ASHWORTH scores 26 but......

spud · Post by **spud** » February 2nd, 2024, 9:22 pm

Creighton loses on their home court again. Should have stayed home my friend! How do they continue to keep such a high ranking?

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » February 2nd, 2024, 9:26 pm

spud wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:22 pm
Creighton loses on their home court again. Should have stayed home my friend! How do they continue to keep such a high ranking?

Money was good while it lasted. Time to get slotted into a desk job selling life insurance in Omaha now.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » February 2nd, 2024, 9:41 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:26 pm

spud wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:22 pm
Creighton loses on their home court again. Should have stayed home my friend! How do they continue to keep such a high ranking?
Money was good while it lasted. Time to get slotted into a desk job selling life insurance in Omaha now.

Mutual of Omaha?

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » February 2nd, 2024, 9:53 pm

We're still doing the "Ashworth should have stayed" thing when we're in the top-20 and he scores 26 points for the #13 team in the country?

He left a really good team for another really good team, and got a fat paycheck and a degree in the field he wants to go into out of it.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » February 2nd, 2024, 9:56 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:53 pm
We're still doing the "Ashworth should have stayed" thing when we're in the top-20 and he scores 26 points for the #13 team in the country?

He left a really good team for another really good team, and got a fat paycheck and a degree in the field he wants to go into out of it.

Good points. Additionally we upgraded in the process.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » February 2nd, 2024, 9:59 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:53 pm
We're still doing the "Ashworth should have stayed" thing when we're in the top-20 and he scores 26 points for the #13 team in the country?

He left a really good team for another really good team, and got a fat paycheck and a degree in the field he wants to go into out of it.

What degree is he getting? Just curious.

I hold no ill will toward Ashworth. I wish he would’ve stayed. He would’ve played a significant role this year. Even more I wish Shulga had stayed. But we are currently on track to have the greatest season in the modern Aggie basketball era. Enjoy the ride, and let’s think about donating more to the collective.

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » February 2nd, 2024, 10:04 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:59 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:53 pm
We're still doing the "Ashworth should have stayed" thing when we're in the top-20 and he scores 26 points for the #13 team in the country?

He left a really good team for another really good team, and got a fat paycheck and a degree in the field he wants to go into out of it.
What degree is he getting? Just curious.

I hold no ill will toward Ashworth. I wish he would’ve stayed. He would’ve played a significant role this year. Even more I wish Shulga had stayed. But we are currently on track to have the greatest season in the modern Aggie basketball era. Enjoy the ride, and let’s think about donating more to the collective.

Reportedly, he's going to Creighton's dental school. Obviously wasn't an option at Utah State.

And yes, I agree. We're having an unbelievable season and I'd rather have DBII than Ashworth.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » February 2nd, 2024, 10:08 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:41 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:26 pm

spud wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:22 pm
Creighton loses on their home court again. Should have stayed home my friend! How do they continue to keep such a high ranking?
Money was good while it lasted. Time to get slotted into a desk job selling life insurance in Omaha now.
Mutual of Omaha?

Starring Marlin Perkins

quirky · Post by **quirky** » February 2nd, 2024, 10:14 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:53 pm
We're still doing the "Ashworth should have stayed" thing when we're in the top-20 and he scores 26 points for the #13 team in the country?

He left a really good team for another really good team, and got a fat paycheck and a degree in the field he wants to go into out of it.

exactly. people just need to let it go, i think it looks pathetic at this point

he could've either transfered and made a couple hundred thousand and go to a bigger league with a coach that fits your playstyle, or he could've stayed, not made the money, stayed with a team where he currently had no teammates, and have to be with a coach that doesn't fit his playstyle at all

but on the downside, some people won't consider him an "aggie legend"

spud · Post by **spud** » February 2nd, 2024, 11:03 pm

I am not letting it go. I'm following this thing to the very end! I can't help myself.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » February 2nd, 2024, 11:09 pm

quirky wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 10:14 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:53 pm
We're still doing the "Ashworth should have stayed" thing when we're in the top-20 and he scores 26 points for the #13 team in the country?

He left a really good team for another really good team, and got a fat paycheck and a degree in the field he wants to go into out of it.
exactly. people just need to let it go, i think it looks pathetic at this point

he could've either transfered and made a couple hundred thousand and go to a bigger league with a coach that fits your playstyle, or he could've stayed, not made the money, stayed with a team where he currently had no teammates, and have to be with a coach that doesn't fit his playstyle at all

but on the downside, some people won't consider him an "aggie legend"

I have no ill will towards Steven. Things worked out best for both parties. Did he do enough to be considered an Aggie Legend? He was really good maybe I need to look at his numbers again.

BearLakeMonster · Post by **BearLakeMonster** » February 2nd, 2024, 11:14 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 10:08 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:41 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:26 pm

spud wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:22 pm
Creighton loses on their home court again. Should have stayed home my friend! How do they continue to keep such a high ranking?
Money was good while it lasted. Time to get slotted into a desk job selling life insurance in Omaha now.
Mutual of Omaha?
Starring Marlin Perkins

Not bad, but I think you meant this one:

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » February 3rd, 2024, 7:21 am

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 10:04 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:59 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:53 pm
We're still doing the "Ashworth should have stayed" thing when we're in the top-20 and he scores 26 points for the #13 team in the country?

He left a really good team for another really good team, and got a fat paycheck and a degree in the field he wants to go into out of it.
What degree is he getting? Just curious.

I hold no ill will toward Ashworth. I wish he would’ve stayed. He would’ve played a significant role this year. Even more I wish Shulga had stayed. But we are currently on track to have the greatest season in the modern Aggie basketball era. Enjoy the ride, and let’s think about donating more to the collective.
Reportedly, he's going to Creighton's dental school. Obviously wasn't an option at Utah State.

And yes, I agree. We're having an unbelievable season and I'd rather have DBII than Ashworth.

Like he’s a first year dental student this year?? If he’s swinging both dental school and high level D1 basketball, he’s either a genius or he doesn’t need to sleep this year. Honestly, he always seemed like an MBA type of guy to me. Shoulda grad transferred to Harvard for that.

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » February 3rd, 2024, 10:45 am

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 7:21 am

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 10:04 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:59 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:53 pm
We're still doing the "Ashworth should have stayed" thing when we're in the top-20 and he scores 26 points for the #13 team in the country?

He left a really good team for another really good team, and got a fat paycheck and a degree in the field he wants to go into out of it.
What degree is he getting? Just curious.

I hold no ill will toward Ashworth. I wish he would’ve stayed. He would’ve played a significant role this year. Even more I wish Shulga had stayed. But we are currently on track to have the greatest season in the modern Aggie basketball era. Enjoy the ride, and let’s think about donating more to the collective.
Reportedly, he's going to Creighton's dental school. Obviously wasn't an option at Utah State.

And yes, I agree. We're having an unbelievable season and I'd rather have DBII than Ashworth.

Like he’s a first year dental student this year?? If he’s swinging both dental school and high level D1 basketball, he’s either a genius or he doesn’t need to sleep this year. Honestly, he always seemed like an MBA type of guy to me. Shoulda grad transferred to Harvard for that.

I don't have any actual knowledge on that, that's just what I remember reading on this board. But I can't ever recall anybody posting false information on here before, so it must be true.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » February 3rd, 2024, 10:52 am

I'm baffled as to why we begrudge these guys for taking the money and running, especially when, as adults, we know just how difficult it is to earn money in the 'real world'.

Someone paid him $250k to play basketball on their court, wearing their jersey. Make the same offer to me at that age and my only question would be, "...what time do you want me there...?"

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » February 3rd, 2024, 11:01 am

I’m baffled why someone cares about what other posters care about and what they choose to post about.

The title was clear. If you don’t want to read another posters opinion, don’t click on a link that contains his name.

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Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » February 3rd, 2024, 11:18 am

I really could give a $hit less as far as what Ashworth did/does. He is a BJ. I just hope that we get the opportunity to play the BJs in the NCAA Tourney.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » February 3rd, 2024, 11:23 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 10:52 am
I'm baffled as to why we begrudge these guys for taking the money and running, especially when, as adults, we know just how difficult it is to earn money in the 'real world'.

Someone paid him $250k to play basketball on their court, wearing their jersey. Make the same offer to me at that age and my only question would me, "...what time do you want me there...?"

They guy is free to follow the money. I am free to think he made a mistake and be slightly amused by it.

The guy could have had his name in the rafters at the Spectrum, instead he will be largely forgotten in Logan and Omaha. Though evidently he might be remembered a bit longer in Logan than in Omaha...

I also find it amusing that he left to be part of a top program, and USU is just as good as the team he joined this year.

jprism · Post by **jprism** » February 3rd, 2024, 12:34 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 10:04 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:59 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:53 pm
We're still doing the "Ashworth should have stayed" thing when we're in the top-20 and he scores 26 points for the #13 team in the country?

He left a really good team for another really good team, and got a fat paycheck and a degree in the field he wants to go into out of it.
What degree is he getting? Just curious.

I hold no ill will toward Ashworth. I wish he would’ve stayed. He would’ve played a significant role this year. Even more I wish Shulga had stayed. But we are currently on track to have the greatest season in the modern Aggie basketball era. Enjoy the ride, and let’s think about donating more to the collective.
Reportedly, he's going to Creighton's dental school. Obviously wasn't an option at Utah State.

And yes, I agree. We're having an unbelievable season and I'd rather have DBII than Ashworth.

Like he’s a first year dental student this year?? If he’s swinging both dental school and high level D1 basketball, he’s either a genius or he doesn’t need to sleep this year. Honestly, he always seemed like an MBA type of guy to me. Shoulda grad transferred to Harvard for that.

I doubt he is doing dental school this year. He was in one of my business acumen classes last year that students take as a sophomore or junior. Unless he took a full year’s worth of summer classes last summer I don’t think he has his bachelors yet.

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Pacobag · Post by **Pacobag** » February 3rd, 2024, 12:44 pm

To each their own. I’m not confident Ashworth would have gotten his name in the rafters and he may not even care much about that. I’m guessing we wouldn’t have picked up Javon if SA chose to stay. What kind of numbers would SA put up with the other guys we have now? I think he would have made us better, but I disagree with those who think he would easily have been one of the top 10 USU players of all-time. I’m not bothered by a discussion about a former Aggie. Some of us are curious to hear how he is doing. This is a fan forum and it seems appropriate to discuss players and fandom. It does feel like a few fans may take it a little personal like they got dumped by SA and they are bitter and want him to fail. That’s their choice. I personally think it’s a waste of time to be upset or want someone to fail because they decided to do what they felt was best for them.

ghsaggie · Post by **ghsaggie** » February 3rd, 2024, 3:41 pm

jprism wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 12:34 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:
shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 10:04 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:59 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
February 2nd, 2024, 9:53 pm
We're still doing the "Ashworth should have stayed" thing when we're in the top-20 and he scores 26 points for the #13 team in the country?

He left a really good team for another really good team, and got a fat paycheck and a degree in the field he wants to go into out of it.
What degree is he getting? Just curious.

I hold no ill will toward Ashworth. I wish he would’ve stayed. He would’ve played a significant role this year. Even more I wish Shulga had stayed. But we are currently on track to have the greatest season in the modern Aggie basketball era. Enjoy the ride, and let’s think about donating more to the collective.
Reportedly, he's going to Creighton's dental school. Obviously wasn't an option at Utah State.

And yes, I agree. We're having an unbelievable season and I'd rather have DBII than Ashworth.

Like he’s a first year dental student this year?? If he’s swinging both dental school and high level D1 basketball, he’s either a genius or he doesn’t need to sleep this year. Honestly, he always seemed like an MBA type of guy to me. Shoulda grad transferred to Harvard for that.
I doubt he is doing dental school this year. He was in one of my business acumen classes last year that students take as a sophomore or junior. Unless he took a full year’s worth of summer classes last summer I don’t think he has his bachelors yet.

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He is 100% not in the dental school.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » February 3rd, 2024, 3:54 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 11:01 am
I’m baffled why someone cares about what other posters care about and what they choose to post about.

The title was clear. If you don’t want to read another posters opinion, don’t click on a link that contains his name.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sorry, I thought this was a chat board where we are free to weigh in with whatever thoughts are rolling around in our head.

I'll check with you next time before posting.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » February 3rd, 2024, 4:09 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 11:23 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 10:52 am
I'm baffled as to why we begrudge these guys for taking the money and running, especially when, as adults, we know just how difficult it is to earn money in the 'real world'.

Someone paid him $250k to play basketball on their court, wearing their jersey. Make the same offer to me at that age and my only question would me, "...what time do you want me there...?"
They guy is free to follow the money. I am free to think he made a mistake and be slightly amused by it.

The guy could have had his name in the rafters at the Spectrum, instead he will be largely forgotten in Logan and Omaha. Though evidently he might be remembered a bit longer in Logan than in Omaha...

I also find it amusing that he left to be part of a top program, and USU is just as good as the team he joined this year.

Fast forward 25 years and looking back, I'd take the $250k over the possibility of having my jersey hung in the rafters. $250k helps pay for homes, cars and kids educations. Having my jersey in the rafters twenty-five years later might get me a free sandwich.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » February 3rd, 2024, 4:12 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 11:23 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 10:52 am
I'm baffled as to why we begrudge these guys for taking the money and running, especially when, as adults, we know just how difficult it is to earn money in the 'real world'.

Someone paid him $250k to play basketball on their court, wearing their jersey. Make the same offer to me at that age and my only question would me, "...what time do you want me there...?"
They guy is free to follow the money. I am free to think he made a mistake and be slightly amused by it.

The guy could have had his name in the rafters at the Spectrum, instead he will be largely forgotten in Logan and Omaha. Though evidently he might be remembered a bit longer in Logan than in Omaha...

I also find it amusing that he left to be part of a top program, and USU is just as good as the team he joined this year.

Ah, yes. The recurring "legend," "name in the rafters," etc. spiel all you anti-capitalists go on about.

His basketball abilities had an economic value. Rather than pay what his market value was, we said he should stick around anyway. When he left because someone agreed to compensate him accordingly, we pout and assert that a token gesture should have kept him around.

He isn't Sam Merrill (whose name isn't in the rafters, as far as I'm aware), and he isn't Jaycee. He was awesome for us, but his name wouldn't have been in the rafters, and he wouldn't have become an Aggie legend. He'd have been largely forgotten besides happy reminiscence, akin to Chris Smith, Spencer Butterfield, and Brian Green (all of whom had better single season 3pt% than Ashworth: https://usustats.com/records/season/3fgpercentage). He'd have been largely forgotten anyway. At least this way he gets to be largely forgotten with a largely increased wallet.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » February 3rd, 2024, 4:23 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 4:12 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 11:23 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 10:52 am
I'm baffled as to why we begrudge these guys for taking the money and running, especially when, as adults, we know just how difficult it is to earn money in the 'real world'.

Someone paid him $250k to play basketball on their court, wearing their jersey. Make the same offer to me at that age and my only question would me, "...what time do you want me there...?"
They guy is free to follow the money. I am free to think he made a mistake and be slightly amused by it.

The guy could have had his name in the rafters at the Spectrum, instead he will be largely forgotten in Logan and Omaha. Though evidently he might be remembered a bit longer in Logan than in Omaha...

I also find it amusing that he left to be part of a top program, and USU is just as good as the team he joined this year.
Ah, yes. The recurring "legend," "name in the rafters," etc. spiel all you anti-capitalists go on about.

His basketball abilities had an economic value. Rather than pay what his market value was, we said he should stick around anyway. When he left because someone agreed to compensate him accordingly, we pout and assert that a token gesture should have kept him around.

He isn't Sam Merrill (whose name isn't in the rafters, as far as I'm aware), and he isn't Jaycee. He was awesome for us, but his name wouldn't have been in the rafters, and he wouldn't have become an Aggie legend. He'd have been largely forgotten besides happy reminiscence, akin to Chris Smith, Spencer Butterfield, and Brian Green (all of whom had better single season 3pt% than Ashworth: https://usustats.com/records/season/3fgpercentage). He'd have been largely forgotten anyway. At least this way he gets to be largely forgotten with a largely increased wallet.

Mods. I would like to report this as a personal attack...

That cuts deep. I don't think there is a more offensive thing you could have called me...

Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » February 3rd, 2024, 4:44 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 4:23 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 4:12 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 11:23 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 10:52 am
I'm baffled as to why we begrudge these guys for taking the money and running, especially when, as adults, we know just how difficult it is to earn money in the 'real world'.

Someone paid him $250k to play basketball on their court, wearing their jersey. Make the same offer to me at that age and my only question would me, "...what time do you want me there...?"
They guy is free to follow the money. I am free to think he made a mistake and be slightly amused by it.

The guy could have had his name in the rafters at the Spectrum, instead he will be largely forgotten in Logan and Omaha. Though evidently he might be remembered a bit longer in Logan than in Omaha...

I also find it amusing that he left to be part of a top program, and USU is just as good as the team he joined this year.
Ah, yes. The recurring "legend," "name in the rafters," etc. spiel all you anti-capitalists go on about.

His basketball abilities had an economic value. Rather than pay what his market value was, we said he should stick around anyway. When he left because someone agreed to compensate him accordingly, we pout and assert that a token gesture should have kept him around.

He isn't Sam Merrill (whose name isn't in the rafters, as far as I'm aware), and he isn't Jaycee. He was awesome for us, but his name wouldn't have been in the rafters, and he wouldn't have become an Aggie legend. He'd have been largely forgotten besides happy reminiscence, akin to Chris Smith, Spencer Butterfield, and Brian Green (all of whom had better single season 3pt% than Ashworth: https://usustats.com/records/season/3fgpercentage). He'd have been largely forgotten anyway. At least this way he gets to be largely forgotten with a largely increased wallet.
Mods. I would like to report this as a personal attack...

That cuts deep. I don't think there is a more offensive thing you could have called me...

You mean a good player, not an all time great, leveraged his playing career into a new career where he makes 500k a year and travels the world and hunts while an intern manages a few Mutual Funds? Rough life. Such a shame he couldn’t transfer to Omaha Nebraska for a cool MBA!

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » February 3rd, 2024, 4:44 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 4:23 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 4:12 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 11:23 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 10:52 am
I'm baffled as to why we begrudge these guys for taking the money and running, especially when, as adults, we know just how difficult it is to earn money in the 'real world'.

Someone paid him $250k to play basketball on their court, wearing their jersey. Make the same offer to me at that age and my only question would me, "...what time do you want me there...?"
They guy is free to follow the money. I am free to think he made a mistake and be slightly amused by it.

The guy could have had his name in the rafters at the Spectrum, instead he will be largely forgotten in Logan and Omaha. Though evidently he might be remembered a bit longer in Logan than in Omaha...

I also find it amusing that he left to be part of a top program, and USU is just as good as the team he joined this year.
Ah, yes. The recurring "legend," "name in the rafters," etc. spiel all you anti-capitalists go on about.

His basketball abilities had an economic value. Rather than pay what his market value was, we said he should stick around anyway. When he left because someone agreed to compensate him accordingly, we pout and assert that a token gesture should have kept him around.

He isn't Sam Merrill (whose name isn't in the rafters, as far as I'm aware), and he isn't Jaycee. He was awesome for us, but his name wouldn't have been in the rafters, and he wouldn't have become an Aggie legend. He'd have been largely forgotten besides happy reminiscence, akin to Chris Smith, Spencer Butterfield, and Brian Green (all of whom had better single season 3pt% than Ashworth: https://usustats.com/records/season/3fgpercentage). He'd have been largely forgotten anyway. At least this way he gets to be largely forgotten with a largely increased wallet.
Mods. I would like to report this as a personal attack...

That cuts deep. I don't think there is a more offensive thing you could have called me...

I recommend you recite 3 Hail Rockefellers while burning a Sacred Wallet of Cornelius Vanderbilt candle. That should be sufficient penance for your misstep.

JFWAggie · Post by **JFWAggie** » February 3rd, 2024, 5:48 pm

i hope that fake aggie loses every game

JFWAggie · Post by **JFWAggie** » February 3rd, 2024, 5:52 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 4:12 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 11:23 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 10:52 am
I'm baffled as to why we begrudge these guys for taking the money and running, especially when, as adults, we know just how difficult it is to earn money in the 'real world'.

Someone paid him $250k to play basketball on their court, wearing their jersey. Make the same offer to me at that age and my only question would me, "...what time do you want me there...?"
They guy is free to follow the money. I am free to think he made a mistake and be slightly amused by it.

The guy could have had his name in the rafters at the Spectrum, instead he will be largely forgotten in Logan and Omaha. Though evidently he might be remembered a bit longer in Logan than in Omaha...

I also find it amusing that he left to be part of a top program, and USU is just as good as the team he joined this year.
Ah, yes. The recurring "legend," "name in the rafters," etc. spiel all you anti-capitalists go on about.

His basketball abilities had an economic value. Rather than pay what his market value was, we said he should stick around anyway. When he left because someone agreed to compensate him accordingly, we pout and assert that a token gesture should have kept him around.

He isn't Sam Merrill (whose name isn't in the rafters, as far as I'm aware), and he isn't Jaycee. He was awesome for us, but his name wouldn't have been in the rafters, and he wouldn't have become an Aggie legend. He'd have been largely forgotten besides happy reminiscence, akin to Chris Smith, Spencer Butterfield, and Brian Green (all of whom had better single season 3pt% than Ashworth: https://usustats.com/records/season/3fgpercentage). He'd have been largely forgotten anyway. At least this way he gets to be largely forgotten with a largely increased wallet.

his name never would have been in the rafters he sucked (I can't express myself without swearing) his first two years.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » February 3rd, 2024, 7:01 pm

He had a decent shot at 2000 career points had he stayed, maybe he would have done it. But if you get 2000 points, your name gets put in the rafters.

Was he as good as Sam or Jaycee? Absolutely not. Could he have gotten to 2000 points? Yes he could have.(granted he would have had an extra year to do it.)

Pacobag · Post by **Pacobag** » February 3rd, 2024, 7:12 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 7:01 pm
He had a decent shot at 2000 career points had he stayed, maybe he would have done it. But if you get 2000 points, your name gets put in the rafters.

Was he as good as Sam or Jaycee? Absolutely not. Could he have gotten to 2000 points? Yes he could have.(granted he would have had an extra year to do it.)

I would never go so far as to call you an AC.

It’s all speculation but whose minutes do you think he would be taking and what do you think his scoring average would be on this year’s team? I don’t doubt he may have made an all-time top 10 Aggie stat list or two, but unless he hit a couple of game winners to get us in the sweet 16, I doubt he would have made my top 25 all-time Aggie great list.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » February 3rd, 2024, 7:14 pm

I really like Ashworth. After Rylan went down, he was our best ballhandler and was a fairly effective defender when not too overly outmatched physically.

However, Ashworth wasn't going to get 2,000 points. His best year, last year, when Odom gave him the green light to shoot whenever he wanted and from wherever he wanted, he totaled 567 points. Right now, he only has 1200 points. If he had stayed, he wouldn't be getting starters minutes. Ashworth is a shooter, not a scorer. Jaycee, Sam, for example, were scorers. They were going to get twenty points + almost every game because they weren't one trick ponies from the three-point line.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » February 3rd, 2024, 7:18 pm

Pacobag wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 7:12 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 7:01 pm
He had a decent shot at 2000 career points had he stayed, maybe he would have done it. But if you get 2000 points, your name gets put in the rafters.

Was he as good as Sam or Jaycee? Absolutely not. Could he have gotten to 2000 points? Yes he could have.(granted he would have had an extra year to do it.)
I would never go so far as to call you an AC.

It’s all speculation but whose minutes do you think he would be taking and what do you think his scoring average would be on this year’s team? I don’t doubt he may have made an all-time top 10 Aggie stat list or two, but unless he hit a couple of game winners to get us in the sweet 16, I doubt he would have made my top 25 all-time Aggie great list.

There are certainly better players than Ashworth that wont get their jersey retired. I would probably have Ashworth in the top 15 to 20 players since the stew Morrill era. That does not change the fact that he had a legit shot at 2000 points, and think if he got 2000 points he probably gets his jersey retired.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » February 3rd, 2024, 7:19 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
February 3rd, 2024, 7:14 pm
I really like Ashworth. After Rylan went down, he was our best ballhandler and was a fairly effective defender when not too overly outmatched physically.

However, Ashworth wasn't going to get 2,000 points. His best year, last year, when Odom gave him the green light to shoot whenever he wanted and from wherever he wanted, he totaled 567 points. Right now, he only has 1200 points. If he had stayed, he wouldn't be getting starters minutes. Ashworth is a shooter, not a scorer. Jaycee, Sam, for example, were scorers. They were going to get twenty points + almost every game because they weren't one trick ponies from the three-point line.

You don't think he could have gotten there in 2 years? Not saying he would have, but it certainly was a possibility.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » February 3rd, 2024, 7:32 pm

I don't think he could have made it to 2000 pts because he would have flapped his arms so much they would have fallen off.
Always kinda of bugged me because he never did that when someone else did something. Struck me as as "hey, look at me" deal. But that's just me.

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