Without question, if queta doesn’t start playing this week

akborder · Post by **akborder** » November 18th, 2019, 10:31 am

.....We are gonna have 3 losses coming quick with LSU, Florida, and St Mary’s and out of top 25 and at best secure a 11/12 seed for tourney.
I’m glad Kuba and Trevin are getting playing time, but their offense stinks and these are weaker opponentt we’ve been playing (except montana st)

Am I being dramatic? Maybe, but queta needs to play this week. If not, and we win, I’ll eat crow.

Post by **ProvoAggie** » November 18th, 2019, 11:06 am

Having Queta would definitely make me more confident but none of the 3 teams that you listed have looked to be as good as expected at the start of the year. All 3 started the year ranked, none of them are now.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » November 18th, 2019, 11:22 am

I would lean towards dramatic on that statement. The team isn't incapable without Queta, and I think any of these could be victories without him. However, I'd feel much better about winning all of them if Queta were participating.

newhouse9 · Post by **newhouse9** » November 18th, 2019, 11:23 am

March is what matters.

aceofspadeskb · Post by **aceofspadeskb** » November 18th, 2019, 11:24 am

ProvoAggie wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2019, 11:06 am
Having Queta would definitely make me more confident but none of the 3 teams that you listed have looked to be as good as expected at the start of the year. All 3 started the year ranked, none of them are now.

FWIW, kenpom has them all ranked ahead of us.

Post by **ProvoAggie** » November 18th, 2019, 11:31 am

aceofspadeskb wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2019, 11:24 am

ProvoAggie wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2019, 11:06 am
Having Queta would definitely make me more confident but none of the 3 teams that you listed have looked to be as good as expected at the start of the year. All 3 started the year ranked, none of them are now.
FWIW, kenpom has them all ranked ahead of us.

KenPom is flawed at this time of year for the most part. Without much data to work off of he still has to include data from the past few years to try and get a baseline. He should be far more accurate in the next month. KenPom had Florida winning both games that they lost and had Saint Mary's winning the one they lost by 20. He did have LSU as the underdog and that was the only loss that went the way he thought it would. Our odds to beat those 3 teams have gone up almost everyday.

aggiesdotcom · Post by **aggiesdotcom** » November 18th, 2019, 11:32 am

I was kinda hoping to see him get some bench minutes as early as today. But I'm leaning towards the worried about him not returning this season because of the hush hush timeline. Today for me is a tell on where is actual status is for the reasons mentioned, if he really is close to returning you'd want to get some run before the biggest profile games on our schedule which are over the next 3 weeks.

Bigd23 · Post by **Bigd23** » November 18th, 2019, 1:30 pm

I think the 11/12 seed prediction is off. We were 28-7 last season (6 losses prior to the NCAA tournament loss) and had a higher seed than that. I think the tough games regardless of Queta's status could be against LSU, St.Mary's, BYU, Florida, @SDSU, @New Mexico, and likely at least one more road conference game (maybe Fresno St. or UNLV). If we pull out at least a couple of those and win the conference in the regular season and conference tournament we should be alright.

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918AGG · Post by **918AGG** » November 18th, 2019, 2:58 pm

I'm not worried about Queta being back for these games. If health is any question at all, we should sit him.

We have a pretty deep team, and I honestly think that we can win with or without him.

tysteve20 · Post by **tysteve20** » November 18th, 2019, 3:47 pm

I acknowledge that this is wishful thinking and a huge stretch but Quetta posted on Instagram today a picture of him dunking with the caption “Neemy on the come up”

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FormerlyVegasAggie71 · Post by **FormerlyVegasAggie71** » November 18th, 2019, 4:13 pm

He's officially out tonight, FWIW:

aggiesdotcom · Post by **aggiesdotcom** » November 18th, 2019, 4:21 pm

If we're losing 2nd half, I'm still expecting a Wes-Unseld-out-of-the-tunnel moment.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » November 18th, 2019, 4:27 pm

aggiesdotcom wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2019, 4:21 pm
If we're losing 2nd half, I'm still expecting a Wes-Unseld-out-of-the-tunnel moment.

They're 0-4, and none of those end scores look that close. I don't think we're going to be close on this one.

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » November 18th, 2019, 5:30 pm

Is it just me being too emotional or is there someone else who's very upset about Queta being out so long? WTF?

It's be one thing if we understood the exact nature of the injury but they're keeping everything secret. I hate this. It's not as if it can be kept under wraps. They have to disclose the injury to the team that would draft him.

usufan1 · Post by **usufan1** » November 18th, 2019, 5:32 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote:Is it just me being too emotional or is there someone else who's very upset about Queta being out so long? WTF?

Tonight will make 5 games he's missed, not that big of a deal. I feel like it's been advantageous for the team to see who they are without him.

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AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » November 18th, 2019, 5:34 pm

usufan1 wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2019, 5:32 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote:Is it just me being too emotional or is there someone else who's very upset about Queta being out so long? WTF?
Tonight will make 5 games he's missed, not that big of a deal. I feel like it's been advantageous for the team to see who they are without him.

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For all we know he could be out for the season.

usufan1 · Post by **usufan1** » November 18th, 2019, 5:36 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote:
usufan1 wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2019, 5:32 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote:Is it just me being too emotional or is there someone else who's very upset about Queta being out so long? WTF?
Tonight will make 5 games he's missed, not that big of a deal. I feel like it's been advantageous for the team to see who they are without him.

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For all we know he could be out for the season.

And for all we know the Aggies could go undefeated without him. If Queta had stayed in the draft we'd be without him. Any game he makes it back for is a bonus over what could have been.

I get it, but let the Aggie pessimism go for a season. Enjoy the ride!

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SLB · Post by **SLB** » November 18th, 2019, 5:56 pm

All 3 have lost to some team. The other thing is Florida does not look as good as Montana State.

utaggies · Post by **utaggies** » November 18th, 2019, 6:05 pm

Queta not playing tonight likely means he will not play (if he plays this season at all) until the conference season opens. It is just not possible that he will simply parachute into games against LSU, Florida or St. Mary’s without any preparatory time. We should best resign ourselves to that fact.

I think it’s ridiculous that the university and coach have been so tight-lipped on Queta’s injury and prognosis. If it is day-to-day, they should say so. If it is season-ending they should say so. What would be the purpose of being coy about this?

Aggieiester · Post by **Aggieiester** » November 18th, 2019, 6:11 pm

akborder wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2019, 10:31 am
.....We are gonna have 3 losses coming quick with LSU, Florida, and St Mary’s and out of top 25 and at best secure a 11/12 seed for tourney.
I’m glad Kuba and Trevin are getting playing time, but their offense stinks and these are weaker opponentt we’ve been playing (except montana st)

Am I being dramatic? Maybe, but queta needs to play this week. If not, and we win, I’ll eat crow.

Does the Pope wear a funny hat?

Aggieiester · Post by **Aggieiester** » November 18th, 2019, 6:17 pm

utaggies wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2019, 6:05 pm
Queta not playing tonight likely means he will not play (if he plays this season at all) until the conference season opens. It is just not possible that he will simply parachute into games against LSU, Florida or St. Mary’s without any preparatory time. We should best resign ourselves to that fact.

I think it’s ridiculous that the university and coach have been so tight-lipped on Queta’s injury and prognosis. If it is day-to-day, they should say so. If it is season-ending they should say so. What would be the purpose of being coy about this?

The university doesn't owe anybody (I can't express myself without swearing) in regards to reporting the medical condition of a student athlete, who cares if they want to leave future opponents guessing.

pablohoney · Post by **pablohoney** » November 18th, 2019, 6:32 pm

Queta isn't playing tonight??? At this point I'm not convinced he isn't DEAD!!! I'm going to be watching very closely tonight to see if his animated actions from behind the basket aren't actually a Weekend at Bernie's situation the students are controlling his arm movements...

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » November 18th, 2019, 7:05 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2019, 5:56 pm
All 3 have lost to some team. The other thing is Florida does not look as good as Montana State.

I respectfully disagree. Florida has plenty of atleticism. They're not top 10 but they're good enough to give us a lot of problems

bigblue · Post by **bigblue** » November 18th, 2019, 7:57 pm

What the hell? Assumptions flying out the wazoo here. SMH.

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USUaggie · Post by **USUaggie** » November 18th, 2019, 8:04 pm

My 2nd hand source tonight said he probably won't play until the San Jose game.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » November 18th, 2019, 8:58 pm

So, I think the only reasonable assumption at this point is that Queta is dead.

Post by **ProvoAggie** » November 18th, 2019, 9:03 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
November 18th, 2019, 8:58 pm
So, I think the only reasonable assumption at this point is that Queta is dead.

Was that a zombie standing behind the bench?

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » November 18th, 2019, 9:26 pm

Which is better:
1. This 5-0 USU team?
2. This USU team with a rusty Queta?

LoveMyAggies · Post by **LoveMyAggies** » November 18th, 2019, 9:37 pm

Who here would rather have queta at 100%, and we finish strong in conf, and win some games in March? We have a very solid team, solid bench, they need these big games for D1 experience later. Queta has been to March, let's trust in the docs and when he and them say he's a go then he's a go. I'm excited as much as you are. Let's back off for a few weeks and see what happens, support the teams, GO Aggies!

Aggieforlife · Post by **Aggieforlife** » November 18th, 2019, 9:52 pm

The goal is for Queta to have “some time” in the St. Marys game. I’m not sure how much “some time” but hopefully its some meaning full minutes.

Winning Team · Post by **Winning Team** » November 18th, 2019, 11:23 pm

Jeez I think we need to calm down a little? Quetta is much more important on defense then offense and I think our defense has been outstanding these 5 games. What makes you think we are just going to crumble and fall apart against any decent team?

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » November 19th, 2019, 10:37 am

We cant seriously be thinking that if "Queta is out we automatically lose". A hobbled Queta isn't going to benefit us in any meaningful way.

I'll never complain about winning by 32- but the entire team needs to play better.

Brock Miller did not shoot well from 3 yesterday.
Brito had 3 turnovers, Porter had 3 turnovers, & Kuba had 4 (according to box) (each of them also did other things very well)

If we hit our open 3s and can cut down the turnovers we can absolutely win all 3 of these games (LSU, SMC, UF) without Queta.

If we miss uncontested 3s and continue to have turnovers then it will be hard to beat any of those teams (also it'll be hard to beat BYU if we make these types of mistakes)

Queta should do what Queta needs to do to get right- we will absolutely need him, healthy, later in the season.

If Queta isn't able to go, so be it- the rest of the guys will need to make the adjustments necessary to not have nearly 5 minutes without a basket again- because that is a 20 point run against anyone else that wasn't 0-4 going into the game.

dirtnsnow · Post by **dirtnsnow** » November 19th, 2019, 11:00 am

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2019, 10:37 am
We cant seriously be thinking that if "Queta is out we automatically lose". A hobbled Queta isn't going to benefit us in any meaningful way.

I'll never complain about winning by 32- but the entire team needs to play better.

Brock Miller did not shoot well from 3 yesterday.
Brito had 3 turnovers, Porter had 3 turnovers, & Kuba had 4 (according to box) (each of them also did other things very well)

If we hit our open 3s and can cut down the turnovers we can absolutely win all 3 of these games (LSU, SMC, UF) without Queta.

If we miss uncontested 3s and continue to have turnovers then it will be hard to beat any of those teams (also it'll be hard to beat BYU if we make these types of mistakes)

Queta should do what Queta needs to do to get right- we will absolutely need him, healthy, later in the season.

If Queta isn't able to go, so be it- the rest of the guys will need to make the adjustments necessary to not have nearly 5 minutes without a basket again- because that is a 20 point run against anyone else that wasn't 0-4 going into the game.

I agree with the premise, but 20 points in 5 minutes would be on pace to score 160 in the game.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » November 19th, 2019, 11:12 am

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2019, 11:00 am

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2019, 10:37 am
We cant seriously be thinking that if "Queta is out we automatically lose". A hobbled Queta isn't going to benefit us in any meaningful way.

I'll never complain about winning by 32- but the entire team needs to play better.

Brock Miller did not shoot well from 3 yesterday.
Brito had 3 turnovers, Porter had 3 turnovers, & Kuba had 4 (according to box) (each of them also did other things very well)

If we hit our open 3s and can cut down the turnovers we can absolutely win all 3 of these games (LSU, SMC, UF) without Queta.

If we miss uncontested 3s and continue to have turnovers then it will be hard to beat any of those teams (also it'll be hard to beat BYU if we make these types of mistakes)

Queta should do what Queta needs to do to get right- we will absolutely need him, healthy, later in the season.

If Queta isn't able to go, so be it- the rest of the guys will need to make the adjustments necessary to not have nearly 5 minutes without a basket again- because that is a 20 point run against anyone else that wasn't 0-4 going into the game.
I agree with the premise, but 20 points in 5 minutes would be on pace to score 160 in the game.

I dont think that's an extrapolation that would be made- if extrapolated that would not only be 160, it would be 160-0. My point was only that 5 minutes of not scoring against the mentioned teams would be a significant hurdle.

ChicAggie · Post by **ChicAggie** » November 19th, 2019, 11:29 am

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2019, 11:00 am

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
November 19th, 2019, 10:37 am
the rest of the guys will need to make the adjustments necessary to not have nearly 5 minutes without a basket again- because that is a 20 point run against anyone else that wasn't 0-4 going into the game.
I agree with the premise, but 20 points in 5 minutes would be on pace to score 160 in the game.

The average points scored by an NCAA team is approximately 70 ppg. So if a team goes scoreless for five minutes, that means the other team, on average, would go on a 8-9 point run -- everything else being equal.

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