Now that my fears of San Jose have been quelled, I am on to being terrified of the Wyoming game.

I just wanted you all to know. Because.

Wyoming is good, but I'm not convinced they're any better than SJSU. Can they beat Utah State? Certainly. Should they beat Utah State? Naw.

Their defense is solid and has put up some gaudy numbers, but they've also given up plenty of points (considering their offensive struggles). They gave up 43 to No. Ill, 27 to SJSU, 24 to Air Force and 22 to Connecticut. All worse offenses than Utah State's. (For comparison, we've only scored less than 24 twice - Boise and BYU.)

Offensively, they've struggled to score at times. 19 against FCS Montana State, 14 against Air Force, 3 against New Mexico ( ), and got shut out against Fresno State. (For comparison we've only allowed more than 24 four times - AFA, Boise, BYU, and Hawaii, two of which were wins. We've allowed exactly 24 another 3 times, all wins (North Dakota, UNLV, and CSU).

Again, this is certainly a game the Aggies COULD lose, but by no means SHOULD they lose it.

Edit: I pick 24 because that seems to be our break point. We seem to win when we score more than 24, and we seem to win when our opponent scores less than 24.

As an Aggie fan i am always concerned. They could be playing Mountain Crest High School and I would worry. WYO has a good defense, but their offense is not great. Limit turnovers, limit their run game and score in the redzone and the Aggies will be fine. WYO is playing for bowl eligibility so they will be motivated. USU better even be more motivated as we are playing to go to the championship and possible host it. I am interested to see how Tucker game plans to open up our passing game against their pass defense. They seem to play a lot of man, hopefully the guys can get separation and Bonner can be on point. WYO does struggle on the road so that will be an advantage. I think it will be a fairly close game, but one where we have a 7-10 point lead from the 2nd quarter on.

This is a huge game for us. Much rides on this one for continuing to pursue the MWC Divisional Championship. Wyoming has a very good defense, that's a given. The Cowboys have two very strong running backs plus their Freshman Q B is getting better each game, and there must be reason a Freshman is starting at Q B.

Yes, I'n anxious, and would anticipate a win against the Cowboys, yet they have historically played us tough.

I dream of 2011 for this Saturday....

NavyBlueAggie wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 12:46 pm

This is a huge game for us. Much rides on this one for continuing to pursue the MWC Divisional Championship. Wyoming has a very good defense, that's a given. The Cowboys have two very strong running backs plus their Freshman Q B is getting better each game, and there must be reason a Freshman is starting at Q B.

Yes, I'n anxious, and would anticipate a win against the Cowboys, yet they have historically played us tough.

Levi Williams is technically a Freshman, but this his 3rd year in the program and has played some in each of the 3 years. He does have some experience.

newhouse9 wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:04 pm

I dream of 2011 for this Saturday....

63-19 baby starting with a 12-0 deficit. Seems like a perfect fit with this year.

Hoping for good weather. I cringed when I saw it changed from an afternoon game to a night game (colder temps). If this were to end up being a snow/blizzard bowl, I wouldn't like our chances against the very physical clock control Pokes. We have a lot of southern boys on this team, especially the transfers (Florida, Texas, Arkansas, Alabama ....). The current forecast has it dry and in the upper 30's for most of the game. Hopefully we can still fling it around and utilize our speed advantage. It's all about mental toughness though, which this team seems to exude.

GeoAg wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:44 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:04 pm

I dream of 2011 for this Saturday....

63-19 baby starting with a 12-0 deficit. Seems like a perfect fit with this year.

good reference, I was at that game, one of my fav. home games ever. We gave Why-o a wild TD by touching the ball before it bounced out of the EZ, I've never seen that before or since.

If you go over to their MB they have a few fans pointing out our squeak out wins vs CSU and UNLV, forgetting the fact that they lost in San Jose to the team we just creamed 48-17. I know I know, match ups. The lowest we've scored in a W this year is 26 points and I think that's our threshold. Why-O has a pretty decent defense so ours has come alive recently as well. I think we'll score more points, and hold them from scoring more points than we score. In the end? JFW Aggies!

They are tough at all three levels on D. Their DBs are solid. But SJSU was touted to have a great defense also. Our boys will just need to execute and play like this game is as important as it is! We HAVE to have this game!

This is the type of game you expect to win when you are two games away from the Conference Championship Game. With recent improvements to our team, I expect to win this one.

NVAggie wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 4:15 pm

This is the type of game you expect to win when you are two games away from the Conference Championship Game. With recent improvements to our team, I expect to win this one.

Agreed as long as we don’t have a let down or get too cocky and not prepare and play our best. If we have a half like we did against NMSU we will lose. They are tough and physical. Just look at how they played Boise last week. They played them closer and better than we did on the road.

Well, seems how this is the over worried thread, I have two bets on the Aggies winning the division and the championship. $400 for winning the division, $1000 for the championship. Huge game for me personally. Only bet $15 total. Getting pretty confident on the division bet.

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Spread is really shifting towards Wyoming. Down to -5 now.

Sl7vk wrote:Spread is really shifting towards Wyoming. Down to -5 now.

They must have seen the latest weather forecast.

AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 8:59 am

Sl7vk wrote:Spread is really shifting towards Wyoming. Down to -5 now.

They must have seen the latest weather forecast.

High of 45 degrees low of 30, likely around the upper 30's at game time. That's what I call football weather! It's the 50% chance of rain that worries me, high 30's and rain is never a good recipe.

ViAggie wrote:

AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 8:59 am

Sl7vk wrote:Spread is really shifting towards Wyoming. Down to -5 now.

They must have seen the latest weather forecast.

High of 45 degrees low of 30, likely around the upper 30's at game time. That's what I call football weather! It's the 50% chance of rain that worries me, high 30's and rain is never a good recipe.

Yeah the temps aren’t too bad but it’s the 50% chance of frozen mix that’s concerning. Hard to fling and catch the ball in that. Sounds like it could be over by evening though.

The weather is a concern. Rain/snow mix definitely plays into Wyoming's offensive style more than USU's.

Consider the receiver knows hos route and the D B must adjust to cover the D B. I'm suggesting that poor footing can favor a receiver even with the cold weather tending to neutralize some soft hands...but not all.

NavyBlueAggie wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 11:42 am

Consider the receiver knows hos route and the D B must adjust to cover the D B. I'm suggesting that poor footing can favor a receiver even with the cold weather tending to neutralize some soft hands...but not all.

Good points. Wind is probably more problematic with passing teams unless it is just an absolute downpour.

I was also thinking about how the style we play seems strange due to the fact we will always be playing games at home in bad weather. Maybe it still favors us late in the game though? Anyway. I’m pumped!!! I love watching games in the cold with some hand warmers and hot cocoa.


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CaptainChaos wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 12:57 pm

I was also thinking about how the style we play seems strange due to the fact we will always be playing games at home in bad weather. Maybe it still favors us late in the game though? Anyway. I’m pumped!!! I love watching games in the cold with some hand warmers and hot cocoa.


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This is something I've thought about quite a bit as well. You would think that a team like SDSU would be the ones to be passing it all over the field playing in such ideal weather throughout the season but instead they grind it out and never have a QB worth a dang. It feels like the Utes are the only Utah based team that structures their offense around a run-first mentality and it has obviously served them well.

Those poor weather games always come late in the year which also coincides with when potentially the biggest games of the season may occur so I've always thought it was better to build around the run game. Those years when we had Turbin, Smith, and a young Kerwynn were very comforting when we had to go play in cold and windy weather.

Sincerely want our AGGIES to win, and win impressively. This game has our coaching staff anxious and they are peppering the team to stay focused and not read the media blatherings expecting USU to hammer the Cowboys. Yes, this Wyoming game is the stuff upsets are made from.

Aglicious wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 5:58 pm

CaptainChaos wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 12:57 pm

I was also thinking about how the style we play seems strange due to the fact we will always be playing games at home in bad weather. Maybe it still favors us late in the game though? Anyway. I’m pumped!!! I love watching games in the cold with some hand warmers and hot cocoa.


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This is something I've thought about quite a bit as well. You would think that a team like SDSU would be the ones to be passing it all over the field playing in such ideal weather throughout the season but instead they grind it out and never have a QB worth a dang. It feels like the Utes are the only Utah based team that structures their offense around a run-first mentality and it has obviously served them well.

Those poor weather games always come late in the year which also coincides with when potentially the biggest games of the season may occur so I've always thought it was better to build around the run game. Those years when we had Turbin, Smith, and a young Kerwynn were very comforting when we had to go play in cold and windy weather.

And yet it was that team with those exact three running backs, Turbin, Smith, and Kerwynn, that lost by 40 to a pass heavy Hawaii team in 2010 in horrid weather at Romney stadium.

I actually agree with everything you said, Aglicious, but I have been bothered about the circumstances and outcome of that game for 11 years now.

ViAggie wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 4:02 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:44 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:04 pm

I dream of 2011 for this Saturday....

63-19 baby starting with a 12-0 deficit. Seems like a perfect fit with this year.

good reference, I was at that game, one of my fav. home games ever. We gave Why-o a wild TD by touching the ball before it bounced out of the EZ, I've never seen that before or since.

Kerwynn Williams was the return man. He touched the ball and it then bounced and settled in the end zone while he walked away like it should be a touchback. A Wyoming player picked it up in the end zone for a touchdown. Calls for Gary Andersen to lose his job were heard as one fan in the upper levels on the west side was yelling to fire him immediately.

Chatman wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 11:39 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 4:02 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:44 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:04 pm

I dream of 2011 for this Saturday....

63-19 baby starting with a 12-0 deficit. Seems like a perfect fit with this year.

good reference, I was at that game, one of my fav. home games ever. We gave Why-o a wild TD by touching the ball before it bounced out of the EZ, I've never seen that before or since.

Kerwynn Williams was the return man. He touched the ball and it then bounced and settled in the end zone while he walked away like it should be a touchback. A Wyoming player picked it up in the end zone for a touchdown. Calls for Gary Andersen to lose his job were heard as one fan in the upper levels on the west side was yelling to fire him immediately.

That one fan proved to be a mighty prophet.

Chatman wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 11:39 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 4:02 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:44 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:04 pm

I dream of 2011 for this Saturday....

63-19 baby starting with a 12-0 deficit. Seems like a perfect fit with this year.

good reference, I was at that game, one of my fav. home games ever. We gave Why-o a wild TD by touching the ball before it bounced out of the EZ, I've never seen that before or since.

Kerwynn Williams was the return man. He touched the ball and it then bounced and settled in the end zone while he walked away like it should be a touchback. A Wyoming player picked it up in the end zone for a touchdown. Calls for Gary Andersen to lose his job were heard as one fan in the upper levels on the west side was yelling to fire him immediately.

I don't think Kerwynn even touched the ball, he just absent mindedly jogged off and allowed the ball to roll into the endzone and lay there until a Wyoming player went and jumped on the ball for a score.

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 10:33 pm

And yet it was that team with those exact three running backs, Turbin, Smith, and Kerwynn, that lost by 40 to a pass heavy Hawaii team in 2010 in horrid weather at Romney stadium.

Turbin and Smith were out with season ending injuries that year.

Aglicious wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 5:58 pm

CaptainChaos wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 12:57 pm

I was also thinking about how the style we play seems strange due to the fact we will always be playing games at home in bad weather. Maybe it still favors us late in the game though? Anyway. I’m pumped!!! I love watching games in the cold with some hand warmers and hot cocoa.


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This is something I've thought about quite a bit as well. You would think that a team like SDSU would be the ones to be passing it all over the field playing in such ideal weather throughout the season but instead they grind it out and never have a QB worth a dang. It feels like the Utes are the only Utah based team that structures their offense around a run-first mentality and it has obviously served them well.

Those poor weather games always come late in the year which also coincides with when potentially the biggest games of the season may occur so I've always thought it was better to build around the run game. Those years when we had Turbin, Smith, and a young Kerwynn were very comforting when we had to go play in cold and windy weather.

I can also appreciate that you have to "play with the cards you are dealt"- it's possible to play uptempo and run it down teams throats. Blake is doing a masterful job with the players he has. Certainly getting DT the ball as much as possible is a good strategy. Blake wants big studs up front and he appears to have made that a recruiting priority so maybe we will see some power running in a hurry up style when he has his own guys.

aggies22 wrote:

Chatman wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 11:39 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 4:02 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:44 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:04 pm

I dream of 2011 for this Saturday....

63-19 baby starting with a 12-0 deficit. Seems like a perfect fit with this year.

good reference, I was at that game, one of my fav. home games ever. We gave Why-o a wild TD by touching the ball before it bounced out of the EZ, I've never seen that before or since.

Kerwynn Williams was the return man. He touched the ball and it then bounced and settled in the end zone while he walked away like it should be a touchback. A Wyoming player picked it up in the end zone for a touchdown. Calls for Gary Andersen to lose his job were heard as one fan in the upper levels on the west side was yelling to fire him immediately.

I don't think Kerwynn even touched the ball, he just absent mindedly jogged off and allowed the ball to roll into the endzone and lay there until a Wyoming player went and jumped on the ball for a score.

This is how I remember it as well

Sl7vk wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 8:39 am

Spread is really shifting towards Wyoming. Down to -5 now.

Vegas is going to keep losing their a$$ on the Aggies

ootek wrote: ↑

November 18th, 2021, 12:51 pm

aggies22 wrote:

Chatman wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 11:39 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 4:02 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:44 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:04 pm

I dream of 2011 for this Saturday....

63-19 baby starting with a 12-0 deficit. Seems like a perfect fit with this year.

good reference, I was at that game, one of my fav. home games ever. We gave Why-o a wild TD by touching the ball before it bounced out of the EZ, I've never seen that before or since.

Kerwynn Williams was the return man. He touched the ball and it then bounced and settled in the end zone while he walked away like it should be a touchback. A Wyoming player picked it up in the end zone for a touchdown. Calls for Gary Andersen to lose his job were heard as one fan in the upper levels on the west side was yelling to fire him immediately.

I don't think Kerwynn even touched the ball, he just absent mindedly jogged off and allowed the ball to roll into the endzone and lay there until a Wyoming player went and jumped on the ball for a score.

This is how I remember it as well

That's right, still never seen anything like it before or ever since, yea I was right there and didn't see him touch it either.

The best part of that 2011 game was the conference situation at the time and capitalizing on the chance to make about a statement about being competitive in the MWC

aggies22 wrote:

Chatman wrote: ↑

November 17th, 2021, 11:39 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 4:02 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:44 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑

November 16th, 2021, 1:04 pm

I dream of 2011 for this Saturday....

63-19 baby starting with a 12-0 deficit. Seems like a perfect fit with this year.

good reference, I was at that game, one of my fav. home games ever. We gave Why-o a wild TD by touching the ball before it bounced out of the EZ, I've never seen that before or since.

Kerwynn Williams was the return man. He touched the ball and it then bounced and settled in the end zone while he walked away like it should be a touchback. A Wyoming player picked it up in the end zone for a touchdown. Calls for Gary Andersen to lose his job were heard as one fan in the upper levels on the west side was yelling to fire him immediately.

I don't think Kerwynn even touched the ball, he just absent mindedly jogged off and allowed the ball to roll into the endzone and lay there until a Wyoming player went and jumped on the ball for a score.

When the ball touches the end zone and is untouched it’s an automatic touchback. The ref thought Kerwynn touched it before it reached the end zone so he didn’t signal a touchback. Kerwynn knew the rule and didn’t think he touched it so he just let it go for what he thought would be a touchback.

Is there any video of the play?