Queta. 18 pts, 15 reb, 6 ast, 4 blk

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Post by pablohoney » February 5th, 2019, 10:30 pm

Queta is my most favorite Aggie basketball player in my lifetime.
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Post by 918AGG » February 5th, 2019, 10:32 pm

Jay-cee Car-roll :clap: :clap: :clap, clap, clap:


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Post by QuackAttackAggie » February 5th, 2019, 10:35 pm

918AGG wrote:Jay-cee Top 5 for me for sure. Best game of his career. Miller really played well too. And brito had one of the greatest passes I've seen. Too bad it went for a turnover.


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Post by pablohoney » February 5th, 2019, 10:39 pm

JC was amazing to be sure and a true legend. But I've never seen an Aggie absolutely dominate all facets of the game as Queta did tonight. And he's only a true freshman. 18 points, 15 rebounds, 6 assists, 4 blocks in a critical road win.
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Post by bluegrouse » February 5th, 2019, 10:44 pm

Is it bad for me to want him to tone it down a bit so we can keep him one more year?????

Incredible game tonight. Wow!
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Post by SectionBAggie » February 5th, 2019, 10:45 pm

Taylor from FSU makes a living at the FT line. Many of his shots have no expectations of going in. Just trying to draw a foul.

Tonight he had many of his drives cut off as he looked up and saw Queta.

It’s not a measurable stat but I think Queta kept him off the line.



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Post by NVAggie » February 5th, 2019, 10:48 pm

Queta played great. He is the difference maker. I’m still partial to Merrill though.



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Post by MetsJetsAggies » February 5th, 2019, 10:51 pm

Queta is the most talented player since Estes I'd guess. Merrill is not far behind, if Koby stayed it would've been a crazy amount of talent for one team
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Post by mcaggie1 » February 5th, 2019, 11:02 pm

MetsJetsAggies wrote:
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Queta is the most talented player since Estes I'd guess. Merrill is not far behind, if Koby stayed it would've been a crazy amount of talent for one team
You must have never seen Nate Williams.



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Post by pablohoney » February 5th, 2019, 11:04 pm

Also fitting that in this game Queta has surpassed the single season total blocks record previously held by Shawn Daniels.



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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » February 5th, 2019, 11:14 pm

MetsJetsAggies wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 10:51 pm
Queta is the most talented player since Estes I'd guess. Merrill is not far behind, if Koby stayed it would've been a crazy amount of talent for one team
I know this will be controversial but I don't think we'd be as good with McEwen this year. His leaving allowed Merrill's leadership to take over the team and I don't think he would've bought into the ball movement philosophy this team has adopted.
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Post by bigblue » February 5th, 2019, 11:19 pm

918AGG wrote:Jay-cee Car-roll :clap: :clap: :clap, clap, clap:
I really wish I paid more attention to Aggie basketball when he played. I really didn't much till my cousin got me to a game as a student. Just happened to be the last time Utah played in Logan. That game got me hooked.

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Post by aggiesdotcom » February 5th, 2019, 11:19 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:14 pm
MetsJetsAggies wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 10:51 pm
Queta is the most talented player since Estes I'd guess. Merrill is not far behind, if Koby stayed it would've been a crazy amount of talent for one team
I know this will be controversial but I don't think we'd be as good with McEwen this year. His leaving allowed Merrill's leadership to take over the team and I don't think he would've bought into the ball movement philosophy this team has adopted.
That is not controversial to anyone who understands team basketball.



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Post by usufan1 » February 5th, 2019, 11:21 pm

pablohoney wrote:JC was amazing to be sure and a true legend. But I've never seen an Aggie absolutely dominate all facets of the game as Queta did tonight. And he's only a true freshman. 18 points, 15 rebounds, 6 assists, 4 blocks in a critical road win.
Incredible game and I love that Queta got the team involved.

One of the first possessions for Fresno State their player drove towards Queta and stopped just short of him and them tried to shoot over him. The effect he has on the game is unreal.

Also loved his performance while a fan held a sign that said "Queta sucks".

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Post by Ag4life » February 5th, 2019, 11:26 pm

aggiesdotcom wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:19 pm
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:14 pm
MetsJetsAggies wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 10:51 pm
Queta is the most talented player since Estes I'd guess. Merrill is not far behind, if Koby stayed it would've been a crazy amount of talent for one team
I know this will be controversial but I don't think we'd be as good with McEwen this year. His leaving allowed Merrill's leadership to take over the team and I don't think he would've bought into the ball movement philosophy this team has adopted.
That is not controversial to anyone who understands team basketball.
The only reason it should be controversial is whether or not we think Smith could have controlled Koby a bit more and made him a team player. After seeing the offense duryea ran last year compared to smith, I’d say there’s a good shot Smith would have maximized that talent to work for this team.
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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » February 5th, 2019, 11:32 pm

Ag4life wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:26 pm
aggiesdotcom wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:19 pm
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:14 pm
MetsJetsAggies wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 10:51 pm
Queta is the most talented player since Estes I'd guess. Merrill is not far behind, if Koby stayed it would've been a crazy amount of talent for one team
I know this will be controversial but I don't think we'd be as good with McEwen this year. His leaving allowed Merrill's leadership to take over the team and I don't think he would've bought into the ball movement philosophy this team has adopted.
That is not controversial to anyone who understands team basketball.
The only reason it should be controversial is whether or not we think Smith could have controlled Koby a bit more and made him a team player. After seeing the offense duryea ran last year compared to smith, I’d say there’s a good shot Smith would have maximized that talent to work for this team.
Except we already saw that selfish players don't work in his system with the JK3 situation.



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Post by MetsJetsAggies » February 5th, 2019, 11:39 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:14 pm
MetsJetsAggies wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 10:51 pm
Queta is the most talented player since Estes I'd guess. Merrill is not far behind, if Koby stayed it would've been a crazy amount of talent for one team
I know this will be controversial but I don't think we'd be as good with McEwen this year. His leaving allowed Merrill's leadership to take over the team and I don't think he would've bought into the ball movement philosophy this team has adopted.
I don't disagree, just saying the talent level would have been crazy on one team. We might have lost more games but we'd be more dangerous with him at PG



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Post by MetsJetsAggies » February 5th, 2019, 11:40 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:32 pm
Ag4life wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:26 pm
aggiesdotcom wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:19 pm
hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:14 pm
MetsJetsAggies wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 10:51 pm
Queta is the most talented player since Estes I'd guess. Merrill is not far behind, if Koby stayed it would've been a crazy amount of talent for one team
I know this will be controversial but I don't think we'd be as good with McEwen this year. His leaving allowed Merrill's leadership to take over the team and I don't think he would've bought into the ball movement philosophy this team has adopted.
That is not controversial to anyone who understands team basketball.
The only reason it should be controversial is whether or not we think Smith could have controlled Koby a bit more and made him a team player. After seeing the offense duryea ran last year compared to smith, I’d say there’s a good shot Smith would have maximized that talent to work for this team.
Except we already saw that selfish players don't work in his system with the JK3 situation.
Ehhh, we looked like a much better team with JK3 at times. He was a little selfish offensively but overall he brought a lot to the table. Porter has stepped up big time though and we are peaking at the right time



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Post by bluegrouse » February 5th, 2019, 11:53 pm

One other very big point about Queta tonight. After he picked up his third foul early in the second half, Smith left him in the game when conventional wisdom would say you sit him for awhile. He didn’t pick up another one.

One more point: he was 8/9 from the field

And one more thing: one of those was a three...

What a game for the big guy!



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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » February 6th, 2019, 12:01 am

bluegrouse wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:53 pm
One other very big point about Queta tonight. After he picked up his third foul early in the second half, Smith left him in the game when conventional wisdom would say you sit him for awhile. He didn’t pick up another one.
I've never understood the coaching philosophy of sitting your top players when they're in foul trouble. In order to save players for the final minutes, it seems counterproductive to sit them for extended periods while the game is still being decided.
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Post by NAggsty Butler » February 6th, 2019, 12:08 am

bigblue wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:19 pm
918AGG wrote:Jay-cee Car-roll :clap: :clap: :clap, clap, clap:
I really wish I paid more attention to Aggie basketball when he played. I really didn't much till my cousin got me to a game as a student. Just happened to be the last time Utah played in Logan. That game got me hooked.

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Post by brownjeans » February 6th, 2019, 12:17 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 12:01 am
bluegrouse wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:53 pm
One other very big point about Queta tonight. After he picked up his third foul early in the second half, Smith left him in the game when conventional wisdom would say you sit him for awhile. He didn’t pick up another one.
I've never understood the coaching philosophy of sitting your top players when they're in foul trouble. In order to save players for the final minutes, it seems counterproductive to sit them for extended periods while the game is still being decided.
I'm with you on this. If your best player gets 3 fouls in the first half and you sit him for 10 minutes - only playing him for about 8 minutes in the final 10. The game ends, he finishes with 4 fouls, and you lose a close game because you didn't play him every possible minute... That's no bueno.



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Post by MetsJetsAggies » February 6th, 2019, 12:23 am

I think it has more to do with the psyche of the players and also the fact that you want your best players on the floor in crunch time. Obviously you can't go down a bunch in the interim but possessions at the end of close games are played a bit differently than possessions with 15 mins left in the game. You want to tread water to save your best players for crunch time when there's more stress and importance on each possession



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Post by QuackAttackAggie » February 6th, 2019, 1:32 am

NAggsty Butler wrote:
bigblue wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:19 pm
918AGG wrote:Jay-cee Car-roll :clap: :clap: :clap, clap, clap:
I really wish I paid more attention to Aggie basketball when he played. I really didn't much till my cousin got me to a game as a student. Just happened to be the last time Utah played in Logan. That game got me hooked.

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That little curl from the baseline off the screen to the angle opposite our bench will be forever seared in my brain. He remains the most dynamic and exciting player I’ve ever watched at Utah State. Nemi will likely be in the running before we’re through tho. Love everything about him.



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Post by utaggies » February 6th, 2019, 2:17 am

And the outcome of the NMS game where Jaycee hit 10 three-ponters? We lost. And we lost to them in the Spectrum, too.



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Post by SLB » February 6th, 2019, 2:19 am

NBA talent is there, but Queta has to know that making NBA is no guarantee.
I hope that he stays here for 4 years because Utah State can be a powerhouse team with Queta and help him in getting a degree.



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Post by bluegrouse » February 6th, 2019, 2:32 am

utaggies wrote:
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And the outcome of the NMS game where Jaycee hit 10 three-ponters? We lost. And we lost to them in the Spectrum, too.
What’s your point? Great players still lose games once in awhile.

Wayne Estes scored 52 points against Boston College which, 54 years later, remains the most points in a game by a Utah State player. We lost the game in overtime. Does that somehow diminish Wayne Estes?



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Post by QuackAttackAggie » February 6th, 2019, 3:13 am

utaggies wrote:And the outcome of the NMS game where Jaycee hit 10 three-ponters? We lost. And we lost to them in the Spectrum, too.

And LeBron lost by 42 last night. Odd statement.


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Post by utaggies » February 6th, 2019, 5:51 am

bluegrouse wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 2:32 am
utaggies wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 2:17 am
And the outcome of the NMS game where Jaycee hit 10 three-ponters? We lost. And we lost to them in the Spectrum, too.
What’s your point? Great players still lose games once in awhile.

Wayne Estes scored 52 points against Boston College which, 54 years later, remains the most points in a game by a Utah State player. We lost the game in overtime. Does that somehow diminish Wayne Estes?
There was really no particular point I was trying to make. I remember the NMS games that year, especially with Jaycee going off on them in Las Cruces. In spite of his great game, we lost. And no, that doesn’t diminish from him.. He’s still, IMO, the best player who put on a USU uniform in the last 50 years.



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QuackAttackAggie wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 3:13 am
utaggies wrote:And the outcome of the NMS game where Jaycee hit 10 three-ponters? We lost. And we lost to them in the Spectrum, too.

And LeBron lost by 42 last night. Odd statement.
Don't bring LeBron into this. He's the GOAT.



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Post by hickaggie » February 6th, 2019, 7:55 am

918AGG wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 10:32 pm
Jay-cee Car-roll :clap: :clap: :clap, clap, clap:
I was thinking more about this obscure guard playing on some also ran European Team.




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Post by Usu0505 » February 6th, 2019, 8:06 am

I saw a comment on sam being better than carroll. Initially i agreed but all these highlights reminded me just how amazing Jaycee was.

Anybody with a more knowledgeable mind than mine know why Jaycee never got a shot in the league? I would think he could have been a kyle korver type easily.



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Post by dirtnsnow » February 6th, 2019, 8:11 am

Usu0505 wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 8:06 am
I saw a comment on sam being better than carroll. Initially i agreed but all these highlights reminded me just how amazing Jaycee was.

Anybody with a more knowledgeable mind than mine know why Jaycee never got a shot in the league? I would think he could have been a kyle korver type easily.
It boils down to size. Jaycee is listed at 6'2", while korver is 6'7". The NBA values measurables very highly.


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Post by pablohoney » February 6th, 2019, 8:16 am

This wasn't meant for a GOAT debate, that title clearly belongs to Larry Bird. Who my favorite player is and who the better player is are not necessarily one and the same, and comparing eras and positions in the debate of GOAT is always a ridiculous debate. The thing I love about Queta is that I look forward to what he's going to do next on both ends of the floor on every single possession. Last night was the perfect example. He grabs nearly every rebound without contest, dominates in the post and has developed an impressive hook shot, he blocked a ton of shots and altered even more, he forced Fresno to start hurling 3's, he opens up 3's on offense with his commanding presence in the paint, he has fun with the fans and the refs, and hit a 3 pointer to top it all off. I love watching his confidence grow each game. I fear we'll only have him for 1 more season but if he were to play all 4 there's little doubt in my mind he'd be the greatest Aggie legend since Wayne Estes.



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