Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by ineptimusprime » November 9th, 2021, 11:52 pm

BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Here’s a scary thought for you — a hobbled Miller might honestly be our third best player.



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by AggieFanNate » November 10th, 2021, 12:00 am

SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:42 pm
AggieFanNate wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:40 pm
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:34 pm
AggieFanNate wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:28 pm
Aggiesbleedblue wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:01 pm
I’m getting major Duryea vibes from Odom already, from his demeanor, to his offensive style and recruiting. I said it was an underwhelming hire back in April and I stand by that.
Wow chill out with this hot take. 😅 I don't see anything to do with Duryea here. They took Duryea because they thought they could take the success of Morrill and kept it going. Odom has proven his success. Just cause he doesn't scream and yell and make people want to jump off a cliff in enthusiasm doesn't mean he is a bad coach. Like wow guys chill. Shulga isn't even a mw player? Just a few weeks ago we were saying he was a strong addition to our depth. I mean 360 much?
I would say that Miller getting hurt was the game-changer looking at the stats. Shulga will have to be the guy to make the plays going forward, and I stand by 3rd leading scorer prediction with Shulga. I like the potential with the team going forward.
I agree I saw jones getting a bit of rhythm at the end of the game. Eytle rock has talent but he can't be trying to just drive in. He needs to keep control. Ashworth hit a huge three too. I mean I think we just need to play cleaner.
Ashworth went 1-8, and some people are bashing an injured Miller for the lost is silly. I agree with that, and I suspect that Shulga will get playing time more and more as the season goes on.
The whole team had a weird 3rd point percentage. We won't shoot that bad in the future.
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by SLB » November 10th, 2021, 12:01 am

BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Last season on offense, it was really the Miller and Queta show both helping each other in getting points with Bean being the great 3rd wheel. When Miller went down late in the season with that back injury, our team lost it then we lost to Boise State and the MWC title. We beat San Diego State twice with a healthy Miller (was our leading scorer in one of those games). Miller was putting together a solid season while being our top shooter, and Miller really developed last season after struggling for years. The back injury with Miller has been something that we have yet to overcome since last season. Miller plays injured since then which leads to missed 3s and many other things.
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by Aggie84025 » November 10th, 2021, 12:03 am

That was underwhelming for sure. Couple of thoughts from being at the game. We need more offensive sets ran. The times we ran some sets we scored some easy buckets. Rebounding was probably my biggest disappointment from the night. Up by 12 and had a chance to bury them to go up 20 and we missed 5-6 fairly easy layups, we make those and it was a different game. Horvath was dominating in the first half and then he sat for a huge portion of time, did not like that. Fish and chips (my nephews nickname for Eytle Rock) was very underwhelming. He needs to shoot a few more outside shots then just take 3's. Jones while not super athletic is scrappy and love his effort, 4 charges tonight. He needs to look for his (I can't express myself without swearing) more.
Comes down to making shots which we sucked at tonight. This team is not going to out athletic anybody they are going to have to do it by playing really good team ball. Thought Odom should have used some timeouts in certain spot to quell momentum.
I certainly am upset, but believe we will get better.



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by BleedAggieBlue0 » November 10th, 2021, 12:11 am

ineptimusprime wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Here’s a scary thought for you — a hobbled Miller might honestly be our third best player.
Horrifying. I don’t think he is, but I also don’t think highly of the overall talent level on this team. Realistically the talent level has not been on par with top MW teams for years, but Sam and Nemi are so elite that they covered it up most of the time. That and Smith’s teams having a solid identity.

Odom needs to find a way to manufacture easy buckets within the offense if this team is going to have any chance of finishing top 6 in the league.


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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by BleedAggieBlue0 » November 10th, 2021, 12:14 am

SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Last season on offense, it was really the Miller and Queta show both helping each other in getting points with Bean being the great 3rd wheel. When Miller went down late in the season with that back injury, our team lost it then we lost to Boise State and the MWC title. We beat San Diego State twice with a healthy Miller (was our leading scorer in one of those games). Miller was putting together a solid season while being our top shooter, and Miller really developed last season after struggling for years. The back injury with Miller has been something that we have yet to overcome since last season. Miller plays injured since then which leads to missed 3s and many other things.
What led to his massive amount of missed threes in all of his other seasons here? What about every other part of basketball that isn’t shooting?


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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by ineptimusprime » November 10th, 2021, 12:14 am

BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:11 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Here’s a scary thought for you — a hobbled Miller might honestly be our third best player.
Horrifying. I don’t think he is, but I also don’t think highly of the overall talent level on this team. Realistically the talent level has not been on par with top MW teams for years, but Sam and Nemi are so elite that they covered it up most of the time. That and Smith’s teams having a solid identity.

Odom needs to find a way to manufacture easy buckets within the offense if this team is going to have any chance of finishing top 6 in the league.

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After tonight’s performance, I am questioning whether we can win 6 games, let alone finish Top 6.



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by AggieFanNate » November 10th, 2021, 12:16 am

ineptimusprime wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:14 am
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:11 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Here’s a scary thought for you — a hobbled Miller might honestly be our third best player.
Horrifying. I don’t think he is, but I also don’t think highly of the overall talent level on this team. Realistically the talent level has not been on par with top MW teams for years, but Sam and Nemi are so elite that they covered it up most of the time. That and Smith’s teams having a solid identity.

Odom needs to find a way to manufacture easy buckets within the offense if this team is going to have any chance of finishing top 6 in the league.

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After tonight’s performance, I am questioning whether we can win 6 games, let alone finish Top 6.
Sports fans are such drama queens my gosh
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by ineptimusprime » November 10th, 2021, 12:16 am

BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:14 am
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Last season on offense, it was really the Miller and Queta show both helping each other in getting points with Bean being the great 3rd wheel. When Miller went down late in the season with that back injury, our team lost it then we lost to Boise State and the MWC title. We beat San Diego State twice with a healthy Miller (was our leading scorer in one of those games). Miller was putting together a solid season while being our top shooter, and Miller really developed last season after struggling for years. The back injury with Miller has been something that we have yet to overcome since last season. Miller plays injured since then which leads to missed 3s and many other things.
What led to his massive amount of missed threes in all of his other seasons here? What about every other part of basketball that isn’t shooting?


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Brock, when healthy, actually played okay team defense. He has never been the turn-style that Ashworth is.
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by BleedAggieBlue0 » November 10th, 2021, 12:19 am

AggieFanNate wrote:
ineptimusprime wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:14 am
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:11 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Here’s a scary thought for you — a hobbled Miller might honestly be our third best player.
Horrifying. I don’t think he is, but I also don’t think highly of the overall talent level on this team. Realistically the talent level has not been on par with top MW teams for years, but Sam and Nemi are so elite that they covered it up most of the time. That and Smith’s teams having a solid identity.

Odom needs to find a way to manufacture easy buckets within the offense if this team is going to have any chance of finishing top 6 in the league.

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After tonight’s performance, I am questioning whether we can win 6 games, let alone finish Top 6.
Sports fans are such drama queens my gosh
Hi, AggieFanNate.
Did you intentionally ignore me asking you where you predict this team to finish in the MWC?
Is there a reason for that?
Since you’re so much more patient and less dramatic, surely you’ll have a more accurate prediction than me.


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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by SLB » November 10th, 2021, 12:20 am

BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:14 am
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Last season on offense, it was really the Miller and Queta show both helping each other in getting points with Bean being the great 3rd wheel. When Miller went down late in the season with that back injury, our team lost it then we lost to Boise State and the MWC title. We beat San Diego State twice with a healthy Miller (was our leading scorer in one of those games). Miller was putting together a solid season while being our top shooter, and Miller really developed last season after struggling for years. The back injury with Miller has been something that we have yet to overcome since last season. Miller plays injured since then which leads to missed 3s and many other things.
What led to his massive amount of missed threes in all of his other seasons here? What about every other part of basketball that isn’t shooting?


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Miller was so much improved in every part of his game last season compared to the seasons before. It was Miller in on making almost every clutch moment last season which is why that back injury took the wind out of our sails last season. It happened again in this game.



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by ineptimusprime » November 10th, 2021, 12:22 am

AggieFanNate wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:16 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:14 am
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:11 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Here’s a scary thought for you — a hobbled Miller might honestly be our third best player.
Horrifying. I don’t think he is, but I also don’t think highly of the overall talent level on this team. Realistically the talent level has not been on par with top MW teams for years, but Sam and Nemi are so elite that they covered it up most of the time. That and Smith’s teams having a solid identity.

Odom needs to find a way to manufacture easy buckets within the offense if this team is going to have any chance of finishing top 6 in the league.

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After tonight’s performance, I am questioning whether we can win 6 games, let alone finish Top 6.
Sports fans are such drama queens my gosh
I mean, okay? I hope like hell I am wrong. But find me 6 teams on the schedule that you project to be weaker than UC-Davis? This was a buy game. It was designed to be a gimme. This was supposed to be a tune-up game for Richmond. Walk me through, why — with the teams left on our schedule and the performance you saw tonight — you are confident that this is a team that wins 10+ games.

This is a catastrophically bad loss. Probably the worst loss we’ve had in 4 years. There’s a reason we drew the attention of a tweet from a national sports writer. It’s because it’s a big deal and wasn’t supposed to happen.
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by SLB » November 10th, 2021, 12:23 am

ineptimusprime wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:16 am
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:14 am
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:49 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:32 pm
SLB wrote:
BleedAggieBlue0 wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:54 pm
ThunderAggie wrote:
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 10:08 pm
Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
Really? I mean there are times he looks like a good shooter, but there’s a reason some people call him Brick Miller. He is a chucker and can’t seem to be consistent. But, I really hope he can find his rhythm this year.
Brock has never been good and SLB’s weird obsession with him is one of the oddest Aggie sports opinions on the board.

This team has very little when it comes to talent. That’s not the fault of the players, it’s the fault of the coaches that brought them here.


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43.5% from 3 before the back injury, and Miller started game like that then his back got injured again led to missed shots. Miller was good last season, but the back injury to Miller was like Chuckie's knee injury never the same since.
Honestly what tf are you taking about? Why are you so obsessed with arguing in favor of Brock Miller?
I don’t think a single other poster on this board has ever argued this point except for you, because it makes absolutely no sense.
Brock came in as a three point specialist that contributes absolutely nothing else on the court besides chucking threes. And was NEVER even good at threes!
Are you referring to his first year here where he shot a whopping 9-19 from the 3pt line? That’s the sample size that you’ve chosen to cling on to?
I’m honestly not convinced you’ve watched an Aggie basketball game while Brock has been on the team, because this makes very literally zero sense.

I don’t even like sh*tting on Brock like this. I’m just not sure how someone can say this team (or any team above the HS level) needs a healthy Brock Miller to help them reach their goals.

This is insanity.

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Your hate for Miller made you miss all last season. Look at the game-by-game stats of last season before his injury, you get 43.5 % from 3 then his stats fall off a cliff because of that back injury. Porter was similar since he was a 40% 3-point shooter then back injury.
I don’t have a shred of hate for Miller, you’re delusional. I’m simply responding to your obsession.

You’re insisting that half of a season of good 3pt shooting makes Brock a good basketball player. Ignoring an entire career where he hasn’t contributed at the 3pt line, or more importantly- any statistical category in basketball.

He has not had any success here as a basketball player.

It looks like without his back injury, he may have eventually been the reliable sharp shooter we’d hoped for when he signed. That doesn’t change the fact that he was never anything more than a guy that was gonna stand there and catch a shoot. I posted a careers worth of stats to prove it. No rebounding, no assists, no defense, nothing except for the half a season with a good 3pt %.

If you weren’t in every basketball related thread insisting that a healthy Brock Miller is the missing piece, no one would have any reason to argue against it because it’s common knowledge that he’s not good enough to be critical to the team. He never was.

This is just weird.


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Last season on offense, it was really the Miller and Queta show both helping each other in getting points with Bean being the great 3rd wheel. When Miller went down late in the season with that back injury, our team lost it then we lost to Boise State and the MWC title. We beat San Diego State twice with a healthy Miller (was our leading scorer in one of those games). Miller was putting together a solid season while being our top shooter, and Miller really developed last season after struggling for years. The back injury with Miller has been something that we have yet to overcome since last season. Miller plays injured since then which leads to missed 3s and many other things.
What led to his massive amount of missed threes in all of his other seasons here? What about every other part of basketball that isn’t shooting?


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Brock, when healthy, actually played okay team defense. He has never been the turn-style that Ashworth is.
This is true. Miller is a good player that came on later in his career that got a bad injury that has taken away his ability to play.



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by Stockypoo2212 » November 10th, 2021, 12:24 am

Y'all need to take a step back and breathe. weve seen these guys perform and they will do it again and again this season. Brock Miller is not the best shooter on the team. It's either ashworth or Rylan and they need to look for their shot more! And RJ tries to do too much. He tried to play the hero today and it bit him in the butt. He needs to slow down. They will be fine this year. They just gotta get rolling!



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by SLB » November 10th, 2021, 12:30 am

Stockypoo2212 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:24 am
Y'all need to take a step back and breathe. weve seen these guys perform and they will do it again and again this season. Brock Miller is not the best shooter on the team. It's either ashworth or Rylan and they need to look for their shot more! And RJ tries to do too much. He tried to play the hero today and it bit him in the butt. He needs to slow down. They will be fine this year. They just gotta get rolling!
Brock is the best shooter when healthy which is why that back injury really strings. Look at the start of the game, Miller hit 2 3s and a 2 in no time then he sits then he comes back and reinjures his back. He would have had a ton of points with no back injury issues. It is a tough injury to hit our team.



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by ineptimusprime » November 10th, 2021, 12:31 am

Stockypoo2212 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:24 am
Y'all need to take a step back and breathe. weve seen these guys perform and they will do it again and again this season. Brock Miller is not the best shooter on the team. It's either ashworth or Rylan and they need to look for their shot more! And RJ tries to do too much. He tried to play the hero today and it bit him in the butt. He needs to slow down. They will be fine this year. They just gotta get rolling!
We’ve seen two of these guys perform (Bean and Miller) with an entirely different cast of characters.

Did the Duryea years just numb everyone to the point that losing a buy game at home to UC-Davis is an “awwshucks we’ll get ‘em next time” acceptable event? This is a really disappointing and embarrassing thing to have happen to USU basketball. It’s okay to vent.

What happened tonight is the functional equivalent of me losing a motion argument to a pro se party. We could beat Richmond and win the Myrtle Beach, and it’ll still be just as embarrassing (and even more frustrating) that we somehow lost a gimme game against UC-Davis. It’s fine if you disagree, but this’ll stick in my craw for a while.

Our coach should be embarrassed. Our players should be embarrassed. This was a major record scratch moment.
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by smfdaggie » November 10th, 2021, 12:37 am

After reading most of the posts on the game tonight, I really hope ineptimusprime isn't this negative about everything in his/her life. To get so worked up over 1 game is ridiculous. Give Odom and this team a chance before giving up.
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by ineptimusprime » November 10th, 2021, 12:40 am

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November 10th, 2021, 12:37 am
After reading most of the posts on the game tonight, I really hope ineptimusprime isn't this negative about everything in his/her life. To get so worked up over 1 game is ridiculous. Give Odom and this team a chance before giving up.
I am an insurance defense attorney. I am literally this bitter and negative about everything. :lol: Tonight’s outcome just isn’t something that will ever be acceptable for a basketball program of our caliber.

I refuse to take pot shots at individual players, but yeah, I can’t mask my disappoint well. I love college basketball and waited an entire offseason for THAT performance. I’m gonna need a minute.
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by SLB » November 10th, 2021, 12:41 am

ineptimusprime wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:40 am
smfdaggie wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:37 am
After reading most of the posts on the game tonight, I really hope ineptimusprime isn't this negative about everything in his/her life. To get so worked up over 1 game is ridiculous. Give Odom and this team a chance before giving up.
I am an insurance defense attorney. I am literally this bitter and negative about everything. :lol:
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by slcagg » November 10th, 2021, 5:41 am

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Virginia lost to Navy. Ohio St beat Akron on a buzzer beater. I’m not defending how the team played tonight because there are holes, but let’s all just chill out and see how the team comes together
I’m not upset, but the team isn’t going to come together. There are serious and gaping talent issues. This team could be the most cohesive team ever, but still struggle to win games.

I’m choosing not to be angry about it, because wasting energy getting mad at this team for not being good is like being mad at the sky for being blue. It just is what it is.
You could be right. But I also remember a very disappointing performance in South Dakota last year ad well to open up the season. Give it a few games.
It was super disappointing to lose to VCU, but VCU is basically a power conference school and we controlled large chunks of the game. We just lost a buy game at home. Not at all comparable.

This is a “season’s over before it starts” kind of game.
Did I say Vcu? We were blown off the floor by South Dakota state.



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by Usu0505 » November 10th, 2021, 5:44 am

ineptimusprime wrote:
Stockypoo2212 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:24 am
Y'all need to take a step back and breathe. weve seen these guys perform and they will do it again and again this season. Brock Miller is not the best shooter on the team. It's either ashworth or Rylan and they need to look for their shot more! And RJ tries to do too much. He tried to play the hero today and it bit him in the butt. He needs to slow down. They will be fine this year. They just gotta get rolling!
We’ve seen two of these guys perform (Bean and Miller) with an entirely different cast of characters.

Did the Duryea years just numb everyone to the point that losing a buy game at home to UC-Davis is an “awwshucks we’ll get ‘em next time” acceptable event? This is a really disappointing and embarrassing thing to have happen to USU basketball. It’s okay to vent.

What happened tonight is the functional equivalent of me losing a motion argument to a pro se party. We could beat Richmond and win the Myrtle Beach, and it’ll still be just as embarrassing (and even more frustrating) that we somehow lost a gimme game against UC-Davis. It’s fine if you disagree, but this’ll stick in my craw for a while.

Our coach should be embarrassed. Our players should be embarrassed. This was a major record scratch moment.
Bro. Give it a rest… We understand what you are saying, you are extremely concerned. Everyone is an embarrassment. We get it. Just calm down.


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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by brownjeans » November 10th, 2021, 5:48 am

Saw this and thought, I bet I know who wrote the headline of this thread...
I was right. 🤗
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Post by 2004AG » November 10th, 2021, 6:05 am

SLB wrote:
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Miller getting hurt definitely really has been an issue since last season. He is our best shooter.
And therein lies the problem...........



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by slcagg » November 10th, 2021, 6:27 am

brownjeans wrote:
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Saw this and thought, I bet I know who wrote the headline of this thread...
I was right. 🤗
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by sam tingey » November 10th, 2021, 6:57 am

This is what ineptimusprime gets for actually being "cautiously optimistic." Give the guy some slack. The team that he loves just had an embarrassing loss. We all can agree that this was a VERY BAD loss. Can our Aggies improve? sure, but there is a major lack of athleticism, shooting, and identity right now that is very concerning. I am rooting for Odom and crew to get it all together. I liked the heart that was shown, which makes this feel this is not the same as the Duryea years.
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by coolag » November 10th, 2021, 7:24 am

Usu0505 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 5:44 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
Stockypoo2212 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:24 am
Y'all need to take a step back and breathe. weve seen these guys perform and they will do it again and again this season. Brock Miller is not the best shooter on the team. It's either ashworth or Rylan and they need to look for their shot more! And RJ tries to do too much. He tried to play the hero today and it bit him in the butt. He needs to slow down. They will be fine this year. They just gotta get rolling!
We’ve seen two of these guys perform (Bean and Miller) with an entirely different cast of characters.

Did the Duryea years just numb everyone to the point that losing a buy game at home to UC-Davis is an “awwshucks we’ll get ‘em next time” acceptable event? This is a really disappointing and embarrassing thing to have happen to USU basketball. It’s okay to vent.

What happened tonight is the functional equivalent of me losing a motion argument to a pro se party. We could beat Richmond and win the Myrtle Beach, and it’ll still be just as embarrassing (and even more frustrating) that we somehow lost a gimme game against UC-Davis. It’s fine if you disagree, but this’ll stick in my craw for a while.

Our coach should be embarrassed. Our players should be embarrassed. This was a major record scratch moment.
Bro. Give it a rest… We understand what you are saying, you are extremely concerned. Everyone is an embarrassment. We get it. Just calm down.


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I think he should give it a rest when SLB gives it a rest with his robotic auto reply explaining the greatness of Brock Miller pre back injury.
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by ineptimusprime » November 10th, 2021, 7:25 am

It will come as no surprise to this board that my lowest rated category in my job reviews is “has a measured and appropriate response to stress.” :joking:

No dispute that I spiral when I am upset and disappointed.
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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by Usu0505 » November 10th, 2021, 7:32 am

coolag wrote:
Usu0505 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 5:44 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
Stockypoo2212 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 12:24 am
Y'all need to take a step back and breathe. weve seen these guys perform and they will do it again and again this season. Brock Miller is not the best shooter on the team. It's either ashworth or Rylan and they need to look for their shot more! And RJ tries to do too much. He tried to play the hero today and it bit him in the butt. He needs to slow down. They will be fine this year. They just gotta get rolling!
We’ve seen two of these guys perform (Bean and Miller) with an entirely different cast of characters.

Did the Duryea years just numb everyone to the point that losing a buy game at home to UC-Davis is an “awwshucks we’ll get ‘em next time” acceptable event? This is a really disappointing and embarrassing thing to have happen to USU basketball. It’s okay to vent.

What happened tonight is the functional equivalent of me losing a motion argument to a pro se party. We could beat Richmond and win the Myrtle Beach, and it’ll still be just as embarrassing (and even more frustrating) that we somehow lost a gimme game against UC-Davis. It’s fine if you disagree, but this’ll stick in my craw for a while.

Our coach should be embarrassed. Our players should be embarrassed. This was a major record scratch moment.
Bro. Give it a rest… We understand what you are saying, you are extremely concerned. Everyone is an embarrassment. We get it. Just calm down.


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I think he should give it a rest when SLB gives it a rest with his robotic auto reply explaining the greatness of Brock Miller pre back injury.
I agree with that as well. Same names same stats over and over.


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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by Bank Shot » November 10th, 2021, 7:47 am

Maybe Miller just needed his career stats to be reposted ad nauseum to find his stroke.



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by aggies22 » November 10th, 2021, 7:51 am

SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:03 pm
bpd wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:02 pm
I’m old enough to remember when Craig Smith led the Aggies out of the tunnel Sam Merrill’s senior year and we beat A bad Montana St team by one on opening night.

I think we will be fine, but I thought our players were very out of shape and failed to move away from the ball.
I am concerned about that too. Why so tired?
I made the same comment during the game.



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by Elkaggie » November 10th, 2021, 8:02 am

aggies22 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 7:51 am
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:03 pm
bpd wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:02 pm
I’m old enough to remember when Craig Smith led the Aggies out of the tunnel Sam Merrill’s senior year and we beat A bad Montana St team by one on opening night.

I think we will be fine, but I thought our players were very out of shape and failed to move away from the ball.
I am concerned about that too. Why so tired?
I made the same comment during the game.
Same. We looked gassed especially compared to the other team.
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Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by Usu0505 » November 10th, 2021, 8:05 am

Elkaggie wrote:
aggies22 wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 7:51 am
SLB wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:03 pm
bpd wrote:
November 9th, 2021, 11:02 pm
I’m old enough to remember when Craig Smith led the Aggies out of the tunnel Sam Merrill’s senior year and we beat A bad Montana St team by one on opening night.

I think we will be fine, but I thought our players were very out of shape and failed to move away from the ball.
I am concerned about that too. Why so tired?
I made the same comment during the game.
Same. We looked gassed especially compared to the other team.
We definitely looked gassed. One reason might be our starters essentially played the whole game minus Horvath due to foul trouble and about 7 minutes in the first half where our bench crushed our lead.

On the flip side, isn’t the team coming up from sea level the one supposed to be wore out by the end?


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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by NVAggie » November 10th, 2021, 8:27 am

I was pretty annoyed by the loss last night. I have since settled down after being reminded of many early season losses or close wins, even in recent years. One game does not make a season. I didn't see the first half, or even all of the second half, but what I saw was pretty bad. I remember times with Smith at the helm that we didn't do much on offense either. I hope to see some significant improvement moving forward. We have some decent pieces. We aren't going to compete at the highest level with these pieces, but they are pretty good if they will calm down and play together. I wouldn't say that my bearish pessimism was changed by this poor performance.



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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by SSaggie » November 10th, 2021, 8:32 am

Man the shade for Miller's 3pt percentage is such a fallacy. He is a multi-year starter on a MW championship team for a reason(s).

Just because he doesn't make as many threes as some of you think he should doesn't make him a subpar player. Statistically, threes don't need a fantastic percentage to be more valuable than a two point shot. But then again, three point percentage is only one aspect of several ways a player can impact a game.

I love the discussion. All the differing opinions make the board fun and opens my eyes to new ideas.

It seems like many people are throwing shade at Miller, but maybe it is only a couple of outspoken people who say it a bit more often (this is not passive aggressive, i enjoy your opinions and please keep sharing your thoughts).

With all this being said, it sure is nice when people are automatic from three, which was my main frustration with our guards that transferred. How do their 3pt percentages line up against millers?

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Re: Really embarrassing first impression for Odom

Post by Bank Shot » November 10th, 2021, 8:32 am

NVAggie wrote:
November 10th, 2021, 8:27 am
I was pretty annoyed by the loss last night. I have since settled down after being reminded of many early season losses or close wins, even in recent years. One game does not make a season. I didn't see the first half, or even all of the second half, but what I saw was pretty bad. I remember times with Smith at the helm that we didn't do much on offense either. I hope to see some significant improvement moving forward. We have some decent pieces. We aren't going to compete at the highest level with these pieces, but they are pretty good if they will calm down and play together. I wouldn't say that my bearish pessimism was changed by this poor performance.
Unlike Smith's teams (with Queta), I'm concerned that we are too weak defensively and on the boards to stay close when the offense goes dark.
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