I hope Calhoun follows Blake’s example and refuses to play the transfer portal game. If you enter, we need to move on replacing you. The longer we wait on players to decide the less quality options are out there to fill their void.

When he got here didn’t Blake actively try to bring back guys who were in the portal? Wasn’t that the case with Thompkins?

I certainly would not hold a scholarship for a player and actively recruit his backfill but if after a while the player comes back and wants to return assuming there is still as spot for him i would not be opposed to bringing them back.

Hoot wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:42 pm

When he got here didn’t Blake actively try to bring back guys who were in the portal? Wasn’t that the case with Thompkins?

The first year yes he did. DT was the biggest recruit for Blake

Hoot wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:42 pm

When he got here didn’t Blake actively try to bring back guys who were in the portal? Wasn’t that the case with Thompkins?

Different. They were in the portal already when he was hired. Osobor and Ian just heard Calhoun’s pitch and said “no thanks”.

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:46 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:42 pm

When he got here didn’t Blake actively try to bring back guys who were in the portal? Wasn’t that the case with Thompkins?

Different. They were in the portal already when he was hired. Osobor and Ian just heard Calhoun’s pitch and said “no thanks”.

Not really Calhoun's pitch, but, the NIL collective's pitch.

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:42 pm

I certainly would not hold a scholarship for a player and actively recruit his backfill but if after a while the player comes back and wants to return assuming there is still as spot for him i would not be opposed to bringing them back.

You’re asking for this to happen yearly even if we get the NIL built up.

Transfer Portal = Player Auction. Who's the highest bidder now? Big NILs will always get the pick of the litter, and we'll rebuild with what is left over. No offense to the leftovers. We all saw what we did with them last year.

Countdown to the portal closing in 27 days, and I guess we'll see...

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:46 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:42 pm

I certainly would not hold a scholarship for a player and actively recruit his backfill but if after a while the player comes back and wants to return assuming there is still as spot for him i would not be opposed to bringing them back.

You’re asking for this to happen yearly even if we get the NIL built up.

Oh for sure it will be the same each year. Good players we have will likely bolt for larger NIL deals. It sucks but it is reality.

It's one thing with a new coach, it's understandable but if your guys are doing it when there is stability in the program, I'd say goodbye.

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:46 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:42 pm

When he got here didn’t Blake actively try to bring back guys who were in the portal? Wasn’t that the case with Thompkins?

Different. They were in the portal already when he was hired. Osobor and Ian just heard Calhoun’s pitch and said “no thanks”.

In the other thread it was noted that Great put his name in the portal on Monday but it takes 2 days to show up in the actual portal. It sounds like he was already had his name in their before he had the one on one with Calhoun.

I'd even be OK if a player was given a free transfer if the coach leaves/retires/fired at the end of the season, otherwise, they got one shot and then have to sit out a year for a second transfer. I wouldn't necessarily love that but it isn't fair to have a coach recruit a player and then the coach gets to leave anytime he wants with no penalty but the player has to stay.

ryguy417 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:52 pm

Transfer Portal = Player Auction. Who's the highest bidder now? Big NILs will always get the pick of the litter, and we'll rebuild with what is left over. No offense to the leftovers. We all saw what we did with them last year.

Countdown to the portal closing in 27 days, and I guess we'll see...

Exactly. I'm glad we have a coach who has had transfer portal success.

Players are temporary labor. They work on our house, but they'll never care about the house as much as we do. If we can't afford their skills on the open market, we'll have to get cheaper labor or unproven guys

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:40 pm

I hope Calhoun follows Blake’s example and refuses to play the transfer portal game. If you enter, we need to move on replacing you. The longer we wait on players to decide the less quality options are out there to fill their void.

I totally agree with this! If a player enters the transfer portal...then you're gone, no coming back. By entering the portal, the player is essentially saying, "I think I can do better than you". It's a slap in the face and they should not be welcomed back.

I 100% agree

Matt Painter's words about going for the money and being miserable just keep rolling around my head. There's something about knowing you've got a good thing while you got it. I know I could make more by moving away from Twin Falls and working for a specialist group but I've found a level of comfort and confidence working with migrant workers. I think Osobor is in for a dose of P5 reality.

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 3:01 pm

Matt Painter's words about going for the money and being miserable just keep rolling around my head. There's something about knowing you've got a good thing while you got it. I know I could make more by moving away from Twin Falls and working for a specialist group but I've found a level of comfort and confidence working with migrant workers. I think Osobor is in for a dose of P5 reality.

The difference is that when Great moves away from Logan it is extremely temporary (like nine or ten months). Nine or ten months of misery while working a temporary part-time seasonal job where your employer pays for your college, housing, food, athletic trainer, etc. and you earn hundreds of thousands of dollars more, in a short season, is ABSOLUTELY worth it, and how miserable can it really be? Absolute worst-case scenario is no playing time and no post season tourney. What are the chances that a move ends up being a worst-case scenario for Osobor?

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 4:09 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 3:01 pm

Matt Painter's words about going for the money and being miserable just keep rolling around my head. There's something about knowing you've got a good thing while you got it. I know I could make more by moving away from Twin Falls and working for a specialist group but I've found a level of comfort and confidence working with migrant workers. I think Osobor is in for a dose of P5 reality.

The difference is that when Great moves away from Logan it is extremely temporary (like nine or ten months). Nine or ten months of misery while working a temporary part-time seasonal job where your employer pays for your college, housing, food, athletic trainer, etc. and you earn hundreds of thousands of dollars more in a short season is ABSOLUTELY worth it, and how miserable can it really be? Absolute worst-case scenario is no playing time and no post season tourney. What are the chances that a move ends up being a worst-case scenario for Osobor?

Worst case he goes to a program that doesn't utilize his skill set they way he was used at USU and his draft stock tanks, causing him to lose out on significant future earnings.

That might be USUs only appeal, take $300K less, stay at USU, win a sh*t ton of games and we'll get you drafted next year. Or go to a different school make more but you won't get as many touches and the offense wont run through you and maybe not win as much. Then you'll be fighting for a g-leauge contract.

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 4:09 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 3:01 pm

Matt Painter's words about going for the money and being miserable just keep rolling around my head. There's something about knowing you've got a good thing while you got it. I know I could make more by moving away from Twin Falls and working for a specialist group but I've found a level of comfort and confidence working with migrant workers. I think Osobor is in for a dose of P5 reality.

The difference is that when Great moves away from Logan it is extremely temporary (like nine or ten months). Nine or ten months of misery while working a temporary part-time seasonal job where your employer pays for your college, housing, food, athletic trainer, etc. and you earn hundreds of thousands of dollars more, in a short season, is ABSOLUTELY worth it, and how miserable can it really be? Absolute worst-case scenario is no playing time and no post season tourney. What are the chances that a move ends up being a worst-case scenario for Osobor?

It's more of an opportunity cost. Does having friends, a gf, tradition, enjoying the college experience. I know we've decided that greed and money is all that matters but yet we are all spending all day arguing over a kids game where we went to school 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. I doubt we would have this connection if we went to 4 schools.

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 4:18 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 4:09 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 3:01 pm

Matt Painter's words about going for the money and being miserable just keep rolling around my head. There's something about knowing you've got a good thing while you got it. I know I could make more by moving away from Twin Falls and working for a specialist group but I've found a level of comfort and confidence working with migrant workers. I think Osobor is in for a dose of P5 reality.

The difference is that when Great moves away from Logan it is extremely temporary (like nine or ten months). Nine or ten months of misery while working a temporary part-time seasonal job where your employer pays for your college, housing, food, athletic trainer, etc. and you earn hundreds of thousands of dollars more in a short season is ABSOLUTELY worth it, and how miserable can it really be? Absolute worst-case scenario is no playing time and no post season tourney. What are the chances that a move ends up being a worst-case scenario for Osobor?

Worst case he goes to a program that doesn't utilize his skill set they way he was used at USU and his draft stock tanks, causing him to lose out on significant future earnings.

That might be USUs only appeal, take $300K less, stay at USU, win a sh*t ton of games and we'll get you drafted next year. Or go to a different school make more but you won't get as many touches and the offense wont run through you and maybe not win as much. Then you'll be fighting for a g-leauge contract.

Do you think Graham Ike made a good choice leaving Wyoming?

AggieMeister wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 2:31 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:40 pm

I hope Calhoun follows Blake’s example and refuses to play the transfer portal game. If you enter, we need to move on replacing you. The longer we wait on players to decide the less quality options are out there to fill their void.

I totally agree with this! If a player enters the transfer portal...then you're gone, no coming back. By entering the portal, the player is essentially saying, "I think I can do better than you". It's a slap in the face and they should not be welcomed back.

Come on its not a slap in the face. Its players trying to get their market value in a screwed up system. Either we play the game the way its set up including allowing players to test the market or we dissolve the collective and accept the bottom of the MWC or the Big Sky. I honestly wouldn't be opposed to the latter but the game is determined by those who donate and deservedly so, its their team. But don't act like the player is personally affronting anyone...his NIL deal is up and its just strictly business and a bidding war. If he's worth outbidding the other competition then the boosters funding the collective should pay him to come back. If not they will use the money for a better value.

Hoot wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:42 pm

When he got here didn’t Blake actively try to bring back guys who were in the portal? Wasn’t that the case with Thompkins?

He did. He brought back Deven Thompkins, and Cash Gilliam.

aggies22 wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2024, 9:28 am

Hoot wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:42 pm

When he got here didn’t Blake actively try to bring back guys who were in the portal? Wasn’t that the case with Thompkins?

He did. He brought back Deven Thompkins, and Cash Gilliam.

Didn’t they enter the portal before Blake got the job?

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2024, 9:51 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2024, 9:28 am

Hoot wrote: ↑

April 3rd, 2024, 1:42 pm

When he got here didn’t Blake actively try to bring back guys who were in the portal? Wasn’t that the case with Thompkins?

He did. He brought back Deven Thompkins, and Cash Gilliam.

Didn’t they enter the portal before Blake got the job?

Correct. That's why I said, "he did". He brought back Cash and DT and tried to bring back several others such as Heneli Bloomfield, Troy Lefeged, Jaylen Warren, and Eric Munoz.