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Time to fire the OC?

Post by pcaggie » September 24th, 2022, 9:11 pm

Boise did it, do we need to do it? Doesn’t he also hold responsibility of keeping the QB in? And the call playing?

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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by slcagg » September 24th, 2022, 9:12 pm

I would assume Blake is giving direction on bonner



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by FloridaAggie13 » September 24th, 2022, 9:13 pm

Play calling is atrocious, especially the run up the gut on 4th and 3 inside the 15 yard line with the game still in the balance.

That said, our receivers don't get any separation at all.



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by Mogy21 » September 24th, 2022, 9:13 pm

If I’m Tucker do I bench my boss’s son? It’s a no win situation.



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by CaptainChaos » September 24th, 2022, 9:13 pm

I say he needs to be put on a short leash


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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by ineptimusprime » September 24th, 2022, 9:14 pm

Tucker should have been fired after Weber, honestly.



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by TrueBigBlue » September 24th, 2022, 9:21 pm

Fire tucker, but what do we have on a short week to have ready? Turbin and Chuckie coach the offense?



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by Dwigt » September 24th, 2022, 9:24 pm

TrueBigBlue wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:21 pm
Fire tucker, but what do we have on a short week to have ready? Turbin and Chuckie coach the offense?
Knowing Chuckie, he would be ready.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by Hoot » September 24th, 2022, 9:26 pm

There’s a great story where Lane Kiffin, as a player, threw a fit because the coach was giving all the QB reps to David Carr in practice. Kiffin stormed off the field. The coach went after him and possibly after a phone call from Monte Kiffin, Lane returned to practice as the new WR coach.

Perhaps we’ll fire Tucker and replace him with Bonner?


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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by Hoot » September 24th, 2022, 9:26 pm

Dwigt wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:24 pm
TrueBigBlue wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:21 pm
Fire tucker, but what do we have on a short week to have ready? Turbin and Chuckie coach the offense?
Knowing Chuckie, he would be ready.
What’s Derrvin Speight up to?


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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by FloridaAggie13 » September 24th, 2022, 9:43 pm

Will the new OC have better WR's?

I'm not impressed with Tucker this year at all, but our receivers flat out don't get open.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by pcaggie » September 24th, 2022, 9:51 pm

Did he recruit the WR? Yes so there that



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by brownjeans » September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pm

Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?

Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by AgMac » September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pm

brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pm
Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?

Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
I get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by brownjeans » September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pm

AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pm
Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?

Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
I get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.
And last year?

Coordinators are easy to fire, but it's often not the coordinator who is the problem. HC's are harder to fire.
Anderson needs to put on his big-boy pants and stop blaming his assistants and the players for things.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by AgMac » September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pm

brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pm
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pm
Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?

Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
I get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.
And last year?
Different players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by brownjeans » September 24th, 2022, 10:01 pm

AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pm
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pm
Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?

Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
I get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.
And last year?
Different players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.
My take is that coordinators are easy to blame and fire. Anderson needs to be the HC.



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by Machismo » September 24th, 2022, 10:02 pm

CaptainChaos wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:13 pm
I say he needs to be put on a short leash


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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by arkstfan » September 24th, 2022, 10:10 pm

Blake fired his DC in 2020 after game 5 when we were 3-2. Went 1-5 rest of the way. I’d be surprised if he did another mid season firing.



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by FloridaAggie13 » September 25th, 2022, 5:44 am

AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pm
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pm
Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?

Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
I get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.
And last year?
Different players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.
What schemes work well when receivers can't get open?



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by TrueBigBlue » September 25th, 2022, 6:39 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
September 25th, 2022, 5:44 am
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pm
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pm
Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?

Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
I get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.
And last year?
Different players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.
What schemes work well when receivers can't get open?
Attack punts
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by Hoot » September 25th, 2022, 7:12 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
September 25th, 2022, 5:44 am
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pm
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pm
Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?

Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
I get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.
And last year?
Different players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.
What schemes work well when receivers can't get open?
In theory you can scheme guys open if you adapt the scheme to them. If you have a scheme where you plug guys into slots and hope for the best then you get what we’ve seen thus far.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by FloridaAggie13 » September 25th, 2022, 7:26 am

Hoot wrote:
September 25th, 2022, 7:12 am
FloridaAggie13 wrote:
September 25th, 2022, 5:44 am
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pm
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pm
Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?

Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
I get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.
And last year?
Different players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.
What schemes work well when receivers can't get open?
In theory you can scheme guys open if you adapt the scheme to them. If you have a scheme where you plug guys into slots and hope for the best then you get what we’ve seen thus far.
If I'm better than you, you aren't going to get open.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by SaintAggie » September 25th, 2022, 7:46 am

It could be argued that we have the worst WR group in the nation. Scheme all you want, it isn't going to work out.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by FloridaAggie13 » September 25th, 2022, 7:48 am

Where is Kyle Cefalo in all of this? I thought he was supposed to be a WR guru, sort of a 'receivers whisperer'? No?
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by tysteve20 » September 25th, 2022, 8:23 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote:Where is Kyle Cefalo in all of this? I thought he was supposed to be a WR guru, sort of a 'receivers whisperer'? No?
If I had three fringe NFL guys in one season I would look like an incredible coach too.
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by FloridaAggie13 » September 25th, 2022, 8:24 am

tysteve20 wrote:
September 25th, 2022, 8:23 am
FloridaAggie13 wrote:Where is Kyle Cefalo in all of this? I thought he was supposed to be a WR guru, sort of a 'receivers whisperer'? No?
If I had three fringe NFL guys in one season I would look like an incredible coach too.
In the end, there is a reason Tucker, Banda, Cefalo and BA were available. ;)



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by FeartheFro » September 25th, 2022, 8:35 am

I would love to know why Otto Tia can’t see the field. Full disclosure, I know Otto very well and have bias. The kid is a physical specimen and looks like a tight end end lining up as a wide out. He is a tough and physical kid that I think could make a difference. Again I’m biased. Aggies22 has said the staff is high on him but he didn’t get a single offensive play last night, special teams only. Also, I could not find the Alabama transfer on the sidelines last night, was he there?


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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by aggies22 » September 25th, 2022, 9:20 am

Dwigt wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:24 pm
TrueBigBlue wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:21 pm
Fire tucker, but what do we have on a short week to have ready? Turbin and Chuckie coach the offense?
Knowing Chuckie, he would be ready.
Ding!!!
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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by Stockypoo2212 » September 25th, 2022, 9:27 am

aggies22 wrote:
September 25th, 2022, 9:20 am
Dwigt wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:24 pm
TrueBigBlue wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:21 pm
Fire tucker, but what do we have on a short week to have ready? Turbin and Chuckie coach the offense?
Knowing Chuckie, he would be ready.
Ding!!!
Are you agreeing? Or do you know something we don't?



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by Hoot » September 25th, 2022, 10:40 am

Stockypoo2212 wrote:
September 25th, 2022, 9:27 am
aggies22 wrote:
September 25th, 2022, 9:20 am
Dwigt wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:24 pm
TrueBigBlue wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:21 pm
Fire tucker, but what do we have on a short week to have ready? Turbin and Chuckie coach the offense?
Knowing Chuckie, he would be ready.
Ding!!!
Are you agreeing? Or do you know something we don't?
Either way he answered in the affirmative which is good!


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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by CaptainChaos » September 25th, 2022, 11:52 am

Machismo wrote:
CaptainChaos wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:13 pm
I say he needs to be put on a short leash


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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by AGinNEIowa » September 25th, 2022, 1:06 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
September 25th, 2022, 5:44 am
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:59 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:57 pm
AgMac wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:56 pm
brownjeans wrote:
September 24th, 2022, 9:52 pm
Do people suddenly think Tucker forgot how to do his job this summer?

Is this his fault? How about last year's offense; was that his fault too?
I get what you're saying, but the play calling has been objectively awful.
And last year?
Different players. Wait, is your take that Tucker shouldn't adjust his scheme to better fit what we have and don't have? Interesting take.
What schemes work well when receivers can't get open?
a fly, or go route - if you can throw the ball for the receiver to run under, instead of throwing it 3-10 yards out of bounds
a slant pattern - if you can do the same
a back-shoulder pass, or a hook- if you can throw the ball to the back shoulder and not to the CB/S

Bonnner's accuracy has always been pretty off, DT (and less so Bowling) made some spectacular catches to cover those shortcomings.



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

Post by GUS » September 25th, 2022, 1:28 pm

How come everything has to be a fly or go route? Let's run some crossing rub screens like byu used to run when they had slow receivers. Why not drag the tight end out behind the linebackers? UNLV showed us how effective that can be. Try a delayed screen when you know pressure is coming instead if an off tackle run. Put the running back in a wheel route. Not sure Tucker knows what a wheel route is. A couple of the passes that McGriff caught, he actually curled to the inside. Let's do more of that. Sorry, just my rambling thoughts.



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Re: Time to fire the OC?

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