Re: Student attendance
Posted: January 11th, 2019, 9:15 am
This! ^^^^^
Yes! That lady was obnoxious, and the mocking she received was perfect.dirtnsnow wrote:I thought the double arm pump was a result of a game against Paul George's Fresno State team where we held them scoreless for over 5 minutes. A lady on their bench enthusiastically pumped her arms when they finally scored, and the student section started doing it every time something went right for Fresno, which wasn't often in that game.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 1:33 amUgly duckling. Frodo baggins. Katniss. Daddy's boy (resulted in tears and the world famous double arm pump).dirtnsnow wrote:I remember some of those personal cheers. "Run like a man" for fazekas, "Gary Coleman" for some Weber State player that was under 6 ft tall, and others. Good times, thanks for spearheading that.scotlandog wrote: ↑January 10th, 2019, 11:12 pmI was part of a group of guys that came up with 75% of the cheers used today. We just tried different things. Sometimes they worked and sometimes they didn’t. We usually had at least one cheer directed at a specific opposing player, something we researched. I would agree though that just getting loud on defense goes a long way to get people going and create a good atmosphere.
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I know it's not the popular opinion but I think it's good the Wild Bill ship has sailed.Usu0505 wrote:Student section just needs a leader... or a few leaders. I think thats the diff between now amd 8 years ago. Any students on here willing to be front row for every game and get things back in order?
Im sure wild bill has long moved on but USU should pay him a lot of money to come back for a season and show the young guns how it's done.
In sure its something he is proud of but something he wouldnt want to do in his adult working life.usufan1 wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 10:53 amI know it's not the popular opinion but I think it's good the Wild Bill ship has sailed.Usu0505 wrote:Student section just needs a leader... or a few leaders. I think thats the diff between now amd 8 years ago. Any students on here willing to be front row for every game and get things back in order?
Im sure wild bill has long moved on but USU should pay him a lot of money to come back for a season and show the young guns how it's done.
It was awesome and different at the time. People loved it and it was something that was an addition to an already raucous student section.
The current student section needs their own Wild Bill variant not THE Wild Bill.
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I thought she was a pretty good sport about it. At least, she seemed to be laughing from where I was sitting. I thought it was pretty clever that they drew the Stanley cup on the whiteboard they would bring and were pumping it like the hockey players do. The my Little pony on the board when Boise would visit was great, too.usufan1 wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 10:49 amYes! That lady was obnoxious, and the mocking she received was perfect.dirtnsnow wrote:I thought the double arm pump was a result of a game against Paul George's Fresno State team where we held them scoreless for over 5 minutes. A lady on their bench enthusiastically pumped her arms when they finally scored, and the student section started doing it every time something went right for Fresno, which wasn't often in that game.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 1:33 amUgly duckling. Frodo baggins. Katniss. Daddy's boy (resulted in tears and the world famous double arm pump).dirtnsnow wrote:I remember some of those personal cheers. "Run like a man" for fazekas, "Gary Coleman" for some Weber State player that was under 6 ft tall, and others. Good times, thanks for spearheading that.scotlandog wrote: ↑January 10th, 2019, 11:12 pmI was part of a group of guys that came up with 75% of the cheers used today. We just tried different things. Sometimes they worked and sometimes they didn’t. We usually had at least one cheer directed at a specific opposing player, something we researched. I would agree though that just getting loud on defense goes a long way to get people going and create a good atmosphere.
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It lasted for a few games whenever a team would accomplish a small feat and over celebrate.
I miss the students actually being involved at the games and paying attention.
Currently they are almost as ineffective as the cheerleaders.
Wednesday was my first game back in the Spectrum and it was good to hear how energized it got, but it dropped off quickly.
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I was there for the wild Bill era. As for what was effective, the newsletter thing that was passed out prior to the game got everyone on the same page and was hilarious at the same time. I'm pretty sure those guys weren't acting in an official capacity, as it sometimes got a little more personal than would be allowed by the University. I don't think there needs to be anything official, just a group of fans that are passionate, persistent, and go above and beyond. It spread from the front row under the basket. I think professor chaos has said he was one of those guys, right? Maybe he can lend more insight.ChicAggie wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 1:34 pmI attended games at the Spectrum fairly regularly from approximately 80-81 season through the 82-83 season as a young teenager, then basically every game for the next two seasons as a junior/senior in HS who helped with parking through Ross Peterson, then every game during the 85-86, 88-89, 89-90, and 90-91 seasons as a student at USU. My memory may be faulty, but it seemed that the Spectrum was fairly full in those days, and while the student cheers weren't organized and coordinated, there was definitely significant participation. During my years as a student, I typically sat in the first three rows of the student section near half-court and was there for the toilet paper years, the Water Bomb, and general raucousness. We absolutely harassed opposing players by name (I remember particularly verbally harassing Michael Smith, Devin Durrant, Larry Johnson, and Stacy Augmon as much as possible) and kept up the volume throughout the game -- even during the down years. But it was nothing like the Wild Bill days.
What should happen is that the Athletics Department should mandate (to the extent it can) that a primary objective and function of the VP of Athletics every year is to recruit a large committee for both basketball and football (committee could have overlapping membership) whose primary purpose is recruiting other students to attend games and organizing cheers, activities, white-outs, costumes, etc. Maybe this happens already, but it certainly isn't being done the way it was during the Wild Bill era.
Fullove was my favorite player to cheer against. He talked back to us a few times and we were in his head from then on. It was over once a player acknowledged us.dyedblue wrote:The Spectrum rocked long before anything that had been Mentone in this thread.
The decibel meter
Free fries
Water Bombs
Tark Nights
Streaked
Toilet Paper
Late night ESPN games
Any instate game with Majerus or BYU
My Little Ponies chant to Cal Poly
Airball chants lasted the entire game, not just 10 seconds.
I rember a kid named Bradley from Utah elbowing Tony Brown in the back of the head. Dick Hunsaker went after Stew and every time Bradley touched the ball he was booed so loud you couldn't even think for the rest of the game.
There was a guy named Brandon Fullov for Santa Barbara that was a really good player. He decided to kick Desmond Penigar and again the fans booed him so loud and often he couldn't even catch the ball by the end of the game.
The list goes on, but the Spectrum had been great for a long time, what happened was the students got more organized and brought it consistently and our teams were as good as ever.
We just need clever students who understand the game. What set is apart was the smart fans that new when to cheer and when to jeer.
I talked to Lee Cummard and Anson Winder and both said it was hell to play in Logan because the crowd was so good, but they loved it.
The Theus look alike was great too.
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Here's a graphical representation of Average Spectrum attendance since the 1981-82 season.ChicAggie wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 1:34 pmI attended games at the Spectrum fairly regularly from approximately 80-81 season through the 82-83 season as a young teenager, then basically every game for the next two seasons as a junior/senior in HS who helped with parking through Ross Peterson, then every game during the 85-86, 88-89, 89-90, and 90-91 seasons as a student at USU. My memory may be faulty, but it seemed that the Spectrum was fairly full in those days, and while the student cheers weren't organized and coordinated, there was definitely significant participation. During my years as a student, I typically sat in the first three rows of the student section near half-court and was there for the toilet paper years, the Water Bomb, and general raucousness. We absolutely harassed opposing players by name (I remember particularly verbally harassing Michael Smith, Devin Durrant, Larry Johnson, and Stacy Augmon as much as possible) and kept up the volume throughout the game -- even during the down years. But it was nothing like the Wild Bill days.
What should happen is that the Athletics Department should mandate (to the extent it can) that a primary objective and function of the VP of Athletics every year is to recruit a large committee for both basketball and football (committee could have overlapping membership) whose primary purpose is recruiting other students to attend games and organizing cheers, activities, white-outs, costumes, etc. Maybe this happens already, but it certainly isn't being done the way it was during the Wild Bill era.
To be fair with this, it seems that the AD is now counting actual people in the stadium, and not just adding tickets sold to the number of student tickets available. At least that's the rumor that has been going around...treesap32 wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 2:38 pmHere's a graphical representation of Average Spectrum attendance since the 1981-82 season.ChicAggie wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 1:34 pmI attended games at the Spectrum fairly regularly from approximately 80-81 season through the 82-83 season as a young teenager, then basically every game for the next two seasons as a junior/senior in HS who helped with parking through Ross Peterson, then every game during the 85-86, 88-89, 89-90, and 90-91 seasons as a student at USU. My memory may be faulty, but it seemed that the Spectrum was fairly full in those days, and while the student cheers weren't organized and coordinated, there was definitely significant participation. During my years as a student, I typically sat in the first three rows of the student section near half-court and was there for the toilet paper years, the Water Bomb, and general raucousness. We absolutely harassed opposing players by name (I remember particularly verbally harassing Michael Smith, Devin Durrant, Larry Johnson, and Stacy Augmon as much as possible) and kept up the volume throughout the game -- even during the down years. But it was nothing like the Wild Bill days.
What should happen is that the Athletics Department should mandate (to the extent it can) that a primary objective and function of the VP of Athletics every year is to recruit a large committee for both basketball and football (committee could have overlapping membership) whose primary purpose is recruiting other students to attend games and organizing cheers, activities, white-outs, costumes, etc. Maybe this happens already, but it certainly isn't being done the way it was during the Wild Bill era.
For more detailed information you can go here:
http://www.usustats.com/seasons/
The attendance data by venue is located at the bottom of each season.
Bringing back the newsletter would be a great idea. As for whether it would be okay to do something like this in an "official capacity," as a former STAB Chair (among other things), I am confident student-led and student-run organizations can pretty much do whatever they want as long as it doesn't step WAY over the bounds of propriety and decency. While we had some administrative oversight, we never ran the things we planned and did past the administration, and we got away with things that I doubt the administration would have approved of if we had asked for permission. I definitely think it should be a mandate of the office of the Athletics VP (a student-elected position) to make sure these things get done. Giving that office some level of responsibility for boosting student attendance and participation would provide for some accountability and a level of organization that currently seems to be lacking.dirtnsnow wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 1:55 pmI was there for the wild Bill era. As for what was effective, the newsletter thing that was passed out prior to the game got everyone on the same page and was hilarious at the same time. I'm pretty sure those guys weren't acting in an official capacity, as it sometimes got a little more personal than would be allowed by the University. I don't think there needs to be anything official, just a group of fans that are passionate, persistent, and go above and beyond. It spread from the front row under the basket. I think professor chaos has said he was one of those guys, right? Maybe he can lend more insight.
Having been a season ticket holder for what seems forever, that graph looks very accurate to me.flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 3:15 pmTo be fair with this, it seems that the AD is now counting actual people in the stadium, and not just adding tickets sold to the number of student tickets available. At least that's the rumor that has been going around...treesap32 wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 2:38 pmHere's a graphical representation of Average Spectrum attendance since the 1981-82 season.ChicAggie wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 1:34 pmI attended games at the Spectrum fairly regularly from approximately 80-81 season through the 82-83 season as a young teenager, then basically every game for the next two seasons as a junior/senior in HS who helped with parking through Ross Peterson, then every game during the 85-86, 88-89, 89-90, and 90-91 seasons as a student at USU. My memory may be faulty, but it seemed that the Spectrum was fairly full in those days, and while the student cheers weren't organized and coordinated, there was definitely significant participation. During my years as a student, I typically sat in the first three rows of the student section near half-court and was there for the toilet paper years, the Water Bomb, and general raucousness. We absolutely harassed opposing players by name (I remember particularly verbally harassing Michael Smith, Devin Durrant, Larry Johnson, and Stacy Augmon as much as possible) and kept up the volume throughout the game -- even during the down years. But it was nothing like the Wild Bill days.
What should happen is that the Athletics Department should mandate (to the extent it can) that a primary objective and function of the VP of Athletics every year is to recruit a large committee for both basketball and football (committee could have overlapping membership) whose primary purpose is recruiting other students to attend games and organizing cheers, activities, white-outs, costumes, etc. Maybe this happens already, but it certainly isn't being done the way it was during the Wild Bill era.
For more detailed information you can go here:
http://www.usustats.com/seasons/
The attendance data by venue is located at the bottom of each season.
I'm not against that idea as long as we never have a repeat of our administration apologizing publicly to BYU ever again.ChicAggie wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 3:24 pmBringing back the newsletter would be a great idea. As for whether it would be okay to do something like this in an "official capacity," as a former STAB Chair (among other things), I am confident student-led and student-run organizations can pretty much do whatever they want as long as it doesn't step WAY over the bounds of propriety and decency. While we had some administrative oversight, we never ran the things we planned and did past the administration, and we got away with things that I doubt the administration would have approved of if we had asked for permission. I definitely think it should be a mandate of the office of the Athletics VP (a student-elected position) to make sure these things get done. Giving that office some level of responsibility for boosting student attendance and participation would provide for some accountability and a level of organization that currently seems to be lacking.dirtnsnow wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 1:55 pmI was there for the wild Bill era. As for what was effective, the newsletter thing that was passed out prior to the game got everyone on the same page and was hilarious at the same time. I'm pretty sure those guys weren't acting in an official capacity, as it sometimes got a little more personal than would be allowed by the University. I don't think there needs to be anything official, just a group of fans that are passionate, persistent, and go above and beyond. It spread from the front row under the basket. I think professor chaos has said he was one of those guys, right? Maybe he can lend more insight.
See this article about the recruitment of Neemias, and ubiquity of the rooster in his native Portugal. You should all crow like a rooster every time NQ gets a block. He'd get the reference, and it would be original, loud, easy to do and Aggie-centric. I waive all royalties.20Trae wrote: ↑January 10th, 2019, 9:05 pmI'm new to this board, so this probably deserves it is own topic but I can't start a new topic yet. As a student, I see the student attendance increasing, especially against Fresno, but the student energy still seems flat. Unfortunately, students don't seem as interested in going to the games, and have gravitated more towards the atmosphere of the hockey games. If you go to one of those, you will see its packed and insanely loud, even though they lose games. Obviously something needs to change to bring that back. Coach Smith has a huge been a huge addition and came to revive Spectrum Magic, but if fans/students do nothing its not going to change. Plus, Craig Smith almost had to spend more time cheering for that students to get loud than coaching I swear. I was in Junior High during the Spectrum Magic days and as a student now, I want to see that come back. Its seems as if the students don't even remember how to do that anymore. Since that was a while ago and I was pretty young, I don't remember all the cheers and what made it crazy. Besides the regular "I believe", "winning team losing team", "go big blue", and "right left right left" is about all we are capable of now, it seems we could do a lot more. Does anyone have any good ideas of cheers/chants that are catchy and can get the spectrum rocking all game long again? Its pathetic that student are willing to drive 10 minutes to a cold icy arena to pay 5 bucks, watch 2-3 goals, and a couple good hits when we can all get into the spectrum for free in a high intensity arena with a history of a great atmosphere.
This is what I was trying to say earlier. I was part of a group that carried the Spectrum for a time. It didn’t start with us and didn’t end with us. We used things from before and came up with a lot of new things.dyedblue wrote:The Spectrum rocked long before anything that had been Mentone in this thread.
The decibel meter
Free fries
Water Bombs
Tark Nights
Streaked
Toilet Paper
Late night ESPN games
Any instate game with Majerus or BYU
My Little Ponies chant to Cal Poly
Airball chants lasted the entire game, not just 10 seconds.
I rember a kid named Bradley from Utah elbowing Tony Brown in the back of the head. Dick Hunsaker went after Stew and every time Bradley touched the ball he was booed so loud you couldn't even think for the rest of the game.
There was a guy named Brandon Fullov for Santa Barbara that was a really good player. He decided to kick Desmond Penigar and again the fans booed him so loud and often he couldn't even catch the ball by the end of the game.
The list goes on, but the Spectrum had been great for a long time, what happened was the students got more organized and brought it consistently and our teams were as good as ever.
We just need clever students who understand the game. What set is apart was the smart fans that new when to cheer and when to jeer.
I talked to Lee Cummard and Anson Winder and both said it was hell to play in Logan because the crowd was so good, but they loved it.
The Theus look alike was great too.
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If they were, it wouldn't matter because that section was sold out to the students that purchased the "Hurd Premium."Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 8:27 amStudent section just needs a leader... or a few leaders. I think thats the diff between now amd 8 years ago. Any students on here willing to be front row for every game and get things back in order?
Im sure wild bill has long moved on but USU should pay him a lot of money to come back for a season and show the young guns how it's done.
Well I am pretty certain that the local owners of TacoTime read this board. So come on guys get on ithipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑January 12th, 2019, 11:24 pmHow has the local Taco Bell or Del Taco not latched onto the immense promotional opportunity in front of them? Forget free fries, every game that Bean and Brito combine for 10 pts it should be free bean burritos for everyone in attendance.
We should commission a re-write of The Day the Music Died, in sad remembrance of the USU AD castrating the fans and killing the Spectrum Magic through that travesty. That action alone kicked off a sequence of events that are haunting the Spectrum fan experience to this very day.dirtnsnow wrote:I'm not against that idea as long as we never have a repeat of our administration apologizing publicly to BYU ever again.ChicAggie wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 3:24 pmBringing back the newsletter would be a great idea. As for whether it would be okay to do something like this in an "official capacity," as a former STAB Chair (among other things), I am confident student-led and student-run organizations can pretty much do whatever they want as long as it doesn't step WAY over the bounds of propriety and decency. While we had some administrative oversight, we never ran the things we planned and did past the administration, and we got away with things that I doubt the administration would have approved of if we had asked for permission. I definitely think it should be a mandate of the office of the Athletics VP (a student-elected position) to make sure these things get done. Giving that office some level of responsibility for boosting student attendance and participation would provide for some accountability and a level of organization that currently seems to be lacking.dirtnsnow wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 1:55 pmI was there for the wild Bill era. As for what was effective, the newsletter thing that was passed out prior to the game got everyone on the same page and was hilarious at the same time. I'm pretty sure those guys weren't acting in an official capacity, as it sometimes got a little more personal than would be allowed by the University. I don't think there needs to be anything official, just a group of fans that are passionate, persistent, and go above and beyond. It spread from the front row under the basket. I think professor chaos has said he was one of those guys, right? Maybe he can lend more insight.
This. IMO the front-row-led chants contributed greatly to killing the spectrum. Just be loud. Chant the obvious(left-right, aiiiiiiiiir balllllllllll, whoosh, etc). Don't try to lead fans like sheep in what they're supposed to be cheering. It all felt stupid to me when the front row became the student section leadership group.
HELL NO. It needs the opposite.Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 11th, 2019, 8:27 amStudent section just needs a leader... or a few leaders. I think thats the diff between now amd 8 years ago. Any students on here willing to be front row for every game and get things back in order?
Im sure wild bill has long moved on but USU should pay him a lot of money to come back for a season and show the young guns how it's done.
So I just read how people were being turned away at the door from the last hockey game due to the building being at capacity. This used to happen 20 years ago when the hockey team played their home games at Weber St. so it's not really a surprise. What is a surprise is that there is this much interest in the hockey team when it is quite possibly the worst hockey team we have had in two decades! Honestly, losing to BYU at all - let alone multiple times in a season? having a losing record? Great for the hockey team to still be able to draw the interest of students despite being historically bad, but this may go to prove that the current classes of students have grown accustomed to showing support to winners (like the hockey team) and now, even though they are awful, they still draw a crowd because that is the culture the current students know.20Trae wrote: ↑January 10th, 2019, 9:05 pmI'm new to this board, so this probably deserves it is own topic but I can't start a new topic yet. As a student, I see the student attendance increasing, especially against Fresno, but the student energy still seems flat. Unfortunately, students don't seem as interested in going to the games, and have gravitated more towards the atmosphere of the hockey games. If you go to one of those, you will see its packed and insanely loud, even though they lose games. Obviously something needs to change to bring that back. Coach Smith has a huge been a huge addition and came to revive Spectrum Magic, but if fans/students do nothing its not going to change. Plus, Craig Smith almost had to spend more time cheering for that students to get loud than coaching I swear. I was in Junior High during the Spectrum Magic days and as a student now, I want to see that come back. Its seems as if the students don't even remember how to do that anymore. Since that was a while ago and I was pretty young, I don't remember all the cheers and what made it crazy. Besides the regular "I believe", "winning team losing team", "go big blue", and "right left right left" is about all we are capable of now, it seems we could do a lot more. Does anyone have any good ideas of cheers/chants that are catchy and can get the spectrum rocking all game long again? Its pathetic that student are willing to drive 10 minutes to a cold icy arena to pay 5 bucks, watch 2-3 goals, and a couple good hits when we can all get into the spectrum for free in a high intensity arena with a history of a great atmosphere.