Bobby with the big hit

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » October 5th, 2022, 10:15 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:49 pm
In California, someone could punch you and break their hand. Then sue you for the damages and have a pretty good shot at winning.

And so it goes in the People's Republic.

UStateTim · Post by **UStateTim** » October 5th, 2022, 11:10 pm

The Old Bull wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:04 pm

UStateTim wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 7:05 pm
I bet the activist group told him to do it just for the publicity it would bring to their cause. There’s no way he wins this case against Bobby.
If I were a betting man I would put money on the activist winning. When I first saw this I told my wife he would end up getting charged. She said “no way” It really just depends on who has the best lawyers and the best relationship with the judge. Some of these activist groups are pretty well connected. I have seen cases worse than this right here in cache valley succeed.

I was listening to a national radio program and one of the hosts said he thought the guy had a pretty good case and I agree with him. Bobby has two problems. It isn’t his his job…. He isn’t a security gaurd. He is a professional athlete and he was in full pads.

Not that I agree with it but as a former part time resident of Berkeley I think this guy has a pretty good chance of getting paid…. Especially in San Francisco.

I’d be interested to see the cases you’ve seen in Logan that prevailed and see how similar it is to this. Does the trespasser not assume the risk for being on the field?

Post by **Aglicious** » October 5th, 2022, 11:13 pm

It's not like this is the first time an athlete has helped security out with someone illegally entering the field or court of play. It has happened numerous times in just about every sport and I dont recall a single athlete ever being charged with anything. Why would this be any different?

Tetonkatest · Post by **Tetonkatest** » October 5th, 2022, 11:50 pm

UStateTim wrote: ↑
October 3rd, 2022, 7:35 pm

This was amazing!!!

hickaggie · Post by **hickaggie** » October 6th, 2022, 10:06 am

The Old Bull wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:05 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 8:56 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:How in the hell can you press charges after you were trespassing? The guy is lucky Wagner did not hit him with full force.
It’s California.

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I’ve seen something similar to this happen in Logan… actually much worse.

Bobby took 3 half speed steps and while he lowers the shoulder a bit he doesn't hit him with it. He just sticks out his forearm. Really the guy ran into it more than Bobby running into him. Blame the guy for running too high, lol. At worst he has a bit of a sore shoulder where he landed on it.

Any one who has played any football on here could have easily knocked the wind of out him with a bit of an earhole crack back right there, even though it wasn't a total blindside angle. Bobby on the other hand could have about killed him had he wanted too by going full speed and lowering that shoulder. Nothing to see here. He is an NFL employee using reasonable force to restrain a trespasser.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » October 6th, 2022, 10:13 am

I've seen these idiots chain themselves to the basketball hoop support (the padded support under the basket). If it was me in charge, I would have said "ignore them and play on". If they happen to get run into or an errant pass his them in the face - that's on them.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » October 6th, 2022, 10:54 am

The Old Bull wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:04 pm

UStateTim wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 7:05 pm
I bet the activist group told him to do it just for the publicity it would bring to their cause. There’s no way he wins this case against Bobby.
If I were a betting man I would put money on the activist winning. When I first saw this I told my wife he would end up getting charged. She said “no way” It really just depends on who has the best lawyers and the best relationship with the judge. Some of these activist groups are pretty well connected. I have seen cases worse than this right here in cache valley succeed.

I was listening to a national radio program and one of the hosts said he thought the guy had a pretty good case and I agree with him. Bobby has two problems. It isn’t his his job…. He isn’t a security gaurd. He is a professional athlete and he was in full pads.

Not that I agree with it but as a former part time resident of Berkeley I think this guy has a pretty good chance of getting paid…. Especially in San Francisco.

1. The Stadium isn't located in SF (City/County)
2. The guy was running towards/near BWagz, he was just defending himself, he didn't know what the guy's intentions were, completely appropriate if someone invaded your workspace and threatened you with a smoke bomb!

tipitup · Post by **tipitup** » October 6th, 2022, 10:57 am

ViAggie wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2022, 10:54 am

The Old Bull wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:04 pm

UStateTim wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 7:05 pm
I bet the activist group told him to do it just for the publicity it would bring to their cause. There’s no way he wins this case against Bobby.
If I were a betting man I would put money on the activist winning. When I first saw this I told my wife he would end up getting charged. She said “no way” It really just depends on who has the best lawyers and the best relationship with the judge. Some of these activist groups are pretty well connected. I have seen cases worse than this right here in cache valley succeed.

I was listening to a national radio program and one of the hosts said he thought the guy had a pretty good case and I agree with him. Bobby has two problems. It isn’t his his job…. He isn’t a security gaurd. He is a professional athlete and he was in full pads.

Not that I agree with it but as a former part time resident of Berkeley I think this guy has a pretty good chance of getting paid…. Especially in San Francisco.
1. The Stadium isn't located in SF (City/County)
2. The guy was running towards/near BWagz, he was just defending himself, he didn't know what the guy's intentions were, completely appropriate if someone invaded your workspace and threatened you with a smoke bomb!

what has happened in the past when a protester/trespasser is jacked up by a player or security, did they win the lawsuits? i'm sure they sued but did any win?

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » October 6th, 2022, 11:34 am

I just rewatched the video, the guy can be seen running full speed towards the LA sideline, BWagz gives a short chase but helps security neutralize the guy. No jury is going to side with this moron

El Sapo · Post by **El Sapo** » October 6th, 2022, 11:43 am

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:09 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 11:09 am
It's a huge pig "plant" not a farm in any way you would picture a farm. I'm really surprised these activists could get in. The plant is pretty secure because they need to be really careful about sanitation etc., because the pigs are susceptible to human illnesses. I have family in Beaver County who have been inside, and they had to wear hazmat suits. I asked if it was really bad inside and they said "no, it's shockingly clean, the suits were to protect the pigs from us."
Pigs are somewhat susceptible to a couple human illness - but the biosecurity pig farmers are concerned about are porcine viruses (PED and PRRS) which are rampant in the US, and got much worse in 2021.
Those two viruses can be picked up by walking through a convenience store (IIRC) up to 60 minutes after a carrier did. That carrier could have come from a finisher barn or another sow facility and the virus clung to pants, shoes, hair, etc.
Some strains of PRRS (porcine respiratory and reproductive syndrome) can wipe out a whole sow barn and be carried through weanlings into finish barns and cause reduce growth up to death in older hogs.
Pig Farmers out here don't require HazMat - but you do shower before entry AND upon departure from a Sow Barn - then minimum 24 hours before even going to a different sow barn, request you don't wear any of the same clothes (please change underwear and wear different footwear too)

As bad as all of that is - African Swine Fever is feared above all. I know vets who have been going to Europe to do research on stopping the virus, how to kill it when it kills a pig, how long it will live in a dead pig, etc. They quarantine before leaving the continent to return to US for (IIRC) 7 days so as to not bring it to US, which still has no suspected cases.

TL:DR - Pigs at much higher health risk to Porcine viruses than any human illness, which pose only minimal risk.
in case you're wondering, I've left the trailer industry and work for a large PIG FARMER

Thanks for clearing up my "city boy" take on the pig industry!

Since the protesters are suing BWags for damages, what do you think the potential $ damage those pig nappers did to the Milford plant running around inside without taking proper sanitation measures?

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » October 6th, 2022, 3:15 pm

Bobby could have killed the guy if he had unloaded on him as he would during a game. Concussion, brain damage, broken sternum, broken collar bone, cracked ribs, the whole works.

The twerp got off really easy.

Post by **AGinNEIowa** » October 6th, 2022, 6:59 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2022, 11:43 am

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:09 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 11:09 am
It's a huge pig "plant" not a farm in any way you would picture a farm. I'm really surprised these activists could get in. The plant is pretty secure because they need to be really careful about sanitation etc., because the pigs are susceptible to human illnesses. I have family in Beaver County who have been inside, and they had to wear hazmat suits. I asked if it was really bad inside and they said "no, it's shockingly clean, the suits were to protect the pigs from us."
Pigs are somewhat susceptible to a couple human illness - but the biosecurity pig farmers are concerned about are porcine viruses (PED and PRRS) which are rampant in the US, and got much worse in 2021.
Those two viruses can be picked up by walking through a convenience store (IIRC) up to 60 minutes after a carrier did. That carrier could have come from a finisher barn or another sow facility and the virus clung to pants, shoes, hair, etc.
Some strains of PRRS (porcine respiratory and reproductive syndrome) can wipe out a whole sow barn and be carried through weanlings into finish barns and cause reduce growth up to death in older hogs.
Pig Farmers out here don't require HazMat - but you do shower before entry AND upon departure from a Sow Barn - then minimum 24 hours before even going to a different sow barn, request you don't wear any of the same clothes (please change underwear and wear different footwear too)

As bad as all of that is - African Swine Fever is feared above all. I know vets who have been going to Europe to do research on stopping the virus, how to kill it when it kills a pig, how long it will live in a dead pig, etc. They quarantine before leaving the continent to return to US for (IIRC) 7 days so as to not bring it to US, which still has no suspected cases.

TL:DR - Pigs at much higher health risk to Porcine viruses than any human illness, which pose only minimal risk.
in case you're wondering, I've left the trailer industry and work for a large PIG FARMER
Thanks for clearing up my "city boy" take on the pig industry!

Since the protesters are suing BWags for damages, what do you think the potential $ damage those pig nappers did to the Milford plant running around inside without taking proper sanitation measures?

NO problem - I'm also a city boy despite having lived in super rural Iowa for 23 years, I still haven't grown accustomed to driving 2 miles on a gravel road to get to work for this job.

Cost depends on the full situation. Was it a sow barn? Was it feeder pigs? How many animals were impacted? Did they get sick enough to cull the herd?
In neIowa, it costs about $0.40 per pound to grow a gilt to breed weight (300lbs), plus about 200 to buy the gilt(usually about 50 lbs). Gilts get pregnant about 80% of the time that they're first bred, so to replace 1,000 sows you're buying about 1,250 gilts =$25k then feeding them to weight is 1250*250*.4=$125k - so 1,000 sows replacement cost is likely $150k
THEN -
you lose possibly 75% of the culled sows offspring - a litter usually yields 12-15 piglets which live to weaning, about 1/4 the herd is weaning at any given time, 1/2 are pregnant and 1/4 are between nursing and new breed attempt - so out of 1,000 sows you had 3,000 suckling piglets valued at $40 so you lost 2250*$90k in value - plus they profit about $1-5 at market weight, so another $4,500 (assuming$2/pig)
You do get some sales off the culled herd - but if they're too sick you cant even get that - and lots will die before you can market them if it's PRRS (if they deliver, they'll get vaginal prolapse and then you likely have to euthanize).

I believe Smithfield's Sow barns out in Milford can have 15,000 sows -but I can't verify that.

Pig Trivia!
what is sow meat used for?
Bonus question!
what is boar meat used for, and why?

sam tingey · Post by **sam tingey** » October 7th, 2022, 2:23 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2022, 6:59 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2022, 11:43 am

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:09 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 11:09 am
It's a huge pig "plant" not a farm in any way you would picture a farm. I'm really surprised these activists could get in. The plant is pretty secure because they need to be really careful about sanitation etc., because the pigs are susceptible to human illnesses. I have family in Beaver County who have been inside, and they had to wear hazmat suits. I asked if it was really bad inside and they said "no, it's shockingly clean, the suits were to protect the pigs from us."
Pigs are somewhat susceptible to a couple human illness - but the biosecurity pig farmers are concerned about are porcine viruses (PED and PRRS) which are rampant in the US, and got much worse in 2021.
Those two viruses can be picked up by walking through a convenience store (IIRC) up to 60 minutes after a carrier did. That carrier could have come from a finisher barn or another sow facility and the virus clung to pants, shoes, hair, etc.
Some strains of PRRS (porcine respiratory and reproductive syndrome) can wipe out a whole sow barn and be carried through weanlings into finish barns and cause reduce growth up to death in older hogs.
Pig Farmers out here don't require HazMat - but you do shower before entry AND upon departure from a Sow Barn - then minimum 24 hours before even going to a different sow barn, request you don't wear any of the same clothes (please change underwear and wear different footwear too)

As bad as all of that is - African Swine Fever is feared above all. I know vets who have been going to Europe to do research on stopping the virus, how to kill it when it kills a pig, how long it will live in a dead pig, etc. They quarantine before leaving the continent to return to US for (IIRC) 7 days so as to not bring it to US, which still has no suspected cases.

TL:DR - Pigs at much higher health risk to Porcine viruses than any human illness, which pose only minimal risk.
in case you're wondering, I've left the trailer industry and work for a large PIG FARMER
Thanks for clearing up my "city boy" take on the pig industry!

Since the protesters are suing BWags for damages, what do you think the potential $ damage those pig nappers did to the Milford plant running around inside without taking proper sanitation measures?
NO problem - I'm also a city boy despite having lived in super rural Iowa for 23 years, I still haven't grown accustomed to driving 2 miles on a gravel road to get to work for this job.

Cost depends on the full situation. Was it a sow barn? Was it feeder pigs? How many animals were impacted? Did they get sick enough to cull the herd?
In neIowa, it costs about $0.40 per pound to grow a gilt to breed weight (300lbs), plus about 200 to buy the gilt(usually about 50 lbs). Gilts get pregnant about 80% of the time that they're first bred, so to replace 1,000 sows you're buying about 1,250 gilts =$25k then feeding them to weight is 1250*250*.4=$125k - so 1,000 sows replacement cost is likely $150k
THEN -
you lose possibly 75% of the culled sows offspring - a litter usually yields 12-15 piglets which live to weaning, about 1/4 the herd is weaning at any given time, 1/2 are pregnant and 1/4 are between nursing and new breed attempt - so out of 1,000 sows you had 3,000 suckling piglets valued at $40 so you lost 2250*$90k in value - plus they profit about $1-5 at market weight, so another $4,500 (assuming$2/pig)
You do get some sales off the culled herd - but if they're too sick you cant even get that - and lots will die before you can market them if it's PRRS (if they deliver, they'll get vaginal prolapse and then you likely have to euthanize).

I believe Smithfield's Sow barns out in Milford can have 15,000 sows -but I can't verify that.

Pig Trivia!
what is sow meat used for?
Bonus question!
what is boar meat used for, and why?

This has to be about the most Aggie exchange on this board.

sow meat = sausage
boar meat = protein shakes?

Post by **AGinNEIowa** » October 7th, 2022, 9:47 pm

sam tingey wrote: ↑
October 7th, 2022, 2:23 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2022, 6:59 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2022, 11:43 am

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:09 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 11:09 am
It's a huge pig "plant" not a farm in any way you would picture a farm. I'm really surprised these activists could get in. The plant is pretty secure because they need to be really careful about sanitation etc., because the pigs are susceptible to human illnesses. I have family in Beaver County who have been inside, and they had to wear hazmat suits. I asked if it was really bad inside and they said "no, it's shockingly clean, the suits were to protect the pigs from us."
Pigs are somewhat susceptible to a couple human illness - but the biosecurity pig farmers are concerned about are porcine viruses (PED and PRRS) which are rampant in the US, and got much worse in 2021.
Those two viruses can be picked up by walking through a convenience store (IIRC) up to 60 minutes after a carrier did. That carrier could have come from a finisher barn or another sow facility and the virus clung to pants, shoes, hair, etc.
Some strains of PRRS (porcine respiratory and reproductive syndrome) can wipe out a whole sow barn and be carried through weanlings into finish barns and cause reduce growth up to death in older hogs.
Pig Farmers out here don't require HazMat - but you do shower before entry AND upon departure from a Sow Barn - then minimum 24 hours before even going to a different sow barn, request you don't wear any of the same clothes (please change underwear and wear different footwear too)

As bad as all of that is - African Swine Fever is feared above all. I know vets who have been going to Europe to do research on stopping the virus, how to kill it when it kills a pig, how long it will live in a dead pig, etc. They quarantine before leaving the continent to return to US for (IIRC) 7 days so as to not bring it to US, which still has no suspected cases.

TL:DR - Pigs at much higher health risk to Porcine viruses than any human illness, which pose only minimal risk.
in case you're wondering, I've left the trailer industry and work for a large PIG FARMER
Thanks for clearing up my "city boy" take on the pig industry!

Since the protesters are suing BWags for damages, what do you think the potential $ damage those pig nappers did to the Milford plant running around inside without taking proper sanitation measures?
NO problem - I'm also a city boy despite having lived in super rural Iowa for 23 years, I still haven't grown accustomed to driving 2 miles on a gravel road to get to work for this job.

Cost depends on the full situation. Was it a sow barn? Was it feeder pigs? How many animals were impacted? Did they get sick enough to cull the herd?
In neIowa, it costs about $0.40 per pound to grow a gilt to breed weight (300lbs), plus about 200 to buy the gilt(usually about 50 lbs). Gilts get pregnant about 80% of the time that they're first bred, so to replace 1,000 sows you're buying about 1,250 gilts =$25k then feeding them to weight is 1250*250*.4=$125k - so 1,000 sows replacement cost is likely $150k
THEN -
you lose possibly 75% of the culled sows offspring - a litter usually yields 12-15 piglets which live to weaning, about 1/4 the herd is weaning at any given time, 1/2 are pregnant and 1/4 are between nursing and new breed attempt - so out of 1,000 sows you had 3,000 suckling piglets valued at $40 so you lost 2250*$90k in value - plus they profit about $1-5 at market weight, so another $4,500 (assuming$2/pig)
You do get some sales off the culled herd - but if they're too sick you cant even get that - and lots will die before you can market them if it's PRRS (if they deliver, they'll get vaginal prolapse and then you likely have to euthanize).

I believe Smithfield's Sow barns out in Milford can have 15,000 sows -but I can't verify that.

Pig Trivia!
what is sow meat used for?
Bonus question!
what is boar meat used for, and why?
This has to be about the most Aggie exchange on this board.

sow meat = sausage
boar meat = protein shakes?

I considered whether it should be continued with a couple of my comments -but yup, we are Aggie fans aren't we!

sow meat = sausage. we've had to cull three barns (about 17k sows) this year they mostly go to Jimmy Dean's plant in Tennessee somewhere

boar meat = nope! think pizza....

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » October 7th, 2022, 9:58 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 7th, 2022, 9:47 pm

sam tingey wrote: ↑
October 7th, 2022, 2:23 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2022, 6:59 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2022, 11:43 am

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:09 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 11:09 am
It's a huge pig "plant" not a farm in any way you would picture a farm. I'm really surprised these activists could get in. The plant is pretty secure because they need to be really careful about sanitation etc., because the pigs are susceptible to human illnesses. I have family in Beaver County who have been inside, and they had to wear hazmat suits. I asked if it was really bad inside and they said "no, it's shockingly clean, the suits were to protect the pigs from us."
Pigs are somewhat susceptible to a couple human illness - but the biosecurity pig farmers are concerned about are porcine viruses (PED and PRRS) which are rampant in the US, and got much worse in 2021.
Those two viruses can be picked up by walking through a convenience store (IIRC) up to 60 minutes after a carrier did. That carrier could have come from a finisher barn or another sow facility and the virus clung to pants, shoes, hair, etc.
Some strains of PRRS (porcine respiratory and reproductive syndrome) can wipe out a whole sow barn and be carried through weanlings into finish barns and cause reduce growth up to death in older hogs.
Pig Farmers out here don't require HazMat - but you do shower before entry AND upon departure from a Sow Barn - then minimum 24 hours before even going to a different sow barn, request you don't wear any of the same clothes (please change underwear and wear different footwear too)

As bad as all of that is - African Swine Fever is feared above all. I know vets who have been going to Europe to do research on stopping the virus, how to kill it when it kills a pig, how long it will live in a dead pig, etc. They quarantine before leaving the continent to return to US for (IIRC) 7 days so as to not bring it to US, which still has no suspected cases.

TL:DR - Pigs at much higher health risk to Porcine viruses than any human illness, which pose only minimal risk.
in case you're wondering, I've left the trailer industry and work for a large PIG FARMER
Thanks for clearing up my "city boy" take on the pig industry!

Since the protesters are suing BWags for damages, what do you think the potential $ damage those pig nappers did to the Milford plant running around inside without taking proper sanitation measures?
NO problem - I'm also a city boy despite having lived in super rural Iowa for 23 years, I still haven't grown accustomed to driving 2 miles on a gravel road to get to work for this job.

Cost depends on the full situation. Was it a sow barn? Was it feeder pigs? How many animals were impacted? Did they get sick enough to cull the herd?
In neIowa, it costs about $0.40 per pound to grow a gilt to breed weight (300lbs), plus about 200 to buy the gilt(usually about 50 lbs). Gilts get pregnant about 80% of the time that they're first bred, so to replace 1,000 sows you're buying about 1,250 gilts =$25k then feeding them to weight is 1250*250*.4=$125k - so 1,000 sows replacement cost is likely $150k
THEN -
you lose possibly 75% of the culled sows offspring - a litter usually yields 12-15 piglets which live to weaning, about 1/4 the herd is weaning at any given time, 1/2 are pregnant and 1/4 are between nursing and new breed attempt - so out of 1,000 sows you had 3,000 suckling piglets valued at $40 so you lost 2250*$90k in value - plus they profit about $1-5 at market weight, so another $4,500 (assuming$2/pig)
You do get some sales off the culled herd - but if they're too sick you cant even get that - and lots will die before you can market them if it's PRRS (if they deliver, they'll get vaginal prolapse and then you likely have to euthanize).

I believe Smithfield's Sow barns out in Milford can have 15,000 sows -but I can't verify that.

Pig Trivia!
what is sow meat used for?
Bonus question!
what is boar meat used for, and why?
This has to be about the most Aggie exchange on this board.

sow meat = sausage
boar meat = protein shakes?
I considered whether it should be continued with a couple of my comments -but yup, we are Aggie fans aren't we!

sow meat = sausage. we've had to cull three barns (about 17k sows) this year they mostly go to Jimmy Dean's plant in Tennessee somewhere

boar meat = nope! think pizza....

That’s a long haul for those piggies!

Seriously love hearing hearing others on this board who are involved in ag.

Post by **AGinNEIowa** » October 7th, 2022, 10:24 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 7th, 2022, 9:58 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 7th, 2022, 9:47 pm

sam tingey wrote: ↑
October 7th, 2022, 2:23 pm

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2022, 6:59 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2022, 11:43 am

AGinNEIowa wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 9:09 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2022, 11:09 am
It's a huge pig "plant" not a farm in any way you would picture a farm. I'm really surprised these activists could get in. The plant is pretty secure because they need to be really careful about sanitation etc., because the pigs are susceptible to human illnesses. I have family in Beaver County who have been inside, and they had to wear hazmat suits. I asked if it was really bad inside and they said "no, it's shockingly clean, the suits were to protect the pigs from us."
Pigs are somewhat susceptible to a couple human illness - but the biosecurity pig farmers are concerned about are porcine viruses (PED and PRRS) which are rampant in the US, and got much worse in 2021.
Those two viruses can be picked up by walking through a convenience store (IIRC) up to 60 minutes after a carrier did. That carrier could have come from a finisher barn or another sow facility and the virus clung to pants, shoes, hair, etc.
Some strains of PRRS (porcine respiratory and reproductive syndrome) can wipe out a whole sow barn and be carried through weanlings into finish barns and cause reduce growth up to death in older hogs.
Pig Farmers out here don't require HazMat - but you do shower before entry AND upon departure from a Sow Barn - then minimum 24 hours before even going to a different sow barn, request you don't wear any of the same clothes (please change underwear and wear different footwear too)

As bad as all of that is - African Swine Fever is feared above all. I know vets who have been going to Europe to do research on stopping the virus, how to kill it when it kills a pig, how long it will live in a dead pig, etc. They quarantine before leaving the continent to return to US for (IIRC) 7 days so as to not bring it to US, which still has no suspected cases.

TL:DR - Pigs at much higher health risk to Porcine viruses than any human illness, which pose only minimal risk.
in case you're wondering, I've left the trailer industry and work for a large PIG FARMER
Thanks for clearing up my "city boy" take on the pig industry!

Since the protesters are suing BWags for damages, what do you think the potential $ damage those pig nappers did to the Milford plant running around inside without taking proper sanitation measures?
NO problem - I'm also a city boy despite having lived in super rural Iowa for 23 years, I still haven't grown accustomed to driving 2 miles on a gravel road to get to work for this job.

Cost depends on the full situation. Was it a sow barn? Was it feeder pigs? How many animals were impacted? Did they get sick enough to cull the herd?
In neIowa, it costs about $0.40 per pound to grow a gilt to breed weight (300lbs), plus about 200 to buy the gilt(usually about 50 lbs). Gilts get pregnant about 80% of the time that they're first bred, so to replace 1,000 sows you're buying about 1,250 gilts =$25k then feeding them to weight is 1250*250*.4=$125k - so 1,000 sows replacement cost is likely $150k
THEN -
you lose possibly 75% of the culled sows offspring - a litter usually yields 12-15 piglets which live to weaning, about 1/4 the herd is weaning at any given time, 1/2 are pregnant and 1/4 are between nursing and new breed attempt - so out of 1,000 sows you had 3,000 suckling piglets valued at $40 so you lost 2250*$90k in value - plus they profit about $1-5 at market weight, so another $4,500 (assuming$2/pig)
You do get some sales off the culled herd - but if they're too sick you cant even get that - and lots will die before you can market them if it's PRRS (if they deliver, they'll get vaginal prolapse and then you likely have to euthanize).

I believe Smithfield's Sow barns out in Milford can have 15,000 sows -but I can't verify that.

Pig Trivia!
what is sow meat used for?
Bonus question!
what is boar meat used for, and why?

This has to be about the most Aggie exchange on this board.

sow meat = sausage
boar meat = protein shakes?
I considered whether it should be continued with a couple of my comments -but yup, we are Aggie fans aren't we!

sow meat = sausage. we've had to cull three barns (about 17k sows) this year they mostly go to Jimmy Dean's plant in Tennessee somewhere

boar meat = nope! think pizza....
That’s a long haul for those piggies!

Seriously love hearing hearing others on this board who are involved in ag.

when I worked at Tri-Miller out in Hyrum in the '90s, we brought in hogs from Kansas and Nebraska

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