So what exactly is Koby McEwen thinking right now....?

kofdog · Post by **kofdog** » March 7th, 2019, 8:55 am

Hold the phone there people, all I said was we are better without him. Never blamed him for anything, just said as a TEAM, we are better without him. Have my reasons and things I've heard that make me think that but relax a little.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » March 7th, 2019, 8:57 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 7:42 am
Don't put the blame squarely on Koby for the poor performances over the previous two years. That should go to Duryea. He just wasn't a good head coach. We now know what a good head coach looks like.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » March 7th, 2019, 9:00 am

What is that? A gigapixel camera? Beautiful.

JonnyCienPesos · Post by **JonnyCienPesos** » March 7th, 2019, 10:06 am

It’s not like Marquette sucks. They’re ranked 16. I would say both parties are happy with where they are at.

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Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » March 7th, 2019, 10:41 am

JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 10:06 am
It’s not like Marquette sucks. They’re ranked 16. I would say both parties are happy with where they are at.

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McEwen isn't playing. Sitting out a year.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » March 7th, 2019, 10:41 am

JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 10:06 am
It’s not like Marquette sucks. They’re ranked 16. I would say both parties are happy with where they are at.

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McEwen isn't playing. Sitting out a year.

JonnyCienPesos · Post by **JonnyCienPesos** » March 7th, 2019, 10:59 am

Sl7vk wrote:
JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 10:06 am
It’s not like Marquette sucks. They’re ranked 16. I would say both parties are happy with where they are at.

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McEwen isn't playing. Sitting out a year.

And?

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2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » March 7th, 2019, 12:16 pm

kofdog wrote:Hold the phone there people, all I said was we are better without him. Never blamed him for anything, just said as a TEAM, we are better without him. Have my reasons and things I've heard that make me think that but relax a little.

As soon as somebody leaves, Aggie fans feel the need to trash the guy, and I don’t get it.

And no, we weren’t better off without Collette either, even though some people tried to spin that we were.

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kofdog · Post by **kofdog** » March 7th, 2019, 12:22 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 12:16 pm

kofdog wrote:Hold the phone there people, all I said was we are better without him. Never blamed him for anything, just said as a TEAM, we are better without him. Have my reasons and things I've heard that make me think that but relax a little.
As soon as somebody leaves, Aggie fans feel the need to trash the guy, and I don’t get it.

And no, we weren’t better off without Collette either, even though some people tried to spin that we were.

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That's not my style though, I have my reasons and I PM'd you. But Collette, I never said that, frankly we sucked without him. We needed him.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » March 7th, 2019, 12:56 pm

People transfer. I don’t hold anything against Koby or Marcel. I hold a lot against Collette. And I held a lesser grudge against Stone, Berger & Kyle Davis- and I’m over those.

Collette can ride a bike without a seat.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » March 7th, 2019, 1:03 pm

He's thinking what every college basketball player thinks:
I think the girl in my math class is cute, I'm going to chat her up.
I'm hungry.
I'm gonna work hard, get better, impress the coach, etc.
I should call my mom.

What he's not thinking:
Anything about USU.

Pacobag · Post by **Pacobag** » March 7th, 2019, 1:14 pm

For the 2017-18 season
BSU was 13-5 in conference (2nd) and 23-9 overall
USU was 8-10 in conference (8th) and 17-17 overall

So far in the 2018-19 season
BSU is 6-11 in conference (9th) and 11-19 overall
USU is 15-3 in conference (1st) and 25-6 overall

Where was Duryea each season?

I know there are plenty of factors that impact team performance but I still find this data interesting.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » March 7th, 2019, 1:28 pm

Since I love beating dead horses I'm going to beat the $h!+ out of this one.

Maybe he's thinking:

Will Marcus Howard be leaving early to the NBA?
If Marcus doesn't leave to the NBA he will be backing me up at the one spot.
If I stay all two remaining years I’ll be the leading scorer.
I feel like I can be the best player to come through this school if I play here all two years.
Brendan Bailey better let me have my number 1 back because I'm actually number 1.
I will be the Big East Conference Player of the year next season.
I look at myself and say I'm an NBA guy.
Is three turnovers per game too many?
Who ever told you that there is no "I" in Team is full of $h!+!

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » March 7th, 2019, 1:37 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 12:56 pm
People transfer. I don’t hold anything against Koby or Marcel. I hold a lot against Collette. And I held a lesser grudge against Stone, Berger & Kyle Davis- and I’m over those.

Collette can ride a bike without a seat.

We didn't miss

But then again, we weren't in the game in the first place without him.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » March 7th, 2019, 2:14 pm

Man, what could Smith have done with Jalen's game?

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » March 7th, 2019, 2:29 pm

This team would've been better with Koby. Can you imagine pick and rolls between he and Queta? Unfair. It's already unfair with Merrill and he's not near the athlete. I wish Koby well and hope he has success at Marquette. He was dealt a bad hand here with a HC that couldn't maximize his (or anybody elses) talents. I don't fault him for leaving.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » March 7th, 2019, 3:21 pm

On a basketball note having him here may not have neccesarily made as big of an impact as we believe. More so, him leaving allowed others to step up and get recognized.

Remember that OKC team with Durant, Westbrook and Harden? If those three staty together Harden probably doesn’t become the player he is today. I dont think looking at games we lost we would necessarily have won @ U
Nevada, or beaten BYU or Houston.

Maybe we beat Fresno, but maybe we lose a close game we won.

Great player. But we did great and I would rather cheer with the players we do have.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » March 7th, 2019, 5:36 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 12:16 pm

kofdog wrote:Hold the phone there people, all I said was we are better without him. Never blamed him for anything, just said as a TEAM, we are better without him. Have my reasons and things I've heard that make me think that but relax a little.
As soon as somebody leaves, Aggie fans feel the need to trash the guy, and I don’t get it.

And no, we weren’t better off without Collette either, even though some people tried to spin that we were.

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I disagree that having a discussion whether we would be better or worse with a certain player is trashing the guy. I have nothing against Koby as a person and you could be right, we may be better with him. The situation with Koby leaving and Collette leaving are different animals. We clearly were not better without Collette. Collette leaving basically got Duryea fired. Had Collette stayed we probably win 5 more games a year on average over the past 3 years and there is no coaching change. Our big men during Duryea's tenure were not good to put it politely. The dislike towards Collette was emotional with how he left and where he went. He hurt USU by leaving precisely because he was a good player and without him we were a worse team.

Koby on the other hand leaves and we are regular season champs the very next season. I agree I would love to have as many 4 star recruits as possible and put them with a great coach. I was happier than a fat kid in a candy store when we got Koby. I was also as upset when he left as any pl ayer that left in the program in my lifetime. It was a real buzzkill since I thought him and Merrill with a great coach could do great things. However after watching things play out, maybe a ball dominant guard who struggled shooting wouldn't have been a good fit on this team.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » March 7th, 2019, 5:43 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 3:21 pm
On a basketball note having him here may not have neccesarily made as big of an impact as we believe. More so, him leaving allowed others to step up and get recognized.

Remember that OKC team with Durant, Westbrook and Harden? If those three staty together Harden probably doesn’t become the player he is today. I dont think looking at games we lost we would necessarily have won @ U
Nevada, or beaten BYU or Houston.

Maybe we beat Fresno, but maybe we lose a close game we won.

Great player. But we did great and I would rather cheer with the players we do have.

I agree for the most part. Many games could go either way with Koby. He could go off like he did against Nevada in the Spectrum last year, or he could go 3-12 like he did against Nevada in Reno. That was a pattern for him over the course of the year.

As far as the Thunder, James Harden is a good metaphor. The Thunder were never as good as they were during the 2012 season when they had the MVP3. After the Beard left, they never reached the finals again. Had the beard stayed and bought in they could have been a dynasty. Problem is, more than likely he would have got upset being the 3rd wheel and demanded a trade, being a locker room problem on his way out.

dyedblue · Post by **dyedblue** » March 7th, 2019, 5:43 pm

We would not have a better record with Koby than we have now. I love this team and couldn't care less what Koby or Duryea think.

I can't believe how desensitized I had become to the mediocre state of USU basketball. This season had been a joy.

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Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » March 7th, 2019, 5:46 pm

kofdog wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 8:55 am
Hold the phone there people, all I said was we are better without him. Never blamed him for anything, just said as a TEAM, we are better without him. Have my reasons and things I've heard that make me think that but relax a little.

Yep, there is nothing wrong with your opinion. Having a discussion about a player's on court performance and whether he would fit with the current MW championship team is not a discussion that should be out of bounds. If we were attacking him personally I would agree, but nobody in this thread has said anything negative about Koby the man.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » March 8th, 2019, 9:11 am

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 5:46 pm

kofdog wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 8:55 am
Hold the phone there people, all I said was we are better without him. Never blamed him for anything, just said as a TEAM, we are better without him. Have my reasons and things I've heard that make me think that but relax a little.
Yep, there is nothing wrong with your opinion. Having a discussion about a player's on court performance and whether he would fit with the current MW championship team is not a discussion that should be out of bounds. If we were attacking him personally I would agree, but nobody in this thread has said anything negative about Koby the man.

I think we would be better with Koby. A skilled and athletic PG would be an amazing asset in the offensive scheme and maybe even more so with the stifling defense we are already playing. I love me some Abel Porter, but Koby would add a lot to this team.

ChicAggie · Post by **ChicAggie** » March 8th, 2019, 11:48 am

Madmartigan wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2019, 9:11 am
I think we would be better with Koby. A skilled and athletic PG would be an amazing asset in the offensive scheme and maybe even more so with the stifling defense we are already playing. I love me some Abel Porter, but Koby would add a lot to this team.

Without question.

Aggie-Man · Post by **Aggie-Man** » March 8th, 2019, 12:57 pm

We would not be any worse and probably be better because under coach Smith you either play team ball or you don't play ball.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » March 8th, 2019, 1:09 pm

Aggie-Man wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2019, 12:57 pm
We would not be any worse and probably be better because under coach Smith you either play team ball or you don't play ball.

I think he would've gotten Koby to buy-in. He's a master motivator.

buckfever · Post by **buckfever** » March 8th, 2019, 1:21 pm

Koby. Fantastic player. Would have been great under smith. Only if smith could reign in his whining to referees. Dozens of times he was late getting back on defense. Definetly a huge talent. NBA likely. Hope he has a great coach which I feel he does. Here’s to his future success. Go hard koby. Focus on the game

Usurossco · Post by **Usurossco** » March 9th, 2019, 8:02 am

Quite frankly the kind of game we play now is not Koby’s style. We share the ball and win doing it so I’m happy. It’s all about the team now.

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Post by **AggiesForever** » March 9th, 2019, 9:06 am

I wonder what having T.L Plain as coach would have meant to this team?

buckfever · Post by **buckfever** » March 9th, 2019, 12:06 pm

Oh my god. TL plain. Worst boring horrible offense by any coach in the United States
Aggies forever. You did this just to make me upset. You just made my colon explode with dureay (Reah) Ha. New referral to previous coach just hatched whilst on throne. Coach DUREAY- REAH. Dureay reaah. Crappy coach.

ChicAggie · Post by **ChicAggie** » March 9th, 2019, 12:10 pm

buckfever wrote: ↑
March 9th, 2019, 12:06 pm
Oh my god. TL plain. Worst boring horrible offense by any coach in the United States
Aggies forever. You did this just to make me upset. You just made my colon explode with dureay (Reah) Ha. New referral to previous coach just hatched whilst on throne. Coach DUREAY- REAH. Dureay reaah. Crappy coach.

Sometimes I miss Troutputz.

Smokin Joe · Post by **Smokin Joe** » March 9th, 2019, 2:26 pm

Ahbye wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2019, 3:03 am
When Koby was on the team, we played .500 ball. When he wasn't, we won the MWC. Pretty simple math there. We could have used him as a sixth man instead of Brown, though.

The math is simple and so is the logic. Regrettably, you don't understand the latter. Correlation is not causation. It's not complicated.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » March 9th, 2019, 5:57 pm

Madmartigan wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2019, 1:09 pm

Aggie-Man wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2019, 12:57 pm
We would not be any worse and probably be better because under coach Smith you either play team ball or you don't play ball.
I think he would've gotten Koby to buy-in. He's a master motivator.

For the regular season, I don’t see us being much better. Our losses to BYU and Nevada were not going to be overcome by one player. We were destroyed by Nevada and scored enough against BYU that we were just beaten.

We may have beaten Houston. If Koby could step up and keep us from playing like crap in the 2nd half. Maybe we edge out ASU and don’t collapse against SDSU.

Realistically at best we are a 3 loss team sitting at around 14. More than likely we are a 4-6 loss team sitting where we are now or ranked around 19 to 22.

Having Koby going into the MWC tournament and hopefully the NCAA tournament I’d like our team.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » March 9th, 2019, 7:52 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
March 9th, 2019, 5:57 pm

Madmartigan wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2019, 1:09 pm

Aggie-Man wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2019, 12:57 pm
We would not be any worse and probably be better because under coach Smith you either play team ball or you don't play ball.
I think he would've gotten Koby to buy-in. He's a master motivator.
For the regular season, I don’t see us being much better. Our losses to BYU and Nevada were not going to be overcome by one player. We were destroyed by Nevada and scored enough against BYU that we were just beaten.

We may have beaten Houston. If Koby could step up and keep us from playing like crap in the 2nd half. Maybe we edge out ASU and don’t collapse against SDSU.

Realistically at best we are a 3 loss team sitting at around 14. More than likely we are a 4-6 loss team sitting where we are now or ranked around 19 to 22.

Having Koby going into the MWC tournament and hopefully the NCAA tournament I’d like our team.

Another element- he would really have given Sam more open looks. You can’t guard him queta and Merrill at the same time.

Blitz79 · Post by **Blitz79** » March 9th, 2019, 8:04 pm

A game Koby would have made a huge difference in would have been the Arizona State game. We didn't have anyone that could stay in front of Dort. Koby is athletic enough and strong enough to compete with that guy.

ChicAggie · Post by **ChicAggie** » March 9th, 2019, 9:16 pm

I think Koby could have made a difference in all of the Aggie losses. Many of the early losses included significant minutes for Ainge.

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