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Well, if it helps, I’m considering Roddy as a guard too. CSU and Nevada should be the favorites next year. Let’s hope they wear the crown better than Boise did. CSU and Nevada are my favorite conference mates (slight edge to CSU because of that poor fire extinguisher)nvspuds wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:06 pmNever apologize.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:04 pmI mean, maybe? Matt Bradley filled a stat sheet on a really bad Cal team, but I would be excited if we had signed him.Aglicious wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:00 pmI would take the 3 you listed but I would take Cambridge above all of them....and I would take Matt Bradley (now at SDSU) above them too.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:57 pmI suppose I’m just not as impressed with the guards in the MW as many of you. I’d take Moore, Stevens, and Sherfield on our team for sure, but, if I’m honest, no one else we played last year was that memorable. Maybe that was Marco playing good defense?Aglicious wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:50 pmThat would be me. I just worry about what we are up against in the MWC when it comes to guards. Thank goodness Marcus Williams moved on but we still have to contend with guards like Stevens, Moore, Butler, Sherfield, Cambridge, etc. I don't think this signing still gives us anyone on par with these guys but I do think he helps fill a role as another ball handler on the court and someone who can create for himself and others.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:11 pmSome people have expressed a big "meh" at this transfer. I will say though he was a 40% 3 point shooter & this team desperately needs that. If we can now just add one more very athletic transfer Guard I'll be really pleased with the offseason.
If we can add a quick athletic guard that has more traditional elite PG skills then I'm a bit more on board with this transfer. If he is being looked at as the main solution at PG, I don't think we are going to measure up. I do like his 3-pt shooting % but his shot motion is awfully slow. I'm not sure he'll have the luxury of having that much time in this league so it will be interesting if he can make it at the same rate if he is sped up.
I’d take CSU’s guard line over Nevada’s. Not even hesitation (sorry nvspuds).
If we can sign someone like a Kendle Moore with the last two scholarships, I’d be over the moon.
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So two years of RJ and one year of Horvath, right?
FWIW, UMBC G/F Keondre Kennedy retweeted RJ’s announcement. Could just be supporting a teammate, but thought I’d pass that along.
Kennedy is a pretty bad three point shooter, but seems to be able to create his own shot, and was the AE SMOTY. Might be a nice bench piece, especially if we have any more departures. I don’t know that he’d be my first choice of how to use the last two scholarships, but not the last either. Any of our UMBC friends want to chime in?
FWIW, UMBC G/F Keondre Kennedy retweeted RJ’s announcement. Could just be supporting a teammate, but thought I’d pass that along.
Kennedy is a pretty bad three point shooter, but seems to be able to create his own shot, and was the AE SMOTY. Might be a nice bench piece, especially if we have any more departures. I don’t know that he’d be my first choice of how to use the last two scholarships, but not the last either. Any of our UMBC friends want to chime in?
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Re: Eytle-Rock
Looking at his highlights, I really like how he uses his left hand, but the number of long 2's concern me. Unless he can hit those in the high 40% range or better (really rare, even in the NBA) it's not a good shot. I'd much rather see him take a step back and shoot those as threes.
As mentioned, he'd probably be a bit better if he could play at around 210 rather than 225 provided he kept his strength. Would probably make him a bit quicker.
What kind of a defender is he?
As mentioned, he'd probably be a bit better if he could play at around 210 rather than 225 provided he kept his strength. Would probably make him a bit quicker.
What kind of a defender is he?
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And he was 93.8% on FTsineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:14 pmSo two years of RJ and one year of Horvath, right?
FWIW, UMBC G/F Keondre Kennedy retweeted RJ’s announcement. Could just be supporting a teammate, but thought I’d pass that along.
Kennedy is a pretty bad three point shooter, but seems to be able to create his own shot, and was the AE SMOTY. Might be a nice bench piece, especially if we have any more departures. I don’t know that he’d be my first choice of how to use the last two scholarships, but not the last either. Any of our UMBC friends want to chime in?
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Re: Eytle-Rock
Really solid pickup. I like how strong he is and is able to finish at the rim. Not the fastest or quickest player, but really solid pickup. Would like to see a PG and a good shooting 2/3 position for the remaining spots. RJ for sure lessens the sting of losing Rollie. I don't know how good defensively RJ is, but we need to him to be good at defense as well considering Anthony was a beast at that position on defense.
This for sure eases everyone's frustrations on all of the silence from the new coach. Any time you can get 2 first team all conference players from a conference similar to the Big Sky I consider that a good step in the right direction.
This for sure eases everyone's frustrations on all of the silence from the new coach. Any time you can get 2 first team all conference players from a conference similar to the Big Sky I consider that a good step in the right direction.
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Loved the highlight film. Didn't miss a single shot
He seems to release his outside shot a little low, but the defender seemed to have no idea when he was going to release it, so he seemed to be crafty enough to get it off.
He seems to release his outside shot a little low, but the defender seemed to have no idea when he was going to release it, so he seemed to be crafty enough to get it off.
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Exactly. The Groves twins from EWU ended up at Oklahoma. I think landing Horvath and Eytle-Rock is comparable.Aggie84025 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:33 pmReally solid pickup. I like how strong he is and is able to finish at the rim. Not the fastest or quickest player, but really solid pickup. Would like to see a PG and a good shooting 2/3 position for the remaining spots. RJ for sure lessens the sting of losing Rollie. I don't know how good defensively RJ is, but we need to him to be good at defense as well considering Anthony was a beast at that position on defense.
This for sure eases everyone's frustrations on all of the silence from the new coach. Any time you can get 2 first team all conference players from a conference similar to the Big Sky I consider that a good step in the right direction.
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Good catch. We could always use a guy that can get to the cup and make 90+ percent from FT.SLB wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:33 pmAnd he was 93.8% on FTsineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:14 pmSo two years of RJ and one year of Horvath, right?
FWIW, UMBC G/F Keondre Kennedy retweeted RJ’s announcement. Could just be supporting a teammate, but thought I’d pass that along.
Kennedy is a pretty bad three point shooter, but seems to be able to create his own shot, and was the AE SMOTY. Might be a nice bench piece, especially if we have any more departures. I don’t know that he’d be my first choice of how to use the last two scholarships, but not the last either. Any of our UMBC friends want to chime in?
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And with some strict dieting and strength training he could get whipped into shape quickly.hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:14 pmI don’t know how you can watch his highlights and not be intrigued by his handles and ability to attack the rim. Not to mention his 3 pt%. Has a strong build like Matt Mitchell and won’t get knocked around. I love this signing.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:11 pmSome people have expressed a big "meh" at this transfer. I will say though he was a 40% 3 point shooter & this team desperately needs that. If we can now just add one more very athletic transfer Guard I'll be really pleased with the offseason.
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Yessir! Super excited to see him and Brandon play together with Odom again.
This is going to be good test for his game. He's been progressing tremendously with Odom over the past 3 seasons so I don't doubt he'll continue to grow. Really smart player with ability to consistently hit open 3's, but hoping to see some improvement in creating his own 3.
This is going to be good test for his game. He's been progressing tremendously with Odom over the past 3 seasons so I don't doubt he'll continue to grow. Really smart player with ability to consistently hit open 3's, but hoping to see some improvement in creating his own 3.
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Love, love Kennedy's game. His 3 ball has been inconsistent in D1, but shot 41% from 3 in JUCO (69/173). He is quick, crafty, has an amazing passing IQ, and can get his shot off against anyone. He is due for that 3 ball to find some consistency too...ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:14 pmSo two years of RJ and one year of Horvath, right?
FWIW, UMBC G/F Keondre Kennedy retweeted RJ’s announcement. Could just be supporting a teammate, but thought I’d pass that along.
Kennedy is a pretty bad three point shooter, but seems to be able to create his own shot, and was the AE SMOTY. Might be a nice bench piece, especially if we have any more departures. I don’t know that he’d be my first choice of how to use the last two scholarships, but not the last either. Any of our UMBC friends want to chime in?
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Do you think he has the ability to play a true full-time PG or do you see him more as a combo guard and not really an effective full-time PG in a conference full of good PG's?umbc32244 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:46 pmYessir! Super excited to see him and Brandon play together with Odom again.
This is going to be good test for his game. He's been progressing tremendously with Odom over the past 3 seasons so I don't doubt he'll continue to grow. Really smart player with ability to consistently hit open 3's, but hoping to see some improvement in creating his own 3.
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Not too familiar with USU's roster but I'd surmise combo guard - I liked having Rogers/Kennedy at point at UMBC. While he was a great team defender, he struggled with some lateral quickness at times with the quicker guards so also imagine he won't defend the MW PGs too much.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:49 pmDo you think he has the ability to play a true full-time PG or do you see him more as a combo guard and not really an effective full-time PG in a conference full of good PG's?umbc32244 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:46 pmYessir! Super excited to see him and Brandon play together with Odom again.
This is going to be good test for his game. He's been progressing tremendously with Odom over the past 3 seasons so I don't doubt he'll continue to grow. Really smart player with ability to consistently hit open 3's, but hoping to see some improvement in creating his own 3.
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So do we really expect him to wear #5?
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I like those highlights. How does he defend?umbc32244 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:49 pmLove, love Kennedy's game. His 3 ball has been inconsistent in D1, but shot 41% from 3 in JUCO (69/173). He is quick, crafty, has an amazing passing IQ, and can get his shot off against anyone. He is due for that 3 ball to find some consistency too...ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:14 pmSo two years of RJ and one year of Horvath, right?
FWIW, UMBC G/F Keondre Kennedy retweeted RJ’s announcement. Could just be supporting a teammate, but thought I’d pass that along.
Kennedy is a pretty bad three point shooter, but seems to be able to create his own shot, and was the AE SMOTY. Might be a nice bench piece, especially if we have any more departures. I don’t know that he’d be my first choice of how to use the last two scholarships, but not the last either. Any of our UMBC friends want to chime in?
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We could use an athlete like this. We always seem to not be the most athletic team, but this guy would help.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 2:23 pmI like those highlights. How does he defend?umbc32244 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:49 pmLove, love Kennedy's game. His 3 ball has been inconsistent in D1, but shot 41% from 3 in JUCO (69/173). He is quick, crafty, has an amazing passing IQ, and can get his shot off against anyone. He is due for that 3 ball to find some consistency too...ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:14 pmSo two years of RJ and one year of Horvath, right?
FWIW, UMBC G/F Keondre Kennedy retweeted RJ’s announcement. Could just be supporting a teammate, but thought I’d pass that along.
Kennedy is a pretty bad three point shooter, but seems to be able to create his own shot, and was the AE SMOTY. Might be a nice bench piece, especially if we have any more departures. I don’t know that he’d be my first choice of how to use the last two scholarships, but not the last either. Any of our UMBC friends want to chime in?
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If we play Valley Forge next year, I'm feeling pretty confident.
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Solid man defender, and I think it was a key reason he was 6th Man of the Year. Odom really only played guys who could defend, though, aside from one big he played for his inside-out offensive sets. Odom let a young PG go (Jose Placer at UNF who scored 15 PPG as a sophomore this season) because he wasn't buying in defensively like Eytle-Rock.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 2:23 pmI like those highlights. How does he defend?umbc32244 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:49 pmLove, love Kennedy's game. His 3 ball has been inconsistent in D1, but shot 41% from 3 in JUCO (69/173). He is quick, crafty, has an amazing passing IQ, and can get his shot off against anyone. He is due for that 3 ball to find some consistency too...ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:14 pmSo two years of RJ and one year of Horvath, right?
FWIW, UMBC G/F Keondre Kennedy retweeted RJ’s announcement. Could just be supporting a teammate, but thought I’d pass that along.
Kennedy is a pretty bad three point shooter, but seems to be able to create his own shot, and was the AE SMOTY. Might be a nice bench piece, especially if we have any more departures. I don’t know that he’d be my first choice of how to use the last two scholarships, but not the last either. Any of our UMBC friends want to chime in?
Only negative thing I can really say about Kennedy's game at the America East level was his lack of 3 point success.
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I've noticed with players that either have a thicker build or even if they are overweight, they probably aren't going to be slimming down to your prototypical Jordan style build. If you can keep weight on playing college basketball then you either need to stop eating so much or your body is just naturally that shape. I don't think this dude needs to be in better shape unless you saw game film of him being gassed or something.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:43 pmAnd with some strict dieting and strength training he could get whipped into shape quickly.hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:14 pmI don’t know how you can watch his highlights and not be intrigued by his handles and ability to attack the rim. Not to mention his 3 pt%. Has a strong build like Matt Mitchell and won’t get knocked around. I love this signing.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:11 pmSome people have expressed a big "meh" at this transfer. I will say though he was a 40% 3 point shooter & this team desperately needs that. If we can now just add one more very athletic transfer Guard I'll be really pleased with the offseason.
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ER will definitely benefit from better nutrition. I'm not sure how strong he is or what his endurance is like but he likely needs to put a little more emphasis into strength training. No question that he can and needs to transform his body if he wants to get better and become more athletic. Look at what Matt Mitchell and Sam Merrill were able to do. Sam never dunked in his four years of college basketball and now he's dunked twice in the NBA with extremely limited playing time. Sam worked his a$s off during the off season and focused on his diet. Through strength training and nutrition bodies WILL change shape.frankiesaysrelax wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 3:46 pmI've noticed with players that either have a thicker build or even if they are overweight, they probably aren't going to be slimming down to your prototypical Jordan style build. If you can keep weight on playing college basketball then you either need to stop eating so much or your body is just naturally that shape. I don't think this dude needs to be in better shape unless you saw game film of him being gassed or something.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:43 pmAnd with some strict dieting and strength training he could get whipped into shape quickly.hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:14 pmI don’t know how you can watch his highlights and not be intrigued by his handles and ability to attack the rim. Not to mention his 3 pt%. Has a strong build like Matt Mitchell and won’t get knocked around. I love this signing.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:11 pmSome people have expressed a big "meh" at this transfer. I will say though he was a 40% 3 point shooter & this team desperately needs that. If we can now just add one more very athletic transfer Guard I'll be really pleased with the offseason.
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That conditioning comes into play when playing at altitude, as well.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 4:04 pmER will definitely benefit from better nutrition. I'm not sure how strong he is or what his endurance is like but he likely needs to put a little more emphasis into strength training. No question that he can and needs to transform his body if he wants to get better and become more athletic. Look at what Matt Mitchell and Sam Merrill were able to do. Sam never dunked in his four years of college basketball and now he's dunked twice in the NBA with extremely limited playing time. Sam worked his a$s off during the off season and focused on his diet. Through strength training and nutrition bodies WILL change shape.frankiesaysrelax wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 3:46 pmI've noticed with players that either have a thicker build or even if they are overweight, they probably aren't going to be slimming down to your prototypical Jordan style build. If you can keep weight on playing college basketball then you either need to stop eating so much or your body is just naturally that shape. I don't think this dude needs to be in better shape unless you saw game film of him being gassed or something.Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:43 pmAnd with some strict dieting and strength training he could get whipped into shape quickly.hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:14 pmI don’t know how you can watch his highlights and not be intrigued by his handles and ability to attack the rim. Not to mention his 3 pt%. Has a strong build like Matt Mitchell and won’t get knocked around. I love this signing.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:11 pmSome people have expressed a big "meh" at this transfer. I will say though he was a 40% 3 point shooter & this team desperately needs that. If we can now just add one more very athletic transfer Guard I'll be really pleased with the offseason.
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I wouldn't use the phrase "whipped into shape"Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:43 pmAnd with some strict dieting and strength training he could get whipped into shape quickly.hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:14 pmI don’t know how you can watch his highlights and not be intrigued by his handles and ability to attack the rim. Not to mention his 3 pt%. Has a strong build like Matt Mitchell and won’t get knocked around. I love this signing.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:11 pmSome people have expressed a big "meh" at this transfer. I will say though he was a 40% 3 point shooter & this team desperately needs that. If we can now just add one more very athletic transfer Guard I'll be really pleased with the offseason.
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Yeah perhaps "whipped" isn't a good word for it but he could transform his body pretty quickly. It's not like he has a lot of work to do.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:04 pmI wouldn't use the phrase "whipped into shape"Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 1:43 pmAnd with some strict dieting and strength training he could get whipped into shape quickly.hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:14 pmI don’t know how you can watch his highlights and not be intrigued by his handles and ability to attack the rim. Not to mention his 3 pt%. Has a strong build like Matt Mitchell and won’t get knocked around. I love this signing.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 12:11 pmSome people have expressed a big "meh" at this transfer. I will say though he was a 40% 3 point shooter & this team desperately needs that. If we can now just add one more very athletic transfer Guard I'll be really pleased with the offseason.
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Objectively, it's a good pick-up. However, the coaching staff thus far has only managed to lose key players from last year's team and bring a few from their old school. Not terribly impressive. Are they adding any new talent in the near future that we should be excited about?
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40% from 3 is music to my ears!! Our shooting was awful
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But the 2 BEST players from their old school. I would take the top 2 players from the top team in the American East any day. We knew we would lose Queta and probably a few other guys. Rollie and Marco leaving was a surprise, but Eytle Rock and Horvath have more D1 playing experience and seem to be more of an offensive threat.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:14 pmObjectively, it's a good pick-up. However, the coaching staff thus far has only managed to lose key players from last year's team and bring a few from their old school. Not terribly impressive. Are they adding any new talent in the near future that we should be excited about?
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The other day you were saying our foundational players were already on the team lol. Now you are coming to the basic understanding that Smith didn't leave the necessary talent to win the MW?OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:14 pmObjectively, it's a good pick-up. However, the coaching staff thus far has only managed to lose key players from last year's team and bring a few from their old school. Not terribly impressive. Are they adding any new talent in the near future that we should be excited about?
Horvath and Eytle-Rock are great pick ups.
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Watching his highlights, he really reminds me of Matt Mitchell. It looks like he likes to dribble a lot. It also looks like he plays pretty darn calm and collected.
I've got to go watch a full UMBC game from last year, now.
I've got to go watch a full UMBC game from last year, now.
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Never said that, said there are guys on the roster that could potentially be foundational players. They have the talent, it's on them.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:22 pmThe other day you were saying our foundational players were already on the team lol. Now you are coming to the basic understanding that Smith didn't leave the necessary talent to win the MW?OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:14 pmObjectively, it's a good pick-up. However, the coaching staff thus far has only managed to lose key players from last year's team and bring a few from their old school. Not terribly impressive. Are they adding any new talent in the near future that we should be excited about?
Horvath and Eytle-Rock are great pick ups.
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This was the de facto "AE Regular Season Title" game. Winner got #1 seed.
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Disagree they have the talent to be foundational players. Foundational players mean your best players, your leaders and guys you build around to win at a high level. The three you mentioned don't match the criteria. Hope they contribute and are solid, but you aren't making the NCAA tournament building around Bairstow and McChesney, sorry. Besides Bean there is a good chance Eytle-Rock and Horvath will be our best players next year. Hopefully Odom adds another proven transfer before this is done.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:40 pmNever said that, said there are guys on the roster that could potentially be foundational players. They have the talent, it's on them.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:22 pmThe other day you were saying our foundational players were already on the team lol. Now you are coming to the basic understanding that Smith didn't leave the necessary talent to win the MW?OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:14 pmObjectively, it's a good pick-up. However, the coaching staff thus far has only managed to lose key players from last year's team and bring a few from their old school. Not terribly impressive. Are they adding any new talent in the near future that we should be excited about?
Horvath and Eytle-Rock are great pick ups.
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Or two. Or three. Or hey, let’s talk Marco into staying. Or maybe Fonz?Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:43 pmDisagree they have the talent to be foundational players. Foundational players mean your best players, your leaders and guys you build around to win at a high level. The three you mentioned don't match the criteria. Hope they contribute and are solid, but you aren't making the NCAA tournament building around Bairstow and McChesney, sorry. Besides Bean there is a good chance Eytle-Rock and Horvath will be our best players next year. Hopefully Odom adds another proven transfer before this is done.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:40 pmNever said that, said there are guys on the roster that could potentially be foundational players. They have the talent, it's on them.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:22 pmThe other day you were saying our foundational players were already on the team lol. Now you are coming to the basic understanding that Smith didn't leave the necessary talent to win the MW?OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑April 19th, 2021, 5:14 pmObjectively, it's a good pick-up. However, the coaching staff thus far has only managed to lose key players from last year's team and bring a few from their old school. Not terribly impressive. Are they adding any new talent in the near future that we should be excited about?
Horvath and Eytle-Rock are great pick ups.
Between Miller’s health issues, and guys currently on the roster maybe wanting to leave after guys are added that will be taking PT from them, I think the odds are good that we will be adding at least 3 more players to the roster next year that are not currently on the roster.