Roster is now filled out

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » June 19th, 2020, 3:53 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 3:40 pm

BiocatAg wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 3:31 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
June 12th, 2020, 12:33 pm
Unless someone else were to unexpectedly choose to leave, this is the final addition to the 2020-21 team. 12 scholarship dudes and 3 walk-ons.
I haven't been paying a lot of attention to BB recruiting lately. Does 12=13 now? Are we just saving the extra scholarship to give more flexibility in the future?
Haha! I guess in this case 12 does equal 13. The scholarship will be used for the 2021 class. I personally think it works out better this way. It saves us from adding a freshman and allows a little more balance between the classes.

It also can be a motivating factor for a walk on knowing there is an open scholarship if they perform at a certain level.

Post by **aggies22** » June 19th, 2020, 4:38 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 3:53 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 3:40 pm

BiocatAg wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 3:31 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
June 12th, 2020, 12:33 pm
Unless someone else were to unexpectedly choose to leave, this is the final addition to the 2020-21 team. 12 scholarship dudes and 3 walk-ons.
I haven't been paying a lot of attention to BB recruiting lately. Does 12=13 now? Are we just saving the extra scholarship to give more flexibility in the future?
Haha! I guess in this case 12 does equal 13. The scholarship will be used for the 2021 class. I personally think it works out better this way. It saves us from adding a freshman and allows a little more balance between the classes.
It also can be a motivating factor for a walk on knowing there is an open scholarship if they perform at a certain level.

I don't see us using any of the two remaining scholarships on a walk-on. These will be going to kids that are entering their senior year of high school. Technically, we have three open schollies BUT remember Cade Potter gets one of them.

BRuss804 · Post by **BRuss804** » June 19th, 2020, 5:25 pm

It seems like the best of both worlds would have been to use it on a grad transfer this year and then and still have the scholly available for next year. I guess the staff just couldn't find a grad transfer worth using the scholly on?

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » June 19th, 2020, 6:00 pm

BRuss804 wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 5:25 pm
It seems like the best of both worlds would have been to use it on a grad transfer this year and then and still have the scholly available for next year. I guess the staff just couldn't find a grad transfer worth using the scholly on?

Couldn't find one? Or couldn't land one?

Post by **aggies22** » June 19th, 2020, 6:19 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 6:00 pm

BRuss804 wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 5:25 pm
It seems like the best of both worlds would have been to use it on a grad transfer this year and then and still have the scholly available for next year. I guess the staff just couldn't find a grad transfer worth using the scholly on?
Couldn't find one? Or couldn't land one?

I'm going to say they couldn't find one that would play within the system.

GUS · Post by **GUS** » June 19th, 2020, 8:11 pm

I do know that they were very close to signing a transfer, but for some reason, unknown to me it fell apart.

ususports · Post by **ususports** » June 19th, 2020, 8:23 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 6:19 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 6:00 pm

BRuss804 wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 5:25 pm
It seems like the best of both worlds would have been to use it on a grad transfer this year and then and still have the scholly available for next year. I guess the staff just couldn't find a grad transfer worth using the scholly on?
Couldn't find one? Or couldn't land one?
I'm going to say they couldn't find one that wouldn't play within the system.

Why did they spend all of their time recruiting players who wouldn’t play within the system?

Post by **aggies22** » June 20th, 2020, 7:37 am

ususports wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 8:23 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 6:19 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 6:00 pm

BRuss804 wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 5:25 pm
It seems like the best of both worlds would have been to use it on a grad transfer this year and then and still have the scholly available for next year. I guess the staff just couldn't find a grad transfer worth using the scholly on?
Couldn't find one? Or couldn't land one?
I'm going to say they couldn't find one that wouldn't play within the system.
Why did they spend all of their time recruiting players who wouldn’t play within the system?

Damn auto correct. I fixed it.

Post by **aggies22** » June 20th, 2020, 7:41 am

GUS wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 8:11 pm
I do know that they were very close to signing a transfer, but for some reason, unknown to me it fell apart.

I believe we were in early on a few but once P5 schools like Kentucky, Arizona, etc., got involved, it became tough to compete.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » June 20th, 2020, 4:37 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 7:41 am

GUS wrote: ↑
June 19th, 2020, 8:11 pm
I do know that they were very close to signing a transfer, but for some reason, unknown to me it fell apart.
I believe we were in early on a few but once P5 schools like Kentucky, Arizona, etc., got involved, it became tough to compete.

I can see this being the case every year. The 5-star McDonald's All-Americans from the P-5 schools play one or two years. These schools continue to get the top high school players then get the pick of the litter on the guys they missed out on the first time around but played well for a smaller school to fill out their rosters.

The smaller schools just sit back and hope their players don't get lured away and enter the portal and also hope the time and effort (and scholarship money) they invest into a recruit for two years pays off as upper classmen for about a 33% success rate.

nvspuds · Post by **nvspuds** » June 20th, 2020, 5:02 pm

Or you get P5 players who transfer to mid majors to get more playing time. Marco Anthony for example.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » June 20th, 2020, 5:27 pm

nvspuds wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 5:02 pm
Or you get P5 players who transfer to mid majors to get more playing time. Marco Anthony for example.

You are correct. I can think of three players in the last 20 or so years that USU has had transfer in from a P5 school.

The first was a local kid from Salt Lake - Braden Bell. A big man that transferred in from Ohio State and played much smaller than his size. He is most remembered around here for a three point shot attempt that went backward.... backward. He played sparingly and was gone after a season.

The next was another big - Jared Shaw, a transfer from Oklahoma State. He played for two seasons (I believe) at USU 5 or 6 yards ago. He really helped USU but was part of some mediocre teams. He was probably the best center USU had before Queta came along, at least in the last 30 years or so.

Anthony is number three. The jury is out on him. Reports are positive and I look for good things from him. We're 1 for 2 right now.

So yes, we do, on rare occasion, get a transfer from the P5 schools. We just don't get many. I think the trend is going to be transfer from P5 to P5 for the good players looking for playing time.

As I sit here and think about it, those may he the only P5 transfers into USU in the last 50 years. I would defer to the collective wisdom of USUFans.com to come up with other names for this list.

Post by **aggies22** » June 20th, 2020, 5:56 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 5:27 pm

nvspuds wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 5:02 pm
Or you get P5 players who transfer to mid majors to get more playing time. Marco Anthony for example.
You are correct. I can think of three players in the last 20 or so years that USU has had transfer in from a P5 school.

The first was a local kid from Salt Lake - Braden Bell. A big man that transferred in from Ohio State and played much smaller than his size. He is most remembered around here for a three point shot attempt that went backward.... backward. He played sparingly and was gone after a season.

The next was another big - Jared Shaw, a transfer from Oklahoma State. He played for two seasons (I believe) at USU 5 or 6 yards ago. He really helped USU but was part of some mediocre teams. He was probably the best center USU had before Queta came along, at least in the last 30 years or so.

Anthony is number three. The jury is out on him. Reports are positive and I look for good things from him. We're 1 for 2 right now.

So yes, we do, on rare occasion, get a transfer from the P5 schools. We just don't get many. I think the trend is going to be transfer from P5 to P5 for the good players looking for playing time.

As I sit here and think about it, those may he the only P5 transfers into USU in the last 50 years. I would defer to the collective wisdom of USUFans.com to come up with other names for this list.

Covington Cormier transferred from Uconn.
Todd Gentry transferred from byu. Depending on who you ask they're P5. Allegedly.
Jay Goodman transferred from Iowa State.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » June 20th, 2020, 6:11 pm

I could’ve profiled Todd Gentry as a BYU transfer.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » June 20th, 2020, 6:22 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 5:56 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 5:27 pm

nvspuds wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 5:02 pm
Or you get P5 players who transfer to mid majors to get more playing time. Marco Anthony for example.
You are correct. I can think of three players in the last 20 or so years that USU has had transfer in from a P5 school.

The first was a local kid from Salt Lake - Braden Bell. A big man that transferred in from Ohio State and played much smaller than his size. He is most remembered around here for a three point shot attempt that went backward.... backward. He played sparingly and was gone after a season.

The next was another big - Jared Shaw, a transfer from Oklahoma State. He played for two seasons (I believe) at USU 5 or 6 yards ago. He really helped USU but was part of some mediocre teams. He was probably the best center USU had before Queta came along, at least in the last 30 years or so.

Anthony is number three. The jury is out on him. Reports are positive and I look for good things from him. We're 1 for 2 right now.

So yes, we do, on rare occasion, get a transfer from the P5 schools. We just don't get many. I think the trend is going to be transfer from P5 to P5 for the good players looking for playing time.

As I sit here and think about it, those may he the only P5 transfers into USU in the last 50 years. I would defer to the collective wisdom of USUFans.com to come up with other names for this list.
Covington Cormier transferred from Uconn.
Todd Gentry transferred from byu. Depending on who you ask they're P5. Allegedly.
Jay Goodman transferred from Iowa State.

Good call on Cupp Cormier. I can't believe I forgot him. I played some pickup games with him and most of the guys from that era when I was in school.

We're up to four. Any others?

nvspuds · Post by **nvspuds** » June 20th, 2020, 6:55 pm

Nevada has had a bunch over the years..Some worked out great, some not so great and some complete busts. The Pack has had more P5 players come into the program than they have lost to P5 programs.

Boise has quite few this year. NM gets their share too..It doesn't always work but the MW is an attractive landing spot for guys stepping down from P5.

SectionBAggie · Post by **SectionBAggie** » June 20th, 2020, 7:39 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 6:22 pm
We're up to four. Any others?

Jerome Johnson came to USU from Oklahoma - billed as (College HoFamer) Wayman Tisdale's backup.

Not a huge contributor, but solid if I recall. He played in the famous 3OT game against UNLV.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » June 20th, 2020, 7:47 pm

nvspuds wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 6:55 pm
Nevada has had a bunch over the years..Some worked out great, some not so great and some complete busts. The Pack has had more P5 players come into the program than they have lost to P5 programs.

Boise has quite few this year. NM gets their share too..It doesn't always work but the MW is an attractive landing spot for guys stepping down from P5.

Unfortunately, USU has that disadvantage expressed so eloquently by Derrick Harper when he was being courted by the Jazz

"You go play in Utah!"

The MWC, as a conference, has had goid luck P5 transfers. USU - not so much.

On the flip side, the Aggies have not lost many players to the P5 conferences. David Collette transferring to Utah comes immediately to mind. There aren't many others that I recall. Maybe we just get a bunch of guys that are either loyal or that nobody else wants?

ususports · Post by **ususports** » June 20th, 2020, 7:52 pm

There is that one guy who claimed he would be the best Aggie ever, but left for Marquette.

Post by **aggies22** » June 20th, 2020, 8:04 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 7:47 pm

nvspuds wrote: ↑
June 20th, 2020, 6:55 pm
Nevada has had a bunch over the years..Some worked out great, some not so great and some complete busts. The Pack has had more P5 players come into the program than they have lost to P5 programs.

Boise has quite few this year. NM gets their share too..It doesn't always work but the MW is an attractive landing spot for guys stepping down from P5.
Unfortunately, USU has that disadvantage expressed so eloquently by Derrick Harper when he was being courted by the Jazz

"You go play in Utah!"

The MWC, as a conference, has had goid luck P5 transfers. USU - not so much.

On the flip side, the Aggies have not lost many players to the P5 conferences. David Collette transferring to Utah comes immediately to mind. There aren't many others that I recall. Maybe we just get a bunch of guys that are either loyal or that nobody else wants?

I think we get guys that really want to be here. Both football and basketball. If that's loyalty, then great. I think the guys that are brought in just legitimately want to be here.

LKGates · Post by **LKGates** » June 21st, 2020, 12:30 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
June 12th, 2020, 9:26 pm

treesap32 wrote: ↑
June 12th, 2020, 9:08 pm
Interesting. Really ugly shot and does not have a quick release, but those percentages are definitely nothing to sneeze at. Seems to put the ball well in front of him, push his butt back and shot put it up there. If he can get it off and shoot anywhere near the percentages he shot in high school, just let him shoot it however he wants.

I wonder if he will compete enough to get some playing time at some point.
Those were my thoughts about his shot as well Sap. Not to be a Debbie Downer but this looks like a kid we’re bringing in for practice who will likely transfer out in 1-2 years. Glad to have him and I’m not trying to knock on him. Seeing his list of options he’s making the right choice to come here a develop for a year before putting his name back out there. And we needed the depth. It’s a win-win. But I’ll change my avatar to Justin Bieber if he’s on the team 2 years from now.

I am now praying for the kid's success.

TrueBlueFan · Post by **TrueBlueFan** » June 21st, 2020, 8:07 am

LKGates wrote: ↑
June 21st, 2020, 12:30 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
June 12th, 2020, 9:26 pm

treesap32 wrote: ↑
June 12th, 2020, 9:08 pm
Interesting. Really ugly shot and does not have a quick release, but those percentages are definitely nothing to sneeze at. Seems to put the ball well in front of him, push his butt back and shot put it up there. If he can get it off and shoot anywhere near the percentages he shot in high school, just let him shoot it however he wants.

I wonder if he will compete enough to get some playing time at some point.
Those were my thoughts about his shot as well Sap. Not to be a Debbie Downer but this looks like a kid we’re bringing in for practice who will likely transfer out in 1-2 years. Glad to have him and I’m not trying to knock on him. Seeing his list of options he’s making the right choice to come here a develop for a year before putting his name back out there. And we needed the depth. It’s a win-win. But I’ll change my avatar to Justin Bieber if he’s on the team 2 years from now.
I am now praying for the kid's success.

I agree with Sap and Hipster that his shooting motion needs some work. He does just kind of fling it up there and hope it goes in, lol. I’m glad to see he shoots a high percentage.

The good news is that he has a great last name. Translated from Czech “šťastný” means “happy.“ Looking forward to seeing this kid play.

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