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I can't seem to figure why the final four or so possessions all went to Koby throwing up shots. Koby was having an off night, and Jalen was having a great night, and sealed the deal last home game. Really frustrating to me. And Dur-yeah's timeouts at the end of the game seemed to come at odd times to me.
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We have had repeated errors late in games. A shame we have been in the MW for four years and still haven't beat San Diego State.
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He isn't a good coach. Just be glad we only have another year of this.NVAggie wrote:It has been an issue for Duryea's tenure.
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Looked to me like everyone was standing around looking at Koby to make a play.
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Play is hotshot. Best shooter of game drops to our offensive corner. In tonight's game it was jaylen. Either side. Point guard veers to middle as hotshot gets slight screen Run 3 times and Kobe stayed on right and forced contested shot. Spencer yelled at timeout. Hotshot
If guard doesn't veer to middle. Bumpscreen hotshot was on left. Kobe on rightwith no angle to left open player. He was frustrated all game and tried to finish it himself. My take.
If guard doesn't veer to middle. Bumpscreen hotshot was on left. Kobe on rightwith no angle to left open player. He was frustrated all game and tried to finish it himself. My take.
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Two hallmarks of TD's tenure: 1. Long stretches of ineffective possessions that allow teams to go on big runs 2. Late game confusion and poor shot selection.
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Now our celing is a tie for 8th place in the conference. Most likely we'll finish 9th, but that depends on us at least splitting the road games against UNLV and SJS. Depressing.
It's quite amazing the fall from grace of USU basketball. We now find ourselves looking up at former WAC-mates Fresno St., SJS, Nevada and BSU. There was a time, not so long ago, with the exception of Nevada, that we'd consider losing either home or away to them to be a major disappointment.
The losing has really affected this board. Never could I have imagined the lack of interest as has been displayed on this message board leading up to and after a game. One single thread with a handful of comments.
It's quite amazing the fall from grace of USU basketball. We now find ourselves looking up at former WAC-mates Fresno St., SJS, Nevada and BSU. There was a time, not so long ago, with the exception of Nevada, that we'd consider losing either home or away to them to be a major disappointment.
The losing has really affected this board. Never could I have imagined the lack of interest as has been displayed on this message board leading up to and after a game. One single thread with a handful of comments.
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That one year is going to feel like 10.Aggie in Hawaii wrote:He isn't a good coach. Just be glad we only have another year of this.NVAggie wrote:It has been an issue for Duryea's tenure.
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Probably because Jalen has come up short multiple times late in games this season, and many of us have clamored for Koby to be The Guy late in games as a result.
It's the nature of the business. Player makes a clutch shot, coach looks like a genius. Player misses the shot, everything is second guessed. We've had a lot more misses than makes.
It's the nature of the business. Player makes a clutch shot, coach looks like a genius. Player misses the shot, everything is second guessed. We've had a lot more misses than makes.
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I know optimism is not appreciated here, but here goes anyway.
I saw a team last night that was a handful of poor decisions away from a big win. A couple of those poor decisions were made by a graduating senior, but most of them by a couple of very good, but inexperienced freshmen. Freshmen are less likely to make those mistakes as Sophomores.
This team has some guys who wan to win. As the season has gone on, they have gotten better, and I expect that to carry forward to next year. They have won some games late in the season that they were losing earlier, and have been close in some games that would have been blowout losses earlier.
We have four nice looking players coming next year in Stall, Henson, Miller and Brown, and a lot of freshmen and sophomores getting a lot of experience this year. I see a team that looks ready to turn a corner, not one that is sinking into an abyss.
JMHO
I saw a team last night that was a handful of poor decisions away from a big win. A couple of those poor decisions were made by a graduating senior, but most of them by a couple of very good, but inexperienced freshmen. Freshmen are less likely to make those mistakes as Sophomores.
This team has some guys who wan to win. As the season has gone on, they have gotten better, and I expect that to carry forward to next year. They have won some games late in the season that they were losing earlier, and have been close in some games that would have been blowout losses earlier.
We have four nice looking players coming next year in Stall, Henson, Miller and Brown, and a lot of freshmen and sophomores getting a lot of experience this year. I see a team that looks ready to turn a corner, not one that is sinking into an abyss.
JMHO
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Well the good news is next year they will either turn the corner like you say or we will get rid of a bad Head Coach. Either way 2018 will be a good year for Aggie basketball.cval wrote:I know optimism is not appreciated here, but here goes anyway.
I saw a team last night that was a handful of poor decisions away from a big win. A couple of those poor decisions were made by a graduating senior, but most of them by a couple of very good, but inexperienced freshmen. Freshmen are less likely to make those mistakes as Sophomores.
This team has some guys who wan to win. As the season has gone on, they have gotten better, and I expect that to carry forward to next year. They have won some games late in the season that they were losing earlier, and have been close in some games that would have been blowout losses earlier.
We have four nice looking players coming next year in Stall, Henson, Miller and Brown, and a lot of freshmen and sophomores getting a lot of experience this year. I see a team that looks ready to turn a corner, not one that is sinking into an abyss.
JMHO
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The last 4 years of Stew's tenure were not very good. That is why we shouldn't have hired the associate hc.BobWilson wrote:It was an issue to beat San Diego State under Stew as well.
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I've ran out of things to say about this team, perhaps it is the same for everyone? After Kell hit the desperation 3 at the end of the shot clock I had no more hope that we would win the game. The sad thing is there was 8:46 left in the game and that made 3 only made it a 5 point Aztec lead and yet I felt like it was hopeless. The following 3 pointer forty seconds later basically put the game out of reach for this Aggie team and the rest of the game was like watching a slow torturous death.utaggies wrote:Now our celing is a tie for 8th place in the conference. Most likely we'll finish 9th, but that depends on us at least splitting the road games against UNLV and SJS. Depressing.
It's quite amazing the fall from grace of USU basketball. We now find ourselves looking up at former WAC-mates Fresno St., SJS, Nevada and BSU. There was a time, not so long ago, with the exception of Nevada, that we'd consider losing either home or away to them to be a major disappointment.
The losing has really affected this board. Never could I have imagined the lack of interest as has been displayed on this message board leading up to and after a game. One single thread with a handful of comments.
When the game is being decided, we seem to check out. It's almost like we don't recognize that the game is being decided in that moment. Instead we have the mentality that we have plenty of time to make some more runs and get within striking distance again. We simply do not have it within the makeup of this team to take control of a game or to extend a lead on the rare occasion that we have one. We watch the same movie every game of a team that seems satisfied with simply staying close with the possibility that they can somehow pull it out by the time the clock hits zeros.
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No one on our team is assertive, we finally have someone who has the balls to take a shot in Koby and people call him too selfish.
I for one am sick of the last 5-6 years of us using 20+ seconds at the end of games to find a shot that wouldn't have been much better than what Koby took anyway. If Koby doesn't take a shot early, it usually gets swung around to guys who are afraid to take a contested shot. SDSU was playing great D all night and was locking us down on the perimeter because they knew we needed a 3.
SDSU was draining contested, bad shots at the end of the shot clock all night. Like Aglicious pointed out, the game felt over when Kell made the miracle end of shot clock 3, then they got hot and hit another 3, then the dude hits the side of the backboard and SDSU somehow came up with the rebound and guess what...hits another 3.
Koby didn't have a great game last night, but he and Merrill have been the only ones I've seen take a shot when it needs to be taken quickly (end of the shot clock, end of the game when down, etc). Jalen is a little too tentative at times, and people here blast him for that all the time, but now we are blasting someone for wanting that burden of taking a shot? If Koby makes that last 3 we would all be praising him to the worlds end, statistics say he had about a 42% shot of draining it... basketball is a fickle sport.
I for one am sick of the last 5-6 years of us using 20+ seconds at the end of games to find a shot that wouldn't have been much better than what Koby took anyway. If Koby doesn't take a shot early, it usually gets swung around to guys who are afraid to take a contested shot. SDSU was playing great D all night and was locking us down on the perimeter because they knew we needed a 3.
SDSU was draining contested, bad shots at the end of the shot clock all night. Like Aglicious pointed out, the game felt over when Kell made the miracle end of shot clock 3, then they got hot and hit another 3, then the dude hits the side of the backboard and SDSU somehow came up with the rebound and guess what...hits another 3.
Koby didn't have a great game last night, but he and Merrill have been the only ones I've seen take a shot when it needs to be taken quickly (end of the shot clock, end of the game when down, etc). Jalen is a little too tentative at times, and people here blast him for that all the time, but now we are blasting someone for wanting that burden of taking a shot? If Koby makes that last 3 we would all be praising him to the worlds end, statistics say he had about a 42% shot of draining it... basketball is a fickle sport.
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MetsJetsAggies wrote:No one on our team is assertive, we finally have someone who has the balls to take a shot in Koby and people call him too selfish.
I for one am sick of the last 5-6 years of us using 20+ seconds at the end of games to find a shot that wouldn't have been much better than what Koby took anyway. If Koby doesn't take a shot early, it usually gets swung around to guys who are afraid to take a contested shot. SDSU was playing great D all night and was locking us down on the perimeter because they knew we needed a 3.
SDSU was draining contested, bad shots at the end of the shot clock all night. Like Aglicious pointed out, the game felt over when Kell made the miracle end of shot clock 3, then they got hot and hit another 3, then the dude hits the side of the backboard and SDSU somehow came up with the rebound and guess what...hits another 3.
Koby didn't have a great game last night, but he and Merrill have been the only ones I've seen take a shot when it needs to be taken quickly (end of the shot clock, end of the game when down, etc). Jalen is a little too tentative at times, and people here blast him for that all the time, but now we are blasting someone for wanting that burden of taking a shot? If Koby makes that last 3 we would all be praising him to the worlds end, statistics say he had about a 42% shot of draining it... basketball is a fickle sport.
You are correct. It is a fine line to be sure. Jalen gets criticized daily for not being selfish enough but then Koby is too selfish.
I honk both players are just fine.
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It's wonderful that you are a "glass-half-full" guy. I'm an optimist, too. But I am foremost a realist. I don't go around whistling "The sun will come out tomorrow!" in perilous times. And make no mistake about it, these are perilous times for Aggie athletics. We've got the coaches of our two major sports programs hanging onto their jobs by the skins of their teeth. it has been 60 years since an Aggie team finished with a combined worse conference record. Both have failed to win a game on the road this season. Attendance and interest in Aggie the two marquee sports is dropping. Our home attendance in basketball in 2013-14 was 9,829. Our home attendance so far this year is 6,791 -- a 44% drop. Our football attendance in 2014 was 23,263. Last season our home attendance was 19,136 -- a 22% drop.cval wrote:I know optimism is not appreciated here, but here goes anyway.
I saw a team last night that was a handful of poor decisions away from a big win. A couple of those poor decisions were made by a graduating senior, but most of them by a couple of very good, but inexperienced freshmen. Freshmen are less likely to make those mistakes as Sophomores.
This team has some guys who wan to win. As the season has gone on, they have gotten better, and I expect that to carry forward to next year. They have won some games late in the season that they were losing earlier, and have been close in some games that would have been blowout losses earlier.
We have four nice looking players coming next year in Stall, Henson, Miller and Brown, and a lot of freshmen and sophomores getting a lot of experience this year. I see a team that looks ready to turn a corner, not one that is sinking into an abyss.
JMHO
I appreciate the fact that next year our freshmen will be better (and hopefully both of them come back). But if you expect me to optimistically look forward to and take comfort in finishing in an improved 6th place next year as opposed to 9th place (or worse) this year, you would be mistaken. And 6th place, or worse, is where we will finish unless the cavalry arrives with some semblance of a big man that can greatly improve upon the Janicek/Barnaba/Taylor big man train wreck that has been our complete undoing this year.
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I'm not sure I'd call beating SDSU this year "a big win" even if we had pulled it out. This is the same team that Air Force and San Jo-freakin'-se beat this season. We should have been able to beat them at home and we didn't.cval wrote:I know optimism is not appreciated here, but here goes anyway.
I saw a team last night that was a handful of poor decisions away from a big win. A couple of those poor decisions were made by a graduating senior, but most of them by a couple of very good, but inexperienced freshmen. Freshmen are less likely to make those mistakes as Sophomores.
This team has some guys who wan to win. As the season has gone on, they have gotten better, and I expect that to carry forward to next year. They have won some games late in the season that they were losing earlier, and have been close in some games that would have been blowout losses earlier.
We have four nice looking players coming next year in Stall, Henson, Miller and Brown, and a lot of freshmen and sophomores getting a lot of experience this year. I see a team that looks ready to turn a corner, not one that is sinking into an abyss.
JMHO
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Funny, this was what I felt and decided staying up late to listen to the loss wasn't worth it and turned off the game at that point. Even I knew that was the deciding point.Aglicious wrote:I've ran out of things to say about this team, perhaps it is the same for everyone? After Kell hit the desperation 3 at the end of the shot clock I had no more hope that we would win the game. The sad thing is there was 8:46 left in the game and that made 3 only made it a 5 point Aztec lead and yet I felt like it was hopeless. The following 3 pointer forty seconds later basically put the game out of reach for this Aggie team and the rest of the game was like watching a slow torturous death.utaggies wrote:Now our celing is a tie for 8th place in the conference. Most likely we'll finish 9th, but that depends on us at least splitting the road games against UNLV and SJS. Depressing.
It's quite amazing the fall from grace of USU basketball. We now find ourselves looking up at former WAC-mates Fresno St., SJS, Nevada and BSU. There was a time, not so long ago, with the exception of Nevada, that we'd consider losing either home or away to them to be a major disappointment.
The losing has really affected this board. Never could I have imagined the lack of interest as has been displayed on this message board leading up to and after a game. One single thread with a handful of comments.
When the game is being decided, we seem to check out. It's almost like we don't recognize that the game is being decided in that moment. Instead we have the mentality that we have plenty of time to make some more runs and get within striking distance again. We simply do not have it within the makeup of this team to take control of a game or to extend a lead on the rare occasion that we have one. We watch the same movie every game of a team that seems satisfied with simply staying close with the possibility that they can somehow pull it out by the time the clock hits zeros.
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As a student at USU my first exposure to Aggie basketball was the last year in the Field House. The next year I watched the inaugural game in the Spectrum against a very good Ohio State team. The Spectrum was a sellout for most games and the student enrollment was about 8,000. Today it is probably closer to 18,000 and the Spectrum is half full. I realize this is a national thing but it is still depressing. I guess in the words of Merle Haggard I have to wonder if the "If the good times a really over for good"
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Re: Final Few Possessions
Right now it's groundhog day with the two biggest sports at USU. Mens bball and football. The last 6 months are a rerun. With football, it could be close most of the game but in the end I just knew we were going to lose. When you watch our athletes, something major is missing. I wonder if it's really just the mental part of the game. I wouldn't say in bball or football that we are unequivocally lacking in overall team talent. Let me expound on that for a second. It doesn't seem to me like the other teams in the Mtn west in bball and football have overwhelmingly better talent than us. I don't have a single thing or person to blame it on, but it's just my opinion that possibly something is wrong mentally with many of the athletes in these two sports. Think about when it's a close game. Do we ever win close games in football or basketball? The answer is very, very rarely.Aglicious wrote:I've ran out of things to say about this team, perhaps it is the same for everyone? After Kell hit the desperation 3 at the end of the shot clock I had no more hope that we would win the game. The sad thing is there was 8:46 left in the game and that made 3 only made it a 5 point Aztec lead and yet I felt like it was hopeless. The following 3 pointer forty seconds later basically put the game out of reach for this Aggie team and the rest of the game was like watching a slow torturous death.utaggies wrote:Now our celing is a tie for 8th place in the conference. Most likely we'll finish 9th, but that depends on us at least splitting the road games against UNLV and SJS. Depressing.
It's quite amazing the fall from grace of USU basketball. We now find ourselves looking up at former WAC-mates Fresno St., SJS, Nevada and BSU. There was a time, not so long ago, with the exception of Nevada, that we'd consider losing either home or away to them to be a major disappointment.
The losing has really affected this board. Never could I have imagined the lack of interest as has been displayed on this message board leading up to and after a game. One single thread with a handful of comments.
When the game is being decided, we seem to check out. It's almost like we don't recognize that the game is being decided in that moment. Instead we have the mentality that we have plenty of time to make some more runs and get within striking distance again. We simply do not have it within the makeup of this team to take control of a game or to extend a lead on the rare occasion that we have one. We watch the same movie every game of a team that seems satisfied with simply staying close with the possibility that they can somehow pull it out by the time the clock hits zeros.
Like Aglicious, I've run out of things to say about this team. I already knew what (in basketball) this season was going to be like about a month ago.
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I'll tell you what's lacking -- Coaching and LeadershipMaverik_Aggie wrote:Right now it's groundhog day with the two biggest sports at USU. Mens bball and football. The last 6 months are a rerun. With football, it could be close most of the game but in the end I just knew we were going to lose. When you watch our athletes, something major is missing. I wonder if it's really just the mental part of the game. I wouldn't say in bball or football that we are unequivocally lacking in overall team talent. Let me expound on that for a second. It doesn't seem to me like the other teams in the Mtn west in bball and football have overwhelmingly better talent than us. I don't have a single thing or person to blame it on, but it's just my opinion that possibly something is wrong mentally with many of the athletes in these two sports. Think about when it's a close game. Do we ever win close games in football or basketball? The answer is very, very rarely.Aglicious wrote:I've ran out of things to say about this team, perhaps it is the same for everyone? After Kell hit the desperation 3 at the end of the shot clock I had no more hope that we would win the game. The sad thing is there was 8:46 left in the game and that made 3 only made it a 5 point Aztec lead and yet I felt like it was hopeless. The following 3 pointer forty seconds later basically put the game out of reach for this Aggie team and the rest of the game was like watching a slow torturous death.utaggies wrote:Now our celing is a tie for 8th place in the conference. Most likely we'll finish 9th, but that depends on us at least splitting the road games against UNLV and SJS. Depressing.
It's quite amazing the fall from grace of USU basketball. We now find ourselves looking up at former WAC-mates Fresno St., SJS, Nevada and BSU. There was a time, not so long ago, with the exception of Nevada, that we'd consider losing either home or away to them to be a major disappointment.
The losing has really affected this board. Never could I have imagined the lack of interest as has been displayed on this message board leading up to and after a game. One single thread with a handful of comments.
When the game is being decided, we seem to check out. It's almost like we don't recognize that the game is being decided in that moment. Instead we have the mentality that we have plenty of time to make some more runs and get within striking distance again. We simply do not have it within the makeup of this team to take control of a game or to extend a lead on the rare occasion that we have one. We watch the same movie every game of a team that seems satisfied with simply staying close with the possibility that they can somehow pull it out by the time the clock hits zeros.
Like Aglicious, I've run out of things to say about this team. I already knew what (in basketball) this season was going to be like about a month ago.
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I was worried USU blue wouldn't make that comment. Ha Aggies forever, sorry but you owe me a dollar on the bet
Every word I bet on was used except competence
IMO. I see a few improvements in our team. Spacing ,passing, foul pitches, finishing at the
Rim all flawed efforts. I'm encouraged that we are doing better overall. But if we take that stank offense on the
road, no , sure enough, no way we win. But if we reinvent the offense vs Wyoming we wi Last night our defense busted
a nut. Played The defensive game plan installed in practice. For first quarter the ball didn't swing away from pressure, players except jaylen were not spacing and moving.
Here is a BIG if.....if we can play both sides of the ball like Wyoming game , repeat good defense sans a couple misse vs sdsu
We could make noise in tourney.
I'm $2 wealthier. Thx
Every word I bet on was used except competence
IMO. I see a few improvements in our team. Spacing ,passing, foul pitches, finishing at the
Rim all flawed efforts. I'm encouraged that we are doing better overall. But if we take that stank offense on the
road, no , sure enough, no way we win. But if we reinvent the offense vs Wyoming we wi Last night our defense busted
a nut. Played The defensive game plan installed in practice. For first quarter the ball didn't swing away from pressure, players except jaylen were not spacing and moving.
Here is a BIG if.....if we can play both sides of the ball like Wyoming game , repeat good defense sans a couple misse vs sdsu
We could make noise in tourney.
I'm $2 wealthier. Thx
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Well at least AF is getting smarter and not betting you so much on what would seem to be an automatic win for you Buck. Now if AF was really smart, he'd give me a call and the "fix would be in".buckfever wrote:I was worried USU blue wouldn't make that comment. Ha Aggies forever, sorry but you owe me a dollar on the bet
Every word I bet on was used except competence
IMO. I see a few improvements in our team. Spacing ,passing, foul pitches, finishing at the
Rim all flawed efforts. I'm encouraged that we are doing better overall. But if we take that stank offense on the
road, no , sure enough, no way we win. But if we reinvent the offense vs Wyoming we wi Last night our defense busted
a nut. Played The defensive game plan installed in practice. For first quarter the ball didn't swing away from pressure, players except jaylen were not spacing and moving.
Here is a BIG if.....if we can play both sides of the ball like Wyoming game , repeat good defense sans a couple misse vs sdsu
We could make noise in tourney.
I'm $2 wealthier. Thx
PS. - If you've got the "in" with Duryea, you may want to tell him to go dust off Stew's playbook a little more, minimize the ball screen offense, and teach the boys to set some real screens.
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So. Since stew I don't talk to the coach. Yes. Former player asst coach. Once in a bit. I've shifted gears into wanting info
And being burned when I relayed things that didn't pan out ...to a fan that gets an idea but now I just wait to see final recruits
Recently I passed a big kid coming out of Estes center. Said hello and short visit about his visit was. Never exchanged names. See. Everyone wanted and thought I had info. Nope. I know view recruiting info as just HOPE and coaches sifting through talent
All I want is a guy A big mean damn guy that do I dominates inside like Desmond lineage
That's about it. I bet you $2 usu blue that coach dureay wouldn't know my name if you pointed me out.
And being burned when I relayed things that didn't pan out ...to a fan that gets an idea but now I just wait to see final recruits
Recently I passed a big kid coming out of Estes center. Said hello and short visit about his visit was. Never exchanged names. See. Everyone wanted and thought I had info. Nope. I know view recruiting info as just HOPE and coaches sifting through talent
All I want is a guy A big mean damn guy that do I dominates inside like Desmond lineage
That's about it. I bet you $2 usu blue that coach dureay wouldn't know my name if you pointed me out.
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Oh sure. Dust of the great stew screen book. I agree. So does spencer. Hope you noticed 2 actually bone shakin screens
Set by of all people barnaba
Remember Brenaan ray and tai setting blind half court crushing screens at mid court against opponent pressing
Our guards. Yes. We had 5 screens. We should have about 17 or so. With our guards. Maybe every play like when Bernard Rock had screen support every time on offense. Many were screens set to disrupt his defender and let him make assist
Once those guys set a few bone jarring screens they softened defense because they didn't like pain. Pain is a good teacher
Sure blue. Screen Or nasty mean screen. Hurtful. Steve Fischer relies on his guys to be physical and reach in on every play knowing refs will call only a few
Stew had them set damn hard mean and often legal screens. Play the average. Key only allow the physical guys full dinner
Set by of all people barnaba
Remember Brenaan ray and tai setting blind half court crushing screens at mid court against opponent pressing
Our guards. Yes. We had 5 screens. We should have about 17 or so. With our guards. Maybe every play like when Bernard Rock had screen support every time on offense. Many were screens set to disrupt his defender and let him make assist
Once those guys set a few bone jarring screens they softened defense because they didn't like pain. Pain is a good teacher
Sure blue. Screen Or nasty mean screen. Hurtful. Steve Fischer relies on his guys to be physical and reach in on every play knowing refs will call only a few
Stew had them set damn hard mean and often legal screens. Play the average. Key only allow the physical guys full dinner
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I think what you are trying to say is the mentality of the coach to keep the game close and then try to win it at the end. This team needs to realize that most games are won well before the last couple of minutes. Most teams up by 20 with 5 minutes left win. Most teams down by 8 with 5 minutes left lose. Games that are tied with 5 minutes left are a toss-up. Every second of the basketball game needs to be played with the urgency that that possession is the one that will decide the game. The final score doesn't reflect when the points were scored and there isn't a ratio to make points scored early worth less than points scored late.Aglicious wrote:I've ran out of things to say about this team, perhaps it is the same for everyone? After Kell hit the desperation 3 at the end of the shot clock I had no more hope that we would win the game. The sad thing is there was 8:46 left in the game and that made 3 only made it a 5 point Aztec lead and yet I felt like it was hopeless. The following 3 pointer forty seconds later basically put the game out of reach for this Aggie team and the rest of the game was like watching a slow torturous death.utaggies wrote:Now our celing is a tie for 8th place in the conference. Most likely we'll finish 9th, but that depends on us at least splitting the road games against UNLV and SJS. Depressing.
It's quite amazing the fall from grace of USU basketball. We now find ourselves looking up at former WAC-mates Fresno St., SJS, Nevada and BSU. There was a time, not so long ago, with the exception of Nevada, that we'd consider losing either home or away to them to be a major disappointment.
The losing has really affected this board. Never could I have imagined the lack of interest as has been displayed on this message board leading up to and after a game. One single thread with a handful of comments.
When the game is being decided, we seem to check out. It's almost like we don't recognize that the game is being decided in that moment. Instead we have the mentality that we have plenty of time to make some more runs and get within striking distance again. We simply do not have it within the makeup of this team to take control of a game or to extend a lead on the rare occasion that we have one. We watch the same movie every game of a team that seems satisfied with simply staying close with the possibility that they can somehow pull it out by the time the clock hits zeros.
Against SDSU we lost by 4, it wasn't because we couldn't get a 5 point play at the buzzer. How many possessions did we waste on offense or give up something easy on defense earlier in the game that would have given us those 5 points and more?
Re: Final Few Possessions
Duryea is not a good head coach. He wasn't a good head coach his 2 years in JC ball, and he's not a good head coach here. Right now this team should be showing a lot of improvement. It isn't. It's showing a little bit here and there, but for the most part this team is playing the same as it did at the start of conference play. For things to turn around, Duryea would have to change how he does things on and off the court. It's good to hope for that to happen, but it isn't very realistic, and there's no real evidence to support that it will. So there is no reason to assume that if he keeps doing what he's been doing for 2 seasons now, that things are going to miraculously improve. Everyone wants the Aggies to win. Those of us who warned 4 years ago about the direction of the program want the Aggies to win. Those who thought things were fine want the Aggies to win. Those of us who thought Duryea was an epic fail of a hire want the Aggies to win. Those who were ok with the hire want the Aggies to win. But sometimes you have to stop wanting, stop wishing, and take another direction for things to improve.
Anyone should be thinking. A player like McEwen, who has real potential to play in the NBA one day, and after what he's shown he can do as a freshman, has to be asking himself some questions. Like, what are the advantages of staying at USU, and what are the advantages of transferring to a higher more successful program. Which of those will be more helpful to me achieving my dream of playing in the NBA one day. His loyalty to Louis Wilson can only be expected to go so far, and so can his loyalty to USU.
Anyone should be thinking. A player like McEwen, who has real potential to play in the NBA one day, and after what he's shown he can do as a freshman, has to be asking himself some questions. Like, what are the advantages of staying at USU, and what are the advantages of transferring to a higher more successful program. Which of those will be more helpful to me achieving my dream of playing in the NBA one day. His loyalty to Louis Wilson can only be expected to go so far, and so can his loyalty to USU.
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Ole Timmy has his issues. Running Stew's playbook is not one of them. Please don't bring that back. Kids looking at cards for 25 seconds then trying to run a play. Against better athletes getting a deer in the headlights look because they not only know what is coming but have the athletic ability to react and shut it down.
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My one hope is that he won't want to sit out a year next year by transferring.....that's my only hope.I.M.Noone wrote:Duryea is not a good head coach. He wasn't a good head coach his 2 years in JC ball, and he's not a good head coach here. Right now this team should be showing a lot of improvement. It isn't. It's showing a little bit here and there, but for the most part this team is playing the same as it did at the start of conference play. For things to turn around, Duryea would have to change how he does things on and off the court. It's good to hope for that to happen, but it isn't very realistic, and there's no real evidence to support that it will. So there is no reason to assume that if he keeps doing what he's been doing for 2 seasons now, that things are going to miraculously improve. Everyone wants the Aggies to win. Those of us who warned 4 years ago about the direction of the program want the Aggies to win. Those who thought things were fine want the Aggies to win. Those of us who thought Duryea was an epic fail of a hire want the Aggies to win. Those who were ok with the hire want the Aggies to win. But sometimes you have to stop wanting, stop wishing, and take another direction for things to improve.
Anyone should be thinking. A player like McEwen, who has real potential to play in the NBA one day, and after what he's shown he can do as a freshman, has to be asking himself some questions. Like, what are the advantages of staying at USU, and what are the advantages of transferring to a higher more successful program. Which of those will be more helpful to me achieving my dream of playing in the NBA one day. His loyalty to Louis Wilson can only be expected to go so far, and so can his loyalty to USU.
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I don't want this post to come across the wrong way, as I believe McEwen has a lot of potential, and he has shown some impressive things as a freshman. However, he has a long way to go. Not an all inclusive list, but just to name a few, getting a 5 second count by not calling timeout or passing the ball in time, getting a 10 second violation for not getting the ball across half court (as if he has the whole 30 second shot clock to get there), driving to the basket and throwing the ball into the student section 5 miles over Sam's head, his poor decisions at the end of the game to take horrible shots that have no chance of going in, etc.I.M.Noone wrote: Anyone should be thinking. A player like McEwen, who has real potential to play in the NBA one day, and after what he's shown he can do as a freshman, has to be asking himself some questions. Like, what are the advantages of staying at USU, and what are the advantages of transferring to a higher more successful program. Which of those will be more helpful to me achieving my dream of playing in the NBA one day. His loyalty to Louis Wilson can only be expected to go so far, and so can his loyalty to USU.
If he makes a decision to transfer to another school, thinking that he had no part in those losses, would be an interesting thought process on his part. Good coaching can fix some things, but his reaction to some of these problems doesn't demonstrate that he would be receptive. Another poster recently said what I have observed too many times. He is like a cry baby to the refs and his body language suggests he blames the other players for his mistakes. Too many times when he makes an awful pass, he has this look on his face with his outstretched hands like it was his teammate's fault. Anyone watching from the sidelines could see it was McEwen's horrible pass. If he can't acknowledge when he makes a mistake, a good coach can't correct those things.