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Wanted to start a thread in regards to Boise and what they do well. I have not watched much of their games this year. I know they have Bachmeier back at QB who is a solid QB. I believe they have Holani at RB, but there run game has been really poor this year. I think they still have Shakir at WR who is an awesome receiver.
What are their other strengths, weaknesses and how do you envision the Aggies exploiting them?
What are their other strengths, weaknesses and how do you envision the Aggies exploiting them?
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You beat them by playing tough for 60 minutes then they will quit.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑September 21st, 2021, 3:48 pmWanted to start a thread in regards to Boise and what they do well. I have not watched much of their games this year. I know they have Bachmeier back at QB who is a solid QB. I believe they have Holani at RB, but there run game has been really poor this year. I think they still have Shakir at WR who is an awesome receiver.
What are their other strengths, weaknesses and how do you envision the Aggies exploiting them?
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This kind of seems like it's the Aggie way this year, perseverance through and through until the end, we've been down at the half for all three games and came back and found a way/outlasted our opponents. They might show up to fight the Bull, but the Bull isn't going down so easy.SLB wrote: ↑September 21st, 2021, 4:03 pmYou beat them by playing tough for 60 minutes then they will quit.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑September 21st, 2021, 3:48 pmWanted to start a thread in regards to Boise and what they do well. I have not watched much of their games this year. I know they have Bachmeier back at QB who is a solid QB. I believe they have Holani at RB, but there run game has been really poor this year. I think they still have Shakir at WR who is an awesome receiver.
What are their other strengths, weaknesses and how do you envision the Aggies exploiting them?
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UCF was clearly not as good as Boise State but won easily, and Boise State quit after the 1st quarter.ViAggie wrote: ↑September 21st, 2021, 4:12 pmThis kind of seems like it's the Aggie way this year, perseverance through and through until the end, we've been down at the half for all three games and came back and found a way/outlasted our opponents. They might show up to fight the Bull, but the Bull isn't going down so easy.SLB wrote: ↑September 21st, 2021, 4:03 pmYou beat them by playing tough for 60 minutes then they will quit.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑September 21st, 2021, 3:48 pmWanted to start a thread in regards to Boise and what they do well. I have not watched much of their games this year. I know they have Bachmeier back at QB who is a solid QB. I believe they have Holani at RB, but there run game has been really poor this year. I think they still have Shakir at WR who is an awesome receiver.
What are their other strengths, weaknesses and how do you envision the Aggies exploiting them?
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I am going to make a prediction. Boise State is not going to be in a bowl game.
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It's time for my annual assessment. I don't post much and when I do its usually Boise State related as I also do not despise Boise State....I actually like having them in our conference. The Broncos have 10 year's worth of bed crapping in 3 games this year. They certainly have talent but have either given up or the coaching has not learned how to adjust mid-game. Everyone has been able to run on them and with their lack of depth, it will only get worse. Perhaps the biggest issue that I've seen is that their O line is terrible. Anyone that saw them play OSU can certainly attest, Bachmeier was constantly under pressure and was hit.... a lot. They'll be lucky to keep him healthy this season. Their pitiful O line also is indicative of their awful running game. Holani looks like a beast but he's just not there. Van Buren and their Oregon transfer have been lackluster as well. If they could fix that line, these guys would shine. So the more pressure we can give, the better. They do have Shakir (WR) who is a stud, makes plays out of nothing. On defense, watch out for Skinner, that guy will play undoubtedly at the next level. Looking forward to the game!
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The key for them on offense seems to be the same as last year - when Holani is in (and healthy) they are a completely different team. He has not played a whole lot through the first 3 games and when he has he has not looked to be 100%. I have no idea what his status will be for Saturday but we have a tendency to make guys like him look like Heisman candidates so who knows. As already mentioned, Shakir is the other guy that should scare the crap out of us. I'm not sure we have anyone who can stop him and Bachmeier if they are given the time.
I will add that BSU doesn't seem to have that unbeatable aura about them this year which does give me hope. They don't seem quite as fast or deep on D and have been susceptible to some big plays so who knows.
I will add that BSU doesn't seem to have that unbeatable aura about them this year which does give me hope. They don't seem quite as fast or deep on D and have been susceptible to some big plays so who knows.
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Agg-Man wrote: ↑September 21st, 2021, 4:43 pmIt's time for my annual assessment. I don't post much and when I do its usually Boise State related as I also do not despise Boise State....I actually like having them in our conference. The Broncos have 10 year's worth of bed crapping in 3 games this year. They certainly have talent but have either given up or the coaching has not learned how to adjust mid-game. Everyone has been able to run on them and with their lack of depth, it will only get worse. Perhaps the biggest issue that I've seen is that their O line is terrible. Anyone that saw them play OSU can certainly attest, Bachmeier was constantly under pressure and was hit.... a lot. They'll be lucky to keep him healthy this season. Their pitiful O line also is indicative of their awful running game. Holani looks like a beast but he's just not there. Van Buren and their Oregon transfer have been lackluster as well. If they could fix that line, these guys would shine. So the more pressure we can give, the better. They do have Shakir (WR) who is a stud, makes plays out of nothing. On defense, watch out for Skinner, that guy will play undoubtedly at the next level. Looking forward to the game!
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This is probably what scares me the most about Boise is who on their offense is going to light us up that has not been playing particularly well. Similar to AF who had not been getting much through the air and then they burn us several times over the top. Boise may be down a little bit, but I expect them to be really motivated with their backs against the wall.Aglicious wrote: ↑September 21st, 2021, 5:05 pmThe key for them on offense seems to be the same as last year - when Holani is in (and healthy) they are a completely different team. He has not played a whole lot through the first 3 games and when he has he has not looked to be 100%. I have no idea what his status will be for Saturday but we have a tendency to make guys like him look like Heisman candidates so who knows. As already mentioned, Shakir is the other guy that should scare the crap out of us. I'm not sure we have anyone who can stop him and Bachmeier if they are given the time.
I will add that BSU doesn't seem to have that unbeatable aura about them this year which does give me hope. They don't seem quite as fast or deep on D and have been susceptible to some big plays so who knows.
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Whatever the over/under is for this game, I’d take the over. I would not be surprised for a shootout.
A) Their D-line is severely depleted with injuries, etc. and teams have been able to run all over them. Calvin Jr. should be able to get his way with them with how he’s been performing. The only way I see them stopping the run game is packing the box, which leaves huge potential for big explosives with Thompkin’s speed against man coverage.
B) They simply don’t have a run game. They had 61 rushing yards against OSU. They haven’t had a single player rush more than 45 yards in any of their 3 games. They’re going to be in the air, and they’re going to be in the air A LOT. In my mind that leaves us with essentially 2 options to aid our DB’s: drop extra guys, or rush extra guys to pressure the QB. Truthfully, the game could get ugly with how poorly our DB coverage has looked. With how we’ve struggled with our reads… I’d be highly tempted to stick primarily with a 2-deep man-under concept to make our DB reads as easy as possible and limit big exolosive plays, mixing in some max pressures. That’s just me though.
C) Big O vs Big O. So what are the keys? Turnover margin, special teams, and a gritty mindset. We’re going to have big plays, we’re going to give up big plays. We also have explosive potential on ST with Scarver, a great punter, and in close game situations, our team has proved a tough resiliency with the game on the line whereas the Donks have laid egg after egg. For this reason I expect the Aggies to walk away with a slightly stress-inducing W. Boise St. will come out aggressive, and it will take us a minute to adjust like usual, and we will be down 17-10 at the end of the first quarter. 24-20 for BSU at halftime, but then the Aggies (aka Rice + Thompkins) will make some big plays, and stuff a few 3rd/4th downs leading to a 34-41 Aggie victory.
A) Their D-line is severely depleted with injuries, etc. and teams have been able to run all over them. Calvin Jr. should be able to get his way with them with how he’s been performing. The only way I see them stopping the run game is packing the box, which leaves huge potential for big explosives with Thompkin’s speed against man coverage.
B) They simply don’t have a run game. They had 61 rushing yards against OSU. They haven’t had a single player rush more than 45 yards in any of their 3 games. They’re going to be in the air, and they’re going to be in the air A LOT. In my mind that leaves us with essentially 2 options to aid our DB’s: drop extra guys, or rush extra guys to pressure the QB. Truthfully, the game could get ugly with how poorly our DB coverage has looked. With how we’ve struggled with our reads… I’d be highly tempted to stick primarily with a 2-deep man-under concept to make our DB reads as easy as possible and limit big exolosive plays, mixing in some max pressures. That’s just me though.
C) Big O vs Big O. So what are the keys? Turnover margin, special teams, and a gritty mindset. We’re going to have big plays, we’re going to give up big plays. We also have explosive potential on ST with Scarver, a great punter, and in close game situations, our team has proved a tough resiliency with the game on the line whereas the Donks have laid egg after egg. For this reason I expect the Aggies to walk away with a slightly stress-inducing W. Boise St. will come out aggressive, and it will take us a minute to adjust like usual, and we will be down 17-10 at the end of the first quarter. 24-20 for BSU at halftime, but then the Aggies (aka Rice + Thompkins) will make some big plays, and stuff a few 3rd/4th downs leading to a 34-41 Aggie victory.
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Re: Scouting Boise
I think if we keep Shakir in check, we win. That being said, I do not believe we can keep him in check. Our secondary has been getting shredded by everyone. The few times I've watched Shakir, he has reminded me of Thompkins, but probably better. Hopefully our front 7 can get to the QB quick enough that he can't deliver the ball consistently. Really looking forward to the game!
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Turnovers could be key here. USU defense has forced 5 turnovers - 3 interceptions and 2 fumbles. The problem is - one player has all three interceptions and one of the forced fumbles. That is not good to rely on one guy to make your stops. The rest of the defense has to step up. We do have 4 sacks on the year, but that is in 3 games. The defense must get better.Aggs&Jazz12 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:02 amWhatever the over/under is for this game, I’d take the over. I would not be surprised for a shootout.
A) Their D-line is severely depleted with injuries, etc. and teams have been able to run all over them. Calvin Jr. should be able to get his way with them with how he’s been performing. The only way I see them stopping the run game is packing the box, which leaves huge potential for big explosives with Thompkin’s speed against man coverage.
B) They simply don’t have a run game. They had 61 rushing yards against OSU. They haven’t had a single player rush more than 45 yards in any of their 3 games. They’re going to be in the air, and they’re going to be in the air A LOT. In my mind that leaves us with essentially 2 options to aid our DB’s: drop extra guys, or rush extra guys to pressure the QB. Truthfully, the game could get ugly with how poorly our DB coverage has looked. With how we’ve struggled with our reads… I’d be highly tempted to stick primarily with a 2-deep man-under concept to make our DB reads as easy as possible and limit big exolosive plays, mixing in some max pressures. That’s just me though.
C) Big O vs Big O. So what are the keys? Turnover margin, special teams, and a gritty mindset. We’re going to have big plays, we’re going to give up big plays. We also have explosive potential on ST with Scarver, a great punter, and in close game situations, our team has proved a tough resiliency with the game on the line whereas the Donks have laid egg after egg. For this reason I expect the Aggies to walk away with a slightly stress-inducing W. Boise St. will come out aggressive, and it will take us a minute to adjust like usual, and we will be down 17-10 at the end of the first quarter. 24-20 for BSU at halftime, but then the Aggies (aka Rice + Thompkins) will make some big plays, and stuff a few 3rd/4th downs leading to a 34-41 Aggie victory.
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Just to break it down a step further:Yossarian wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:38 amTurnovers could be key here. USU defense has forced 5 turnovers - 3 interceptions and 2 fumbles. The problem is - one player has all three interceptions and one of the forced fumbles. That is not good to rely on one guy to make your stops. The rest of the defense has to step up. We do have 4 sacks on the year, but that is in 3 games. The defense must get better.Aggs&Jazz12 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:02 amWhatever the over/under is for this game, I’d take the over. I would not be surprised for a shootout.
A) Their D-line is severely depleted with injuries, etc. and teams have been able to run all over them. Calvin Jr. should be able to get his way with them with how he’s been performing. The only way I see them stopping the run game is packing the box, which leaves huge potential for big explosives with Thompkin’s speed against man coverage.
B) They simply don’t have a run game. They had 61 rushing yards against OSU. They haven’t had a single player rush more than 45 yards in any of their 3 games. They’re going to be in the air, and they’re going to be in the air A LOT. In my mind that leaves us with essentially 2 options to aid our DB’s: drop extra guys, or rush extra guys to pressure the QB. Truthfully, the game could get ugly with how poorly our DB coverage has looked. With how we’ve struggled with our reads… I’d be highly tempted to stick primarily with a 2-deep man-under concept to make our DB reads as easy as possible and limit big exolosive plays, mixing in some max pressures. That’s just me though.
C) Big O vs Big O. So what are the keys? Turnover margin, special teams, and a gritty mindset. We’re going to have big plays, we’re going to give up big plays. We also have explosive potential on ST with Scarver, a great punter, and in close game situations, our team has proved a tough resiliency with the game on the line whereas the Donks have laid egg after egg. For this reason I expect the Aggies to walk away with a slightly stress-inducing W. Boise St. will come out aggressive, and it will take us a minute to adjust like usual, and we will be down 17-10 at the end of the first quarter. 24-20 for BSU at halftime, but then the Aggies (aka Rice + Thompkins) will make some big plays, and stuff a few 3rd/4th downs leading to a 34-41 Aggie victory.
By comparison:
The 2018 defense had 32 sacks, 9 forced fumbles, and 22 interceptions on the year.
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32 sacks. Per game 2.46
9 forced fumbles. Per game .69
22 interceptions. Per game 1.69
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4 sacks. Per game 1.33
2 forced fumbles. Per game .67
3 interceptions. Per game 1
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And a little more to the story:Aggie19 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:49 amJust to break it down a step further:Yossarian wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:38 amTurnovers could be key here. USU defense has forced 5 turnovers - 3 interceptions and 2 fumbles. The problem is - one player has all three interceptions and one of the forced fumbles. That is not good to rely on one guy to make your stops. The rest of the defense has to step up. We do have 4 sacks on the year, but that is in 3 games. The defense must get better.Aggs&Jazz12 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:02 amWhatever the over/under is for this game, I’d take the over. I would not be surprised for a shootout.
A) Their D-line is severely depleted with injuries, etc. and teams have been able to run all over them. Calvin Jr. should be able to get his way with them with how he’s been performing. The only way I see them stopping the run game is packing the box, which leaves huge potential for big explosives with Thompkin’s speed against man coverage.
B) They simply don’t have a run game. They had 61 rushing yards against OSU. They haven’t had a single player rush more than 45 yards in any of their 3 games. They’re going to be in the air, and they’re going to be in the air A LOT. In my mind that leaves us with essentially 2 options to aid our DB’s: drop extra guys, or rush extra guys to pressure the QB. Truthfully, the game could get ugly with how poorly our DB coverage has looked. With how we’ve struggled with our reads… I’d be highly tempted to stick primarily with a 2-deep man-under concept to make our DB reads as easy as possible and limit big exolosive plays, mixing in some max pressures. That’s just me though.
C) Big O vs Big O. So what are the keys? Turnover margin, special teams, and a gritty mindset. We’re going to have big plays, we’re going to give up big plays. We also have explosive potential on ST with Scarver, a great punter, and in close game situations, our team has proved a tough resiliency with the game on the line whereas the Donks have laid egg after egg. For this reason I expect the Aggies to walk away with a slightly stress-inducing W. Boise St. will come out aggressive, and it will take us a minute to adjust like usual, and we will be down 17-10 at the end of the first quarter. 24-20 for BSU at halftime, but then the Aggies (aka Rice + Thompkins) will make some big plays, and stuff a few 3rd/4th downs leading to a 34-41 Aggie victory.
By comparison:
The 2018 defense had 32 sacks, 9 forced fumbles, and 22 interceptions on the year.
2018
32 sacks. Per game 2.46
9 forced fumbles. Per game .69
22 interceptions. Per game 1.69
2021
4 sacks. Per game 1.33
2 forced fumbles. Per game .67
3 interceptions. Per game 1
2018 defense gave up 385 yards and 23 points per game, on average
2021 defense has given up 473 yards and 31 points per game (with Boise State and BYU coming in the next two weeks)
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We need 5.84 sacks, .76 forced fumbles, and 3.76 interceptions this game! Hopefully the defense is doing their homework.Aggie19 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:49 amJust to break it down a step further:Yossarian wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:38 amTurnovers could be key here. USU defense has forced 5 turnovers - 3 interceptions and 2 fumbles. The problem is - one player has all three interceptions and one of the forced fumbles. That is not good to rely on one guy to make your stops. The rest of the defense has to step up. We do have 4 sacks on the year, but that is in 3 games. The defense must get better.Aggs&Jazz12 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:02 amWhatever the over/under is for this game, I’d take the over. I would not be surprised for a shootout.
A) Their D-line is severely depleted with injuries, etc. and teams have been able to run all over them. Calvin Jr. should be able to get his way with them with how he’s been performing. The only way I see them stopping the run game is packing the box, which leaves huge potential for big explosives with Thompkin’s speed against man coverage.
B) They simply don’t have a run game. They had 61 rushing yards against OSU. They haven’t had a single player rush more than 45 yards in any of their 3 games. They’re going to be in the air, and they’re going to be in the air A LOT. In my mind that leaves us with essentially 2 options to aid our DB’s: drop extra guys, or rush extra guys to pressure the QB. Truthfully, the game could get ugly with how poorly our DB coverage has looked. With how we’ve struggled with our reads… I’d be highly tempted to stick primarily with a 2-deep man-under concept to make our DB reads as easy as possible and limit big exolosive plays, mixing in some max pressures. That’s just me though.
C) Big O vs Big O. So what are the keys? Turnover margin, special teams, and a gritty mindset. We’re going to have big plays, we’re going to give up big plays. We also have explosive potential on ST with Scarver, a great punter, and in close game situations, our team has proved a tough resiliency with the game on the line whereas the Donks have laid egg after egg. For this reason I expect the Aggies to walk away with a slightly stress-inducing W. Boise St. will come out aggressive, and it will take us a minute to adjust like usual, and we will be down 17-10 at the end of the first quarter. 24-20 for BSU at halftime, but then the Aggies (aka Rice + Thompkins) will make some big plays, and stuff a few 3rd/4th downs leading to a 34-41 Aggie victory.
By comparison:
The 2018 defense had 32 sacks, 9 forced fumbles, and 22 interceptions on the year.
2018
32 sacks. Per game 2.46
9 forced fumbles. Per game .69
22 interceptions. Per game 1.69
2021
4 sacks. Per game 1.33
2 forced fumbles. Per game .67
3 interceptions. Per game 1
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He'll probably end up being a freshman all american.
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Boise has lost some games, but everyone seems to get their crap together when they play us. We will get their best shot.
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Our defense, IMO, won't get better in this game. Boise State is the best team we'll see all year until we're in the MWCG. Fresno State is better.
Holani is an athletic and good RB. They run about 3 RBS. All of them can play, similar to what we're doing. However, in my opinion, they're slightly more athletic.
Shakir is an outstanding receiver as has been mentioned. Don't think that's where it ends. The other receivers can play too. They like to throw to Koetter (Dirk Koetter's son) too. He's not quick, but he reminds me of Derek Wright. Look for Caples and Evans to get involved also. They don't have anyone as big as McGriff, but they have plenty of skill and speed.
Their defense is actually what worries me the most.
#1 Three guys stand out to me. #44 (LB) Riley Whimpy. He had a key forced fumble of Jaylen Warren against Ok State that should've won the game for the Broncos, but the refs made a critical mistake that basically cost Boise the game. He made a heady play on that tackle, because he didn't just tackle him. He tackled the ball and stripped it at the same time. #00 (Safety) JL Skinner. He plays safety and he's 6-4 218lbs and led them in tackles against Ok St. He's going to be playing on Sundays, guaranteed. He's the one that scored the TD that the refs took away with the botched fumble call. #28 Kekaula Kaniho 5-11 188lbs (Safety) He's one of the best players on the team even though he doesn't have a lot of size for his position. This kid plays very smart football.
#2 A lot has been said about their DL. I'm not so sure. They do have experience there. #94 is a Jr who went to Timpview. #99 Matlock was causing problems for Ok St most of the game. He's a JR. #38 at DE is a JR #55 is a SR at DE. I don't know which of those four won't play, but there's word that one of them will be replaced by a freshman. In any case, they'll still be good enough to give us problems.
#3 The key to this game, IMO, is that Bonner doesn't throw INTs because that defensive backfield is one of the best in the MWC. And when we run, we can't get stripped of the ball. The Aggies MUST win the TO margin, because Boise State is one of the leaders in the country in turnover margin right now.
Obichere doesn't start. So, their defensive line is going to be fine.
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Holani is an athletic and good RB. They run about 3 RBS. All of them can play, similar to what we're doing. However, in my opinion, they're slightly more athletic.
Shakir is an outstanding receiver as has been mentioned. Don't think that's where it ends. The other receivers can play too. They like to throw to Koetter (Dirk Koetter's son) too. He's not quick, but he reminds me of Derek Wright. Look for Caples and Evans to get involved also. They don't have anyone as big as McGriff, but they have plenty of skill and speed.
Their defense is actually what worries me the most.
#1 Three guys stand out to me. #44 (LB) Riley Whimpy. He had a key forced fumble of Jaylen Warren against Ok State that should've won the game for the Broncos, but the refs made a critical mistake that basically cost Boise the game. He made a heady play on that tackle, because he didn't just tackle him. He tackled the ball and stripped it at the same time. #00 (Safety) JL Skinner. He plays safety and he's 6-4 218lbs and led them in tackles against Ok St. He's going to be playing on Sundays, guaranteed. He's the one that scored the TD that the refs took away with the botched fumble call. #28 Kekaula Kaniho 5-11 188lbs (Safety) He's one of the best players on the team even though he doesn't have a lot of size for his position. This kid plays very smart football.
#2 A lot has been said about their DL. I'm not so sure. They do have experience there. #94 is a Jr who went to Timpview. #99 Matlock was causing problems for Ok St most of the game. He's a JR. #38 at DE is a JR #55 is a SR at DE. I don't know which of those four won't play, but there's word that one of them will be replaced by a freshman. In any case, they'll still be good enough to give us problems.
#3 The key to this game, IMO, is that Bonner doesn't throw INTs because that defensive backfield is one of the best in the MWC. And when we run, we can't get stripped of the ball. The Aggies MUST win the TO margin, because Boise State is one of the leaders in the country in turnover margin right now.
Obichere doesn't start. So, their defensive line is going to be fine.
Go Aggies!
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I would settle for a game similar to the 2015 gameAGNUMPI wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 12:04 pmWe need 5.84 sacks, .76 forced fumbles, and 3.76 interceptions this game! Hopefully the defense is doing their homework.Aggie19 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:49 amJust to break it down a step further:Yossarian wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:38 amTurnovers could be key here. USU defense has forced 5 turnovers - 3 interceptions and 2 fumbles. The problem is - one player has all three interceptions and one of the forced fumbles. That is not good to rely on one guy to make your stops. The rest of the defense has to step up. We do have 4 sacks on the year, but that is in 3 games. The defense must get better.Aggs&Jazz12 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 11:02 amWhatever the over/under is for this game, I’d take the over. I would not be surprised for a shootout.
A) Their D-line is severely depleted with injuries, etc. and teams have been able to run all over them. Calvin Jr. should be able to get his way with them with how he’s been performing. The only way I see them stopping the run game is packing the box, which leaves huge potential for big explosives with Thompkin’s speed against man coverage.
B) They simply don’t have a run game. They had 61 rushing yards against OSU. They haven’t had a single player rush more than 45 yards in any of their 3 games. They’re going to be in the air, and they’re going to be in the air A LOT. In my mind that leaves us with essentially 2 options to aid our DB’s: drop extra guys, or rush extra guys to pressure the QB. Truthfully, the game could get ugly with how poorly our DB coverage has looked. With how we’ve struggled with our reads… I’d be highly tempted to stick primarily with a 2-deep man-under concept to make our DB reads as easy as possible and limit big exolosive plays, mixing in some max pressures. That’s just me though.
C) Big O vs Big O. So what are the keys? Turnover margin, special teams, and a gritty mindset. We’re going to have big plays, we’re going to give up big plays. We also have explosive potential on ST with Scarver, a great punter, and in close game situations, our team has proved a tough resiliency with the game on the line whereas the Donks have laid egg after egg. For this reason I expect the Aggies to walk away with a slightly stress-inducing W. Boise St. will come out aggressive, and it will take us a minute to adjust like usual, and we will be down 17-10 at the end of the first quarter. 24-20 for BSU at halftime, but then the Aggies (aka Rice + Thompkins) will make some big plays, and stuff a few 3rd/4th downs leading to a 34-41 Aggie victory.
By comparison:
The 2018 defense had 32 sacks, 9 forced fumbles, and 22 interceptions on the year.
2018
32 sacks. Per game 2.46
9 forced fumbles. Per game .69
22 interceptions. Per game 1.69
2021
4 sacks. Per game 1.33
2 forced fumbles. Per game .67
3 interceptions. Per game 1
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USU only had 334 yards of total offense, but forced 8 BSU turnovers (3 INT's and 5 fumbles) and scored 52 points. That would be good for me.
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How is Riley Whimpy still in school. People make fun of Brock Miller for still being in school. I swear we were recruiting Whimpy 8 years ago when I was taking classes with the Whimpy Brothers.
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We need a lot more of Boise's series to end in turnovers or punts than we have been able to get against our other opponents this year. Similar to 2015.
Is that even possible? I don't know, but I hope the team does well. AggieFBObsession's points make it clear this will not be an "easy" game by any stretch of the imagination. Coming out of Boise with a win would the result of a very hard fought game with exceptionally few mistakes on our part.
Is that even possible? I don't know, but I hope the team does well. AggieFBObsession's points make it clear this will not be an "easy" game by any stretch of the imagination. Coming out of Boise with a win would the result of a very hard fought game with exceptionally few mistakes on our part.
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"Super Senior"LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2021, 12:30 pmHow is Riley Whimpy still in school. People make fun of Brock Miller for still being in school. I swear we were recruiting Whimpy 8 years ago when I was taking classes with the Whimpy Brothers.
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Honestly.............as a BSU fan and season ticket holder for over 30 years I am a bit shocked that we are favored in Vegas to win this game.
Now those guys typically know what they are doing but.......this fan is shocked nonetheless.
This will be one of the first games I am not travelling to Logan to watch and it is honestly just because I am way disappointed in what I have seen this season thus far. (And no I am typically NOT a fair weather fan.....)
And being a bit under the weather with a non Covid illness has factored into that decision.
However I am optimistic that this brand new coaching staff will start getting the talent they have to perform for four quarters and I beleive they will; whether it is this week or not......time will tell. But I do believe it is coming.
Our offensive coordinator is good; however inexperienced at this level.
Our defensive coordinator is good; however very young and no doubt that head coach Avalos is starting to ingrain himself into those defensive meetings more and more all of the time.
Out of certain formations our play calling has been predictable; i.e. look at the Oklahoma State game sometime.......with tight end and single back in the game they brought six to seven guys to the line of scrimmage and we continually ran out of that formation never throwing but one time out of it IIRC. Nobody is going to run between the tackles with six blocking seven.
And it appears as though our oline is one block away from getting the run game going; if one olineman misses a block the run game is nonexistent and that is what appears to he happening.
As for defense, Oklahome State gashed us with their zone blocking schemes and we had linebackers over pursue and Warren simply cut back in the vacated lane....over and over again.
Again....just takes one guy to be out of position to make an explosive play develop.
One thing I will say we have.......speed. Watch Skinner play and you will see what I mean.......and the dude can hit.
Anyway just wanted to jump on and say here is to a good, competitive game with little to no injuries to either team.
Now those guys typically know what they are doing but.......this fan is shocked nonetheless.
This will be one of the first games I am not travelling to Logan to watch and it is honestly just because I am way disappointed in what I have seen this season thus far. (And no I am typically NOT a fair weather fan.....)
And being a bit under the weather with a non Covid illness has factored into that decision.
However I am optimistic that this brand new coaching staff will start getting the talent they have to perform for four quarters and I beleive they will; whether it is this week or not......time will tell. But I do believe it is coming.
Our offensive coordinator is good; however inexperienced at this level.
Our defensive coordinator is good; however very young and no doubt that head coach Avalos is starting to ingrain himself into those defensive meetings more and more all of the time.
Out of certain formations our play calling has been predictable; i.e. look at the Oklahoma State game sometime.......with tight end and single back in the game they brought six to seven guys to the line of scrimmage and we continually ran out of that formation never throwing but one time out of it IIRC. Nobody is going to run between the tackles with six blocking seven.
And it appears as though our oline is one block away from getting the run game going; if one olineman misses a block the run game is nonexistent and that is what appears to he happening.
As for defense, Oklahome State gashed us with their zone blocking schemes and we had linebackers over pursue and Warren simply cut back in the vacated lane....over and over again.
Again....just takes one guy to be out of position to make an explosive play develop.
One thing I will say we have.......speed. Watch Skinner play and you will see what I mean.......and the dude can hit.
Anyway just wanted to jump on and say here is to a good, competitive game with little to no injuries to either team.
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Thanks for thoughtful post. This will be the Aggies' toughest game so far. Boise while the record is 1-2 has played some solid teams and almost won both of them. Boise is talented across the board, I hope the Aggies come prepared to get the victory.AVBronco32 wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 7:25 amHonestly.............as a BSU fan and season ticket holder for over 30 years I am a bit shocked that we are favored in Vegas to win this game.
Now those guys typically know what they are doing but.......this fan is shocked nonetheless.
This will be one of the first games I am not travelling to Logan to watch and it is honestly just because I am way disappointed in what I have seen this season thus far. (And no I am typically NOT a fair weather fan.....)
And being a bit under the weather with a non Covid illness has factored into that decision.
However I am optimistic that this brand new coaching staff will start getting the talent they have to perform for four quarters and I beleive they will; whether it is this week or not......time will tell. But I do believe it is coming.
Our offensive coordinator is good; however inexperienced at this level.
Our defensive coordinator is good; however very young and no doubt that head coach Avalos is starting to ingrain himself into those defensive meetings more and more all of the time.
Out of certain formations our play calling has been predictable; i.e. look at the Oklahoma State game sometime.......with tight end and single back in the game they brought six to seven guys to the line of scrimmage and we continually ran out of that formation never throwing but one time out of it IIRC. Nobody is going to run between the tackles with six blocking seven.
And it appears as though our oline is one block away from getting the run game going; if one olineman misses a block the run game is nonexistent and that is what appears to he happening.
As for defense, Oklahome State gashed us with their zone blocking schemes and we had linebackers over pursue and Warren simply cut back in the vacated lane....over and over again.
Again....just takes one guy to be out of position to make an explosive play develop.
One thing I will say we have.......speed. Watch Skinner play and you will see what I mean.......and the dude can hit.
Anyway just wanted to jump on and say here is to a good, competitive game with little to no injuries to either team.
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That hit/tackle Skinner had in the Oklahoma State game was a thing a beauty. Completely lifted the the ball carrier up off the ground. He closed with such speed an power that the back couldn't react to avoid the hit square on. I had to rewind that and watch again like 8 times.AVBronco32 wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 7:25 amHonestly.............as a BSU fan and season ticket holder for over 30 years I am a bit shocked that we are favored in Vegas to win this game.
Now those guys typically know what they are doing but.......this fan is shocked nonetheless.
This will be one of the first games I am not travelling to Logan to watch and it is honestly just because I am way disappointed in what I have seen this season thus far. (And no I am typically NOT a fair weather fan.....)
And being a bit under the weather with a non Covid illness has factored into that decision.
However I am optimistic that this brand new coaching staff will start getting the talent they have to perform for four quarters and I beleive they will; whether it is this week or not......time will tell. But I do believe it is coming.
Our offensive coordinator is good; however inexperienced at this level.
Our defensive coordinator is good; however very young and no doubt that head coach Avalos is starting to ingrain himself into those defensive meetings more and more all of the time.
Out of certain formations our play calling has been predictable; i.e. look at the Oklahoma State game sometime.......with tight end and single back in the game they brought six to seven guys to the line of scrimmage and we continually ran out of that formation never throwing but one time out of it IIRC. Nobody is going to run between the tackles with six blocking seven.
And it appears as though our oline is one block away from getting the run game going; if one olineman misses a block the run game is nonexistent and that is what appears to he happening.
As for defense, Oklahome State gashed us with their zone blocking schemes and we had linebackers over pursue and Warren simply cut back in the vacated lane....over and over again.
Again....just takes one guy to be out of position to make an explosive play develop.
One thing I will say we have.......speed. Watch Skinner play and you will see what I mean.......and the dude can hit.
Anyway just wanted to jump on and say here is to a good, competitive game with little to no injuries to either team.
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The beast may currently be wounded, but it remains the beast. Boise has been historically very, very tough and I see this game as no different. Sounds like some gifted Bronco players graduated or were lost in the off season, but the program remains intact.AVBronco32 wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 7:25 amHonestly.............as a BSU fan and season ticket holder for over 30 years I am a bit shocked that we are favored in Vegas to win this game.
Now those guys typically know what they are doing but.......this fan is shocked nonetheless.
This will be one of the first games I am not traveling to Logan to watch and it is honestly just because I am way disappointed in what I have seen this season thus far. (And no I am typically NOT a fair weather fan.....)
And being a bit under the weather with a non Covid illness has factored into that decision.
However I am optimistic that this brand new coaching staff will start getting the talent they have to perform for four quarters and I beleive they will; whether it is this week or not......time will tell. But I do believe it is coming.
Our offensive coordinator is good; however inexperienced at this level.
Our defensive coordinator is good; however very young and no doubt that head coach Avalos is starting to ingrain himself into those defensive meetings more and more all of the time.
Out of certain formations our play calling has been predictable; i.e. look at the Oklahoma State game sometime.......with tight end and single back in the game they brought six to seven guys to the line of scrimmage and we continually ran out of that formation never throwing but one time out of it IIRC. Nobody is going to run between the tackles with six blocking seven.
And it appears as though our oline is one block away from getting the run game going; if one olineman misses a block the run game is nonexistent and that is what appears to he happening.
As for defense, Oklahome State gashed us with their zone blocking schemes and we had linebackers over pursue and Warren simply cut back in the vacated lane....over and over again.
Again....just takes one guy to be out of position to make an explosive play develop.
One thing I will say we have.......speed. Watch Skinner play and you will see what I mean.......and the dude can hit.
Anyway just wanted to jump on and say here is to a good, competitive game with little to no injuries to either team.
Respect is something I've not lost for Boise, and I trust our new staff, attitude and culture will keep us in the game and even deliver us a shot at a valued win over a prestigious program. It is their system that sustains the Bronco program, and Boise has developed their system. Others should take note.
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I think there are some strong takes on this thread. I think this one should be ours for the taking, but you just can't count those guys out until the clock reads 00:00. They aren't the same boazy we are used to, but they have past success and high expectations to live up to and they will be motivated to make a statement. I really think this one is a coin-flip of a game. A few bounces either way can make all of the difference here.
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Great thoughts Cache. I agree with most of what you said, and as someone who bleeds USU Blue, I just have a very baaaad feeling about this game. Boizee is like 6 or 7 points away from being 3-0, and only lost to two B12 teams. It looks like they are going to win this game easily IMO. They have always been great, and I think they constantly put us in our place during MW play. But so help me.... if any BSU fans start chanting BOISE! STATE! right next to me, I will throw an entire Angies kitchen sink at their face!CacheMoney wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 2:31 pmI think there are some strong takes on this thread. I think this one should be ours for the taking, but you just can't count those guys out until the clock reads 00:00. They aren't the same boazy we are used to, but they have past success and high expectations to live up to and they will be motivated to make a statement. I really think this one is a coin-flip of a game. A few bounces either way can make all of the difference here.
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Whoa man, settle down! As much as I'd like to do something when they do their stupid chant, we need to rise above and be good fans. Don't act like they do up on the smurf turf. Seriously though guys, let's all just remember what makes us a better community and show who we are.RexburgAggie wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 2:59 pmGreat thoughts Cache. I agree with most of what you said, and as someone who bleeds USU Blue, I just have a very baaaad feeling about this game. Boizee is like 6 or 7 points away from being 3-0, and only lost to two B12 teams. It looks like they are going to win this game easily IMO. They have always been great, and I think they constantly put us in our place during MW play. But so help me.... if any BSU fans start chanting BOISE! STATE! right next to me, I will throw an entire Angies kitchen sink at their face!CacheMoney wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 2:31 pmI think there are some strong takes on this thread. I think this one should be ours for the taking, but you just can't count those guys out until the clock reads 00:00. They aren't the same boazy we are used to, but they have past success and high expectations to live up to and they will be motivated to make a statement. I really think this one is a coin-flip of a game. A few bounces either way can make all of the difference here.
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Something is fishy about these "two" accounts. Both started on the same day, using the same voice, and never posting since.CacheMoney wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 3:02 pmWhoa man, settle down! As much as I'd like to do something when they do their stupid chant, we need to rise above and be good fans. Don't act like they do up on the smurf turf. Seriously though guys, let's all just remember what makes us a better community and show who we are.RexburgAggie wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 2:59 pmGreat thoughts Cache. I agree with most of what you said, and as someone who bleeds USU Blue, I just have a very baaaad feeling about this game. Boizee is like 6 or 7 points away from being 3-0, and only lost to two B12 teams. It looks like they are going to win this game easily IMO. They have always been great, and I think they constantly put us in our place during MW play. But so help me.... if any BSU fans start chanting BOISE! STATE! right next to me, I will throw an entire Angies kitchen sink at their face!CacheMoney wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 2:31 pmI think there are some strong takes on this thread. I think this one should be ours for the taking, but you just can't count those guys out until the clock reads 00:00. They aren't the same boazy we are used to, but they have past success and high expectations to live up to and they will be motivated to make a statement. I really think this one is a coin-flip of a game. A few bounces either way can make all of the difference here.
Also, the Aggies played Boise on Nov. 23 in 2019, right after the accounts were created....
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Good detective work, fishy indeed…superheroboy wrote:Something is fishy about these "two" accounts. Both started on the same day, using the same voice, and never posting since.CacheMoney wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 3:02 pmWhoa man, settle down! As much as I'd like to do something when they do their stupid chant, we need to rise above and be good fans. Don't act like they do up on the smurf turf. Seriously though guys, let's all just remember what makes us a better community and show who we are.RexburgAggie wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 2:59 pmGreat thoughts Cache. I agree with most of what you said, and as someone who bleeds USU Blue, I just have a very baaaad feeling about this game. Boizee is like 6 or 7 points away from being 3-0, and only lost to two B12 teams. It looks like they are going to win this game easily IMO. They have always been great, and I think they constantly put us in our place during MW play. But so help me.... if any BSU fans start chanting BOISE! STATE! right next to me, I will throw an entire Angies kitchen sink at their face!CacheMoney wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 2:31 pmI think there are some strong takes on this thread. I think this one should be ours for the taking, but you just can't count those guys out until the clock reads 00:00. They aren't the same boazy we are used to, but they have past success and high expectations to live up to and they will be motivated to make a statement. I really think this one is a coin-flip of a game. A few bounces either way can make all of the difference here.
Also, the Aggies played Boise on Nov. 23 in 2019, right after the accounts were created....
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Haha, like Hannah Montana or something! No, I don't know about Rexburg Aggie, but I live around a bunch of donk fans and this game always gets me fired up to be on the board. It is fun to roll in to church on sundays after they lose and see some down-trodden donks.BleedAggieBlue0 wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 3:51 pmGood detective work, fishy indeed…superheroboy wrote:Something is fishy about these "two" accounts. Both started on the same day, using the same voice, and never posting since.CacheMoney wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 3:02 pmWhoa man, settle down! As much as I'd like to do something when they do their stupid chant, we need to rise above and be good fans. Don't act like they do up on the smurf turf. Seriously though guys, let's all just remember what makes us a better community and show who we are.RexburgAggie wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 2:59 pmGreat thoughts Cache. I agree with most of what you said, and as someone who bleeds USU Blue, I just have a very baaaad feeling about this game. Boizee is like 6 or 7 points away from being 3-0, and only lost to two B12 teams. It looks like they are going to win this game easily IMO. They have always been great, and I think they constantly put us in our place during MW play. But so help me.... if any BSU fans start chanting BOISE! STATE! right next to me, I will throw an entire Angies kitchen sink at their face!CacheMoney wrote: ↑September 24th, 2021, 2:31 pmI think there are some strong takes on this thread. I think this one should be ours for the taking, but you just can't count those guys out until the clock reads 00:00. They aren't the same boazy we are used to, but they have past success and high expectations to live up to and they will be motivated to make a statement. I really think this one is a coin-flip of a game. A few bounces either way can make all of the difference here.
Also, the Aggies played Boise on Nov. 23 in 2019, right after the accounts were created....
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