing great too.