Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 9:39 pm
The over and back call has been redeemed! Same was clearly across half court.
I don't get how you miss that one
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Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 9:57 pm
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 9:58 pm
It was the refs shot at paying us back.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:18 pm
Refs were lousy tonight for both teams.
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Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:31 pm
It was a helter skelter game. Very hard to officiate.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:38 pm
Lots of Lobo fans on Facebook saying the refs cost them the game tonight.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:39 pm
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:40 pm
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:41 pm
They’re blaming:
1. No T on Queta for hanging on the rim
2. Missed out of bounds call that led to Weir getting the T
3. No offensive foul on Queta when Bragg flopped and then tried to trip Queta, which ended with him getting his fifth foul
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:43 pm
It seems like the fans on Facebook and Reddit can't understand that the team that pressed all game long is more likely to commit a foul. I think they deserved quite a few more fouls on the press than they were given.
We got one big lucky call that resulted in a Technical. We benefited a few other times but that was the only erogious call on them that I saw.
We got one big lucky call that resulted in a Technical. We benefited a few other times but that was the only erogious call on them that I saw.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:43 pm
Bragg definitely deserved his foul.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:44 pm
No kidding. New Mexico forced 24 turnovers, but at the cost of 29 fouls and 45 USU free throws. I don’t think too many were bad calls except for the one where Queta should have been called for traveling.
When is the last time USU shot 45 free throws?
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:45 pm
Weir should’ve gotten a T for arguing Bragg’s 3rd foul anyway.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:45 pm
Queta got away with hanging on the rim. The refs missed that one. I loved how the other Aggie players that were in the game got in his face and told him to get his $hit together. That's leadership and holding each other accountable.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:46 pm
I think that Weir earned that T earlier in the night. It was the final straw.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:48 pm
I think Queta got away with hanging on the rim since he would have landed on his collarbone if he let go right away and had to hold on to get his balance so he could let go and land on his feet.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:51 pm
dogie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 10:44 pmNo kidding. New Mexico forced 24 turnovers, but at the cost of 29 fouls and 45 USU free throws. I don’t think too many were bad calls except for the one where Queta should have been called for traveling.
When is the last time USU shot 45 free throws?
[Queta only traveled because the defender was locking Queta's foot and preventing him from moving. Now maybe you could say that Queta charged first, but that was for sure not a travel]
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 10:58 pm
In the game against wyoming yesterday, there were a few dunks by new Mexico that could have been called Ts for hanging on the rim afterward. It's such a stupid rule. Just let the kids have some fun.
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Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 11:01 pm
Brito's corner 3 that gave us the 4 point lead was so huge, but the 30 second time-out that preceded it was just plain good coaching. I'm sure there was something drawn up for Sam, but the main focus of that time out was to make sure we got a good shot. Sam didn't have it...but made the pass to Brito. Play of the game when I look back at things.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 11:10 pm
Intentional tripping should have been a technical anyway. He pinned Quetas leg between his feet and it could have been very dangerous for a long-legged big man holding his ankle like that.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 11:24 pm
Bad calls on both sides:Blue42 wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 10:41 pmThey’re blaming:
1. No T on Queta for hanging on the rim
2. Missed out of bounds call that led to Weir getting the T
3. No offensive foul on Queta when Bragg flopped and then tried to trip Queta, which ended with him getting his fifth foul
1. Over and back or ten second call ( Sam clearly made it over and then it was poked away)
2. The call they wanted Quetta traveling on should have been an intentional tripping foul on NM watch the replay should have gotten foul and the ball (Grayson Allen Special)
3. Several more fouls on their press that could have been called.
I would also say as being the underdog the last several years the refs don’t ever call the game to favor the underdog, as the underdog you gotta work through that. If you wanna get better calls in the tournament win more games in the regular season.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 11:29 pm
The reason the foul discrepancy was so lopsided was by the pressure NM was putting on the aggies. They were pressing and swiping for the ball out of our hands the whole night 3-4 times per possession. We don't press, but play good man defense and don't swipe, but maybe once or twice per possession.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 11:30 pm
I totally agree with you. Bad calls both ways, that’s just how the game goes. And none of the calls they listed were late enough to actually say they cost the Lobos the game. I was just relaying what I was seeing from UNM fans.nswaggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 11:24 pmBad calls on both sides:Blue42 wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 10:41 pmThey’re blaming:
1. No T on Queta for hanging on the rim
2. Missed out of bounds call that led to Weir getting the T
3. No offensive foul on Queta when Bragg flopped and then tried to trip Queta, which ended with him getting his fifth foul
1. Over and back or ten second call ( Sam clearly made it over and then it was poked away)
2. The call they wanted Quetta traveling on should have been an intentional tripping foul on NM watch the replay should have gotten foul and the ball (Grayson Allen Special)
3. Several more fouls on their press that could have been called.
I would also say as being the underdog the last several years the refs don’t ever call the game to favor the underdog, as the underdog you gotta work through that. If you wanna get better calls in the tournament win more games in the regular season.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 11:38 pm
UNM fans can complain all they want. Fact is, they couldn't extend their 2 point lead with 8 minutes left while the conference POY went out in foul trouble. This loss is on their team.
That being said, I really like Weir as a coach. He keeps his head on and I just love the sweaters. Plus I don't want to see his teeth kicked in like Musselman. I hope UNM picks it up next year.
That being said, I really like Weir as a coach. He keeps his head on and I just love the sweaters. Plus I don't want to see his teeth kicked in like Musselman. I hope UNM picks it up next year.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 14th, 2019, 11:57 pm
The one where the NM player closed his legs and tried to trip Queta?dogie wrote:No kidding. New Mexico forced 24 turnovers, but at the cost of 29 fouls and 45 USU free throws. I don’t think too many were bad calls except for the one where Queta should have been called for traveling.
When is the last time USU shot 45 free throws?
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Re: Over and back
Posted: March 15th, 2019, 12:18 am
They put a stat up that said something like 1997. Not sure it's that was free throws attempted or made.dogie wrote:No kidding. New Mexico forced 24 turnovers, but at the cost of 29 fouls and 45 USU free throws. I don’t think too many were bad calls except for the one where Queta should have been called for traveling.
When is the last time USU shot 45 free throws?
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Re: Over and back
Posted: March 15th, 2019, 12:18 am
Not to mention the most egregious flop I've ever seenpilotaggie wrote: ↑March 15th, 2019, 12:18 amThey put a stat up that said something like 1997. Not sure it's that was free throws attempted or made.dogie wrote:No kidding. New Mexico forced 24 turnovers, but at the cost of 29 fouls and 45 USU free throws. I don’t think too many were bad calls except for the one where Queta should have been called for traveling.
When is the last time USU shot 45 free throws?
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Re: Over and back
Posted: March 15th, 2019, 2:46 am
He sure did. The announcers on CBSS could not figure out that he tripped Queta.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 15th, 2019, 7:55 am
We would be doing the same thing if we had lost. It is just part of being a fan. UNM gave us a fight. Kudos to their team. I can't really call out the refs too much. They missed some easy stuff, but it was a helter skelter game. Those are always hard to officiate.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 15th, 2019, 8:30 am
I don't understand how people thought he traveled when the Lobo wrapped his legs around Queta to trip him. It was obvious live and during the replay.dogie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 10:44 pmNo kidding. New Mexico forced 24 turnovers, but at the cost of 29 fouls and 45 USU free throws. I don’t think too many were bad calls except for the one where Queta should have been called for traveling.
When is the last time USU shot 45 free throws?
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 15th, 2019, 8:42 am
The reffing was bad and if they think it cost anyone the game that's stupid. What cost them the game relating to reffing was their coach over reacted to it and ours stayed level headed. Game difference right there.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 15th, 2019, 11:05 am
Paul Weir says it even better than I did:nswaggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 11:24 pmBad calls on both sides:Blue42 wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 10:41 pmThey’re blaming:
1. No T on Queta for hanging on the rim
2. Missed out of bounds call that led to Weir getting the T
3. No offensive foul on Queta when Bragg flopped and then tried to trip Queta, which ended with him getting his fifth foul
1. Over and back or ten second call ( Sam clearly made it over and then it was poked away)
2. The call they wanted Quetta traveling on should have been an intentional tripping foul on NM watch the replay should have gotten foul and the ball (Grayson Allen Special)
3. Several more fouls on their press that could have been called.
I would also say as being the underdog the last several years the refs don’t ever call the game to favor the underdog, as the underdog you gotta work through that. If you wanna get better calls in the tournament win more games in the regular season.
“(Neemias) Queta has earned the right for those calls. (Sam) Merrill has earned the right for those calls. They’re great players on a great team and they earn the right to kind of get the calls they do. Carlton, I love him to death. Our guys, I love them to death. They just haven’t earned that credibility yet to get those 50/50 breaks with officials.”
This is why finishing top 3 in the regular season is so important, you earn that credibility and benefit of the doubt.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 15th, 2019, 11:36 am
How about Carlton not flop and then scissor his legs closed and trip Queta? Had he not flopped and rolled around on the floor, he wouldn't have fouled out.nswaggie wrote: ↑March 15th, 2019, 11:05 amPaul Weir says it even better than I did:nswaggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 11:24 pmBad calls on both sides:Blue42 wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 10:41 pmThey’re blaming:
1. No T on Queta for hanging on the rim
2. Missed out of bounds call that led to Weir getting the T
3. No offensive foul on Queta when Bragg flopped and then tried to trip Queta, which ended with him getting his fifth foul
1. Over and back or ten second call ( Sam clearly made it over and then it was poked away)
2. The call they wanted Quetta traveling on should have been an intentional tripping foul on NM watch the replay should have gotten foul and the ball (Grayson Allen Special)
3. Several more fouls on their press that could have been called.
I would also say as being the underdog the last several years the refs don’t ever call the game to favor the underdog, as the underdog you gotta work through that. If you wanna get better calls in the tournament win more games in the regular season.
“(Neemias) Queta has earned the right for those calls. (Sam) Merrill has earned the right for those calls. They’re great players on a great team and they earn the right to kind of get the calls they do. Carlton, I love him to death. Our guys, I love them to death. They just haven’t earned that credibility yet to get those 50/50 breaks with officials.”
This is why finishing top 3 in the regular season is so important, you earn that credibility and benefit of the doubt.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 15th, 2019, 1:17 pm
Ya that tooaggies22 wrote: ↑March 15th, 2019, 11:36 amHow about Carlton not flop and then scissor his legs closed and trip Queta? Had he not flopped and rolled around on the floor, he wouldn't have fouled out.nswaggie wrote: ↑March 15th, 2019, 11:05 amPaul Weir says it even better than I did:nswaggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 11:24 pmBad calls on both sides:Blue42 wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 10:41 pmThey’re blaming:
1. No T on Queta for hanging on the rim
2. Missed out of bounds call that led to Weir getting the T
3. No offensive foul on Queta when Bragg flopped and then tried to trip Queta, which ended with him getting his fifth foul
1. Over and back or ten second call ( Sam clearly made it over and then it was poked away)
2. The call they wanted Quetta traveling on should have been an intentional tripping foul on NM watch the replay should have gotten foul and the ball (Grayson Allen Special)
3. Several more fouls on their press that could have been called.
I would also say as being the underdog the last several years the refs don’t ever call the game to favor the underdog, as the underdog you gotta work through that. If you wanna get better calls in the tournament win more games in the regular season.
“(Neemias) Queta has earned the right for those calls. (Sam) Merrill has earned the right for those calls. They’re great players on a great team and they earn the right to kind of get the calls they do. Carlton, I love him to death. Our guys, I love them to death. They just haven’t earned that credibility yet to get those 50/50 breaks with officials.”
This is why finishing top 3 in the regular season is so important, you earn that credibility and benefit of the doubt.
Re: Over and back
Posted: March 15th, 2019, 6:02 pm
I thought the same until I saw the replay on the video board in the arena and realized that he hung an extra 2-3 seconds so he could stare into the camera on the floor for showmanship. He was hot dogging it and probably should've been called for the tech. He played to the cameras a few times last night.GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2019, 10:48 pmI think Queta got away with hanging on the rim since he would have landed on his collarbone if he let go right away and had to hold on to get his balance so he could let go and land on his feet.
I love that about him. As long as it doesn't get called.
