Net Rankings
Posted: January 16th, 2019, 10:28 am
We are #40 in the Net Rankings at this moment.
Link or it didn't happen
#39... Up one spottreesap32 wrote:We'll likely drop after beating SJSU.
Yeah back to 40 after SJSU but that’s really not a drop. I expected to drop 5 spots due to a hit in SOS vs SJSU. That’s promising that we shouldn’t drop to bad through conference play as long as we don’t lose to the bottom teams. Any loss other than to Nevada or Fresno will hurt us bad.brownjeans wrote:At 40 again now.
I keep thinking that NET ranking is supposed to be meaningful to me. I have seen no NCAA projection that includes more than one MWC team being invited to the tourney. Team Rankings has 26 teams ahead of for the last NCAA slot and shows that we have a 21% chance of making the tourney. They believe our conference record will be 12-6.aceofspadeskb wrote: ↑January 25th, 2019, 2:16 pmI just get the feeling that NET rankings will be ignored by the committee. Can't have a mighty giant like Kansas dropping to double digits.
All of those scenarios seem like legit possibilities right now, good and bad. Likes been said elsewhere, we will see where we stand in the next few games against the middle of the league.utaggies wrote:I keep thinking that NET ranking is supposed to be meaningful to me. I have seen no NCAA projection that includes more than one MWC team being invited to the tourney. Team Rankings has 26 teams ahead of for the last NCAA slot and shows that we have a 21% chance of making the tourney. They believe our conference record will be 12-6.aceofspadeskb wrote: ↑January 25th, 2019, 2:16 pmI just get the feeling that NET rankings will be ignored by the committee. Can't have a mighty giant like Kansas dropping to double digits.
Dratings has us a #2 seed in the NIT, along with Fresno St.
The Washington Post has us one of the first four out of the NCAAs.
SBNation has 10 teams ahead of us for the last NCAA berth.
SI has us in the last 16 out group. Fresno is in the last 8 out group.
As I see it our path to the NCAA tourney must include no more than 2 more conference losses, finishing in second place, and getting to the championship game in the conference tourney. Anything less than that, regardless of NET, gets us an NIT invite.
To preserve an NIT invite I believe we can finish no lower than 3rd in the conference, have no more than 4 more losses and reach at least the semi-finals of the conference tourney.
It didn't. The top of the list says: Through Games JAN. 25, 2019
I heard him say that and thought about the margin of victory cap. I didn’t think about the efficiency rating. What is the formula for efficiency rating?ChicAggie wrote:During last night's game, one of the commentators complained about NET Rankings because he does not like that it rewards a team for beating a 300th ranked team by 30 more than beating a 90th ranked team by 10. Since the Margin of Victory component is capped at 10, I assume the commentator believes that because "Net Efficiency" is the second most important component of NET calculation, the boost in Net Efficiency a team gets by beating a 300th ranked team by 30 is more valuable than the Team Value Index boost the team would achieve by beating a 90th ranked team by 10. Seems like the commentator is probably wrong, but I wonder if there is any validity to that point. It might explain USU's fairly high ranking: we beat some mediocre teams early in the season by huge margins and built up a fairly strong Net Efficiency number as a result. That seems to be carrying over. The Ags ORtg is 110.1 (61st of 353 NCAA teams) and their DRtg is 91.9 (19th). That gives us a Net Rating of 18.2, which has got to be one of the top 30 Net Ratings in the NCAA.
The formula for team Offensive Rating (ORtg) is 100 * (PTS Scored/Possessions).
That’s what I would have guessed. But the Aggies went on the road and got a good victory against a decent, but not great opponent, and was passed up by four high-major teams.Cuchelain wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 2:33 pmI’m pretty sure that the reason for our strong net rating is road wins. A few weeks ago when I looked at some of the teams around us that might seem like they should be ranked higher I noticed that all the major conference teams didn’t have any true road games or at most a couple of them. We have a pretty good number of road wins.
And in defeat your coach loses his job. Last year’s SJS loss was the nail in the coffin for Duryea. He was a dead man walking afterward. Not even a decent MWC tourney could save him.hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 3:27 pmUgh, SJSU. The clap of the MW. Playing with them is a lose:lose in any sport. Even in victory you walk away worse off than when you started.
While I always hate to lose, all things considered, that was a great loss for our program...utaggies wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 4:13 pmAnd in defeat your coach loses his job. Last year’s SJS loss was the nail in the coffin for Duryea. He was a dead man walking afterward. Not even a decent MWC tourney could save him.hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 3:27 pmUgh, SJSU. The clap of the MW. Playing with them is a lose:lose in any sport. Even in victory you walk away worse off than when you started.
Stage fright while playing in Provo is unstandable with how all the guys down there stare at you while you pee.Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 6:18 pmI have been trying to stay away from comparing last year to this year but since its been brought up again prob my biggest issue with duryea was he couldnt get the team motivated and bringing their A game night in and night out. He actually had some decent wins (i.e. at unlv and in the conference tourney) last year but you never knew which aggie team was going to show up. So far Coach Smith has done a great job at getting the guys ready and in the zone to play every game, minus BYU which i think was more just stage fright.
Its refreshing to know that we wont have let downs in games we should for sure win and will show up and play well for the big games also.
Lol. I know i had some major stage fright while i was down there as well. It was REALLY awkward.hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 9:53 pmStage fright while playing in Provo is unstandable with how all the guys down there stare at you while you pee.Usu0505 wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 6:18 pmI have been trying to stay away from comparing last year to this year but since its been brought up again prob my biggest issue with duryea was he couldnt get the team motivated and bringing their A game night in and night out. He actually had some decent wins (i.e. at unlv and in the conference tourney) last year but you never knew which aggie team was going to show up. So far Coach Smith has done a great job at getting the guys ready and in the zone to play every game, minus BYU which i think was more just stage fright.
Its refreshing to know that we wont have let downs in games we should for sure win and will show up and play well for the big games also.
The Aggies moved up from 40 to 38 today after not playing on Sunday, and one day after dropping four spots following a loss.dogie wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 2:48 pmUtah State will move up a few more spots this week before beating SJSU, when they will drop well into the 40s.Cuchelain wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 2:33 pmI’m pretty sure that the reason for our strong net rating is road wins. A few weeks ago when I looked at some of the teams around us that might seem like they should be ranked higher I noticed that all the major conference teams didn’t have any true road games or at most a couple of them. We have a pretty good number of road wins.
fixed it for you.dogie wrote: ↑January 28th, 2019, 1:58 pmThe Aggies moved up from 40 to 38 today after not playing on Sunday, and one day after dropping four spots following a road win.dogie wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 2:48 pmUtah State will move up a few more spots this week before beating SJSU, when they will drop well into the 40s.Cuchelain wrote: ↑January 27th, 2019, 2:33 pmI’m pretty sure that the reason for our strong net rating is road wins. A few weeks ago when I looked at some of the teams around us that might seem like they should be ranked higher I noticed that all the major conference teams didn’t have any true road games or at most a couple of them. We have a pretty good number of road wins.
I think it was just byu playing really well. Look at their home record and games.Usu0505 wrote:I have been trying to stay away from comparing last year to this year but since its been brought up again prob my biggest issue with duryea was he couldnt get the team motivated and bringing their A game night in and night out. He actually had some decent wins (i.e. at unlv and in the conference tourney) last year but you never knew which aggie team was going to show up. So far Coach Smith has done a great job at getting the guys ready and in the zone to play every game, minus BYU which i think was more just stage fright.
Its refreshing to know that we wont have let downs in games we should for sure win and will show up and play well for the big games also.