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Who do we lose??
Joining the crowd that has accepted that Sprinkle is gone, who else leaves with him or more accurately who does he want to take with him? Here is my WAG:
Great-gone
Martinez-gone
Udaje-gone
Johnson- 60/40 he stays
Templin- 40-60 he stays
Mason- 50/50 (pipe dream?)
Washington incoming freshman-gone
Idaho incoming freshman-gone
Phelps- no idea (does DS want him?)
Grant no idea (does DS want him?)
Jackson Grant - gone, neither here or Washington
Sahko- 70/30 he stays, gone if DS wants him.
Jackson- 80/20 stays unless DS wants him.
Burris- 80/20 stays unless DS wants him
Cox- gone
Barnes- stays
Where am I confused???
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Great-gone
Martinez-gone
Udaje-gone
Johnson- 60/40 he stays
Templin- 40-60 he stays
Mason- 50/50 (pipe dream?)
Washington incoming freshman-gone
Idaho incoming freshman-gone
Phelps- no idea (does DS want him?)
Grant no idea (does DS want him?)
Jackson Grant - gone, neither here or Washington
Sahko- 70/30 he stays, gone if DS wants him.
Jackson- 80/20 stays unless DS wants him.
Burris- 80/20 stays unless DS wants him
Cox- gone
Barnes- stays
Where am I confused???
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Re: Who do we lose??
Ya say sprinkle leaves. Our new coach is going to have to do something similar that danny did last year.
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Re: Who do we lose??
Again, everyone is soo fu*king pessimistic. Chill out! Even IF Sprinkle leave there's no guarantee our best guys will leave.
Great is going to declare for the draft, get feedback and return to USU. Martinez isn't going to go to a fourth school. Sprinkle doesn't utilize Johnson or Templin enough for them to be loyal. Plus Johnson apparently loves it here as does Falslev.
Udej and the pg from Oregon is likely gone. Wynot - who knows. The new coach needs to re recruit him HARD! He could be special.
Great is going to declare for the draft, get feedback and return to USU. Martinez isn't going to go to a fourth school. Sprinkle doesn't utilize Johnson or Templin enough for them to be loyal. Plus Johnson apparently loves it here as does Falslev.
Udej and the pg from Oregon is likely gone. Wynot - who knows. The new coach needs to re recruit him HARD! He could be special.
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Re: Who do we lose??
I thought I was being optimistic putting Mason at 50/50!!OrangeCountyAggie wrote:Again, everyone is soo fu*king pessimistic. Chill out!
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Re: Who do we lose??
Osobor, Johnson, Uduje, and Akbonpolo are gone. We have a chance at keeping the rest if we want them. 50/50 on Templin. Probably gone too.
Mason may stay if his dad gets involved.
Mason may stay if his dad gets involved.
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Re: Who do we lose??
I've been watching the Walking Dead lately. The NIL in college sports reminds me of the college sports world when the zombies start taking over.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:33 pmAgain, everyone is soo fu*king pessimistic. Chill out! Even IF Sprinkle leave there's no guarantee our best guys will leave.
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Re: Who do we lose??
The incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
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Re: Who do we lose??
I forgot about Martinez, but you should consider that Templin and Johnson would leave. A 7 footer like Johnson, just a sophomore, that can shoot the three is worth a hell of a lot.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
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Re: Who do we lose??
What about the state of college basketball these days (,unlimited transfers, NIL, money being thrown around, the coaching carousel, etc.) makes you optimistic that a school like USU can retain top talent and build on a successful team year after year? I think most people see the state of college sports for what it is - a bunch of mercenaries looking for playing time and a payday. If they don't get it in year one and don't see an primitive for the following year, they will look elsewhere. How many of the players on USUs team could even tell you what town the school is located in before they were recruited here? They don't care about USU, they just found a place to play. When they are done, they will move on and not give the school a second thought - especially those that will play for 2 or 3 or even 4 schools before they are done.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:33 pmAgain, everyone is soo fu*king pessimistic. Chill out! Even IF Sprinkle leave there's no guarantee our best guys will leave.
Great is going to declare for the draft, get feedback and return to USU. Martinez isn't going to go to a fourth school. Sprinkle doesn't utilize Johnson or Templin enough for them to be loyal. Plus Johnson apparently loves it here as does Falslev.
Udej and the pg from Oregon is likely gone. Wynot - who knows. The new coach needs to re recruit him HARD! He could be special.
It is going to be a very rare thing to have a player stick at one location fur 4 years unless he has some strong attachment to the school and/or, isn't good enough to get a better offer and doesn't get recruited over.
This is the reality of college sports today. That's why people are pessimistic, or better said, realistic. USU will be in a constant state of rebuilding from here on.
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Re: Who do we lose??
Johnson came to USU independent of Sprinkle, and is from Utah. Lots of reasons for him to stick around at leastAggieFBObsession wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:44 pmI forgot about Martinez, but you should consider that Templin and Johnson would leave. A 7 footer like Johnson, just a sophomore, that can shoot the three is worth a hell of a lot.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
If he came here for more playtime I’m not sure it’s a great idea to go to the Big 10
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Re: Who do we lose??
Does Johnson end up at BYU or Utah?AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:44 pmI forgot about Martinez, but you should consider that Templin and Johnson would leave. A 7 footer like Johnson, just a sophomore, that can shoot the three is worth a hell of a lot.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
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Re: Who do we lose??
Contrary to doom sayers here, Sprinkle stays. UW is also going after Rice and Alford. IMHO he would not be smart to go to UW. Why: conference instability, excessive travel, leaving a very stable conference, very major increase in media pressure., he would have most of a good team returning. He also got a major increase in pay, with more coming.
I look for him to stay at least until a better job than that opens in a year or 2.
I look for him to stay at least until a better job than that opens in a year or 2.
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Re: Who do we lose??
Could be YBU, but I think he follows Sprinkle.Yossarian wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:55 pmDoes Johnson end up at BYU or Utah?AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:44 pmI forgot about Martinez, but you should consider that Templin and Johnson would leave. A 7 footer like Johnson, just a sophomore, that can shoot the three is worth a hell of a lot.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
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Re: Who do we lose??
Of the current players I think Sprinkle would only take Ian, Mason and Great but the others could end up elsewhere depending on who the new coach is. Does Ian wanna go to his 4th school? Does Mason wanna be like Ike and be the hometown legend? Johnsons stays unless the new coach doesn't want him.
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Re: Who do we lose??
I would say Great gone, Martinez 50/50 pending on Andy Hill. Mason, Johnson, Udeje all stay.
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Re: Who do we lose??
Seems like there is a possibility that Andy Hill sticks around as the head guy if Sprinkle does leave. In that case I got to imagine we keep a decent group of guys, including Ian, which would be huge.
Not saying that Hill will or should be the guy but that he MIGHT. Also certainly not saying that we should hire Hill for the purpose of keeping guys around. (If Hill is the best guy than hire him, and if guys stick around for him that would be a nice benefit)
Not saying that Hill will or should be the guy but that he MIGHT. Also certainly not saying that we should hire Hill for the purpose of keeping guys around. (If Hill is the best guy than hire him, and if guys stick around for him that would be a nice benefit)
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Re: Who do we lose??
The nature of the game has changed since the NIL has started. People will stay only if we pay them enough. There is no such thing as school pride anymore.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:33 pmAgain, everyone is soo fu*king pessimistic. Chill out! Even IF Sprinkle leave there's no guarantee our best guys will leave.
Great is going to declare for the draft, get feedback and return to USU. Martinez isn't going to go to a fourth school. Sprinkle doesn't utilize Johnson or Templin enough for them to be loyal. Plus Johnson apparently loves it here as does Falslev.
Udej and the pg from Oregon is likely gone. Wynot - who knows. The new coach needs to re recruit him HARD! He could be special.
Last year the players stated often how close they were as a team during the season and they all left. This isn’t pessimism, it’s realism.
I don’t expect any of them to come back.
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Re: Who do we lose??
Agreed but outside of Great, I don't see a lot of our guys making big NIL money. Mason maybe but he is in a unique position to make more than anyone else staying home.Dwigt wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 4:05 pmThe nature of the game has changed since the NIL has started. People will stay only if we pay them enough. There is no such thing as school pride anymore.OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:33 pmAgain, everyone is soo fu*king pessimistic. Chill out! Even IF Sprinkle leave there's no guarantee our best guys will leave.
Great is going to declare for the draft, get feedback and return to USU. Martinez isn't going to go to a fourth school. Sprinkle doesn't utilize Johnson or Templin enough for them to be loyal. Plus Johnson apparently loves it here as does Falslev.
Udej and the pg from Oregon is likely gone. Wynot - who knows. The new coach needs to re recruit him HARD! He could be special.
Last year the players stated often how close they were as a team during the season and they all left. This isn’t pessimism, it’s realism.
I don’t expect any of them to come back.
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Re: Who do we lose??
I don’t think anyone has to sit any longer when transferring.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
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Re: Who do we lose??
It’s a little different than a transfer though.Intermeddler wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 4:56 pmI don’t think anyone has to sit any longer when transferring.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
What’s the point of signing an NLI? Wouldn’t they become meaningless?
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Re: Who do we lose??
Even if you are correct MJA, someone will take it to court and the NCAA will throw their hands up and say "Whatever".MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 5:00 pmIt’s a little different than a transfer though.Intermeddler wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 4:56 pmI don’t think anyone has to sit any longer when transferring.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
What’s the point of signing an NLI? Wouldn’t they become meaningless?
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Re: Who do we lose??
Sounded like Bosie fans were saying his position already has a lot of depth and they would rather use the scholarship elsewhere.
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I didn't think Danny was going to leave. But the fact that they put a massive extension in front of him and he hasn't signed speaks louder than anything else. I've accepted that he's gone.
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Re: Who do we lose??
I have no idea what he is doing but why sign it before the season is over. They aren't going to take it off the table. No reason to sign now.
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Re: Who do we lose??
Why did SDSU’s Durtcher sign?
It provides an infusion of energy into the program.
Re: Who do we lose??
To prove to your team that you're invested. That's why it was offered to him before the season is over. Want to put the Washington rumors to bed and quiet the noise? Sign on the dotted line.
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Re: Who do we lose??
Because Dutcher is going to retire there and has no plans to move up.ChowderAggie wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 6:06 pmWhy did SDSU’s Durtcher sign?
It provides an infusion of energy into the program.
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Re: Who do we lose??
Then we make a sweet 16 run and Michigan overs him 25 million and then what. Most ambitious people like as many options as possible.shoresy wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 6:27 pmTo prove to your team that you're invested. That's why it was offered to him before the season is over. Want to put the Washington rumors to bed and quiet the noise? Sign on the dotted line.
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Re: Who do we lose??
They already are really. The ncaa gave up on fighting sitting out for a second transfer. As long as you can enter the portal you can leave.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 5:00 pmIt’s a little different than a transfer though.Intermeddler wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 4:56 pmI don’t think anyone has to sit any longer when transferring.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
What’s the point of signing an NLI? Wouldn’t they become meaningless?
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Re: Who do we lose??
Maybe players will go through a few different schools each year. If they don't like the way things are going in January at Bum FK U., they transfer over to its biggest competitor who has a line on a three seed in March.Bank Shot wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 5:06 pmEven if you are correct MJA, someone will take it to court and the NCAA will throw their hands up and say "Whatever".MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 5:00 pmIt’s a little different than a transfer though.Intermeddler wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 4:56 pmI don’t think anyone has to sit any longer when transferring.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
What’s the point of signing an NLI? Wouldn’t they become meaningless?
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Re: Who do we lose??
That's true but he also went to Oregon and hated it and wanted to get away from there. I think he stays. I think Mason would stay at least I hope he would.AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:44 pmI forgot about Martinez, but you should consider that Templin and Johnson would leave. A 7 footer like Johnson, just a sophomore, that can shoot the three is worth a hell of a lot.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez
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Re: Who do we lose??
What's different from transferring versus signing an NLI and having to stay?MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 2:42 pmThe incoming freshman would have to sit out a year not on scholarship if they go somewhere else right? Similar to why Phelps, Templin, etc just stayed and came here?
I think the only guys Sprinkle would take to Washington are Osobor, Max, Uduje, and Martinez