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Time to fire the OC?
Boise did it, do we need to do it? Doesn’t he also hold responsibility of keeping the QB in? And the call playing?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
Play calling is atrocious, especially the run up the gut on 4th and 3 inside the 15 yard line with the game still in the balance.
That said, our receivers don't get any separation at all.
That said, our receivers don't get any separation at all.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
I say he needs to be put on a short leash
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
Fire tucker, but what do we have on a short week to have ready? Turbin and Chuckie coach the offense?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
Knowing Chuckie, he would be ready.TrueBigBlue wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:21 pmFire tucker, but what do we have on a short week to have ready? Turbin and Chuckie coach the offense?
Presumptuous and ill-informed.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
There’s a great story where Lane Kiffin, as a player, threw a fit because the coach was giving all the QB reps to David Carr in practice. Kiffin stormed off the field. The coach went after him and possibly after a phone call from Monte Kiffin, Lane returned to practice as the new WR coach.
Perhaps we’ll fire Tucker and replace him with Bonner?
Perhaps we’ll fire Tucker and replace him with Bonner?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
What’s Derrvin Speight up to?Dwigt wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:24 pmKnowing Chuckie, he would be ready.TrueBigBlue wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:21 pmFire tucker, but what do we have on a short week to have ready? Turbin and Chuckie coach the offense?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
Will the new OC have better WR's?
I'm not impressed with Tucker this year at all, but our receivers flat out don't get open.
I'm not impressed with Tucker this year at all, but our receivers flat out don't get open.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
I get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pmDo people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
And last year?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pmI get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pmDo people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
Coordinators are easy to fire, but it's often not the coordinator who is the problem. HC's are harder to fire.
Anderson needs to put on his big-boy pants and stop blaming his assistants and the players for things.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
Different players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pmAnd last year?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pmI get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pmDo people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
My take is that coordinators are easy to blame and fire. Anderson needs to be the HC.AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pmDifferent players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pmAnd last year?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pmI get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pmDo people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
CaptainChaos wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:13 pmI say he needs to be put on a short leash
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
What schemes work well when receivers can't get open?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pmDifferent players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pmAnd last year?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pmI get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pmDo people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
Attack puntsFloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑September 25th, 2022, 5:44 amWhat schemes work well when receivers can't get open?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pmDifferent players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pmAnd last year?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pmI get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pmDo people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
In theory you can scheme guys open if you adapt the scheme to them. If you have a scheme where you plug guys into slots and hope for the best then you get what we’ve seen thus far.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑September 25th, 2022, 5:44 amWhat schemes work well when receivers can't get open?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pmDifferent players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pmAnd last year?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pmI get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pmDo people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
If I'm better than you, you aren't going to get open.Hoot wrote: ↑September 25th, 2022, 7:12 amIn theory you can scheme guys open if you adapt the scheme to them. If you have a scheme where you plug guys into slots and hope for the best then you get what we’ve seen thus far.FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑September 25th, 2022, 5:44 amWhat schemes work well when receivers can't get open?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pmDifferent players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pmAnd last year?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pmI get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pmDo people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
It could be argued that we have the worst WR group in the nation. Scheme all you want, it isn't going to work out.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
Where is Kyle Cefalo in all of this? I thought he was supposed to be a WR guru, sort of a 'receivers whisperer'? No?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
If I had three fringe NFL guys in one season I would look like an incredible coach too.FloridaAggie13 wrote:Where is Kyle Cefalo in all of this? I thought he was supposed to be a WR guru, sort of a 'receivers whisperer'? No?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
I would love to know why Otto Tia can’t see the field. Full disclosure, I know Otto very well and have bias. The kid is a physical specimen and looks like a tight end end lining up as a wide out. He is a tough and physical kid that I think could make a difference. Again I’m biased. Aggies22 has said the staff is high on him but he didn’t get a single offensive play last night, special teams only. Also, I could not find the Alabama transfer on the sidelines last night, was he there?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
Ding!!!Dwigt wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:24 pmKnowing Chuckie, he would be ready.TrueBigBlue wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:21 pmFire tucker, but what do we have on a short week to have ready? Turbin and Chuckie coach the offense?
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Either way he answered in the affirmative which is good!Stockypoo2212 wrote: ↑September 25th, 2022, 9:27 amAre you agreeing? Or do you know something we don't?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
5 or 6 more embarrassing losses and we’ll have to take a look at it some more and see what the tape tells us.Machismo wrote:CaptainChaos wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:13 pmI say he needs to be put on a short leash
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
a fly, or go route - if you can throw the ball for the receiver to run under, instead of throwing it 3-10 yards out of boundsFloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑September 25th, 2022, 5:44 amWhat schemes work well when receivers can't get open?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pmDifferent players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pmAnd last year?AgMac wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pmI get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.brownjeans wrote: ↑September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pmDo people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?
Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
a slant pattern - if you can do the same
a back-shoulder pass, or a hook- if you can throw the ball to the back shoulder and not to the CB/S
Bonnner's accuracy has always been pretty off, DT (and less so Bowling) made some spectacular catches to cover those shortcomings.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?
How come everything has to be a fly or go route? Let's run some crossing rub screens like byu used to run when they had slow receivers. Why not drag the tight end out behind the linebackers? UNLV showed us how effective that can be. Try a delayed screen when you know pressure is coming instead if an off tackle run. Put the running back in a wheel route. Not sure Tucker knows what a wheel route is. A couple of the passes that McGriff caught, he actually curled to the inside. Let's do more of that. Sorry, just my rambling thoughts.