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I was one of them. I have changed gears and now am concerned.
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Yeah, seeing 22’s optimism the last couple days has kept me hopeful. But now I am feeling very down on this coming season. Hopefully I am wrong.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑April 12th, 2021, 9:11 pmI was one of them. I have changed gears and now am concerned.
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Might as well have hired Peterson instead and we would’ve at least kept Rollie and Marco.
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Another interesting America East player that Odom would be familiar with just entered the portal.
Zach Cooks from NJIT. He's on the shorter side (5'10") but lightning in a bottle and a work horse. He started every game for the past 3 years and averaged 37 minutes a game. Over those three years he's averaged 18 points, 5 rebounds, and 2 assists and shot 34% from 3. Would be fun to have someone this electric handling the ball in the Spectrum. Reminds me a bit of Jazz Johnson from Nevada a few years back.
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Zach Cooks from NJIT. He's on the shorter side (5'10") but lightning in a bottle and a work horse. He started every game for the past 3 years and averaged 37 minutes a game. Over those three years he's averaged 18 points, 5 rebounds, and 2 assists and shot 34% from 3. Would be fun to have someone this electric handling the ball in the Spectrum. Reminds me a bit of Jazz Johnson from Nevada a few years back.
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Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
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Not a great start to the Odom era.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
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I am willing to be patient but I hope it pays off at some point. Odom really inherited a poor situation.2004AG wrote: ↑April 12th, 2021, 11:17 pmNot a great start to the Odom era.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
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We haven’t had any success in the portal before. In the past could maybe chalk it up to lack of playing time available but what would excuse be this year?Aglicious wrote: ↑April 12th, 2021, 11:26 pmI am willing to be patient but I hope it pays off at some point. Odom really inherited a poor situation.2004AG wrote: ↑April 12th, 2021, 11:17 pmNot a great start to the Odom era.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
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I'm having a hard time worrying. It's never helped me in the past. I'll just wait and see what happens.
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That's not new, and yet we still kick their as*es!
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I did say relax. I'm not saying panic either but we aren't off to a great start. Everybody else is getting better and we're stuck begging our own players to come back.
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My plan would be to pick up a couple AE stars like Cooks and Horvath and Eytle-Rock for short term and also 2-3 P5 cast-offs for long term building.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
There are 32 NCAA D1 basketball conferences. The MWC is typically around #10 and the America East is typically around #20, which is the same range as the Big West and the Big Sky. Teams like San Diego State have done quite well using the best players from a league like the Big West as significant pieces in their program. Personally I don’t mind taking someone like Zach Cooks who is likely one of the all time scoring leaders at NJIT, and has carried their team for 3 years, than the 10th man at Texas who had 4 stars but has never averaged more than 4 minutes a game and never played in any pressure situations. That being said, I hope we get some athletic, high potential P5 cast offs as well but I definitely wouldn’t mind getting some mid-major stars either.
A couple other things. If you wanted to pull in a few pieces that would help you be immediately competitive next season I’d just as soon grab a few America East all-stars than I would P5 end of the benchers. Some of those P5’ers like Marco are good for the future due to their potential but a some instant impact alpha’s from lower tier leagues shouldn’t be ignored in my opinion. Besides, Odom probably has some connections and familiarity with AE all-stars and would know if they would be a fit or not.
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It seems from his interviews that Odom is interested in getting both low-major stars and P5 castoffs. There is plenty of talent at lower levels. Kansas recently signed a D2 All-American.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:25 amThere are 32 NCAA D1 basketball conferences. The MWC is typically around #10 and the America East is typically around #20, which is the same range as the Big West and the Big Sky. Teams like San Diego State have done quite well using the best players from a league like the Big West as significant pieces in their program. Personally I don’t mind taking someone like Zach Cook who is likely one of the all time scoring leaders at NJIT, and has carried their team for 3 years, than the 10th man at Texas who had 4 stars but has never averaged more than 4 minutes a game and never played in any pressure situations. That being said, I hope we get some athletic, high potential P5 cast offs as well but I definitely wouldn’t mind getting some mid-major stars either.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
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Well, I think it’s time for Odom to devote all time and resources to getting a staff named and recruiting players not already in our program. Other than Bean and Ashworth, who are both apparently solidly in the fold, there isn’t anyone else left now that Marco and Rollie are gone that I would lose sleep over leaving. I am happy if they want to stay and develop here, but if not, that’s okay.
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Yikes - I know there has been some issues in athletics (football with prior staff, people out to get Hartwell etc) but are these issues still prevalent?
Is there a really poor perception of Logan and northern Utah from the outside or within basketball people?
When Mrs Musselman screamed racism from our fans is that perception still out there?
I know that when a coach leaves there will be some changes but it seemed like Craig and his staff had a heck of a time bringing in talent. The MWC is a good conference with good facilities players get to play in, USU has a history of winning and success, has a great homecourt and support.
I know getting P5 transfers or "winning" the transfer wars each year is not a guarantee of being a good team and there are a lot of players in the portal and plenty of time I am just wondering if there are issues or perception issues that are making things difficult?
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@aggies22 - Lost top two targets in that they have committed to other programs or have said thanks but no thanks to USU?
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Let’s not draw this conclusion yet. With Rollie’s, Marco’s, and Neemi’s departures, we have prime playing time available at a program with an established tradition of winning basketball in a solid mid-major conference. We’ve never been in a better spot to be attractive to grad transfers. If we strikeout here, then yes, we should probably start trying to make sense of things and draw some conclusions.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:45 amYikes - I know there has been some issues in athletics (football with prior staff, people out to get Hartwell etc) but are these issues still prevalent?
Is there a really poor perception of Logan and northern Utah from the outside or within basketball people?
When Mrs Musselman screamed racism from our fans is that perception still out there?
I know that when a coach leaves there will be some changes but it seemed like Craig and his staff had a heck of a time bringing in talent. The MWC is a good conference with good facilities players get to play in, USU has a history of winning and success, has a great homecourt and support.
I know getting P5 transfers or "winning" the transfer wars each year is not a guarantee of being a good team and there are a lot of players in the portal and plenty of time I am just wondering if there are issues or perception issues that are making things difficult?
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Committed to other programs.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:48 am@aggies22 - Lost top two targets in that they have committed to other programs or have said thanks but no thanks to USU?
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thanks for the answer and information you provideaggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:54 amCommitted to other programs.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:48 am@aggies22 - Lost top two targets in that they have committed to other programs or have said thanks but no thanks to USU?
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Are there any Kansas cast offs worth looking at?ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:33 amIt seems from his interviews that Odom is interested in getting both low-major stars and P5 castoffs. There is plenty of talent at lower levels. Kansas recently signed a D2 All-American.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:25 amThere are 32 NCAA D1 basketball conferences. The MWC is typically around #10 and the America East is typically around #20, which is the same range as the Big West and the Big Sky. Teams like San Diego State have done quite well using the best players from a league like the Big West as significant pieces in their program. Personally I don’t mind taking someone like Zach Cook who is likely one of the all time scoring leaders at NJIT, and has carried their team for 3 years, than the 10th man at Texas who had 4 stars but has never averaged more than 4 minutes a game and never played in any pressure situations. That being said, I hope we get some athletic, high potential P5 cast offs as well but I definitely wouldn’t mind getting some mid-major stars either.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
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How was this list created and does the NCAA know something we don't?
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Don’t think so.aggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:57 amAre there any Kansas cast offs worth looking at?ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:33 amIt seems from his interviews that Odom is interested in getting both low-major stars and P5 castoffs. There is plenty of talent at lower levels. Kansas recently signed a D2 All-American.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:25 amThere are 32 NCAA D1 basketball conferences. The MWC is typically around #10 and the America East is typically around #20, which is the same range as the Big West and the Big Sky. Teams like San Diego State have done quite well using the best players from a league like the Big West as significant pieces in their program. Personally I don’t mind taking someone like Zach Cook who is likely one of the all time scoring leaders at NJIT, and has carried their team for 3 years, than the 10th man at Texas who had 4 stars but has never averaged more than 4 minutes a game and never played in any pressure situations. That being said, I hope we get some athletic, high potential P5 cast offs as well but I definitely wouldn’t mind getting some mid-major stars either.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
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Don’t think so. I think Enaruna played at Wasatch, but he was pretty disappointing at KU.aggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:57 amAre there any Kansas cast offs worth looking at?ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:33 amIt seems from his interviews that Odom is interested in getting both low-major stars and P5 castoffs. There is plenty of talent at lower levels. Kansas recently signed a D2 All-American.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:25 amThere are 32 NCAA D1 basketball conferences. The MWC is typically around #10 and the America East is typically around #20, which is the same range as the Big West and the Big Sky. Teams like San Diego State have done quite well using the best players from a league like the Big West as significant pieces in their program. Personally I don’t mind taking someone like Zach Cook who is likely one of the all time scoring leaders at NJIT, and has carried their team for 3 years, than the 10th man at Texas who had 4 stars but has never averaged more than 4 minutes a game and never played in any pressure situations. That being said, I hope we get some athletic, high potential P5 cast offs as well but I definitely wouldn’t mind getting some mid-major stars either.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
Enaruna would be the only “maybe.” But he’s very passive and did not shoot the ball particularly well. Muscadin never played, so who knows there. It’s a “no” on Jossell and Grant-Foster from me.
Would definitely prefer Horvath from UMBC to Enaruna.
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He did play at Wasatch Academy.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:05 amDon’t think so. I think Enaruna played at Wasatch, but he was pretty disappointing at KU.aggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:57 amAre there any Kansas cast offs worth looking at?ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:33 amIt seems from his interviews that Odom is interested in getting both low-major stars and P5 castoffs. There is plenty of talent at lower levels. Kansas recently signed a D2 All-American.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:25 amThere are 32 NCAA D1 basketball conferences. The MWC is typically around #10 and the America East is typically around #20, which is the same range as the Big West and the Big Sky. Teams like San Diego State have done quite well using the best players from a league like the Big West as significant pieces in their program. Personally I don’t mind taking someone like Zach Cook who is likely one of the all time scoring leaders at NJIT, and has carried their team for 3 years, than the 10th man at Texas who had 4 stars but has never averaged more than 4 minutes a game and never played in any pressure situations. That being said, I hope we get some athletic, high potential P5 cast offs as well but I definitely wouldn’t mind getting some mid-major stars either.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
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We should def be looking at that guy. Ku was deep on the wings. He is 6’8” with a 7’0” wingspan. Potential elite defensive guy.aggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:06 amHe did play at Wasatch Academy.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:05 amDon’t think so. I think Enaruna played at Wasatch, but he was pretty disappointing at KU.aggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:57 amAre there any Kansas cast offs worth looking at?ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:33 amIt seems from his interviews that Odom is interested in getting both low-major stars and P5 castoffs. There is plenty of talent at lower levels. Kansas recently signed a D2 All-American.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:25 amThere are 32 NCAA D1 basketball conferences. The MWC is typically around #10 and the America East is typically around #20, which is the same range as the Big West and the Big Sky. Teams like San Diego State have done quite well using the best players from a league like the Big West as significant pieces in their program. Personally I don’t mind taking someone like Zach Cook who is likely one of the all time scoring leaders at NJIT, and has carried their team for 3 years, than the 10th man at Texas who had 4 stars but has never averaged more than 4 minutes a game and never played in any pressure situations. That being said, I hope we get some athletic, high potential P5 cast offs as well but I definitely wouldn’t mind getting some mid-major stars either.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
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Enaruna got some run. There may be untapped potential there, but I’d look elsewhere first.slcagg wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:10 amWe should def be looking at that guy. Ku was deep on the wings. He is 6’8” with a 7’0” wingspan. Potential elite defensive guy.aggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:06 amHe did play at Wasatch Academy.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:05 amDon’t think so. I think Enaruna played at Wasatch, but he was pretty disappointing at KU.aggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:57 amAre there any Kansas cast offs worth looking at?ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:33 amIt seems from his interviews that Odom is interested in getting both low-major stars and P5 castoffs. There is plenty of talent at lower levels. Kansas recently signed a D2 All-American.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:25 amThere are 32 NCAA D1 basketball conferences. The MWC is typically around #10 and the America East is typically around #20, which is the same range as the Big West and the Big Sky. Teams like San Diego State have done quite well using the best players from a league like the Big West as significant pieces in their program. Personally I don’t mind taking someone like Zach Cook who is likely one of the all time scoring leaders at NJIT, and has carried their team for 3 years, than the 10th man at Texas who had 4 stars but has never averaged more than 4 minutes a game and never played in any pressure situations. That being said, I hope we get some athletic, high potential P5 cast offs as well but I definitely wouldn’t mind getting some mid-major stars either.Aglicious wrote:Something doesn't seem to be adding up for the success of our future when our conference mates are busy loading their rosters with transfers from the Big12 and Pac12 while we are hoping to get some American East players.
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It is time to bring the dumpster fire logo back. I don’t care what y’all say just do it. The basketball program has turned into a dumpster fireaggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:54 amCommitted to other programs.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:48 am@aggies22 - Lost top two targets in that they have committed to other programs or have said thanks but no thanks to USU?
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You have a very odd obsession with this.Notatrueaggie wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:18 amIt is time to bring the dumpster fire logo back. I don’t care what y’all say just do it. The basketball program has turned into a dumpster fireaggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:54 amCommitted to other programs.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:48 am@aggies22 - Lost top two targets in that they have committed to other programs or have said thanks but no thanks to USU?
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I think it's funny when it's used.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:21 amYou have a very odd obsession with this.Notatrueaggie wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:18 amIt is time to bring the dumpster fire logo back. I don’t care what y’all say just do it. The basketball program has turned into a dumpster fireaggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:54 amCommitted to other programs.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:48 am@aggies22 - Lost top two targets in that they have committed to other programs or have said thanks but no thanks to USU?
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Plus this time it’s accurate.aggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:30 amI think it's funny when it's used.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:21 amYou have a very odd obsession with this.Notatrueaggie wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:18 amIt is time to bring the dumpster fire logo back. I don’t care what y’all say just do it. The basketball program has turned into a dumpster fireaggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:54 amCommitted to other programs.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:48 am@aggies22 - Lost top two targets in that they have committed to other programs or have said thanks but no thanks to USU?
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So everyone is freaking out and afraid that our program is going to be a dumpster fire. Come on people the new coach hasn’t even been here for two weeks. His philosophy is extremely different from Coach Smith’s, so we can expect some turnover and with the transfer rules this year giving everyone a free year, we can expect a lot of turnover across the board in college basketball. I for one am going to remain calm and wait and see how things turn next year. We can all panic when and if we turn into a dumpster fire on the court next season. Until that happens I think everyone need to calm down and realize that we all freaked out when Craig Smith was hired and things started off slowly for him as well. I think things turned out pretty good during his stay here.
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I still think it is premature by a few weeks. We still need to see what Odom brings in. If the talent level doesn't improve soon, put the logo up and we can prepare for a rough season next year.hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:38 amPlus this time it’s accurate.aggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:30 amI think it's funny when it's used.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:21 amYou have a very odd obsession with this.Notatrueaggie wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 8:18 amIt is time to bring the dumpster fire logo back. I don’t care what y’all say just do it. The basketball program has turned into a dumpster fireaggies22 wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:54 amCommitted to other programs.SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑April 13th, 2021, 7:48 am@aggies22 - Lost top two targets in that they have committed to other programs or have said thanks but no thanks to USU?
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UMBC's R.J. Eytle-Rock is now in the portal. Guess we'll see if Odom has had talks with him....