UNC breaking the zone

This forum is for Basketball discussion only. Other topics will be moved to the appropriate forum.
User avatar
MrBiggle
Posts: 3141
Joined: October 10th, 2013, 12:15 pm
Has thanked: 2843 times
Been thanked: 530 times

UNC breaking the zone

Post by MrBiggle » March 24th, 2019, 1:23 pm

Washington’s zone does not seem to be affecting UNC at all.
In fact UW does not look as “handsy” as they did against us. Why is that, UNC confidence with the ball, ability to make quick decisions about passing?


Where only sage brush grows

Intermeddler
Posts: 3010
Joined: January 20th, 2011, 7:35 pm
Location: North Salt Lake
Has thanked: 767 times
Been thanked: 865 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by Intermeddler » March 24th, 2019, 1:24 pm

UNC has guys that can break the zone with the dribble so UW can’t be as aggressive. We didn’t so they could clamp down on our shooters.

And of course Washington is missing open 3s now
Last edited by Intermeddler on March 24th, 2019, 1:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.



Blitz79
Posts: 2316
Joined: January 16th, 2011, 8:11 am
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 423 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by Blitz79 » March 24th, 2019, 1:24 pm

They play Syracuse every year. They know about this zone. Plus they are just better than us.
These users thanked the author Blitz79 for the post (total 4):
IntermeddlerProvoAggieBustaMcNuttJSHarvey



GameFAQSAggie
Posts: 9136
Joined: November 3rd, 2010, 11:10 am
Has thanked: 310 times
Been thanked: 2779 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by GameFAQSAggie » March 24th, 2019, 1:41 pm

There are alot of offenses and defenses that would cause us problems, but not UNC, cause UNC has all-americans and we don't.



User avatar
dyedblue
Posts: 8431
Joined: November 3rd, 2010, 4:21 pm
Has thanked: 24 times
Been thanked: 842 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by dyedblue » March 24th, 2019, 2:26 pm

UNC had 10 McDonald's All-Americans and Logan has a McDonald's.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
These users thanked the author dyedblue for the post (total 3):
ProvoAggieBustaMcNuttTrueBlueFan


“The winning team has a dedication. It will have a core of veteran players who set the standards. They will not accept defeat.” --Merlin Olsen

User avatar
JFWAggie
Posts: 633
Joined: August 4th, 2017, 1:32 pm
Has thanked: 157 times
Been thanked: 322 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by JFWAggie » March 24th, 2019, 2:30 pm

dyedblue wrote:
March 24th, 2019, 2:26 pm
UNC had 10 McDonald's All-Americans and Logan has a McDonald's.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
We actually have two McDonald’s dude!



User avatar
Jjoey53
Posts: 1654
Joined: January 9th, 2018, 4:28 pm
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 145 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by Jjoey53 » March 24th, 2019, 2:44 pm

JFWAggie wrote:
dyedblue wrote:
March 24th, 2019, 2:26 pm
UNC had 10 McDonald's All-Americans and Logan has a McDonald's.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
We actually have two McDonald’s dude!
4 if you count Hyrum and Smithfield.

UW Is forcing turnovers, which is keeping them close.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk



User avatar
brownjeans
Flatulent
Posts: 18612
Joined: November 3rd, 2010, 10:21 am
Has thanked: 951 times
Been thanked: 1739 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by brownjeans » March 24th, 2019, 5:32 pm

UNC is playing more guys on the baseline and corners than we did.



Bank Shot
Posts: 1931
Joined: January 26th, 2019, 6:27 pm
Has thanked: 494 times
Been thanked: 919 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by Bank Shot » March 24th, 2019, 6:13 pm

Intermeddler wrote:
March 24th, 2019, 1:24 pm
UNC has guys that can break the zone with the dribble so UW can’t be as aggressive. We didn’t so they could clamp down on our shooters.

And of course Washington is missing open 3s now
Exactly. Comparing the way it was executed the 2 versions of their zone is apples and oranges. If they had played the same way against UNC as they did against us, they would have got shredded.



AGGZILLA
Posts: 3098
Joined: November 4th, 2010, 5:53 pm
Location: North Salt Lake
Has thanked: 26 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by AGGZILLA » March 24th, 2019, 8:12 pm

dyedblue wrote:
March 24th, 2019, 2:26 pm
UNC had 10 McDonald's All-Americans and Logan has a McDonald's.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
That might be my favorite Stew quote of all time. Taken from the Maui Invitational press conference before our game against Florida in ‘99.


"They got up to get excited... then they displayed all 5 stages of grief."
- Dallin

SLB
Posts: 12842
Joined: November 3rd, 2016, 8:47 pm
Has thanked: 1289 times
Been thanked: 2358 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by SLB » March 24th, 2019, 8:18 pm

Predicable
Washington goes back to shooting terrible against UNC.
31% on 3s
40 % on FTs
38 % from the field
Washington came really close to pulling an upset on Gonzaga this season, and Washington played that level of a game against us.



NVAggie
SJSU Ultimate Loser Award Winner - Given to someone that should probably give up but won't.
Posts: 23464
Joined: November 3rd, 2010, 8:09 am
Location: Where the sagebrush grows!
Has thanked: 1417 times
Been thanked: 3217 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by NVAggie » March 24th, 2019, 9:49 pm

It is just how it works in the tournament. I’m excited for next year and happy for the experience this year.
These users thanked the author NVAggie for the post:
JSHarvey



Aggie formerly in Hawaii
Posts: 8054
Joined: October 22nd, 2016, 1:06 am
Has thanked: 2309 times
Been thanked: 2588 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 24th, 2019, 10:11 pm

NVAggie wrote:
March 24th, 2019, 9:49 pm
It is just how it works in the tournament. I’m excited for next year and happy for the experience this year.
Yep we got about as good of a draw as we could have asked for. Our best seed ever and against a team that hadnt been playing well over the last few weeks of the season. They just outplayed us and outschemed us and hit their shots.



FloridaAggie13
Posts: 23318
Joined: August 22nd, 2011, 2:18 pm
Has thanked: 7728 times
Been thanked: 2803 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 25th, 2019, 10:18 am

SLB wrote:
March 24th, 2019, 8:18 pm
Predicable
Washington goes back to shooting terrible against UNC.
31% on 3s
40 % on FTs
38 % from the field
Washington came really close to pulling an upset on Gonzaga this season, and Washington played that level of a game against us.
Once we started pressing them Washington reverted to their old ways of turning over the ball and hurrying their shots. The three pointer from the wing when it was a one-point game was probably the turning point in giving them their confidence back. Plus, it's hard to continue pressing when you only have a seven man rotation. We were gassed and missed a lot of shots inside the lane down the stretch.



aggiesdotcom
Posts: 1985
Joined: January 21st, 2011, 8:56 am
Has thanked: 248 times
Been thanked: 303 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by aggiesdotcom » March 25th, 2019, 12:18 pm

I think if we played Washington again, we'd come out with the W. Many of the PAC12 teams fared better the second time the played Washington because they knew which adjustments to make and how to break their suffocating press/zone.



Elkaggie
Posts: 5658
Joined: August 26th, 2011, 5:21 pm
Has thanked: 202 times
Been thanked: 1167 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by Elkaggie » March 25th, 2019, 12:31 pm

I really think they played pissed against us because nobody was picking them. They play with something to prove and we didn’t imo.



User avatar
AGGIEinIOWA
Posts: 3543
Joined: November 17th, 2010, 10:50 am
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 1695 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by AGGIEinIOWA » March 25th, 2019, 12:33 pm

Hate to say it but having McEwen would have helped. He has the ability to dribble drive the gaps and then rise up and hit the mid-range shot. Sam really struggled with that. I would never trade Sam for Koby but having a Koby-like player would have really helped us in that game. I thought Brock had some nice moments and played with some toughness and confidence. I think he will be a better all around offensive threat next year and help take some of the load off Sam.



NVAggie
SJSU Ultimate Loser Award Winner - Given to someone that should probably give up but won't.
Posts: 23464
Joined: November 3rd, 2010, 8:09 am
Location: Where the sagebrush grows!
Has thanked: 1417 times
Been thanked: 3217 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by NVAggie » March 25th, 2019, 12:56 pm

We cut the lead to one point just under ten minutes to play. After that time out, we fell apart. Washington hit a three then we turned the ball over, they missed a shot, we turned it over again, they hit another three and we call time out. Now down 7, we come out of the time out and turn it over again. In the last quarter of the game, we had 20 possessions (not counting offensive rebounds). We turned the ball over 7 times, shot 5-6 from the foul line and 1-12 from the field. We scored 8 points the rest of the way. Just a complete meltdown.



User avatar
dyedblue
Posts: 8431
Joined: November 3rd, 2010, 4:21 pm
Has thanked: 24 times
Been thanked: 842 times

UNC breaking the zone

Post by dyedblue » March 25th, 2019, 6:23 pm

When we went on our run we worked the post with two players. It worked because UW all but played a 4 out zone to stop Sam, and moving him to the high post did not alter that. Once we fed the low post and then cut from the high post we had the advantage. UW took that away and we were done.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Last edited by dyedblue on March 25th, 2019, 6:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.


“The winning team has a dedication. It will have a core of veteran players who set the standards. They will not accept defeat.” --Merlin Olsen

NVAggie
SJSU Ultimate Loser Award Winner - Given to someone that should probably give up but won't.
Posts: 23464
Joined: November 3rd, 2010, 8:09 am
Location: Where the sagebrush grows!
Has thanked: 1417 times
Been thanked: 3217 times

Re: UNC breaking the zone

Post by NVAggie » March 25th, 2019, 10:29 pm

Good observation.



Locked Previous topicNext topic