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Post by QuackAttackAggie » February 20th, 2024, 4:23 pm

NVAggie wrote:
QuackAttackAggie wrote:
February 20th, 2024, 3:05 pm
Yossarian wrote:
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How often do soccer games end in a 0-0 tie? How often do both teams pitchers carry a no-hitter through 8 innings? I suppose there is a difference.
I am aware of 1 game when both teams threw no- hitters. That happened in a game between the Cubs and Reds, in 1917. I am assuming Quackattck's wife was watching that game and was not thrilled by it. I don't know of any others that have gone into the eighth with both teams throwing no- hitters. Although - he didn't specify that it was an MLB game, so who knows?
I was exaggerating (it was probably 4 or 5 innings), but I had a college game in mind, not an MLB game. We went to a lot of Oregon baseball games when I was in school.
It was beyond exaggeration, it was ignorant. For someone with sports knowledge, they know that a no-hitter is a big deal. You have less than a 0.2% chance of seeing one pitcher complete a no-hitter in an MLB game. In the English Premier leagues, you have about a 7% chance of seeing a 0-0 tie. Your comparison was flawed, and you knew it.

My point in bringing up flopping is that it gets atrocious in the last 20-30 minutes of a 0-0 tie (or any tie) because the road team wants to secure the point of a road tie. In the 0-0 game I attended, the road team flopped all over the place for 30 minutes and ruined the whole experience. For the 1-0 RSL win, the flopping was less intense by the home team, but the presence of a goal scored and the ensuing celebration wasn't enough to capture my fanhood.

I'm glad you both get to enjoy watching something you like. My dislike of soccer has nothing to do with ignorance of the game or league. I have never liked the blatant flopping in soccer. It is annoying to me. That is the same reason I dumped the NBA long ago.
Lol what a totally normal reaction to a comment that was obviously a joke from the beginning


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Re: Sam

Post by AggieFanNate » February 20th, 2024, 5:40 pm

NVAggie wrote:
February 20th, 2024, 3:22 pm
QuackAttackAggie wrote:
February 20th, 2024, 3:05 pm
Yossarian wrote:
February 20th, 2024, 2:35 pm
NVAggie wrote:
February 20th, 2024, 1:58 pm
How often do soccer games end in a 0-0 tie? How often do both teams pitchers carry a no-hitter through 8 innings? I suppose there is a difference.
I am aware of 1 game when both teams threw no- hitters. That happened in a game between the Cubs and Reds, in 1917. I am assuming Quackattck's wife was watching that game and was not thrilled by it. I don't know of any others that have gone into the eighth with both teams throwing no- hitters. Although - he didn't specify that it was an MLB game, so who knows?
I was exaggerating (it was probably 4 or 5 innings), but I had a college game in mind, not an MLB game. We went to a lot of Oregon baseball games when I was in school.
It was beyond exaggeration, it was ignorant. For someone with sports knowledge, they know that a no-hitter is a big deal. You have less than a 0.2% chance of seeing one pitcher complete a no-hitter in an MLB game. In the English Premier leagues, you have about a 7% chance of seeing a 0-0 tie. Your comparison was flawed, and you knew it.

My point in bringing up flopping is that it gets atrocious in the last 20-30 minutes of a 0-0 tie (or any tie) because the road team wants to secure the point of a road tie. In the 0-0 game I attended, the road team flopped all over the place for 30 minutes and ruined the whole experience. For the 1-0 RSL win, the flopping was less intense by the home team, but the presence of a goal scored and the ensuing celebration wasn't enough to capture my fanhood.

I'm glad you both get to enjoy watching something you like. My dislike of soccer has nothing to do with ignorance of the game or league. I have never liked the blatant flopping in soccer. It is annoying to me. That is the same reason I dumped the NBA long ago.
I could see how your own personal ignorance could lead to that conclusion. The best part of flopping in soccer is they don’t cut to a commercial break every time that happens. They just either call or don’t call a foul depending on the case put the ball down and it’s back tk the action. Tops 30 seconds. The flopping pretty much ends immediately as soon as the ref sees that a foul has been committed. So it’s only at most a 30 second pause in the nonstop action that you get for 45 minutes a half.



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Re: Sam

Post by columbusaggie » February 27th, 2024, 5:57 pm

I seriously do not understand the Cavs, Sam can’t get over 10 minutes anymore. Now all I’m hearing is why they aren’t playing well lately, seems easy for me to figure out.



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Re: Sam

Post by columbusaggie » February 27th, 2024, 5:57 pm

I seriously do not understand the Cavs, Sam can’t get over 10 minutes anymore. Now all I’m hearing is why they aren’t playing well lately, seems easy for me to figure out.
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Re: Sam

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » February 27th, 2024, 7:36 pm

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I seriously do not understand the Cavs, Sam can’t get over 10 minutes anymore. Now all I’m hearing is why they aren’t playing well lately, seems easy for me to figure out.
Yeah he got a dnp tonight. Pretty crazy to find no minutes for him after the run he has had. It was an amazing finish for the cavs with the strus buzzer beater I will say that. Meanwhile my jazz are losing to quin Snyder. :puke:



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Re: Sam

Post by GameFAQSAggie » February 27th, 2024, 7:47 pm

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February 27th, 2024, 5:57 pm
I seriously do not understand the Cavs, Sam can’t get over 10 minutes anymore. Now all I’m hearing is why they aren’t playing well lately, seems easy for me to figure out.
Do the Cavs go to Blake for advice on what personnel to play and not play.
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Re: Sam

Post by columbusaggie » February 27th, 2024, 8:02 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote:
February 27th, 2024, 7:47 pm
columbusaggie wrote:
February 27th, 2024, 5:57 pm
I seriously do not understand the Cavs, Sam can’t get over 10 minutes anymore. Now all I’m hearing is why they aren’t playing well lately, seems easy for me to figure out.
Do the Cavs go to Blake for advice on what personnel to play and not play.
I heard bickerstaff has a direct line!



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Re: Sam

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » February 28th, 2024, 9:19 pm

Crazy he got another dnp. His shooting alone should warrant minutes. He had a great 2 month run. If Cleveland doesn't appreciate him, hopefully he'll find another team that does.



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Re: Sam

Post by treesap32 » February 28th, 2024, 9:27 pm

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Crazy he got another dnp. His shooting alone should warrant minutes. He had a great 2 month run. If Cleveland doesn't appreciate him, hopefully he'll find another team that does.
They were the hottest team in the NBA when he was playing major minutes.



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Re: Sam

Post by MrBiggle » February 28th, 2024, 10:04 pm

Wasn’t there an injured player that was cleared to play? I believe that was the start of little to no minutes for Sam.


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Post by Elkaggie » February 28th, 2024, 10:12 pm

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Wasn’t there an injured player that was cleared to play? I believe that was the start of little to no minutes for Sam.
Yes, I think it was Darius Garland and one other. Both are healthy now.



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Re: Sam

Post by AgsRock » February 28th, 2024, 10:53 pm

Honestly, this is why the NBA sucks. If you pay Mitchell and Garland max money, then you have to play them 40 mins a night.

Bad contracts ruin the game. Also a lack of defense.
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Re: Sam

Post by Coloraggie » February 29th, 2024, 9:27 am

I perused a Cleveland Cavs fans site last night and there is a thread about Sam. Basically all the Cavs fans hate their head coach, half of them accuse him not playing white players, but all of them think he is an idiot. They all think he lucked into the portion of the season when he had to play Sam (and Dean Wade) and the Cavaliers went off on a long win streak, now that their "starters," Garland and Mobley are back they aren't able to space the floor as well and the team cohesion is off, the are now eeking out a few wins and losing ones that they were handily winning before. I'll say this, if Cleveland doesn't want to play Sam then with the tape he put out there this year there are plenty of teams that can use someone with his shooting for 15-20 minutes a night on a fairly low-cost deal.

It's not that Mitchell needs fewer minutes, though him getting a little rest might help them long term. It is that when Garland and Mobley came back they get minutes and guys like Corey Lavert are still playing the same minutes as before. Honestly, if you can't get Sam 10 minutes a night leave him on the bench, he's got good enough tape out there that it doesn't need to be ruined by never being able to get in a rhythm for 5 minutes a night.
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Re: Sam

Post by Roy McAvoy » February 29th, 2024, 9:31 am

It's clear for the Cavs they're better with Mitchell at PG & him dominating the ball and running the show. When Garland plays (who is good) he also needs the ball though and they have the right chemistry out there.

The funniest part about this is at the time, I guarantee you the Jazz would've taken Garland back over Markkanen in the Mitchell trade. Cleveland didn't want to trade it's budding star Garland, however. Now looking at it, Markkanen would be the perfect guy to have out there alongside Mitchell. Having him over Garland would've probably given the Cavs a good shot at a championship.



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Re: Sam

Post by Aggie84025 » February 29th, 2024, 10:12 am

Coloraggie wrote:
February 29th, 2024, 9:27 am
I perused a Cleveland Cavs fans site last night and there is a thread about Sam. Basically all the Cavs fans hate their head coach, half of them accuse him not playing white players, but all of them think he is an idiot. They all think he lucked into the portion of the season when he had to play Sam (and Dean Wade) and the Cavaliers went off on a long win streak, now that their "starters," Garland and Mobley are back they aren't able to space the floor as well and the team cohesion is off, the are now eeking out a few wins and losing ones that they were handily winning before. I'll say this, if Cleveland doesn't want to play Sam then with the tape he put out there this year there are plenty of teams that can use someone with his shooting for 15-20 minutes a night on a fairly low-cost deal.

It's not that Mitchell needs fewer minutes, though him getting a little rest might help them long term. It is that when Garland and Mobley came back they get minutes and guys like Corey Lavert are still playing the same minutes as before. Honestly, if you can't get Sam 10 minutes a night leave him on the bench, he's got good enough tape out there that it doesn't need to be ruined by never being able to get in a rhythm for 5 minutes a night.
Agreed, Sam did enough this year that he should get a look from other teams to sign him to a solid 2 year deal. Not sure what his contract status is with the CAVS after this year.



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Re: Sam

Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 3rd, 2024, 5:55 pm

Getting starters minutes tonight due to injuries. Started 3-4 from 3, including three in a row.

Hate watching the NBA, just watching Sam.
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Re: Sam

Post by Cuchelain » March 3rd, 2024, 6:01 pm

Now 4-5



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Post by Cuchelain » March 3rd, 2024, 6:01 pm

12 points in 11 minutes
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Post by Yossarian » March 3rd, 2024, 6:07 pm

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12 points in 11 minutes
And the highest +/- on the team. Can't they see Sam can change the game?


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Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 3rd, 2024, 6:13 pm

Yossarian wrote:
March 3rd, 2024, 6:07 pm
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12 points in 11 minutes
And the highest +/- on the team. Can't they see Sam can change the game?
Sam goes to a corner and his defender never leaves him while the dribbler goes to the basket one on one. Even without shooting the ball he's making a difference.



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Re: Sam

Post by Yossarian » March 3rd, 2024, 6:47 pm

Yossarian wrote:
March 3rd, 2024, 6:07 pm
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12 points in 11 minutes
And the highest +/- on the team. Can't they see Sam can change the game?
And the second half has been ..... not good.


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Re: Sam

Post by cval » March 3rd, 2024, 6:47 pm

He’s getting abused defensively right now.



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Re: Sam

Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 3rd, 2024, 6:51 pm

He's the only one back on defense...



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Re: Sam

Post by Yossarian » March 3rd, 2024, 7:03 pm

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He's the only one back on defense...
Shooting is heating back up. 6 for 11 from three, now. Team high 18 points. Time to pull him.


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Re: Sam

Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 3rd, 2024, 7:07 pm

Yossarian wrote:
March 3rd, 2024, 7:03 pm
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He's the only one back on defense...
Shooting is heating back up. 6 for 11 from three, now. Team high 18 points. Time to pull him.
Actually, 7-12 from three now, team high 21 points. When he is in the Cavs made their run.

Yeah, time to put him on the bench. :noidea:



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Post by Cuchelain » March 3rd, 2024, 7:21 pm

The commentator kept saying Sam was being targeted defensively but I didn’t see much that was his fault. On one play he was perfectly set and got run over by Josh Hart but the refs called a block when it was clearly a charge. A couple of other times he was the only one back on a fast break. Not much he could have done about that.
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Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 3rd, 2024, 7:28 pm

Ended up 7-13 from three and led the team with 21 points in only 29 minutes.

Thought it was obvious the team was better when he was on the floor. That said, I hate the NBA. It looks like an All-Star game. Every possession is very selfish.
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Re: Sam

Post by Yossarian » March 3rd, 2024, 8:19 pm

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March 3rd, 2024, 7:28 pm
Ended up 7-13 from three and led the team with 21 points in only 29 minutes.

Thought it was obvious the team was better when he was on the floor. That said, I hate the NBA. It looks like an All-Star game. Every possession is very selfish.
I just follow the play-by-play on the game log. That way I don't have to watch those games.
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Post by MrBiggle » March 3rd, 2024, 9:28 pm

I’ll watch Aggies play in the NBA, other than that I don’t waste my time.
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Re: Sam

Post by slcagg » March 3rd, 2024, 10:04 pm

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March 3rd, 2024, 7:28 pm
Ended up 7-13 from three and led the team with 21 points in only 29 minutes.

Thought it was obvious the team was better when he was on the floor. That said, I hate the NBA. It looks like an All-Star game. Every possession is very selfish.
Have you watched a recent all star game?



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Re: Sam

Post by Aggie-Man » March 3rd, 2024, 10:09 pm

MrBiggle wrote:
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I’ll watch Aggies play in the NBA, other than that I don’t waste my time.
Same!



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Re: Sam

Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 4th, 2024, 5:42 am

slcagg wrote:
March 3rd, 2024, 10:04 pm
FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 3rd, 2024, 7:28 pm
Ended up 7-13 from three and led the team with 21 points in only 29 minutes.

Thought it was obvious the team was better when he was on the floor. That said, I hate the NBA. It looks like an All-Star game. Every possession is very selfish.
Have you watched a recent all star game?
Not in thirty years or more.
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Re: Sam

Post by aggies22 » March 4th, 2024, 6:44 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 4th, 2024, 5:42 am
slcagg wrote:
March 3rd, 2024, 10:04 pm
FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 3rd, 2024, 7:28 pm
Ended up 7-13 from three and led the team with 21 points in only 29 minutes.

Thought it was obvious the team was better when he was on the floor. That said, I hate the NBA. It looks like an All-Star game. Every possession is very selfish.
Have you watched a recent all star game?
Not in thirty years or more.
I'm thinking I haven't watched an all-star weekend since the 90s. Which means I stopped watching just as I was starting at Utah State.
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Re: Sam

Post by FloridaAggie13 » March 4th, 2024, 8:04 am

aggies22 wrote:
March 4th, 2024, 6:44 am
FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 4th, 2024, 5:42 am
slcagg wrote:
March 3rd, 2024, 10:04 pm
FloridaAggie13 wrote:
March 3rd, 2024, 7:28 pm
Ended up 7-13 from three and led the team with 21 points in only 29 minutes.

Thought it was obvious the team was better when he was on the floor. That said, I hate the NBA. It looks like an All-Star game. Every possession is very selfish.
Have you watched a recent all star game?
Not in thirty years or more.
I'm thinking I haven't watched an all-star weekend since the 90s. Which means I stopped watching just as I was starting at Utah State.
The last time I paid attention to it was when Stockton and Malone split the MVP trophy, so...1992 or 1993? At that time I still watched the NBA a ton, but already couldn't stand the All Star festivities.
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Re: Sam

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 6th, 2024, 8:04 pm

Hopefully bickerstaff doesn't use tonight as an excuse not to play Merrill. Outside of Grayson allen, there isn't a guy in the league I'd rather be taking 3s than merrill



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