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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by Pacobag » April 1st, 2021, 10:15 pm

All things considered, I’m not sure Wells “diplomatic” approach is any better for a program. Some recruits, players, fans, boosters, etc. may interpret the stating of certain comments as not fully committed, regardless of what else he says.

Perhaps during a marriage proposal, one should say he is really, really in love and plans to be fully committed, BUT, if feelings change over the years and he becomes unhappy, he will definitely consider divorce and moving onto greener pastures, especially if someone really hot comes along. Seems good to be open and honest about the possibilities... am I right?

Oh and if Bean promised to be back with the team next season, perhaps he should have added if he doesn’t experience a career ending injury or another extenuating circumstance or opportunity arises between now and then. I would hate for Bean to become a liar and not a real Aggie. :roll:
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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by Intermeddler » April 1st, 2021, 10:30 pm

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Sorry if this has been talked about but I didn’t want to sift through all the pages. Is the U capable of paying Peterson more as an assistant than we could offer at HC or is he just not interested in the position? Why is he not in the running?


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It was first reported here that Peterson was not going to be considered for the job but that it was not for lack of interest on his side. Hartwell was asked about the possibility of hiring an assistant on Monday? (I believe) and his statement in the article was that he "was not sure if any of them were interested" and that he knew one assistant was following Craig to SLC. We assume he was of course referring to Peterson.

Sounds like none of them have really been considered for the job thus far.
He was interested, but we weren’t apparently.
Did I not state that?
Do you think I’m disagreeing with you? Just attesting to your statement.
Ahhhh...gotcha. :thumbsup:

My bad, I think I had just got done yelling at my pre-teen son about some stupid decision he made and then read that in the wrong frame of mind. I thought it was just another person that doesn't listen to anything I say. LOL.
Haha understandable and not a problem at all.

I was a little surprised we didn’t give him more of a look but I guess I can understand.



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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » April 1st, 2021, 10:36 pm

Pacobag wrote:
April 1st, 2021, 10:15 pm
All things considered, I’m not sure Wells “diplomatic” approach is any better for a program. Some recruits, players, fans, boosters, etc. may interpret the stating of certain comments as not fully committed, regardless of what else he says.

Perhaps during a marriage proposal, one should say he is really, really in love and plans to be fully committed, BUT, if feelings change over the years and he becomes unhappy, he will definitely consider divorce and moving onto greener pastures, especially if someone really hot comes along. Seems good to be open and honest about the possibilities... am I right?

Oh and if Bean promised to be back with the team next season, perhaps he should have added if he doesn’t experience a career ending injury or another extenuating circumstance or opportunity arises between now and then. I would hate for Bean to become a liar and not a real Aggie. :roll:
Yeah, there is no perfect way to do it. Fans should just accept it is part of the deal no matter what the coach says. Just because you know a neighbor of a coach who says the family loves it in Logan shouldn't be taken as gospel that the coach isn't going to leave.



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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by Dwigt » April 1st, 2021, 10:50 pm

Pacobag wrote:
April 1st, 2021, 10:15 pm
All things considered, I’m not sure Wells “diplomatic” approach is any better for a program. Some recruits, players, fans, boosters, etc. may interpret the stating of certain comments as not fully committed, regardless of what else he says.

Perhaps during a marriage proposal, one should say he is really, really in love and plans to be fully committed, BUT, if feelings change over the years and he becomes unhappy, he will definitely consider divorce and moving onto greener pastures, especially if someone really hot comes along. Seems good to be open and honest about the possibilities... am I right?

Oh and if Bean promised to be back with the team next season, perhaps he should have added if he doesn’t experience a career ending injury or another extenuating circumstance or opportunity arises between now and then. I would hate for Bean to become a liar and not a real Aggie. :roll:
One might say that is why there is such things as a prenuptial agreement.


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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by Pacobag » April 1st, 2021, 10:53 pm

Dwigt wrote:
April 1st, 2021, 10:50 pm
Pacobag wrote:
April 1st, 2021, 10:15 pm
All things considered, I’m not sure Wells “diplomatic” approach is any better for a program. Some recruits, players, fans, boosters, etc. may interpret the stating of certain comments as not fully committed, regardless of what else he says.

Perhaps during a marriage proposal, one should say he is really, really in love and plans to be fully committed, BUT, if feelings change over the years and he becomes unhappy, he will definitely consider divorce and moving onto greener pastures, especially if someone really hot comes along. Seems good to be open and honest about the possibilities... am I right?

Oh and if Bean promised to be back with the team next season, perhaps he should have added if he doesn’t experience a career ending injury or another extenuating circumstance or opportunity arises between now and then. I would hate for Bean to become a liar and not a real Aggie. :roll:
One might say that is why there is such things as a prenuptial agreement.
Agreed and some are probably very ok with a prenup while others may view it as a red flag deal breaker. No perfect way as Aggie formerly in Hawaii stated.



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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by brownjeans » April 1st, 2021, 11:46 pm

So we have three candidates that we know of. Two pretty much stink.
I'm not feeling great about things at the moment.



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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by cval » April 2nd, 2021, 12:00 am

Which one of Koncal and Odom stinks?
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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by GameFAQSAggie » April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am

I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.



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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by aggies22 » April 2nd, 2021, 7:13 am

cval wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:00 am
Which one of Koncal and Odom stinks?
I actually found those two names encouraging.
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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by Usu0505 » April 2nd, 2021, 7:26 am

aggies22 wrote:
cval wrote:
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Which one of Koncal and Odom stinks?
I actually found those two names encouraging.
Same


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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by JonnyCienPesos » April 2nd, 2021, 7:29 am

aggies22 wrote:
cval wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:00 am
Which one of Koncal and Odom stinks?
I actually found those two names encouraging.
I am struggling to understand what the expectations are around here.


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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by ineptimusprime » April 2nd, 2021, 7:32 am

JonnyCienPesos wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:29 am
aggies22 wrote:
cval wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:00 am
Which one of Koncal and Odom stinks?
I actually found those two names encouraging.
I am struggling to understand what the expectations are around here.

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Yeah, Konkol and Odom are both great candidates. The third is a stinker for sure.



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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » April 2nd, 2021, 7:47 am

aggies22 wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:13 am
cval wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:00 am
Which one of Koncal and Odom stinks?
I actually found those two names encouraging.
Me too. Would be happy to have either.



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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by Aggiealum13 » April 2nd, 2021, 7:56 am

GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am
I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.
I kinda wonder how much longer he has at Tech. A lot of Tech fans were underwhelmed with the hire, and he hasn't done that great there. I hope he can turn it around, but he may be demoted again to a coordinator or G5 coaching job soon.



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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by 2004AG » April 2nd, 2021, 7:58 am

JonnyCienPesos wrote:
aggies22 wrote:
cval wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:00 am
Which one of Koncal and Odom stinks?
I actually found those two names encouraging.
I am struggling to understand what the expectations are around here.


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One or two people saying something can’t be extrapolated to the entire Aggie fan base on usu fans.

Put me in the camp Of being happy with Odom and Koncol too.


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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by 2004AG » April 2nd, 2021, 7:58 am

Aggiealum13 wrote:
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am
I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.
I kinda wonder how much longer he has at Tech. A lot of Tech fans were underwhelmed with the hire, and he hasn't done that great there. I hope he can turn it around, but he may be demoted again to a coordinator or G5 coaching job soon.
This is probably his last year.


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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by aggies22 » April 2nd, 2021, 8:09 am

2004AG wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:58 am
Aggiealum13 wrote:
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am
I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.
I kinda wonder how much longer he has at Tech. A lot of Tech fans were underwhelmed with the hire, and he hasn't done that great there. I hope he can turn it around, but he may be demoted again to a coordinator or G5 coaching job soon.
This is probably his last year.


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Yeah, he doesn't win 8 or more games he's out. And when we win 8 games this year and Anthony Tucker gets poached, Matt will be back.
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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by 2004AG » April 2nd, 2021, 8:10 am

aggies22 wrote:
2004AG wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:58 am
Aggiealum13 wrote:
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am
I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.
I kinda wonder how much longer he has at Tech. A lot of Tech fans were underwhelmed with the hire, and he hasn't done that great there. I hope he can turn it around, but he may be demoted again to a coordinator or G5 coaching job soon.
This is probably his last year.


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Yeah, he doesn't win 8 or more games he's out. And when we win 8 games this year and Anthony Tucker gets poached, Matt will be back.
With him and Anderson being friends that would get interesting.


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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by aggies22 » April 2nd, 2021, 8:11 am

JonnyCienPesos wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:29 am
aggies22 wrote:
cval wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:00 am
Which one of Koncal and Odom stinks?
I actually found those two names encouraging.
I am struggling to understand what the expectations are around here.


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Everyone needs to realize that Craig left here winning nearly 80% of his games and never hitting double digits in losses. Finding someone that is going to match those numbers is going to be impossible.



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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by aggies22 » April 2nd, 2021, 8:12 am

2004AG wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 8:10 am
aggies22 wrote:
2004AG wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:58 am
Aggiealum13 wrote:
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am
I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.
I kinda wonder how much longer he has at Tech. A lot of Tech fans were underwhelmed with the hire, and he hasn't done that great there. I hope he can turn it around, but he may be demoted again to a coordinator or G5 coaching job soon.
This is probably his last year.


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Yeah, he doesn't win 8 or more games he's out. And when we win 8 games this year and Anthony Tucker gets poached, Matt will be back.
With him and Anderson being friends that would get interesting.


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That's exactly why I said that. I also hope we win 8 games. But that's just me spewing crazy Aggie talk.



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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by 3rdGenAggie » April 2nd, 2021, 8:18 am

Of the names listed:

1. Konkol
2. Odom
3. About a hundred other options
4. Conroy
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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by AggieFanNate » April 2nd, 2021, 8:26 am

Between Odom and Konkol Who would be better?



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Post by slcagg » April 2nd, 2021, 8:28 am

aggies22 wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 8:11 am
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:29 am
aggies22 wrote:
cval wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:00 am
Which one of Koncal and Odom stinks?
I actually found those two names encouraging.
I am struggling to understand what the expectations are around here.


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Everyone needs to realize that Craig left here winning nearly 80% of his games and never hitting double digits in losses. Finding someone that is going to match those numbers is going to be impossible.
I agree. Great coach who also benefited having 2 of the greatest aggies in uniform during his time here.
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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by Aggie84025 » April 2nd, 2021, 8:43 am

AggieFanNate wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 8:26 am
Between Odom and Konkol Who would be better?
I am not sure they both seem solid. Odom has been the head coach at UMBC since 2016. In his 5 seasons he has had a winning record 4 of the 5 years. In context the prior 30 years of UMBC mens basketball there were 6 total seasons where the team finished above .500. In addition when he took over the program they were 7-25 the year prior and he turned that team into a 21-13 in his first year. Prior to him being head coach in 2016 the last time they had a winning record was the 2007 season.
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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by AggieFanNate » April 2nd, 2021, 8:51 am

Aggie84025 wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 8:43 am
AggieFanNate wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 8:26 am
Between Odom and Konkol Who would be better?
I am not sure they both seem solid. Odom has been the head coach at UMBC since 2016. In his 5 seasons he has had a winning record 4 of the 5 years. In context the prior 30 years of UMBC mens basketball there were 6 total seasons where the team finished above .500. In addition when he took over the program they were 7-25 the year prior and he turned that team into a 21-13 in his first year. Prior to him being head coach in 2016 the last time they had a winning record was the 2007 season.
I see that makes me feel better about Odom, I was worried his success at the beginning was due to things that were already in place when he came in. Because the last couple years haven't been as good as the first couple. But I would bet it's alot harder to have a consistent program with a school like UMBC since it's so low level.



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Post by ineptimusprime » April 2nd, 2021, 8:51 am

AggieFanNate wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 8:26 am
Between Odom and Konkol Who would be better?
The one that we hire, of course! :rock:

I’d be thrilled with either.



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Post by ratofallaggies » April 2nd, 2021, 9:06 am

Pacobag wrote:
April 1st, 2021, 10:15 pm
All things considered, I’m not sure Wells “diplomatic” approach is any better for a program. Some recruits, players, fans, boosters, etc. may interpret the stating of certain comments as not fully committed, regardless of what else he says.

Perhaps during a marriage proposal, one should say he is really, really in love and plans to be fully committed, BUT, if feelings change over the years and he becomes unhappy, he will definitely consider divorce and moving onto greener pastures, especially if someone really hot comes along. Seems good to be open and honest about the possibilities... am I right?

Oh and if Bean promised to be back with the team next season, perhaps he should have added if he doesn’t experience a career ending injury or another extenuating circumstance or opportunity arises between now and then. I would hate for Bean to become a liar and not a real Aggie. :roll:
I have no problem with someone being honest. Your comparison is a bit of a false equivalence, but if that individual truly had those intentions going into the marriage then I see nothing wrong with them saying that.



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Re: Coaching candidates

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JonnyCienPesos wrote:
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I am struggling to understand what the expectations are around here.


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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by Aggie in Boise » April 2nd, 2021, 9:14 am

Aggiealum13 wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:56 am
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am
I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.
I kinda wonder how much longer he has at Tech. A lot of Tech fans were underwhelmed with the hire, and he hasn't done that great there. I hope he can turn it around, but he may be demoted again to a coordinator or G5 coaching job soon.
That's okay because he will still be a millionaire.

BTW, I thought he was a pretty good coordinator for Gary and given the fact that he previously hung out with @ViAggie I even like him better.


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Post by Aggie in Boise » April 2nd, 2021, 9:18 am

2004AG wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:58 am
JonnyCienPesos wrote:
aggies22 wrote:
cval wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:00 am
Which one of Koncal and Odom stinks?
I actually found those two names encouraging.
I am struggling to understand what the expectations are around here.


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One or two people saying something can’t be extrapolated to the entire Aggie fan base on usu fans.

Put me in the camp Of being happy with Odom and Koncol too.


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Me too. Let's get these two interviewed and an offer out by no later than next Tuesday.


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Post by JonnyCienPesos » April 2nd, 2021, 9:18 am

Aggie in Boise wrote:
Aggiealum13 wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:56 am
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am
I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.
I kinda wonder how much longer he has at Tech. A lot of Tech fans were underwhelmed with the hire, and he hasn't done that great there. I hope he can turn it around, but he may be demoted again to a coordinator or G5 coaching job soon.
That's okay because he will still be a millionaire.

BTW, I thought he was a pretty good coordinator for Gary and given the fact that he previously hung out with [mention]ViAggie[/mention] I even like him better.
Wells may very well be back here in some capacity if he is fired and Anderson is still here.


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Post by slcagg » April 2nd, 2021, 9:21 am

JonnyCienPesos wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 9:18 am
Aggie in Boise wrote:
Aggiealum13 wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:56 am
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am
I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.
I kinda wonder how much longer he has at Tech. A lot of Tech fans were underwhelmed with the hire, and he hasn't done that great there. I hope he can turn it around, but he may be demoted again to a coordinator or G5 coaching job soon.
That's okay because he will still be a millionaire.

BTW, I thought he was a pretty good coordinator for Gary and given the fact that he previously hung out with @ViAggie I even like him better.
Wells may very well be back here in some capacity if he is fired and Anderson is still here.


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Projecting this a few years further if Anderson is successful and hired away. Matt becomes his OC at some point and look who is our main target for new HC. Haha.
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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by Aggie in Boise » April 2nd, 2021, 9:23 am

JonnyCienPesos wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 9:18 am
Aggie in Boise wrote:
Aggiealum13 wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:56 am
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am
I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.
I kinda wonder how much longer he has at Tech. A lot of Tech fans were underwhelmed with the hire, and he hasn't done that great there. I hope he can turn it around, but he may be demoted again to a coordinator or G5 coaching job soon.
That's okay because he will still be a millionaire.

BTW, I thought he was a pretty good coordinator for Gary and given the fact that he previously hung out with @ViAggie I even like him better.
Wells may very well be back here in some capacity if he is fired and Anderson is still here.


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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by ShowMeAggie » April 2nd, 2021, 9:43 am

this IS the basketball forum, you know...

count me as underwhelmed by both Konkol and Odom, but maybe its because JH plays up the candidate pool so much. Konkol's interviews sound just "meh". Odom seems to have a little more pizzazz, i just thought we might draw interest from others associated with programs just a little higher on the rung. i know we've debated this in the past, but i personally would also like someone that at least has the appearance that they might settle down and stay a while, even if they have success, and I don't get that from either of these guys' bios. please, Please, PLEASE reassure me that our interview pool is bigger than just these three. and if so, SOMEBODY has to be able to leak a name or three more? Thanks in advance...I'll just wait right here for those names...
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Re: Coaching candidates

Post by gomretat » April 2nd, 2021, 9:47 am

aggies22 wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 8:09 am
2004AG wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 7:58 am
Aggiealum13 wrote:
GameFAQSAggie wrote:
April 2nd, 2021, 12:04 am
I for one like Wells approach of making the statement he did.
I kinda wonder how much longer he has at Tech. A lot of Tech fans were underwhelmed with the hire, and he hasn't done that great there. I hope he can turn it around, but he may be demoted again to a coordinator or G5 coaching job soon.
This is probably his last year.


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Yeah, he doesn't win 8 or more games he's out. And when we win 8 games this year and Anthony Tucker gets poached, Matt will be back.
I really hope we have that problem!



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