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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by ineptimusprime » October 25th, 2021, 1:25 pm

Whodahell fires a coach that is 5-3? Especially a stanky, bottom-of-the-barrel P5 like TTU?

Sounds like an institution that lacks a bit of self-awareness about what it is and where it is (Lubbock is the worst city in the Country).
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by GeoAg » October 25th, 2021, 1:31 pm

Sl7vk wrote:
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Maybe Wells can send some recruits our way.


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I would take Columbi back.

As for Wells, he tripled his income at TT. I don't think the Tech expectations are unreasonable. They expect to have bowl eligibility and a winning program.

Kingsbury was 6-7 and 5-7 in his last two years.
Matt was 4-8, 4-6 and about to finish 5-7 this year. For that kind of record, you don't need to pay 3 mill a year.

I'm not really sure what is next for Matt frankly. Best case scenario for him would be a G5 coaching job, because he was not a good cordinator.
He was a good coordinator when he was exclusively a coordinator and not trying to also be a HC. He did very well at OC in 2012.


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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by BobWilson » October 25th, 2021, 1:35 pm

I can't criticize a successful MWC coach from wanting to succeed at a higher level, but how many have done so? One as I recall - Peterson from BSU to UW. I'm probably missing someone, but there were about 3 successful BSU coaches who lasted but a short time at the next level. Harsin (sp?) is still under the microscope.. i would hope that Blake understands this fact of life. Where oh where is Dick Romney?



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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by AGinNEIowa » October 25th, 2021, 1:40 pm

where's Yost at? The article says he was gone after 2020
Sources on Monday told FootballScoop in the immediate aftermath of Wells' firing that Sonny Cumbie would serve the remainder of the 2021 season as the Red Raiders' interim head coach.

A former star quarterback at the school, Cumbie was hired just last December as the Red Raiders' new offensive coordinator....


Wells parted ways after last season with Red Raiders offensive coordinator David Yost, among other staff change



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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by trevordude » October 25th, 2021, 2:14 pm

I really like Wells, however, I prefer coaches who are hungry to win and get a P5 job and a paycheck.

That was my one reservation when we hired Blake, was he looking to just get away from Arky St? Or is he looking for a resume boost so he can get a bigger program.

So while I do like Wells a lot, I rather USU not take any coaches who are "settling down" .


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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by 3rdGenAggie » October 25th, 2021, 2:22 pm

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If Texas Tech thinks they are going to ever be a major player in college football, they had better check themselves for sanity. It may be a little easier for them to compete in the new, watered down Big XII, but they are not much more than a Mountain West team on the national scene. They have ridden the coattails of Texas, TAMU, and Oklahoma for a lot of years and that has given them some sense of worth. They won't find anybody better than Wells to take that job and whoever they get, the best they will get is a 9 win season every once in a while.
They'd absolutely be nothing more than an MWC team if they hadn't been getting all that Big 12 money. I honestly think USU would look like Texas Tech if we'd been getting Big 12 money and had conference mates like Texas and OU to drag us along for the last however many decades.


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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by Aglicious » October 25th, 2021, 2:33 pm

He's owed 70% of the money left on his contract for termination...roughly $7.1M... must be nice. I wouldn't mind seeing him end up in Logan in some capacity. I think he and his family truly do like Logan and he's a good ambassador for USU.
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by 3rdGenAggie » October 25th, 2021, 2:34 pm

I bet that if Wells came to Logan this year, it would likely be as an offensive analyst. Thing is, unless his kids want to change schools mid-year, they'll likely stay in Lubbock through May.


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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by ustate98 » October 25th, 2021, 2:37 pm

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He's owed 70% of the money left on his contract for termination...roughly $7.1M... must be nice. I wouldn't mind seeing him end up in Logan in some capacity. I think he and his family truly do like Logan and he's a good ambassador for USU.
Not too bad at all, originally a 6 year $18.8 million dollar contract. Two and a half years into that deal. Not a bad payday at all.



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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by ViAggie » October 25th, 2021, 2:38 pm

I don’t get firing coaches in the middle of the year, makes no sense unless the coach is simply a distraction or there is a bad personal issue it’s bad optics foe the school as well, good luck finding a decent replacement now.
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by USU78 » October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm

I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by WasatchAggie » October 25th, 2021, 2:53 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:
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… I will say this about TT, their expectations do not fit the reality of where they stand as a program.


^^^^

Adding to that, Lubbock, Texas has to be one of the hardest places to recruit to in all of D1 football. Maybe he will come back and help coach the Aggies offense as some sort of volunteer.

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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by JSHarvey » October 25th, 2021, 2:58 pm

USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
If I were in his position I would call it a day and just enjoy whatever things came along that caught my interest.

I wish him success in whatever he ends up doing.


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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by Roy McAvoy » October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm

USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??



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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by aggies22 » October 25th, 2021, 3:05 pm

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I bet that if Wells came to Logan this year, it would likely be as an offensive analyst. Thing is, unless his kids want to change schools mid-year, they'll likely stay in Lubbock through May.
It wouldn't be a tough transition, they just join right back up with their former classmates.
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Post by Blue Sage » October 25th, 2021, 3:28 pm

We won a ton of games under Matt. TT is where coaches go to die.
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by stwinward » October 25th, 2021, 3:28 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
I love you guys, but save the investment advice for the professionals. :cheers:
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by deltaaggie » October 25th, 2021, 3:57 pm

What about Blake's commitment to hiring staff from diverse backgrounds? Does that only apply to his initial staff or will that be something moving forward?



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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by LarryTheAggie » October 25th, 2021, 3:58 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
There is this BYU grad in my neighborhood that told me about it. Told me it is a sure thing. He just needs to get a few more investors before I will see any returns... I am pretty excited about it.
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by apo » October 25th, 2021, 4:30 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
https://www.fool.com/investing/how-to-i ... et-return/

Just invest in an S&P portfolio. No fanciness.
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by Roy McAvoy » October 25th, 2021, 4:36 pm

apo wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 4:30 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
https://www.fool.com/investing/how-to-i ... et-return/

Just invest in an S&P portfolio. No fanciness.
The key term here being "pretty safe". The S&P 500 is 100% equity risk. "Pretty safe" investment returns are lucky to yield around 3% right now.



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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by AggieMan5 » October 25th, 2021, 4:50 pm

Did David Yost end up anywhere after getting fired? Couldn’t find anything on google.



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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by utaggies » October 25th, 2021, 4:58 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
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Post by Roy McAvoy » October 25th, 2021, 5:02 pm

AggieMan5 wrote:
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Did David Yost end up anywhere after getting fired? Couldn’t find anything on google.
No.



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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by Blue Sage » October 25th, 2021, 5:04 pm

utaggies wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 4:58 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by aggieaz » October 25th, 2021, 5:14 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
He's talking about Bitcoin.

Safe and safe are two different things.



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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by Aggie19 » October 25th, 2021, 5:46 pm

aggieaz wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 5:14 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
He's talking about Bitcoin.

Safe and safe are two different things.
Or maybe a simple s & p 500 ndex fund. Does anyone mention safe and crypto in the same sentence?


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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by ViAggie » October 25th, 2021, 5:52 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 3:58 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
There is this BYU grad in my neighborhood that told me about it. Told me it is a sure thing. He just needs to get a few more investors before I will see any returns... I am pretty excited about it.
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by Imakeitrain » October 25th, 2021, 6:08 pm

ViAggie wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 5:52 pm
LarryTheAggie wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 3:58 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
There is this BYU grad in my neighborhood that told me about it. Told me it is a sure thing. He just needs to get a few more investors before I will see any returns... I am pretty excited about it.
😂 🤣 oh Utah….
But in Utah it only works when you set up your team. You get 3 people. Then they get get 3 people each...
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by Dwigt » October 25th, 2021, 6:45 pm

BobWilson wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 1:35 pm
I can't criticize a successful MWC coach from wanting to succeed at a higher level, but how many have done so? One as I recall - Peterson from BSU to UW. I'm probably missing someone, but there were about 3 successful BSU coaches who lasted but a short time at the next level. Harsin (sp?) is still under the microscope.. i would hope that Blake understands this fact of life. Where oh where is Dick Romney?
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Post by UStateTim » October 25th, 2021, 7:38 pm

The last coach fired at Tech is now the head coach of the only undefeated team in the NFL. That tells you everything you need to know about how hard it is to win in Lubbock
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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by stang » October 25th, 2021, 8:29 pm

Matt's a great coach and an excellent person. I hope he lands on his feet, and if I were a P5 team looking for a coordinator, I would be ecstatic to have him. He makes his players better.

That said, I don't know how I would feel about him returning to Logan. Perhaps if it were in a mostly advisory role I could get behind it. I just think it's really tough to come home, especially this soon after the fact.
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I’d be all-in with him coming back in some capacity.


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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by Slim80 » October 25th, 2021, 10:42 pm

GeoAg wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 1:31 pm
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October 25th, 2021, 1:05 pm
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Maybe Wells can send some recruits our way.


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I would take Columbi back.

As for Wells, he tripled his income at TT. I don't think the Tech expectations are unreasonable. They expect to have bowl eligibility and a winning program.

Kingsbury was 6-7 and 5-7 in his last two years.
Matt was 4-8, 4-6 and about to finish 5-7 this year. For that kind of record, you don't need to pay 3 mill a year.

I'm not really sure what is next for Matt frankly. Best case scenario for him would be a G5 coaching job, because he was not a good cordinator.
He was a good coordinator when he was exclusively a coordinator and not trying to also be a HC. He did very well at OC in 2012.
Was he really a good coordinator or did he just have the luck of having some pretty stellar players on the offense? (Serious question) I’m just skeptical he was that good of an OC because he sucked at it when he dabbled in it as the HC.

To be clear, I think Matt Wells was a good HC especially when he stayed in his lane and just was a HC.



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Re: Wells Fired at TT

Post by 3rdGenAggie » October 25th, 2021, 10:46 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm
USU78 wrote:
October 25th, 2021, 2:47 pm
I'm aware of an investment vehicle that pays a pretty safe 8.88%. If he could put $6M of that $7.1M in, he'd get over $500K a year interest only, and that's over $44K a month.

I could cut some corners. Eat catfood. Get by on that. Couldn't you?
Please enlighten the rest of us on this investment vehicle paying a pretty safe 8.88%??
Buy and hold stablecoins on Crypto interest websites like BlockFi.com (8.25%), Celsius.Network (8.88%), or Nexo.io (10%, they're a bit newer).

The risk is largely that it's not a bank and thus not FDIC insured (it's an interest account, not a savings account). If the company goes under it takes your investment with it. Also, there's always a risk they could be hacked, though they take pretty strong security measures.

Stablecoins are in the crypto world, but most are tied to the dollar either through actual 1:1 backing or algorithmically. The risks are not that a stablecoin will suddenly tank in value, unless the issuing company was hacked or went under.

(Not investment advice. Do your own research.)
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