Pope to Kentucky

The Old Bull · Post by **The Old Bull** » April 12th, 2024, 9:39 am

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This is so far the funniest thing I have seen related to this.

gomretat · Post by **gomretat** » April 12th, 2024, 9:48 am

Dwigt wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 11:53 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 11:35 pm
There is zero chance they can afford Madsen's buyout. Maybe had he not signed an extension after the season, but no way they can do it now.

Scotty suggested Barrett Peery. If I were to guess, I'd guess he's the guy. Seems like the best of all the options I've heard.
I know a donor there that could cover that buyout without batting an eye.

If BYU wants Madsen and Madsen wants BYU there is more than enough money from BYU donors to make it happen. If Madsen stays at Cal it wont be because of the contract.

bigblue32 · Post by **bigblue32** » April 12th, 2024, 9:49 am

gomretat wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 9:48 am

Dwigt wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 11:53 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 11:35 pm
There is zero chance they can afford Madsen's buyout. Maybe had he not signed an extension after the season, but no way they can do it now.

Scotty suggested Barrett Peery. If I were to guess, I'd guess he's the guy. Seems like the best of all the options I've heard.
I know a donor there that could cover that buyout without batting an eye.
If BYU wants Madsen and Madsen wants BYU there is more than enough money from BYU donors to make it happen. If Madsen stays at Cal it wont be because of the contract.

He’s not going to BYU.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » April 12th, 2024, 9:53 am

With Madsen out. All their top canidates are guys we would not even pick up the phone for. Burgess is the best option and at this point of his career might be considered for openings at WAC or big sky schools.

Crazy.

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » April 12th, 2024, 9:55 am

OKAggie wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 9:31 am
Where's Alex Jensen these days? Is he card-carrying?

As far as I know, yes. He would qualify for BYU in that regard. He's an assistant with the Mavericks right now and has interviewed more than once for an NBA head coach position. I expect he'll get an NBA head coach job at some point and doubt he jeopardizes that for the BYU job.

BasketballAgg · Post by **BasketballAgg** » April 12th, 2024, 9:58 am

Will Hardy to BYU.

gomretat · Post by **gomretat** » April 12th, 2024, 9:58 am

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 9:53 am
With Madsen out. All their top canidates are guys we would not even pick up the phone for. Burgess is the best option and at this point of his career might be considered for openings at WAC or big sky schools.

Crazy.

If I were Burgess I would go to Kentucky with Pope

FeartheFro · Post by **FeartheFro** » April 12th, 2024, 10:01 am

The Old Bull wrote:
SLB wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 10:58 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 10:56 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 8:41 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 8:40 pm
After Mark Madsen, the LDS coaching pool is as shallow as a kiddie pool.

They might be screwed with their limitations.
Todd Simon would make sense for them.
Todd Simon isn't LDS.
Why so serious
The "has to be LDS thing" isn't a mandate... its been tradition but there is no hard fast rule at byu that head coaches must be LDS. For church employees you have to be a card carrying member... but byu employees aren't church employees. I imagine the tradition will be going away soon... maybe not for this cycle, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do away with this and the HC soon.

Mandate or not, if it has NEVER happened before that seems to me to be a very clear indication of what BYU is going to do.

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The Old Bull · Post by **The Old Bull** » April 12th, 2024, 10:07 am

thrashsoundly wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 9:24 am

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 11:35 pm
There is zero chance they can afford Madsen's buyout. Maybe had he not signed an extension after the season, but no way they can do it now.

Scotty suggested Barrett Peery. If I were to guess, I'd guess he's the guy. Seems like the best of all the options I've heard.
I think there are well over a billion reasons that they can find the cash if they really want to.

From the numbers I have seen its over 200 billion... and that was years ago.

bigblue32 · Post by **bigblue32** » April 12th, 2024, 10:09 am

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:01 am

The Old Bull wrote:
SLB wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 10:58 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 10:56 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 8:41 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 8:40 pm
After Mark Madsen, the LDS coaching pool is as shallow as a kiddie pool.

They might be screwed with their limitations.
Todd Simon would make sense for them.
Todd Simon isn't LDS.
Why so serious
The "has to be LDS thing" isn't a mandate... its been tradition but there is no hard fast rule at byu that head coaches must be LDS. For church employees you have to be a card carrying member... but byu employees aren't church employees. I imagine the tradition will be going away soon... maybe not for this cycle, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do away with this and the HC soon.
Mandate or not, if it has NEVER happened before that seems to me to be a very clear indication of what BYU is going to do.

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I’d wager they become sport-less like BYU-I before they change their mind about something like that

gomretat · Post by **gomretat** » April 12th, 2024, 10:12 am

bigblue32 wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 9:49 am

gomretat wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 9:48 am

Dwigt wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 11:53 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 11:35 pm
There is zero chance they can afford Madsen's buyout. Maybe had he not signed an extension after the season, but no way they can do it now.

Scotty suggested Barrett Peery. If I were to guess, I'd guess he's the guy. Seems like the best of all the options I've heard.
I know a donor there that could cover that buyout without batting an eye.
If BYU wants Madsen and Madsen wants BYU there is more than enough money from BYU donors to make it happen. If Madsen stays at Cal it wont be because of the contract.
He’s not going to BYU.

It certainly appears that way but it is not because of money.

The Old Bull · Post by **The Old Bull** » April 12th, 2024, 10:15 am

bigblue32 wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:09 am

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:01 am

The Old Bull wrote:
SLB wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 10:58 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 10:56 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 8:41 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 8:40 pm
After Mark Madsen, the LDS coaching pool is as shallow as a kiddie pool.

They might be screwed with their limitations.
Todd Simon would make sense for them.
Todd Simon isn't LDS.
Why so serious
The "has to be LDS thing" isn't a mandate... its been tradition but there is no hard fast rule at byu that head coaches must be LDS. For church employees you have to be a card carrying member... but byu employees aren't church employees. I imagine the tradition will be going away soon... maybe not for this cycle, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do away with this and the HC soon.
Mandate or not, if it has NEVER happened before that seems to me to be a very clear indication of what BYU is going to do.

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I’d wager they become sport-less like BYU-I before they change their mind about something like that

Fair enough... just my opinion. So far I have been pretty wrong about how many of our players would stick around.

I just think if they got in a spot where there we no good candidates that qualified for the job they would overlook the tradition and hire a qualified coach.

Out of curiosity, how big of a wager are we talking about?

Post by **aggies22** » April 12th, 2024, 10:21 am

The Old Bull wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 9:19 am

SLB wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 10:58 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 10:56 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 8:41 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 8:40 pm
After Mark Madsen, the LDS coaching pool is as shallow as a kiddie pool.

They might be screwed with their limitations.
Todd Simon would make sense for them.
Todd Simon isn't LDS.
Why so serious
The "has to be LDS thing" isn't a mandate... its been tradition but there is no hard fast rule at byu that head coaches must be LDS. For church employees you have to be a card carrying member... but byu employees aren't church employees. I imagine the tradition will be going away soon... maybe not for this cycle, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do away with this and the HC soon.

I'm not LDS, my apologies my Aggie brother. I was always under the impression that it was a rule/mandate whatever you want to call it.

thrashsoundly · Post by **thrashsoundly** » April 12th, 2024, 10:25 am

The Old Bull wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:07 am

thrashsoundly wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 9:24 am

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 11:35 pm
There is zero chance they can afford Madsen's buyout. Maybe had he not signed an extension after the season, but no way they can do it now.

Scotty suggested Barrett Peery. If I were to guess, I'd guess he's the guy. Seems like the best of all the options I've heard.
I think there are well over a billion reasons that they can find the cash if they really want to.
From the numbers I have seen its over 200 billion... and that was years ago.

You're right, I meant to say 100 billion, but I Austin Powers'd the statement.

Post by **aggies22** » April 12th, 2024, 10:26 am

OKAggie wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 9:31 am
Where's Alex Jensen these days? Is he card-carrying?

I saw him at Garth Brooks a couple of summers ago does that count?

bigblue32 · Post by **bigblue32** » April 12th, 2024, 10:39 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:21 am

The Old Bull wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 9:19 am

SLB wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 10:58 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 10:56 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 8:41 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2024, 8:40 pm
After Mark Madsen, the LDS coaching pool is as shallow as a kiddie pool.

They might be screwed with their limitations.
Todd Simon would make sense for them.
Todd Simon isn't LDS.
Why so serious
The "has to be LDS thing" isn't a mandate... its been tradition but there is no hard fast rule at byu that head coaches must be LDS. For church employees you have to be a card carrying member... but byu employees aren't church employees. I imagine the tradition will be going away soon... maybe not for this cycle, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do away with this and the HC soon.
I'm not LDS, my apologies my Aggie brother. I was always under the impression that it was a rule/mandate whatever you want to call it.

Might not be a mandate but show me the last time it happened, I’ll wait.

dirtnsnow · Post by **dirtnsnow** » April 12th, 2024, 10:41 am

https://www.deseret.com/sports/2019/10/ ... b-college/

It's on record as the process they follow, regardless of whether it is spelled out as a rule, mandate, policy, or otherwise. Head coaches have to be members, assistants do not.

ratofallaggies · Post by **ratofallaggies** » April 12th, 2024, 10:48 am

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:41 am
https://www.deseret.com/sports/2019/10/ ... b-college/

It's on record as the process they follow, regardless of whether it is spelled out as a rule, mandate, policy, or otherwise. Head coaches have to be members, assistants do not.

This... extremely unlikely that you see a head coach at byu that isn't a member of the church.

The Old Bull · Post by **The Old Bull** » April 12th, 2024, 11:00 am

ratofallaggies wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:48 am

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:41 am
https://www.deseret.com/sports/2019/10/ ... b-college/

It's on record as the process they follow, regardless of whether it is spelled out as a rule, mandate, policy, or otherwise. Head coaches have to be members, assistants do not.
This... extremely unlikely that you see a head coach at byu that isn't a member of the church.

Not sure what happened I was replying to someone else who brought up Crowton and it blew up when I tried to post. Maybe it was because I said I liked Crowton... he was coach at LaTech when I was in Ruston. I was disappointed he took the why job.

Anyway I don't have the energy to write the whole thing again... but I will just say. If they have to change to hire a qualified coach they will. It would have to be somebody they are comfortable with. I don't think they would have a problem hiring a guy like Dave Rice. I don't think they want to abandon the tradition but they will if they need to, especially now that they are in the big12...

greggers1868 · Post by **greggers1868** » April 12th, 2024, 11:08 am

The Old Bull wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 11:00 am

ratofallaggies wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:48 am

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:41 am
https://www.deseret.com/sports/2019/10/ ... b-college/

It's on record as the process they follow, regardless of whether it is spelled out as a rule, mandate, policy, or otherwise. Head coaches have to be members, assistants do not.
This... extremely unlikely that you see a head coach at byu that isn't a member of the church.
Not sure what happened I was replying to someone else who brought up Crowton and it blew up when I tried to post. Maybe it was because I said I liked Crowton... he was coach at LaTech when I was in Ruston. I was disappointed he took the why job.

Anyway I don't have the energy to write the whole thing again... but I will just say. If they have to change to hire a qualified coach they will. It would have to be somebody they are comfortable with. I don't think they would have a problem hiring a guy like Dave Rice. I don't think they want to abandon the tradition but they will if they need to, especially now that they are in the big12...

My bad, friend. I decided I didn’t really want to wade in to the weeds so I deleted my comment.

The Old Bull · Post by **The Old Bull** » April 12th, 2024, 11:13 am

greggers1868 wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 11:08 am

The Old Bull wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 11:00 am

ratofallaggies wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:48 am

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:41 am
https://www.deseret.com/sports/2019/10/ ... b-college/

It's on record as the process they follow, regardless of whether it is spelled out as a rule, mandate, policy, or otherwise. Head coaches have to be members, assistants do not.
This... extremely unlikely that you see a head coach at byu that isn't a member of the church.
Not sure what happened I was replying to someone else who brought up Crowton and it blew up when I tried to post. Maybe it was because I said I liked Crowton... he was coach at LaTech when I was in Ruston. I was disappointed he took the why job.

Anyway I don't have the energy to write the whole thing again... but I will just say. If they have to change to hire a qualified coach they will. It would have to be somebody they are comfortable with. I don't think they would have a problem hiring a guy like Dave Rice. I don't think they want to abandon the tradition but they will if they need to, especially now that they are in the big12...
My bad, friend. I decided I didn’t really want to wade in to the weeds so I deleted my comment.

No worries...

did you know Crowton was OC for the Chicago Bears when he was hired by byu?

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » April 12th, 2024, 11:14 am

This can't be true, I was told by ybu trolls that there was no way Pope would ever leave ybu because he loved it there

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » April 12th, 2024, 11:22 am

Wouldn't that make him the AntiPope?

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » April 12th, 2024, 11:45 am

USU78 wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 11:22 am
Wouldn't that make him the AntiPope?

The Old Bull · Post by **The Old Bull** » April 12th, 2024, 11:50 am

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:41 am
https://www.deseret.com/sports/2019/10/ ... b-college/

It's on record as the process they follow, regardless of whether it is spelled out as a rule, mandate, policy, or otherwise. Head coaches have to be members, assistants do not.

I’ll take your DNews article and raise you Ksl.

https://kslsports.com/514897/byu-basket ... basketball.

Quote from the article:
BYU has stated that it is not required to hire a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as head coach. However, history has shown that they hire members of the Church for the marquee head coach positions in football, men’s, and women’s basketball.

If they went against tradition, BYU assistant Cody Fueger deserves a call.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 12th, 2024, 11:57 am

Looks like Dallin Hall just entered the portal. He is a solid player. Wonder if Calhoun will reach out. If I remember correctly I thought someone mentioned that Dallin and Falslev were friends.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 12th, 2024, 12:01 pm

If they go against tradition it won't be now. It would be after they failed and had several bad seasons and had no other options. They'll give someone like barret peery a chance before they go the non-Mormon route.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 12th, 2024, 12:21 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 11:57 am
Looks like Dallin Hall just entered the portal. He is a solid player. Wonder if Calhoun will reach out. If I remember correctly I thought someone mentioned that Dallin and Falslev were friends.

Calling and offering Hall ASAP

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » April 12th, 2024, 12:26 pm

I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.

QuackAttackAggie · Post by **QuackAttackAggie** » April 12th, 2024, 12:27 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.

He's in the portal but I assume he has his hopes on Kentucky.

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dirtnsnow · Post by **dirtnsnow** » April 12th, 2024, 12:37 pm

The Old Bull wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 11:50 am

dirtnsnow wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:41 am
https://www.deseret.com/sports/2019/10/ ... b-college/

It's on record as the process they follow, regardless of whether it is spelled out as a rule, mandate, policy, or otherwise. Head coaches have to be members, assistants do not.
I’ll take your DNews article and raise you Ksl.

https://kslsports.com/514897/byu-basket ... basketball.

Quote from the article:
BYU has stated that it is not required to hire a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as head coach. However, history has shown that they hire members of the Church for the marquee head coach positions in football, men’s, and women’s basketball.

If they went against tradition, BYU assistant Cody Fueger deserves a call.

Interesting. Holmoe confirmed it as a practice, but it's the journalist in the dnews that came up with "must be" a member. So perhaps Holmoe's acting on word of mouth instructions without anything written in stone? That way both articles can be correct.

FeartheFro · Post by **FeartheFro** » April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.

I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.

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TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » April 12th, 2024, 12:49 pm

After all the talk about the Head Coach being a calling and the firesides the coaches do, I can't imagine them going with a non-member.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » April 12th, 2024, 1:11 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.
I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.
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Problem is, coach Calhoun doesn't have history here and probably wouldn't put emphasis on guys like Hall or Lohner. Which may or may not be a good thing. We'll see.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 12th, 2024, 1:14 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:49 pm
After all the talk about the Head Coach being a calling and the firesides the coaches do, I can't imagine them going with a non-member.

Their program would have to completely be in the toilet for them to do that. Even then I don't know. They were pretty terrible at the end of the Roger Reid days and they still hired a community college college coach instead of going for a non-Mormon.

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