Pope to Kentucky

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 12th, 2024, 1:27 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 1:11 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.
I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.
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Problem is, coach Calhoun doesn't have history here and probably wouldn't put emphasis on guys like Hall or Lohner. Which may or may not be a good thing. We'll see.

Some players on the team know Hall. Isaac Johnson and Mason Falslev could recruit Hall.

SectionBAggie · Post by **SectionBAggie** » April 12th, 2024, 1:43 pm

If a potential student enrolls at BYU while not a member, they require an LDS leader endorsement in which they commit to living by the Honor Code - no smoking, no drinking, no sex, etc. It would be VERY awkward to have a head coach that didn't comply with those rules recruiting players and telling them that they have to comply. So although actual membership may not be a requirement, living that lifestyle is a requirement and I am sure that it why the "practice" is in place even without a policy.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 12th, 2024, 1:57 pm

It is nice to see other fan bases have to go through the misery of losing head coaches and seeing their team get blown up. As Aggies we have become accustomed to it over the last several years so its nice to see others get the same opportunity.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 12th, 2024, 2:11 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 1:57 pm
It is nice to see other fan bases have to go through the misery of losing head coaches and seeing their team get blown up. As Aggies we have become accustomed to it over the last several years so its nice to see others get the same opportunity.

Especially now with players being freely able to leave. It used to be when a coaching change happened you knew you weren't going to be losing your roster. Not saying Gary 1.0 wouldn't have won at USU, but he definitely benefitted from having guys like Wagner and Turbin already in the program to get the winning momentum going.

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » April 12th, 2024, 2:16 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 1:43 pm
If a potential student enrolls at BYU while not a member, they require an LDS leader endorsement in which they commit to living by the Honor Code - no smoking, no drinking, no sex, etc. It would be VERY awkward to have a head coach that didn't comply with those rules recruiting players and telling them that they have to comply. So although actual membership may not be a requirement, living that lifestyle is a requirement and I am sure that it why the "practice" is in place even without a policy.

Good point. I very strongly doubt we'll see a non-LDS head coach at BYU until the honor code is done away with.

bigblue32 · Post by **bigblue32** » April 12th, 2024, 2:21 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 2:16 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 1:43 pm
If a potential student enrolls at BYU while not a member, they require an LDS leader endorsement in which they commit to living by the Honor Code - no smoking, no drinking, no sex, etc. It would be VERY awkward to have a head coach that didn't comply with those rules recruiting players and telling them that they have to comply. So although actual membership may not be a requirement, living that lifestyle is a requirement and I am sure that it why the "practice" is in place even without a policy.
Good point. I very strongly doubt we'll see a non-LDS head coach at BYU until the honor code is done away with.

They’d sooner close up the athletics department

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 12th, 2024, 2:37 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 2:16 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 1:43 pm
If a potential student enrolls at BYU while not a member, they require an LDS leader endorsement in which they commit to living by the Honor Code - no smoking, no drinking, no sex, etc. It would be VERY awkward to have a head coach that didn't comply with those rules recruiting players and telling them that they have to comply. So although actual membership may not be a requirement, living that lifestyle is a requirement and I am sure that it why the "practice" is in place even without a policy.
Good point. I very strongly doubt we'll see a non-LDS head coach at BYU until the honor code is done away with.

It would be really awkward to run the program if you didn't believe it yourself. Not saying it doesn't happen at certain places, but imagine being the coach of byu during 2011 when you have the best team maybe in your history and you have to suspend one of your best players for something that is no big deal almost anywhere else? If you aren't a believer an experience like that would drive you insane.

Post by **GeoAg** » April 12th, 2024, 2:58 pm

The guy I would like to see come our way from the coaching change down there is Isaac Davis

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » April 12th, 2024, 3:03 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 2:37 pm
It would be really awkward to run the program if you didn't believe it yourself. Not saying it doesn't happen at certain places, but imagine being the coach of byu during 2011 when you have the best team maybe in your history and you have to suspend one of your best players for something that is no big deal almost anywhere else? If you aren't a believer an experience like that would drive you insane.

One thing related to the honor code not being a big deal anywhere else is that most NFL teams actually laughed when Jamaal Williams told them what he got in trouble for doing at BYU.

StanfordAggie · Post by **StanfordAggie** » April 12th, 2024, 7:38 pm

I remember Stew saying that he had some brief conversations with BYU after Steve Cleveland left for Fresno. They told him that he had to have a temple recommend to be hired by BYU. (Stew is/was LDS, although he didn't have a temple recommend and wasn't interested in obtaining one.) So I think the de facto requirement is that head coaches have to be LDS and temple worthy.

On a totally unrelated note, I read an article that said that Billy Donovan had at least some interest in the Kentucky job but said he didn't want to have any serious negotiations until the Bulls' season is over (which could happen as early as next Wednesday). Kentucky told him to pound sand and went with Pope instead. Wow. Maybe they thought he wasn't a serious candidate and didn't want to lose all their players if they left the position vacant for too long. But I'm trying to imagine how an AD who values his job would decide to pass up Billy Donovan in favor of Mark Pope.

kenpo · Post by **kenpo** » April 13th, 2024, 11:32 am

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 7:38 pm
I remember Stew saying that he had some brief conversations with BYU after Steve Cleveland left for Fresno. They told him that he had to have a temple recommend to be hired by BYU. (Stew is/was LDS, although he didn't have a temple recommend and wasn't interested in obtaining one.) So I think the de facto requirement is that head coaches have to be LDS and temple worthy.

On a totally unrelated note, I read an article that said that Billy Donovan had at least some interest in the Kentucky job but said he didn't want to have any serious negotiations until the Bulls' season is over (which could happen as early as next Wednesday). Kentucky told him to pound sand and went with Pope instead. Wow. Maybe they thought he wasn't a serious candidate and didn't want to lose all their players if they left the position vacant for too long. But I'm trying to imagine how an AD who values his job would decide to pass up Billy Donovan in favor of Mark Pope.

I'm not sure that you have that right. The rule is if you are a member, you need a temple recommend at ybu. Of course non-members can't have a recommend.

StanfordAggie · Post by **StanfordAggie** » April 13th, 2024, 2:21 pm

kenpo wrote: ↑
April 13th, 2024, 11:32 am

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 7:38 pm
I remember Stew saying that he had some brief conversations with BYU after Steve Cleveland left for Fresno. They told him that he had to have a temple recommend to be hired by BYU. (Stew is/was LDS, although he didn't have a temple recommend and wasn't interested in obtaining one.) So I think the de facto requirement is that head coaches have to be LDS and temple worthy.

On a totally unrelated note, I read an article that said that Billy Donovan had at least some interest in the Kentucky job but said he didn't want to have any serious negotiations until the Bulls' season is over (which could happen as early as next Wednesday). Kentucky told him to pound sand and went with Pope instead. Wow. Maybe they thought he wasn't a serious candidate and didn't want to lose all their players if they left the position vacant for too long. But I'm trying to imagine how an AD who values his job would decide to pass up Billy Donovan in favor of Mark Pope.
I'm not sure that you have that right. The rule is if you are a member, you need a temple recommend at ybu. Of course non-members can't have a recommend.

Good point. I guess my point was that simply being LDS isn't sufficient. You have to have a temple recommend as well.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 14th, 2024, 10:56 am

Chris Burgess gonna be the guy for BYU.

QuackAttackAggie · Post by **QuackAttackAggie** » April 14th, 2024, 11:14 am

ineptimusprime wrote:Chris Burgess gonna be the guy for BYU.

He's the only option that isn't a complete failure imo

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ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 14th, 2024, 12:26 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 11:14 am

ineptimusprime wrote:Chris Burgess gonna be the guy for BYU.
He's the only option that isn't a complete failure imo

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Which ironically, is what he was to Mormons everywhere when he didn’t commit to Roger Reid and BYU in his playing days.

Oh how the tables have turned

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » April 14th, 2024, 12:31 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.
I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.

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Were you guys in the same Freemont High School class with the same teacher?

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » April 14th, 2024, 12:33 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 12:31 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.
I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.

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We you guys in the same Freemont High School class with the same teacher?

Were you guys there when there was the fight over saved seats at church?

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » April 14th, 2024, 12:38 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 12:33 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 12:31 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.
I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.

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We you guys in the same Freemont High School class with the same teacher?
Were you guys there when there was the fight over saved seats at church?

I haven't been to Plain City since 2008 but below are links to the fight you are referencing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... space.html

https://www.fox13now.com/2013/07/01/pol ... lds-church

FeartheFro · Post by **FeartheFro** » April 14th, 2024, 1:17 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote:
FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.
I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.

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Were you guys in the same Freemont High School class with the same teacher?

Class of 82 baby!!

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GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » April 14th, 2024, 1:27 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 12:38 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 12:33 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 12:31 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.
I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.

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We you guys in the same Freemont High School class with the same teacher?
Were you guys there when there was the fight over saved seats at church?
I haven't been to Plain City since 2008 but below are links to the fight you are referencing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... space.html

https://www.fox13now.com/2013/07/01/pol ... lds-church

Yeah I have read all the articles that are out there about the fight. I thought it sounded funny but I know the bishop of the ward didn't think it was funny. I also heard he didn't want to appear on the news to talk about it but he gave in and did it cause the pressured him and pressured him into doing it.

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » April 14th, 2024, 1:29 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 1:17 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote:
FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.
I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.

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Were you guys in the same Freemont High School class with the same teacher?
Class of 82 baby!!

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They didn't have have Fremont in 82. Kids in Plain City back then went to Weber. Next year, some of the Fremont population will be reassigned to the new Westfield high.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » April 14th, 2024, 1:48 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 1:17 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote:
FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.
I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.

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Were you guys in the same Freemont High School class with the same teacher?
Class of 82 baby!!

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So, Weber High?

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » April 15th, 2024, 3:11 am

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 12:38 pm

GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 12:33 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 12:31 pm

FeartheFro wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 12:42 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote:I would very much like seeing Dallin Hall transfer to Utah State.
I was sitting right next to Dallin when he was visiting Utah State as a junior in high school. Based on our conversation I would have bet money he was going to commit to USU. He loved the atmosphere and commented how much he would love playing here. It didn’t happen but I know USU was high on his list of potential schools.

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We you guys in the same Freemont High School class with the same teacher?
Were you guys there when there was the fight over saved seats at church?
I haven't been to Plain City since 2008 but below are links to the fight you are referencing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... space.html

https://www.fox13now.com/2013/07/01/pol ... lds-church

I know it's immature, but it's kinda funny when someone gets hit by a Dodge.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » April 15th, 2024, 9:14 pm

If byu pulls off this Kevin Young hire that’s a great get for them.

He was a finalist for the Nets job, is highly respected, and is considered to be on the fast track to an NBA head coaching job.

Chris Burgess was very underwhelming. But Kevin Young is a different ballgame.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 15th, 2024, 9:26 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:14 pm
If byu pulls off this Kevin Young hire that’s a great get for them.

He was a finalist for the Nets job, is highly respected, and is considered to be on the fast track to an NBA head coaching job.

Chris Burgess was very underwhelming. But Kevin Young is a different ballgame.

I still dont get the love for Chris Burgess. Utah hasn't exactly lit the world on fire since he became an assistant there

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » April 15th, 2024, 9:35 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:26 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:14 pm
If byu pulls off this Kevin Young hire that’s a great get for them.

He was a finalist for the Nets job, is highly respected, and is considered to be on the fast track to an NBA head coaching job.

Chris Burgess was very underwhelming. But Kevin Young is a different ballgame.
I still dont get the love for Chris Burgess. Utah hasn't exactly lit the world on fire since he became an assistant there

There is not a lot of love for Burgess. He is just the only realistic option that will A)go the byu. And B) had not already failed as a head coach or have some other big red flag. And C) is LDS.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » April 15th, 2024, 11:28 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:35 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:26 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:14 pm
If byu pulls off this Kevin Young hire that’s a great get for them.

He was a finalist for the Nets job, is highly respected, and is considered to be on the fast track to an NBA head coaching job.

Chris Burgess was very underwhelming. But Kevin Young is a different ballgame.
I still dont get the love for Chris Burgess. Utah hasn't exactly lit the world on fire since he became an assistant there
There is not a lot of love for Burgess. He is just the only realistic option that will A)go the byu. And B) had not already failed as a head coach or have some other big red flag. And C) is LDS.

Just ybu fans trying to make lemonade out of dogsh*t

AndroidAggie · Post by **AndroidAggie** » April 16th, 2024, 5:05 am

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 12:26 pm
Which ironically, is what he was to Mormons everywhere when he didn’t commit to Roger Reid and BYU in his playing days.

Oh how the tables have turned

nuh uh. i'm a mormon now and i was then. and i didn't even know who he was at the time nor would i have cared. obviously, you meant your statement very literally and mathematically so i'm taking it that way.

edaw33 · Post by **edaw33** » April 16th, 2024, 8:29 am

Collin Chandler just de-committed from BYU and is joining Pope in Kentucky. YBU fan base is melting down. Great to see it after all the crap they threw our way as Danny was leaving.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » April 16th, 2024, 8:34 am

That probably just means that they will overpay to keep some of their players now.

gomretat · Post by **gomretat** » April 16th, 2024, 9:11 am

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:35 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:26 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:14 pm
If byu pulls off this Kevin Young hire that’s a great get for them.

He was a finalist for the Nets job, is highly respected, and is considered to be on the fast track to an NBA head coaching job.

Chris Burgess was very underwhelming. But Kevin Young is a different ballgame.
I still dont get the love for Chris Burgess. Utah hasn't exactly lit the world on fire since he became an assistant there
There is not a lot of love for Burgess. He is just the only realistic option that will A)go the byu. And B) had not already failed as a head coach or have some other big red flag. And C) is LDS.

I wonder how Burgess will do as a head coach - it doesnt seem like it fits his personality. But IMO he is a very good big man coach and a great recruiter. If I were him I would be following Pope to Kentucky.

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » April 16th, 2024, 9:14 am

Hopefully Burgess is perfectly mediocre.

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » April 16th, 2024, 9:26 am

Collin Chandler is the real deal. That one's gotta really sting.

I get the feeling that BYU might have some pretty rough years coming up.

Post by **aggies22** » April 16th, 2024, 9:34 am

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 9:26 am
Collin Chandler is the real deal. That one's gotta really sting.

I get the feeling that BYU might have some pretty rough years coming up.

I think most here know that nothing would make me happier but as we proved last season, your fortune can change in a hurry in hoops.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 16th, 2024, 9:36 am

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 9:26 am
Collin Chandler is the real deal. That one's gotta really sting.

I get the feeling that BYU might have some pretty rough years coming up.

Utah and BYU are sinking ships.

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