Remember when USU had good basketball teams that were efficient, fun to watch, and win games?

I believe the senior class that included Wesley, Newbold, and Pooh Williams lost one game at home (to st. Marys) in their four years here.

I remember when Andrew Bogut and the Utes came in to the Spectrum and got beat by 26.

Good times.

Wow! Talk about sad. Too bad it's on TV.

Remember when a lot of you wanted to run Stew off and we said to be careful what you wished for?

dyedblue wrote:Remember when a lot of you wanted to run Stew off and we said to be careful what you wished for?

Thanks for putting this in perspective - I feel much better about seeing the train wreck that the basketball program has become. But, help me understand your point.

dyedblue wrote:Remember when a lot of you wanted to run Stew off and we said to be careful what you wished for?

But we return 4 starters and did a national search for a replacement. Odd a national search found a guy already on bench. What are the odds? One in a million?

dyedblue wrote:Remember when a lot of you wanted to run Stew off and we said to be careful what you wished for?

No, I don't remember cuz it never happened. But thanks for playing.

I had this theory that there was a sort of balance of talent between the basketball and football teams.

The basketball team was so good for so many years while the football team was miserable. Then the football team got good and the basketball team had a couple of rough seasons. This year the football team was mediocre so I expected maybe.. a mediocre basketball team! Then we lost to UCI, at home. I don't know, I guess we could still turn out to be mediocre again, but ugh.

The hell it didn't. Go search the forum over the last 2-3 years.

We'll be lucky to finish outside the bottom 3 of the MW this year.

I had this game as a loss because of UC IRVINE'S tall front court.
None of my friends believed me.
Man we are soft.
It is going to be a very long year!

A lot of you guys did not want Randy Rahe said he wasn't a good X's and O's guy...maybe he isn't but I will tell you one thing he is not soft. I would rather have a fire in the belly coach than a nice guy. Verlin is a nice guy too at Idaho, how's that working out for them?

USU made a big mistake of Hiring Duryea!

troutputz wrote:I had this game as a loss because of UC IRVINE'S tall front court.
None of my friends believed me.
Man we are soft.
It is going to be a very long year!

A lot of you guys did not want Randy Rahe said he wasn't a good X's and O's guy...maybe he isn't but I will tell you one thing he is not soft. I would rather have a fire in the belly coach than a nice guy. Verlin is a nice guy too at Idaho, how's that working out for them?

USU made a big mistake of Hiring Duryea!

Funny, both Verlin and Duryea beat Rahe this year... Go figure.

Edit: nevermind, it was WSU (Washington State) that Idaho beat, not WSU (Weber State).

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dyedblue wrote:Remember when a lot of you wanted to run Stew off and we said to be careful what you wished for?

Not true. There were very few posters who wanted Stew fired. There were a lot of posters who wanted Stew to change some things, who warned about exactly what has happened, and is happening to Aggie basketball.

And then there were a few posters who, when someone criticized Stew, made the claim that those posters wanted him fired. Kinda like your post.

FuzzyDunlop wrote:

dyedblue wrote:Remember when a lot of you wanted to run Stew off and we said to be careful what you wished for?

Not true. There were very few posters who wanted Stew fired. There were a lot of posters who wanted Stew to change some things, who warned about exactly what has happened, and is happening to Aggie basketball.

And then there were a few posters who, when someone criticized Stew, made the claim that those posters wanted him fired. Kinda like your post.

That's all it takes to be a clarion call for a firing. Just like the ridiculous same claim re Wells floating around the FB forum.


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dyedblue wrote:The hell it didn't. Go search the forum over the last 2-3 years.

I recommend you do that search using the word 'Weber' so you can see what it really looks like to call for a coach to be fired.


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troutputz wrote:...USU made a big mistake of Hiring Duryea!

We're literally like 8 games into his tenure. I don't think making calls like this are justified yet.

Geo-Aggie wrote:

troutputz wrote:...USU made a big mistake of Hiring Duryea!

We're literally like 8 games into his tenure. I don't think making calls like this are justified yet.

It is entirely justified, and was justified the Day he was hired. USU needed a bigger splash to reinvigorate the program. Stew's last 4 years were a downward trend and to hire Stew-lite was not what the program needed. Image, toughness, personality are all part of a hire, not just BBall coaching. It may be a little early to write off Tim on his recruiting and BBall, but USU needed an image also. That was Missed.

Perhaps Tim should find a way to light a BIG fire under his team -- like (add you own here) let me start with throwing a chair, telling the students to "quit throwing Sh$t on the court", or just throwing a fit until he gets kicked out of a game. At least people will come to watch that . . Right??!!

USUBlue wrote:

Geo-Aggie wrote:

troutputz wrote:...USU made a big mistake of Hiring Duryea!

We're literally like 8 games into his tenure. I don't think making calls like this are justified yet.

It is entirely justified, and was justified the Day he was hired. USU needed a bigger splash to reinvigorate the program. Stew's last 4 years were a downward trend and to hire Stew-lite was not what the program needed. Image, toughness, personality are all part of a hire, not just BBall coaching. It may be a little early to write off Tim on his recruiting and BBall, but USU needed an image also. That was Missed.

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Agree 100%. We have been on a downward slide for a few years, and decided to hire within when it was he perfect time to change our trajectory.

Look at the Huntsman School over the past 7 years; it's hard to recognize. A strategic decision was made to bring in an external Dean to dramatically change trajectories, something no internal could have done. Huntsman Hall is going to be amazing.

Utah brought in an outsider because the last 2 coaches were train wrecks.

dyedblue wrote:Utah brought in an outsider because the last 2 coaches were train wrecks.

Both also outsiders. Majerus was also an outsider. Two successful outsiders, two outsider train wrecks. It's a coin flip.

troutputz wrote:I had this game as a loss because of UC IRVINE'S tall front court.
None of my friends believed me.
Man we are soft.
It is going to be a very long year!

A lot of you guys did not want Randy Rahe said he wasn't a good X's and O's guy...maybe he isn't but I will tell you one thing he is not soft. I would rather have a fire in the belly coach than a nice guy. Verlin is a nice guy too at Idaho, how's that working out for them?

USU made a big mistake of Hiring Duryea!

Or losing their best player two days before the season. How about we at least wait until conference play before we make a judgement on a hire? Or is that too much to ask?

This team's grade thus far is incomplete and I am willing to give TD through next season before arriving at any conclusive judgment. The team has shown an ability to step up and close out a couple of close games and to beat teams they should beat. The tougher games are not indicating this team is ready to excel on multiple levels. We should be better than to be down by double digits for the majority of a half to a team like UC Irvine. By now I also expect the necessary adjustments to have been made with DC's abrupt departure. Given the last two games significant adjustments are still needed that shows to me some coaching inadequacies.

I do like the willingness to go and play Duke. Hopefully TD keeps up the effort to consistently schedule tough games across the country. I expect losses for the first couple of years, but the deficit to consistently shrink until they finally pull out a win that gives the program some confidence going forward.

Recruiting, at least on paper, appears to be significantly better than where we have been in the recent past. On the whole, the current team seems to be the inverse from Stew's typical teams, whose on-the-court results were impressive but weak on the recruiting and scheduling side. Also remember that Stew's first season ended with a record of 15-13 and 8-8 in the BWC as a coach with 12 years experience leading a program.

Yossarian wrote:Remember when USU had good basketball teams that were efficient, fun to watch, and win games?

Remember when we used to beat everyone in the Big West? Those were the good old days.

AggieHead wrote:

Yossarian wrote:Remember when USU had good basketball teams that were efficient, fun to watch, and win games?

Remember when we used to beat everyone in the Big West? Those were the good old days.

Uh, no, I don't, perhaps you can correct my recollection but my recollection is that while in the BW we NEVER beat UNLV (which, to my recollection, won a national championship while a member of that conference) and to my recollection we also lost games to NMSU, UCSB, Irvine, among others. But, then, perhaps you were being sarcastic.

72AgGrad wrote:

AggieHead wrote:

Yossarian wrote:Remember when USU had good basketball teams that were efficient, fun to watch, and win games?

Remember when we used to beat everyone in the Big West? Those were the good old days.

Uh, no, I don't, perhaps you can correct my recollection but my recollection is that while in the BW we NEVER beat UNLV (which, to my recollection, won a national championship while a member of that conference) and to my recollection we also lost games to NMSU, UCSB, Irvine, among others. But, then, perhaps you were being sarcastic.

Interesting how you remember this, but can't remember the 99-00 season when we went 16-0 in the BWC regular season, then 3-0 in the BWC Tourney to claim both the regular season and the tournament crowns?! If that didn't jog your memory, look it up: http://www.usustats.com/seasons/ If that's not the LITERAL definition of "beat[ing] everyone in the Big West" I don't know what is?!

I remember with you, Yossarian! Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying I'm not happy with the step up in competition in the MWC. But there were some very dominant years against teams like UCI. IMO, denying that we had our way with the BWC for a number of years is just an attempt to be contrary?!

ShowMeAggie wrote:

72AgGrad wrote:

AggieHead wrote:

Yossarian wrote:Remember when USU had good basketball teams that were efficient, fun to watch, and win games?

Remember when we used to beat everyone in the Big West? Those were the good old days.

Uh, no, I don't, perhaps you can correct my recollection but my recollection is that while in the BW we NEVER beat UNLV (which, to my recollection, won a national championship while a member of that conference) and to my recollection we also lost games to NMSU, UCSB, Irvine, among others. But, then, perhaps you were being sarcastic.

Interesting how you remember this, but can't remember the 99-00 season when we went 16-0 in the BWC regular season, then 3-0 in the BWC Tourney to claim both the regular season and the tournament crowns?! If that didn't jog your memory, look it up: http://www.usustats.com/seasons/ If that's not the LITERAL definition of "beat[ing] everyone in the Big West" I don't know what is?!

I remember with you, Yossarian! Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying I'm not happy with the step up in competition in the MWC. But there were some very dominant years against teams like UCI. IMO, denying that we had our way with the BWC for a number of years is just an attempt to be contrary?!

Yeah, that's what I meant. It's sad that we are now a middle of the road big west team


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Yeah, UNLV was long gone when we were at the top of the Big West. 99-00 was the start of us dominating the Big West. We would go undefeated in the league that year. But that was the only year we went undefeated in the league without at least a few losses. Even the 00-01 team dropped a few league games that year, though they were on the road. But every year after that, we would be the team with the target on our backs.

Yossarian wrote:Remember when USU had good basketball teams that were efficient, fun to watch, and win games?

Yeah but that was against easy Big-West opponents like UC-Irv....err, nevermind.

Let's be honest, Stew Morrill's average recruiting finally caught up to us, especially once we joined a legit conference.

UtahStizzle wrote:

Yossarian wrote:Remember when USU had good basketball teams that were efficient, fun to watch, and win games?

Yeah but that was against easy Big-West opponents like UC-Irv....err, nevermind.

Let's be honest, Stew Morrill's average recruiting finally caught up to us, especially once we joined a legit conference.

Funny you should say that. I recall going undefeated in conference, NEVER losing at home, and kicking everyone's (I can't express myself without swearing) with Stew....yeah I guess his recruiting finally caught up to us.

ShowMeAggie wrote:

72AgGrad wrote:

AggieHead wrote:

Yossarian wrote:Remember when USU had good basketball teams that were efficient, fun to watch, and win games?

Remember when we used to beat everyone in the Big West? Those were the good old days.

Uh, no, I don't, perhaps you can correct my recollection but my recollection is that while in the BW we NEVER beat UNLV (which, to my recollection, won a national championship while a member of that conference) and to my recollection we also lost games to NMSU, UCSB, Irvine, among others. But, then, perhaps you were being sarcastic.

Interesting how you remember this, but can't remember the 99-00 season when we went 16-0 in the BWC regular season, then 3-0 in the BWC Tourney to claim both the regular season and the tournament crowns?! If that didn't jog your memory, look it up: http://www.usustats.com/seasons/ If that's not the LITERAL definition of "beat[ing] everyone in the Big West" I don't know what is?!

I remember with you, Yossarian! Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying I'm not happy with the step up in competition in the MWC. But there were some very dominant years against teams like UCI. IMO, denying that we had our way with the BWC for a number of years is just an attempt to be contrary?!

Certainly I remember the 1 season we went undefeated in the BW. I simply pointed out that you overstated your case. Perhaps you can continue to add to my recollection, but my recollection is that when we were dominating the BW, UNLV was long gone, though NMSU was still a conference mate. I sure would hate to have to play them THIS year.

72AgGrad wrote:

ShowMeAggie wrote:

72AgGrad wrote:

AggieHead wrote:

Yossarian wrote:Remember when USU had good basketball teams that were efficient, fun to watch, and win games?

Remember when we used to beat everyone in the Big West? Those were the good old days.

Uh, no, I don't, perhaps you can correct my recollection but my recollection is that while in the BW we NEVER beat UNLV (which, to my recollection, won a national championship while a member of that conference) and to my recollection we also lost games to NMSU, UCSB, Irvine, among others. But, then, perhaps you were being sarcastic.

Interesting how you remember this, but can't remember the 99-00 season when we went 16-0 in the BWC regular season, then 3-0 in the BWC Tourney to claim both the regular season and the tournament crowns?! If that didn't jog your memory, look it up: http://www.usustats.com/seasons/ If that's not the LITERAL definition of "beat[ing] everyone in the Big West" I don't know what is?!

I remember with you, Yossarian! Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying I'm not happy with the step up in competition in the MWC. But there were some very dominant years against teams like UCI. IMO, denying that we had our way with the BWC for a number of years is just an attempt to be contrary?!

Certainly I remember the 1 season we went undefeated in the BW. I simply pointed out that you overstated your case. Perhaps you can continue to add to my recollection, but my recollection is that when we were dominating the BW, UNLV was long gone, though NMSU was still a conference mate. I sure would hate to have to play them THIS year.

We beat UNLV in 93-94, 94-95, and 95-96 while they were members of the Big West Conference.

http://www.usustats.com/opponents/UNLV

treesap32 wrote:

72AgGrad wrote:

ShowMeAggie wrote:

72AgGrad wrote:

AggieHead wrote:

Yossarian wrote:Remember when USU had good basketball teams that were efficient, fun to watch, and win games?

Remember when we used to beat everyone in the Big West? Those were the good old days.

Uh, no, I don't, perhaps you can correct my recollection but my recollection is that while in the BW we NEVER beat UNLV (which, to my recollection, won a national championship while a member of that conference) and to my recollection we also lost games to NMSU, UCSB, Irvine, among others. But, then, perhaps you were being sarcastic.

Interesting how you remember this, but can't remember the 99-00 season when we went 16-0 in the BWC regular season, then 3-0 in the BWC Tourney to claim both the regular season and the tournament crowns?! If that didn't jog your memory, look it up: http://www.usustats.com/seasons/ If that's not the LITERAL definition of "beat[ing] everyone in the Big West" I don't know what is?!

I remember with you, Yossarian! Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying I'm not happy with the step up in competition in the MWC. But there were some very dominant years against teams like UCI. IMO, denying that we had our way with the BWC for a number of years is just an attempt to be contrary?!

Certainly I remember the 1 season we went undefeated in the BW. I simply pointed out that you overstated your case. Perhaps you can continue to add to my recollection, but my recollection is that when we were dominating the BW, UNLV was long gone, though NMSU was still a conference mate. I sure would hate to have to play them THIS year.

We beat UNLV in 93-94, 94-95, and 95-96 while they were members of the Big West Conference.

http://www.usustats.com/opponents/UNLV

Very well. My recollection is refreshed and corrected.