Aggies 22 Says It's Odom

Post by **aggies22** » April 5th, 2021, 2:59 pm

jpswensen wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 1:36 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:24 pm

Aggie702 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:13 pm

Can somebody let Jeff Goodman know that I beat him by 36 minutes?
Only blue checkmarks are believable.

Seriously, though, why don't you have a blue check by now?

How do I earn a blue checkmark?

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » April 5th, 2021, 3:01 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 2:41 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 1:39 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:10 pm
Ryan Odom = solid 8/10 in the looks department. Will probably be with you for at least a good five years, maybe forever depending on how things go. Much more sensible decisions will be made, and it’ll still be pretty fun.
Based on what evidence?
I deal too much with evidence in real life to have to worry about presenting evidence on a message board. This is just a gut prediction.

No worries. As long as it's just your opinion that's fine. Based on the opinions that you've been sharing over the years that I've been reading this board, I have no issues with that. However, I'll just say that we'll never know if you're right or wrong.

dirtnsnow · Post by **dirtnsnow** » April 5th, 2021, 3:02 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 2:59 pm

jpswensen wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 1:36 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:24 pm

Aggie702 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:13 pm

Can somebody let Jeff Goodman know that I beat him by 36 minutes?
Only blue checkmarks are believable.

Seriously, though, why don't you have a blue check by now?
How do I earn a blue checkmark?

I've got a blue check machine that you can go through, and all it will cost is $5.

gomretat · Post by **gomretat** » April 5th, 2021, 3:04 pm

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:02 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 2:59 pm

jpswensen wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 1:36 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:24 pm

Aggie702 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:13 pm

Can somebody let Jeff Goodman know that I beat him by 36 minutes?
Only blue checkmarks are believable.

Seriously, though, why don't you have a blue check by now?
How do I earn a blue checkmark?
I've got a blue check machine that you can go through, and all it will cost is $5.

I will do it for $4.75

Post by **aggies22** » April 5th, 2021, 3:06 pm

gomretat wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:04 pm

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:02 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 2:59 pm

jpswensen wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 1:36 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:24 pm

Aggie702 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:13 pm

Can somebody let Jeff Goodman know that I beat him by 36 minutes?
Only blue checkmarks are believable.

Seriously, though, why don't you have a blue check by now?
How do I earn a blue checkmark?
I've got a blue check machine that you can go through, and all it will cost is $5.
I will do it for $4.75

Like the Sneeches?

Aggiealum13 · Post by **Aggiealum13** » April 5th, 2021, 3:09 pm

Odom has a more impressive resume than Smith did at South Dakota. I'm excited about this new chapter. I heard he was seriously in the running for the Virginia Tech job a couple years ago.

NavyBlueAggie · Post by **NavyBlueAggie** » April 5th, 2021, 3:11 pm

Donman wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 11:42 am
https://twitter.com/BrianPhillipsa1/sta ... 8550754306

I'd say 22 was spot on. Hartwell may have grabbed another gem from the cosmos.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » April 5th, 2021, 3:13 pm

One thing about Hartwell we all have to learn is... you will rarely guess his HC candidates, but they'll most likely be way better than what you thought. The man can hire when left to his own devices.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » April 5th, 2021, 3:17 pm

NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 2:47 pm

nvspuds wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 2:43 pm
I am a big old white dude and I don't feel safe in Logan..However, my little jest was about the departed Smith saying his wife loved Logan when he was pretending he was sticking around..
Nor should you, it is a dangerous place.

https://www.ksl.com/article/18565982/lo ... -free-area

I just like to take shots at Eric Musselman's wife's comments.

The Logan street toughs have a bad reputation - like LeRoy Brown bad. You're wise to not push your luck walking the streets and alleyways of Logan after dark. And be sure to lock your car doors or you're likely to have someone break in and leave you a bag of zucchini from their garden.

NowhereLandAggie · Post by **NowhereLandAggie** » April 5th, 2021, 3:20 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:17 pm

NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 2:47 pm

nvspuds wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 2:43 pm
I am a big old white dude and I don't feel safe in Logan..However, my little jest was about the departed Smith saying his wife loved Logan when he was pretending he was sticking around..
Nor should you, it is a dangerous place.

https://www.ksl.com/article/18565982/lo ... -free-area

I just like to take shots at Eric Musselman's wife's comments.
The Logan street toughs have a bad reputation - like LeRoy Brown bad. You're wise to not push your luck walking the streets and alleyways of Logan after dark. And be sure to lock your car doors or you're likely to have someone break in and leave you a bag of zucchini from their garden.

We really need a laugh button, not just a like one.

I was at the game that Musselman's wife was at a few years back. While the crowd was raucous, no one yelled racial epithets at anyone that I heard. If they had the crowd would have gotten after them, but alas she was fearful for her safety there.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 5th, 2021, 3:25 pm

Aggiealum13 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Odom has a more impressive resume than Smith did at South Dakota. I'm excited about this new chapter. I heard he was seriously in the running for the Virginia Tech job a couple years ago.

Have we ever hired a coach that had a tournament win before coming to USU?

This looks to be a homerun hire. I don't know how anyone can complain about it. The only issue is he will be completely new to the region, but a good coach can pick that up in a hurry. Urban Meyer had never coached near Florida yet won a national title in his second year there. Odom will do great!

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » April 5th, 2021, 3:30 pm

I love that we have an AD looks outside the Mountain West region for coaches. Opens up the map to us recruiting. The Local players will always be an option.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » April 5th, 2021, 3:30 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:25 pm

Aggiealum13 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Odom has a more impressive resume than Smith did at South Dakota. I'm excited about this new chapter. I heard he was seriously in the running for the Virginia Tech job a couple years ago.
Have we ever hired a coach that had a tournament win before coming to USU?

This looks to be a homerun hire. I don't know how anyone can complain about it. The only issue is he will be completely new to the region, but a good coach can pick that up in a hurry. Urban Meyer had never coached near Florida yet won a national title in his second year there. Odom will do great!

He needs to invite the Wasatch Academy kids up to play pick-up ball games with the team in the summer. That would be a good place to start.

CaptainChaos · Post by **CaptainChaos** » April 5th, 2021, 3:34 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:25 pm

Aggiealum13 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Odom has a more impressive resume than Smith did at South Dakota. I'm excited about this new chapter. I heard he was seriously in the running for the Virginia Tech job a couple years ago.
Have we ever hired a coach that had a tournament win before coming to USU?

This looks to be a homerun hire. I don't know how anyone can complain about it. The only issue is he will be completely new to the region, but a good coach can pick that up in a hurry. Urban Meyer had never coached near Florida yet won a national title in his second year there. Odom will do great!

The real question is what does Keegan Andersen think of the hire- or that other bum I think at the desnews what's his name?

AggieFBObsession · Post by **AggieFBObsession** » April 5th, 2021, 3:36 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:25 pm
This looks to be a homerun hire. I don't know how anyone can complain about it. The only issue is he will be completely new to the region, but a good coach can pick that up in a hurry. Urban Meyer had never coached near Florida yet won a national title in his second year there. Odom will do great!

Apples and oranges. Everyone in college football knew about Urban Myer when he made that move.

I like the hire, but I think the jury is still out on the hire. So far, so good, though. I really like that he grew up in a basketball coaching family that was very successful. He eats, breaths and drinks basketball.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 5th, 2021, 3:36 pm

CaptainChaos wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:34 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:25 pm

Aggiealum13 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Odom has a more impressive resume than Smith did at South Dakota. I'm excited about this new chapter. I heard he was seriously in the running for the Virginia Tech job a couple years ago.
Have we ever hired a coach that had a tournament win before coming to USU?

This looks to be a homerun hire. I don't know how anyone can complain about it. The only issue is he will be completely new to the region, but a good coach can pick that up in a hurry. Urban Meyer had never coached near Florida yet won a national title in his second year there. Odom will do great!
The real question is what does Keegan Andersen think of the hire- or that other bum I think at the desnews what's his name?

Very good point. I should withhold my judgement of the hire until I know what Keegan Andersen thinks about it. I also need to know what Tim Duryea's wife thinks of it too. And yes Doug Robinson too.

None of us should have opinions until those 3 great minds let us know what to think.

AGGIEinIOWA · Post by **AGGIEinIOWA** » April 5th, 2021, 3:38 pm

Has it been announced when the press conference is going to be?

NowhereLandAggie · Post by **NowhereLandAggie** » April 5th, 2021, 3:39 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:36 pm

CaptainChaos wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:34 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:25 pm

Aggiealum13 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Odom has a more impressive resume than Smith did at South Dakota. I'm excited about this new chapter. I heard he was seriously in the running for the Virginia Tech job a couple years ago.
Have we ever hired a coach that had a tournament win before coming to USU?

This looks to be a homerun hire. I don't know how anyone can complain about it. The only issue is he will be completely new to the region, but a good coach can pick that up in a hurry. Urban Meyer had never coached near Florida yet won a national title in his second year there. Odom will do great!
The real question is what does Keegan Andersen think of the hire- or that other bum I think at the desnews what's his name?
Very good point. I should withhold my judgement of the hire until I know what Keegan Andersen thinks about it. I also need to know what Tim Duryea's wife thinks of it too. And yes Doug Robinson too.

None of us should have opinions until those 3 great minds let us know what to think.

What about Alex Wheat and Danyelle Sargent? There needs to be a consensus before my jitters leave.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 5th, 2021, 3:40 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:36 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:25 pm
This looks to be a homerun hire. I don't know how anyone can complain about it. The only issue is he will be completely new to the region, but a good coach can pick that up in a hurry. Urban Meyer had never coached near Florida yet won a national title in his second year there. Odom will do great!
Apples and oranges. Everyone in college football knew about Urban Myer when he made that move.

I like the hire, but I think the jury is still out on the hire. So far, so good, though. I really like that he grew up in a basketball coaching family that was very successful. He eats, breaths and drinks basketball.

Well sure, the jury is out until the results come in. Most of like the Blake Anderson hire in football, but if he goes 9-27 over the next 3 years obviously it won't have been. I like Odom's track record. He had success at a tough place to win at UMBC. As you point out he is from a basketball family and it is part of his whole life from a young age.

My point about Urban was just if you are a great coach you will be able to win anywhere in the country even if you have no experience in that region. Time will tell, but it definitely has won me over to this point, at least if Keegan Anderson and Mrs Duryea approve.

SpectrumMagic · Post by **SpectrumMagic** » April 5th, 2021, 4:03 pm

Does anyone have any insight on the style of play and what his teams are known for?

Looking up Ken Pom data here is how his teams have ranked the last four years I would say that his teams play good defense as the D has been ranked much higher

2021
rank = 169
Adj O = 203
Adj D= 139

2020
rank = 256
Adj O = 258
Adj D = 252

2019
rank = 230
Adj O = 313
Adj D = 119

2018
rank = 166
Adj O = 206
Adj D = 124

gomretat · Post by **gomretat** » April 5th, 2021, 4:07 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:36 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:25 pm
This looks to be a homerun hire. I don't know how anyone can complain about it. The only issue is he will be completely new to the region, but a good coach can pick that up in a hurry. Urban Meyer had never coached near Florida yet won a national title in his second year there. Odom will do great!
Apples and oranges. Everyone in college football knew about Urban Myer when he made that move.

I like the hire, but I think the jury is still out on the hire. So far, so good, though. I really like that he grew up in a basketball coaching family that was very successful. He eats, breaths and drinks basketball.

The regional challenge might be recruiting in a new region if he feels like he wants kids from the Intermountain West (which I hope he does). Urban didn't have that issue at Florida because not only did everyone know him, finding great players who will consider playing at Florida is relatively easy. It appears like a great hire to me and I am very interested in the logic he uses in pulling together his assistants.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 5th, 2021, 4:11 pm

NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:39 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:36 pm

CaptainChaos wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:34 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:25 pm

Aggiealum13 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Odom has a more impressive resume than Smith did at South Dakota. I'm excited about this new chapter. I heard he was seriously in the running for the Virginia Tech job a couple years ago.
Have we ever hired a coach that had a tournament win before coming to USU?

This looks to be a homerun hire. I don't know how anyone can complain about it. The only issue is he will be completely new to the region, but a good coach can pick that up in a hurry. Urban Meyer had never coached near Florida yet won a national title in his second year there. Odom will do great!
The real question is what does Keegan Andersen think of the hire- or that other bum I think at the desnews what's his name?
Very good point. I should withhold my judgement of the hire until I know what Keegan Andersen thinks about it. I also need to know what Tim Duryea's wife thinks of it too. And yes Doug Robinson too.

None of us should have opinions until those 3 great minds let us know what to think.
What about Alex Wheat and Danyelle Sargent? There needs to be a consensus before my jitters leave.

It is funny Danyell Sargent had such a problem with the Spectrum when she was fired from ESPN for dropping F bombs on Sportscenter.

BiocatAg · Post by **BiocatAg** » April 5th, 2021, 4:29 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:06 pm

gomretat wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:04 pm

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:02 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 2:59 pm

jpswensen wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 1:36 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:24 pm

Aggie702 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:13 pm

Can somebody let Jeff Goodman know that I beat him by 36 minutes?
Only blue checkmarks are believable.

Seriously, though, why don't you have a blue check by now?
How do I earn a blue checkmark?
I've got a blue check machine that you can go through, and all it will cost is $5.
I will do it for $4.75
Like the Sneeches?

All it will cost you is five dollars eaches!

mcaggie1 · Post by **mcaggie1** » April 5th, 2021, 4:34 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:36 pm

CaptainChaos wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:34 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:25 pm

Aggiealum13 wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 3:09 pm
Odom has a more impressive resume than Smith did at South Dakota. I'm excited about this new chapter. I heard he was seriously in the running for the Virginia Tech job a couple years ago.
Have we ever hired a coach that had a tournament win before coming to USU?

This looks to be a homerun hire. I don't know how anyone can complain about it. The only issue is he will be completely new to the region, but a good coach can pick that up in a hurry. Urban Meyer had never coached near Florida yet won a national title in his second year there. Odom will do great!
The real question is what does Keegan Andersen think of the hire- or that other bum I think at the desnews what's his name?
Very good point. I should withhold my judgement of the hire until I know what Keegan Andersen thinks about it. I also need to know what Tim Duryea's wife thinks of it too. And yes Doug Robinson too.

None of us should have opinions until those 3 great minds let us know what to think.

Now that’s funny!!!

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » April 5th, 2021, 4:50 pm

Did we just upgrade our coach, and get a million dollars additional in the bank?!?!?

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » April 5th, 2021, 4:54 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 4:50 pm
Did we just upgrade our coach, and get a million dollars additional in the bank?!?!?

Remains to be seen, but we can hope!

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » April 5th, 2021, 4:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:20 pm
@brownjeans is this more the winning you were looking for?

And take into account @SLB post one above mine.

Honestly, I can't say I'm excited. Not totally down on the hire, but not excited either. He's around .600 for his career. Had one miracle season but when measured against his total body of work seems like an outlier.
I wasn't really excited about Smith either and that worked out. Hartwell seems to be drawn to young coaches who may be able to harness USU and Spectrum to blow up. Maybe it satisfies Hartwell's ego or something. It's great so long as he keeps being right, but I think USU has enough going for it that we could find coaches who have accomplished more.

Odom could turn out to be great. I'll be rooting for him to have success at USU beyond his wildest dreams.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » April 5th, 2021, 5:00 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 4:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:20 pm
@brownjeans is this more the winning you were looking for?

And take into account @SLB post one above mine.
Honestly, I can't say I'm excited. Not totally down on the hire, but not excited either. He's around .600 for his career. Had one miracle season but when measured against his total body of work seems like an outlier.
I wasn't really excited about Smith either and that worked out. Hartwell seems to be drawn to young coaches who may be able to harness USU and Spectrum to blow up. Maybe it satisfies Hartwell's ego or something. It's great so long as he keeps being right, but I think USU has enough going for it that we could find coaches who have accomplished more.

Odom could turn out to be great. I'll be rooting for him to have success at USU beyond his wildest dreams.

Are we sure we will be allowed to have full crowds in the Spectrum any time soon? And if they are allowed, will people come back? Or are large gatherings not going to be so large any more for a generation?

AggieFanNate · Post by **AggieFanNate** » April 5th, 2021, 5:07 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 4:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:20 pm
@brownjeans is this more the winning you were looking for?

And take into account @SLB post one above mine.
Honestly, I can't say I'm excited. Not totally down on the hire, but not excited either. He's around .600 for his career. Had one miracle season but when measured against his total body of work seems like an outlier.
I wasn't really excited about Smith either and that worked out. Hartwell seems to be drawn to young coaches who may be able to harness USU and Spectrum to blow up. Maybe it satisfies Hartwell's ego or something. It's great so long as he keeps being right, but I think USU has enough going for it that we could find coaches who have accomplished more.

Odom could turn out to be great. I'll be rooting for him to have success at USU beyond his wildest dreams.

I'm sorry but I had to jump on to deal with this. Now his skills may be stretched at a higher level but seriously? Let's actually look at what he has done. He took a team with an abysmal record and not just like recent like us with Duryea, but they eternally sucked. He transformed them in a year into a 20 win team. Then the next year he went to the tournament and beat a 1 seed bringing umbc to the first tournament win in history and the first 16 to beat a one seed. And if you watch it wasn't luck it was his game plan that won that game. Then he had a good year but remember that level you need to win everything to get into the tournament. The year I'm sure you're having an issue with he had literally three starters injured for the whole year. Read the article passed around on here and you'll see he had a rough go of it last year. This year they did well they had a short season and he won the regular season but didn't win the tournament. I'm sorry but Craig Smith didn't have anything near this kind of resume who could we have gotten better? Konkol? I was all about konkol but odom is better.

Full · Post by **Full** » April 5th, 2021, 5:13 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 4:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:20 pm
@brownjeans is this more the winning you were looking for?

And take into account @SLB post one above mine.
Honestly, I can't say I'm excited. Not totally down on the hire, but not excited either. He's around .600 for his career. Had one miracle season but when measured against his total body of work seems like an outlier.
I wasn't really excited about Smith either and that worked out. Hartwell seems to be drawn to young coaches who may be able to harness USU and Spectrum to blow up. Maybe it satisfies Hartwell's ego or something. It's great so long as he keeps being right, but I think USU has enough going for it that we could find coaches who have accomplished more.

Odom could turn out to be great. I'll be rooting for him to have success at USU beyond his wildest dreams.

From 2004 to 2012 Randy Monroe went 85–159.

2004–05 11–18 5–13 T–8th
2005–06 10–19 5–11 T–8th
2006–07 12–19 7–9 T–4th
2007–08 24–9 13–3 1st NCAA Division I First Round
2008–09 15–17 7–9 6th
2009–10 4–26 3–13 8th
2010–11 5–25 4–12 9th
2011–12 4–26 3–13 8th

From 2012 to 2016 Aki Thomas went 28-95

2012–13 8–23 5–11 8th
2013–14 9–21 5–11 6th
2014–15 4–26 2–14 T–8th
2015–16 7–25 3–13 9th

Odem went 97-60
2016–17 21–13 9–7 5th CIT Semifinal
2017–18 25–11 12–4 2nd NCAA Division I Second Round
2018–19 21–13 11–5 3rd
2019–20 16-17 8–8 4th
2020–21 14–6 10–4 T–1st

When I saw the 2019-20 season I was skeptical, but injury issues outlined in an earlier post makes it understandable. I like the hire and hope he can build on what Stew built and Craig Smith rekindled.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » April 5th, 2021, 5:14 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 4:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:20 pm
@brownjeans is this more the winning you were looking for?

And take into account @SLB post one above mine.
Honestly, I can't say I'm excited. Not totally down on the hire, but not excited either. He's around .600 for his career. Had one miracle season but when measured against his total body of work seems like an outlier.
I wasn't really excited about Smith either and that worked out. Hartwell seems to be drawn to young coaches who may be able to harness USU and Spectrum to blow up. Maybe it satisfies Hartwell's ego or something. It's great so long as he keeps being right, but I think USU has enough going for it that we could find coaches who have accomplished more.

Odom could turn out to be great. I'll be rooting for him to have success at USU beyond his wildest dreams.

I get the feeling that you would have been disappointed with anyone since it was Hartwell that was making the call.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » April 5th, 2021, 5:24 pm

AggieFanNate wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 5:07 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 4:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:20 pm
@brownjeans is this more the winning you were looking for?

And take into account @SLB post one above mine.
Honestly, I can't say I'm excited. Not totally down on the hire, but not excited either. He's around .600 for his career. Had one miracle season but when measured against his total body of work seems like an outlier.
I wasn't really excited about Smith either and that worked out. Hartwell seems to be drawn to young coaches who may be able to harness USU and Spectrum to blow up. Maybe it satisfies Hartwell's ego or something. It's great so long as he keeps being right, but I think USU has enough going for it that we could find coaches who have accomplished more.

Odom could turn out to be great. I'll be rooting for him to have success at USU beyond his wildest dreams.
I'm sorry but I had to jump on to deal with this. Now his skills may be stretched at a higher level but seriously? Let's actually look at what he has done. He took a team with an abysmal record and not just like recent like us with Duryea, but they eternally sucked. He transformed them in a year into a 20 win team. Then the next year he went to the tournament and beat a 1 seed bringing umbc to the first tournament win in history and the first 16 to beat a one seed. And if you watch it wasn't luck it was his game plan that won that game. Then he had a good year but remember that level you need to win everything to get into the tournament. The year I'm sure you're having an issue with he had literally three starters injured for the whole year. Read the article passed around on here and you'll see he had a rough go of it last year. This year they did well they had a short season and he won the regular season but didn't win the tournament. I'm sorry but Craig Smith didn't have anything near this kind of resume who could we have gotten better? Konkol? I was all about konkol but odom is better.

Look, what I wrote was not an attack. I'm not having an issue with any one year. I'm happy to throw out the one down year if you're happy to throw out the one miracle year.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » April 5th, 2021, 5:24 pm

nvspuds wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 2:29 pm
Does his wife absolutely love Logan?

I hear she already has plans to remodel the kitchen.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » April 5th, 2021, 5:26 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 5:14 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 4:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:20 pm
@brownjeans is this more the winning you were looking for?

And take into account @SLB post one above mine.
Honestly, I can't say I'm excited. Not totally down on the hire, but not excited either. He's around .600 for his career. Had one miracle season but when measured against his total body of work seems like an outlier.
I wasn't really excited about Smith either and that worked out. Hartwell seems to be drawn to young coaches who may be able to harness USU and Spectrum to blow up. Maybe it satisfies Hartwell's ego or something. It's great so long as he keeps being right, but I think USU has enough going for it that we could find coaches who have accomplished more.

Odom could turn out to be great. I'll be rooting for him to have success at USU beyond his wildest dreams.
I get the feeling that you would have been disappointed with anyone since it was Hartwell that was making the call.

So if I'm not excited I'm disappointed? I refer you to the bold in my post. I'm fine and wish him great success.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » April 5th, 2021, 5:26 pm

Full wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 5:13 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 4:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 5th, 2021, 12:20 pm
@brownjeans is this more the winning you were looking for?

And take into account @SLB post one above mine.
Honestly, I can't say I'm excited. Not totally down on the hire, but not excited either. He's around .600 for his career. Had one miracle season but when measured against his total body of work seems like an outlier.
I wasn't really excited about Smith either and that worked out. Hartwell seems to be drawn to young coaches who may be able to harness USU and Spectrum to blow up. Maybe it satisfies Hartwell's ego or something. It's great so long as he keeps being right, but I think USU has enough going for it that we could find coaches who have accomplished more.

Odom could turn out to be great. I'll be rooting for him to have success at USU beyond his wildest dreams.
From 2004 to 2012 Randy Monroe went 85–159.

2004–05 11–18 5–13 T–8th
2005–06 10–19 5–11 T–8th
2006–07 12–19 7–9 T–4th
2007–08 24–9 13–3 1st NCAA Division I First Round
2008–09 15–17 7–9 6th
2009–10 4–26 3–13 8th
2010–11 5–25 4–12 9th
2011–12 4–26 3–13 8th

From 2012 to 2016 Aki Thomas went 28-95

2012–13 8–23 5–11 8th
2013–14 9–21 5–11 6th
2014–15 4–26 2–14 T–8th
2015–16 7–25 3–13 9th

Odem went 97-60
2016–17 21–13 9–7 5th CIT Semifinal
2017–18 25–11 12–4 2nd NCAA Division I Second Round
2018–19 21–13 11–5 3rd
2019–20 16-17 8–8 4th
2020–21 14–6 10–4 T–1st

When I saw the 2019-20 season I was skeptical, but injury issues outlined in an earlier post makes it understandable. I like the hire and hope he can build on what Stew built and Craig Smith rekindled.

Sorry, what do the two coaches you mention have to do with my post?

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