Maybe 4,000 here for tip-off. Must be deflating for the players but hopefully they use it as motivation.

Well when you lose 4 out of your last 5 games that’s what you can expect.

It’s 9 pm... no one came up and everyone was giving them away.

kofdog wrote: ↑

January 21st, 2020, 9:21 pm

It’s 9 pm... no one came up and everyone was giving them away.

And a long drive back to Sandy on a weekday evening. Too long for me and the weather isn't likely to be putting a smile on too many motorists faces.

Deflating? They have nobody to blame but themselves.

I thought the students were ok for a last Tuesday night game!!!

Announced attendance something in the 8000s. That’s the most sparse 8000 I’ve ever seen!!

tipitup wrote:I thought the students were ok for a last Tuesday night game!!!

Announced attendance something in the 8000s. That’s the most sparse 8000 I’ve ever seen!!

I shouted LIAR when he announced 8,442.


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You guys aren't acknowledging that we don't have our employee of the year award winner who posts on social media our ticket prices compared to Super Bowl ticket prices to show what a great deal USU tickets are. Of course attendance will drop drastically, and will continue to do so until we get a seasoned veteran to blast the customer for not showing up.

I see fall colors in our future

There seemed to be quite a few people at the game. People always seem to complain on attendance. I mean it was a 9 pm MT tip-off on a weeknight vs Air Force, who is not one of the teams that will draw big crowds. I understand we get more money when more people show up, but I honestly don’t care too much about attendance unless we are playing a big rival or a ranked team nationally. Then I would want the place to be packed. It just bugs me that it is so noticeable when people are gone because the fall colored seats. Are we ever going to change the color or just keep it?

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January 22nd, 2020, 10:01 am

There seemed to be quite a few people at the game. People always seem to complain on attendance. I mean it was a 9 pm MT tip-off on a weeknight vs Air Force, who is not one of the teams that will draw big crowds. I understand we get more money when more people show up, but I honestly don’t care too much about attendance unless we are playing a big rival or a ranked team nationally. Then I would want the place to be packed. It just bugs me that it is so noticeable when people are gone because the fall colored seats. Are we ever going to change the color or just keep it?

Popular color schemes are cyclical. It would be very disappointing to get rid of those seats right before they came back in style.

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January 22nd, 2020, 10:10 am

ThunderAggie wrote: ↑

January 22nd, 2020, 10:01 am

There seemed to be quite a few people at the game. People always seem to complain on attendance. I mean it was a 9 pm MT tip-off on a weeknight vs Air Force, who is not one of the teams that will draw big crowds. I understand we get more money when more people show up, but I honestly don’t care too much about attendance unless we are playing a big rival or a ranked team nationally. Then I would want the place to be packed. It just bugs me that it is so noticeable when people are gone because the fall colored seats. Are we ever going to change the color or just keep it?

Popular color schemes are cyclical. It would be very disappointing to get rid of those seats right before they came back in style.

Lol... Or we could just make the seats Aggie Blue, Fighting White, and *insert adjective* Pewter. Then they'd always be in style.

First of all the team, and coach did not complain about the crowd, in fact in the post game Bean, and coach thanked the fans that showed up.

The autumn vomit arena is a the butt ugly arena, it is in serous need of a upgrade, and remodel .

We have the ugly seats discussion at least once every year. An upgrade is not happening anytime soon without a new arena. I suspect that once you rip out all of the seats you'll have to bring it up to code. And as anyone who has say in a Spectrum seat could tell you, the Spectrum is way too physically small to have a 10k seat capacity.

Mr. Sneelock wrote: ↑

January 22nd, 2020, 1:30 pm

We have the ugly seats discussion at least once every year. An upgrade is not happening anytime soon without a new arena. I suspect that once you rip out all of the seats you'll have to bring it up to code. And as anyone who has say in a Spectrum seat could tell you, the Spectrum is way too physically small to have a 10k seat capacity.

Yep, we'll see a new arena before we ever see the Fall seats removed.

I like the Fall-colored seats. Nostalgia.

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January 22nd, 2020, 1:52 pm

Mr. Sneelock wrote: ↑

January 22nd, 2020, 1:30 pm

We have the ugly seats discussion at least once every year. An upgrade is not happening anytime soon without a new arena. I suspect that once you rip out all of the seats you'll have to bring it up to code. And as anyone who has say in a Spectrum seat could tell you, the Spectrum is way too physically small to have a 10k seat capacity.

Yep, we'll see a new arena before we ever see the Fall seats removed.

A remodel has been on the future drawing board for sometime, however the cost maybe as much as a new arena, after 50 years it maybe time for some improvement or as I would prefer a wrecking ball and a new arena.

Im old when I went to the spectrum for the first time, I climbed a goat hill from the parking lot went to the south entrance, walking down to the seats tried to fit my 6'4" 240lb frame into the seat I thought OMG what a uncomfortable seat for anyone over 5' 110lbs and the colors are almost as bad as a blue turf in Boise.

Has anyone done the math on the payback time and annual installments for a new basketball arena? Also, how many seats do we really need in a new facility?

NavyBlueAggie wrote: ↑

January 22nd, 2020, 10:49 pm

Has anyone done the math on the payback time and annual installments for a new basketball arena? Also, how many seats do we really need in a new facility?

If we were to ever build a new arena, I would think 8,500 to 9,000 is a more right sized arena, with a few suites, more leg room and modernized concourse you could make an arena with more seating scarcity that would create a higher demand and bring an even higher level to the fan experience and fan environment.

Here is a link to the Athletics master plan that was finished in the fall of 2018. I know it has been posted before:

https://www.usu.edu/facilities/files/nw ... 202018.pdf

It talks about a Spectrum renovation feasibility study to compare the cost of a new 9,000 seat arena versus a renovated Spectrum with a capacity of 11,300. I've never been able to find a copy of the feasibility study. The preferred site for the new arena is the parking lot to the southeast of the "Meet The Challenge" bull statue.

Here is a picture originally posted by ProvoAggie that might be useful:

I'm sure the athletic department has done a feasibility study on the Spectrum and has an idea about how much it would cost to renovate or replace.

I could see building a new arena being cheaper than renovating.

If we build a new arena here's what I'd want:

1. Capacity to be a minimum of 10,000. Basketball averages 8000 per game. 10,000 would give us the fourth smallest arena.

2. Student section to remain the same size. I wouldn't be opposed to having student seats be as small as code allows to pack more in.

3. Acoustics should be designed to direct sound towards the court. I want the Spectrum 2.0 to be louder and even a more hellish place to play.

4. An environmentally friendly design. I think it could help sell a new arena to the general population, attract good attention to the University, would make for a good engineering challenge, and be good to the environment.

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January 23rd, 2020, 9:57 am

3. Acoustics should be designed to direct sound towards the court. I want the Spectrum 2.0 to be louder and even a more hellish place to play.

I can't imagine this would be allowed. I doubt that the desire to yell louder at the opposition outweighs the potential negative impact on hearing.

Honestly, I don't want capacity greater than 10k. Attendance at sporting events in general is declining. Small arenas, if done right, can be awesome. I would prefer 7,500-9,000 or so.

Mr. Sneelock wrote: ↑

January 23rd, 2020, 11:34 am

Honestly, I don't want capacity greater than 10k. Attendance at sporting events in general is declining. Small arenas, if done right, can be awesome. I would prefer 7,500-9,000 or so.

Or if done wrong, like McKeon Pavilion, it feels like a high school gym. Granted, that's MUCH smaller.

I am thinking more along the lines of a slightly larger version of the Kennel at Gonzaga (6,000) or the Reynolds Center at Tulsa (8,600), or The Pavilion at Ole Miss (about 9,000). Or a larger version of the new High Point Panthers arena (4,500), or Houston's new arena (about 9,000).

I would hate to take away the advantage we have of the student section being right next to the court and not buffeted by three rows of the media.

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑

January 23rd, 2020, 11:23 am

USUMAE wrote: ↑

January 23rd, 2020, 9:57 am

3. Acoustics should be designed to direct sound towards the court. I want the Spectrum 2.0 to be louder and even a more hellish place to play.

I can't imagine this would be allowed. I doubt that the desire to yell louder at the opposition outweighs the potential negative impact on hearing.

I believe many major stadiums have been build with maximum noise in mind. Seattle's football stadium comes to mind.

Floppy Hat wrote: ↑

January 23rd, 2020, 9:18 am

Here is a picture originally posted by ProvoAggie that might be useful:

My favorite part of this is that the center court logo is back to a more reasonable size.

I want Blue to repel from the ceiling again. Make it happen KC!


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I want a seat that I can fit my large butt in...I don't care what color it is!!