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Re: Player Transactions

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 30th, 2021, 11:38 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
March 30th, 2021, 3:38 pm
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The old "but he's who the players wanted" line isn't going to fly around here like it might elsewhere.

It has been mere months since we've been severely burned by that thinking.
Agreed. I think for a few reasons. One being that it's not smart to make what is hopefully a longterm coaching decision based on the feelings of some players that will be gone in 2-3 years. And another being you can't let players feel they have that kind of power in the situation. Ask their opinions and take them into account, but you can't give them the impression that they get to choose the coach.
Yeah you can't let the players hire the coach as much as we love them. In almost every single case they have an assistant on staff that they would prefer over some unknown. Hell, I bet after Duryea was fired if you said "Ok guys it is up to you, you can have Craig Smith from South Dakota, Tommy Lloyd from Gonzaga or we will just promote Louis Wilson, who do you want?" Wilson would have won the vote.
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Post by aggies22 » March 31st, 2021, 7:45 am

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Wise words....the players were hoping that Peterson would become head coach. They believe that he wasn't seriously considered.
This is true.



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Post by aggiesdotcom » March 31st, 2021, 8:24 am

But was Peterson interested in the job? Maybe Utah is paying him close to $1M...



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Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 31st, 2021, 8:57 am

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But was Peterson interested in the job? Maybe Utah is paying him close to $1M...
In 2015 didn't Utah bump up Tommy Connors to above what USU offered him to be the Head Coach? We talk about Smith's contract, but unfortunately what P5 schools can pay assistants is also a big difference.



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Post by Ok Aggie Fan » March 31st, 2021, 9:04 am

I am hearing that he expressed interest in the job. It was made apparent, after his inquiry, that he was not going to get the position. I am not sure if salary was ever discussed.
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Re: Player Transactions

Post by Roy McAvoy » March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm

I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.



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Post by Aggie84025 » March 31st, 2021, 2:29 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
The hits just keep coming.



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Post by hipsterdoofus21 » March 31st, 2021, 2:39 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
Watching USC, Oregon State, and UCLA in the tourney this year I'm not sure if Marco would be a good fit in the PAC-12. You've got to be able to contribute consistently on both sides of the floor.



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Post by ineptimusprime » March 31st, 2021, 2:42 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:39 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
Watching USC, Oregon State, and UCLA in the tourney this year I'm not sure if Marco would be a good fit in the PAC-12. You've got to be able to contribute consistently on both sides of the floor.
That sucks. Marco was on my list of those I was hoping to hold onto. I hope he stays. He’s a really good defender.

I don’t think this is a move that would be great for Marco from a playing standpoint, but I could be wrong.

EDIT: to be clear, I think he will play and absolutely can play at that level, but he’d have a much larger role here, IMO.
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Post by aggies22 » March 31st, 2021, 2:43 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
I believe this is how it is going to go down as well.



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Post by Aggiealum13 » March 31st, 2021, 2:46 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:43 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
I believe this is how it is going to go down as well.
Honestly, he was the one player I figured we wouldn't retain if Smith left. So yes I can see him following Smith to Utah.



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Post by Aggie in Boise » March 31st, 2021, 2:48 pm

It's going to be okay because Ed is bringing us a 7 footer.


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Post by Aglicious » March 31st, 2021, 2:49 pm

Yeah, Marco basically came to Logan because of the tie to Smith recruiting him out of HS. I could see him wanting to finish out his career playing for him.
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Post by Usu0505 » March 31st, 2021, 2:54 pm

Aglicious wrote:Yeah, Marco basically came to Logan because of the tie to Smith recruiting him out of HS. I could see him wanting to finish out his career playing for him.
I just can’t see him actually playing much though. PAC 12 is long and athletic. I wouldn’t say Marco is either one of those. You could argue athletic maybe.


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Post by ProvoAggie » March 31st, 2021, 2:59 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:43 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
I believe this is how it is going to go down as well.
What about Worster? Any word there?



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Post by AgsRock » March 31st, 2021, 3:05 pm

I disagree, I think Marco can easily play in the PAC-12. I really like Marco game it's a shame it sounds like he will be leaving. This was inevitable given the coaching change.



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Post by 3rdGenAggie » March 31st, 2021, 3:18 pm

At least we'll have Bean on the roster next year. Might be him and 12 new guys. ;)


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Post by Aggie in Boise » March 31st, 2021, 3:20 pm

Usu0505 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:54 pm
Aglicious wrote:Yeah, Marco basically came to Logan because of the tie to Smith recruiting him out of HS. I could see him wanting to finish out his career playing for him.
I just can’t see him actually playing much though. PAC 12 is long and athletic. I wouldn’t say Marco is either one of those. You could argue athletic maybe.


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Marco is big, strong, and athletic. He is long for a guard. His biggest issue is his shooting.


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Post by Real Life Aggie » March 31st, 2021, 4:17 pm

I was discussing today with a Ute friend of mine, and he was asking about potential people who might follow Craig Smith. I gave him the background story on Marco, including how he's only here because he followed Coach Smith. While I'm disappointed, I would expect (and understand) Marco to follow him to the U. He can absolutely play at that level.

It's disappointing, but it makes sense. And they don't have to worry about bickering over numbers, because nobody on that team has 44 right now.



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Post by Real Life Aggie » March 31st, 2021, 4:21 pm

I mean everyone on here wants to talk about how good we are, and how we could do this or that, but the minute things come up, yall are like, "Coach Smith can't coach at a PAC-12 level" or "Marco can't play at a PAC-12 level". It's inconsistent and stupid.

Either these guys really are good, or they're not. Marco is either an elite defender with a weird shot, or he's an okay defender just because he's not playing good competition. He doesn't get to be both depending on what better suits your current argument. Either Craig Smith can outcoach better teams (see SDSU this year and last year, when SDSU was obviously at/above PAC-12 levels of competition), or it was a fluke and he got lucky. You can't have it both ways.
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Post by AggiesForever » March 31st, 2021, 4:31 pm

The problem I see with our current roster, as constructed, is it was Queta and a whole bunch of role players. I do think Bean will flourish with a little more room to maneuver in the middle. He's definitely a 15 feet-in type of player, and showed that he can be very good doing that on many occasions.

Going forward with whomever the coach is, we need to see a few more guys who can take the rock into their hands and create and make some things happen. The new coach needs to bring/find at least two of the kinds of players who can operate with the ball in their hands, and create their own shot and make it. We have very few of those now.



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Post by bpd » March 31st, 2021, 4:35 pm

We are now the whitest team ever.
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Post by Real Life Aggie » March 31st, 2021, 4:40 pm

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We are now the whitest team ever.
At least it's a very diverse group of white guys, lol. We've got 3 hemispheres of white guys.



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Post by ineptimusprime » March 31st, 2021, 4:43 pm

bpd wrote:
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We are now the whitest team ever.
Yikes, Queta, Anthony, and Fonz all gone. We are making BYU look diverse!



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Post by OGaggie23 » March 31st, 2021, 4:45 pm

I do believe that ash-worth is staying in logan so depending on who stays and goes are starting five would be 1. ashworth 2. rollie 3. miller 4.bean 5.dorius? that starting five is the whitest team ever



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Post by imanaggie » March 31st, 2021, 4:49 pm

OGaggie23 wrote:
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I do believe that ash-worth is staying in logan so depending on who stays and goes are starting five would be 1. ashworth 2. rollie 3. miller 4.bean 5.dorius? that starting five is the whitest team ever
Not only is it very white, but it is not a team that will win a lot of games. I don't think USU was going to be very good next year even with Craig Smith. Hopefully the new coach can get some transfers or it might be a long season.



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Post by aggies22 » March 31st, 2021, 5:04 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:43 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
I believe this is how it is going to go down as well.
Yes, I'm quoting myself. Marco STAYS!!! He wants to see who we hire.
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Post by ineptimusprime » March 31st, 2021, 5:08 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:04 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:43 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
I believe this is how it is going to go down as well.
Yes, I'm quoting myself. Marco STAYS!!! Wants to see who we hire.
Smart man, that Marco.



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Post by Bank Shot » March 31st, 2021, 5:10 pm

Guy has to stay on top of things here. I didn't know he was gone.



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Post by Roy McAvoy » March 31st, 2021, 5:12 pm

ineptimusprime wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:08 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:04 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:43 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
I believe this is how it is going to go down as well.
Yes, I'm quoting myself. Marco STAYS!!! Wants to see who we hire.
Smart man, that Marco.
Oh man, I hope so. The new coach has work cutout work for him. My source at Utah seemed confident Marco was coming.



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Post by coolag » March 31st, 2021, 10:19 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:04 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:43 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
I believe this is how it is going to go down as well.
Yes, I'm quoting myself. Marco STAYS!!! He wants to see who we hire.
Good because I was about to burn that mother&$#!!!! Down. The UofU I mean.


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Post by aggies22 » March 31st, 2021, 10:56 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:12 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:08 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:04 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:43 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
I believe this is how it is going to go down as well.
Yes, I'm quoting myself. Marco STAYS!!! Wants to see who we hire.
Smart man, that Marco.
Oh man, I hope so. The new coach has work cutout work for him. My source at Utah seemed confident Marco was coming.
Nope. He had a change of heart. Rollie and Max are staying as well.
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Post by bigblue32 » March 31st, 2021, 10:59 pm

:cheers:
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 10:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:12 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:08 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:04 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:43 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
I believe this is how it is going to go down as well.
Yes, I'm quoting myself. Marco STAYS!!! Wants to see who we hire.
Smart man, that Marco.
Oh man, I hope so. The new coach has work cutout work for him. My source at Utah seemed confident Marco was coming.
Nope. He had a change of heart. Rollie and Max are staying as well.
Yes!!!!!!



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Post by SpectrumMagic » March 31st, 2021, 11:10 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 10:56 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:12 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:08 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 5:04 pm
aggies22 wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:43 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
March 31st, 2021, 2:26 pm
I heard there's some real smoke to Marco following Smith to Utah.
I believe this is how it is going to go down as well.
Yes, I'm quoting myself. Marco STAYS!!! Wants to see who we hire.
Smart man, that Marco.
Oh man, I hope so. The new coach has work cutout work for him. My source at Utah seemed confident Marco was coming.
Nope. He had a change of heart. Rollie and Max are staying as well.
Is this due to Hartwell sharing the list of candidates with them or that we are getting close to a hire and and they like the candidates or potential hire?



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Post by WAAggie » March 31st, 2021, 11:20 pm

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