Don't get the player hate

NAggsty Butler · Post by **NAggsty Butler** » December 4th, 2024, 11:16 am

I can understand the hate when a coach like Smith, Sprinkle, or Odom leave after a short time here, especially when they don't really embrace the university or the fans, but I have a hard time understanding why people throw so much hate on players that had a good-great relationship with the university/fanbase and leave when a good opportunity arises. Great is the most recent example- by all accounts he really enjoyed his time here, the fanbase loved him, and everybody saw it coming when he announced he was leaving (really hard to fault a kid for leaving for $2 mil). Why does everyone want to see him fail? I don't consider myself a Great groupie by any means, but I also don't get why everybody seems to hate the kid. I hope the best for him. I'm fine with mocking Washington for losing, but that is more for Sprinkle than for Great.

As for players like Collette, screw that guy.

Post by **treesap32** » December 4th, 2024, 11:28 am

I wish him the best. More power to him for getting the largest NIL payday in the history of college basketball. Made me proud that Utah State helped him get into prominence.

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » December 4th, 2024, 11:38 am

I think some people like to laugh at Great's poor showings at Washington more cause of the Washington boosters getting a poor ROI and less cause of USU being where he was at last year. I don't think as many people hate guys who leave for reasons other than $$$ as long as they end up somewhere other than Utah or BYU.

pilotaggie · Post by **pilotaggie** » December 4th, 2024, 11:38 am

I didn't think anyone is mad at Great. We probably wish we could have kept him but that's life in this new world. The frustrating ones happen when a guy leaves 3 days before the season starts, or it pretty clearly looks like tampering. Especially when they wind up at another Utah school.

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Full · Post by **Full** » December 4th, 2024, 11:47 am

Another reason people bring it up is to point out the grass isn’t always greener. I think most fans understand it’s a business decision, but when you decide it’s better to move on and it doesn’t work out fans will use that as further evidence that transferring often doesn’t work out like you hope. Those teams paying big NIL$$$ are brining players in to compete for a spot, and probably one you have the inside track on at USU.

WAAggie · Post by **WAAggie** » December 4th, 2024, 12:02 pm

Great is/was a fine player. My enjoyment is not his poor start but the fact UW spent so much money for a bball player. Kind of like the TDS and their ‘lottery’ player.

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ajm · Post by **ajm** » December 4th, 2024, 12:10 pm

I still love Great and I can't blame him for leaving. (any of us would for 2 million)

But as good as he was, 2 million was steep for him.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » December 4th, 2024, 12:16 pm

I watched about 3 minutes of their game last night. I thought they had lost more than one game (before last night) based on the comments of this board. Great seemed fine, pretty typical for him. He always flopped around, had lazy streaks, and turned the ball over. He also made a nice play. I then watched Elf for the 10th time this holiday season.

AndroidAggie · Post by **AndroidAggie** » December 4th, 2024, 12:18 pm

i'm with you, @NAggsty Butler

i think people are trying to vent their frustration that we had such a talented player and coach but couldn't retain them here. makes me feel powerless and helpless to elevate USU's program profile for hte long term, but i can't speak for others.

but it doesn't come across that way to me.

@NVAggie elf? i'm more of a home alone man, myself. also 8 bit Christmas has been rising in popularity at our house.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » December 4th, 2024, 12:20 pm

Honestly, now that I think about it, I think it was Uncle Buck.

I also watch Home Alone many many times.

Mr. Sneelock · Post by **Mr. Sneelock** » December 4th, 2024, 1:54 pm

I don't hate Great, and I don't blame him for doing what he did. That doesn't mean I can't take a little joy in the team he went to struggling.

cval · Post by **cval** » December 4th, 2024, 2:06 pm

The glee is more about Washington and Sprinkle than about Great.

aggieref · Post by **aggieref** » December 4th, 2024, 2:37 pm

It's hard to see a Great player or even coach leave your program, but at the same time how could a player or coach not leave if they are being offered Monopoly money to play somewhere else. It still hurts though. I am torn because I want them to succeed but I don't want their investment to pay off.....tricky subject.

pilotaggie · Post by **pilotaggie** » December 4th, 2024, 2:38 pm

AndroidAggie wrote: ↑
December 4th, 2024, 12:18 pm
i'm with you, @NAggsty Butler

i think people are trying to vent their frustration that we had such a talented player and coach but couldn't retain them here. makes me feel powerless and helpless to elevate USU's program profile for hte long term, but i can't speak for others.

but it doesn't come across that way to me.

@NVAggie elf? i'm more of a home alone man, myself. also 8 bit Christmas has been rising in popularity at our house.

8 Bit and Elf take the cake in our house right now. But I do love sending out my yearly text of "Turn on the news! There is a hostage situation at Nakatomi Plaza!" every Christmas EVe while wrapping the last of the presents.

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » December 4th, 2024, 4:44 pm

NVAggie wrote: ↑
December 4th, 2024, 12:20 pm
Honestly, now that I think about it, I think it was Uncle Buck.

I also watch Home Alone many many times.

It's always better to spend your holiday evenings at Nakatome Tower.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » December 4th, 2024, 5:07 pm

I only watch it on TV

Ahbye · Post by **Ahbye** » December 5th, 2024, 12:34 am

I'll tell you exactly why I'm not a fan: I'm an Aggie. If we put in the effort and money to build your career and give you a shot, you better show some damn loyalty. That's for starters. In Great's case, however, I'm agnostic towards him, but my enmity towards all things Washington peaked when those awful little girls on their soccer team did something unforgivable that I won't mention here after their game against us last month. With no repercussions whatsoever. I'll gleefully welcome anything bad that comes that school's way for years to come.

On a general note, I'm not a guy that is comfortable with the pedestals we place athletes upon. When I see grown men wearing the jerseys of these kids, idolizing them, becoming star-struck and elbowing actual kids to the side just to get close to these players it makes me want to puke in shame. When we get grown men asking event staff to move out of the way so they can high five the players as they go into the tunnels, it's ample evidence of how weak some of the men in our country have become. It's absolutely insane. If you want to understand what ruined college athletics, start with those dudes. They were the ones paying for access under the table, which begat NIL. Is there more than a handful of NIL contracts that actually result in any profit for the donor? What an awful business decision, just to get access to a kid that is deft with a ball. I've never understood it and I think it's pathetic. We'll win without either of those groups.

Anyhow, I hope that answers your question from one perspective.

StanfordAggie · Post by **StanfordAggie** » December 5th, 2024, 12:44 am

Ahbye wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 12:34 am
I'll tell you exactly why I'm not a fan: I'm an Aggie. If we put in the effort and money to build your career and give you a shot, you better show some damn loyalty. That's for starters. In Great's case, however, I'm agnostic towards him, but my enmity towards all things Washington peaked when those awful little girls on their soccer team did something unforgivable that I won't mention here after their game against us last month. With no repercussions whatsoever. I'll gleefully welcome anything bad that comes that school's way for years to come.

On a general note, I'm not a guy that is comfortable with the pedestals we place athletes upon. When I see grown men wearing the jerseys of these kids, idolizing them, becoming star-struck and elbowing actual kids to the side just to get close to these players it makes me want to puke in shame. When we get grown men asking event staff to move out of the way so they can high five the players as they go into the tunnels, it's ample evidence of how weak some of the men in our country have become. It's absolutely insane. If you want to understand what ruined college athletics, start with those dudes. They were the ones paying for access under the table, which begat NIL. Is there more than a handful of NIL contracts that actually result in any profit for the donor? What an awful business decision, just to get access to a kid that is deft with a ball. I've never understood it and I think it's pathetic. We'll win without either of those groups.

Anyhow, I hope that answers your question from one perspective.

Wait, did I miss something, or is this new information? Because if it gives me a reason to hate Washington, I'd love to hear more about it.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » December 5th, 2024, 7:24 am

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 12:44 am

Ahbye wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 12:34 am
I'll tell you exactly why I'm not a fan: I'm an Aggie. If we put in the effort and money to build your career and give you a shot, you better show some damn loyalty. That's for starters. In Great's case, however, I'm agnostic towards him, but my enmity towards all things Washington peaked when those awful little girls on their soccer team did something unforgivable that I won't mention here after their game against us last month. With no repercussions whatsoever. I'll gleefully welcome anything bad that comes that school's way for years to come.

On a general note, I'm not a guy that is comfortable with the pedestals we place athletes upon. When I see grown men wearing the jerseys of these kids, idolizing them, becoming star-struck and elbowing actual kids to the side just to get close to these players it makes me want to puke in shame. When we get grown men asking event staff to move out of the way so they can high five the players as they go into the tunnels, it's ample evidence of how weak some of the men in our country have become. It's absolutely insane. If you want to understand what ruined college athletics, start with those dudes. They were the ones paying for access under the table, which begat NIL. Is there more than a handful of NIL contracts that actually result in any profit for the donor? What an awful business decision, just to get access to a kid that is deft with a ball. I've never understood it and I think it's pathetic. We'll win without either of those groups.

Anyhow, I hope that answers your question from one perspective.
Wait, did I miss something, or is this new information? Because if it gives me a reason to hate Washington, I'd love to hear more about it.

I hadn’t heard anything and I don’t hate Washington but I’m definitely open to the idea. I think I have room in my life for a little hate.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » December 5th, 2024, 8:51 am

Ahbye wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 12:34 am
I'll tell you exactly why I'm not a fan: I'm an Aggie. If we put in the effort and money to build your career and give you a shot, you better show some damn loyalty. That's for starters. In Great's case, however, I'm agnostic towards him, but my enmity towards all things Washington peaked when those awful little girls on their soccer team did something unforgivable that I won't mention here after their game against us last month. With no repercussions whatsoever. I'll gleefully welcome anything bad that comes that school's way for years to come.

On a general note, I'm not a guy that is comfortable with the pedestals we place athletes upon. When I see grown men wearing the jerseys of these kids, idolizing them, becoming star-struck and elbowing actual kids to the side just to get close to these players it makes me want to puke in shame. When we get grown men asking event staff to move out of the way so they can high five the players as they go into the tunnels, it's ample evidence of how weak some of the men in our country have become. It's absolutely insane. If you want to understand what ruined college athletics, start with those dudes. They were the ones paying for access under the table, which begat NIL. Is there more than a handful of NIL contracts that actually result in any profit for the donor? What an awful business decision, just to get access to a kid that is deft with a ball. I've never understood it and I think it's pathetic. We'll win without either of those groups.

Anyhow, I hope that answers your question from one perspective.

tl;dr Ahbye is pissy and petty.

This is super shocking for anyone who's had the pleasure of being in chat during a game with Ahbye, who is totally hinged and level-headed.

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » December 5th, 2024, 8:57 am

I was at the Washington soccer game. One thing that did happen was at the end of the game, the girls ran over to the north end of the field where there is the group of the Hurd students in the bleachers and waved good bye talking trash that they won.

Aggie702 · Post by **Aggie702** » December 5th, 2024, 9:12 am

GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 8:57 am
I was at the Washington soccer game. One thing that did happen was at the end of the game, the girls ran over to the north end of the field where there is the group of the Hurd students in the bleachers and waved good bye talking trash that they won.

This doesn't bother me. I'd do the same in that scenario. You go on the road and beat a higher ranked/seeded team in an elimination game, you've earned the right to talk trash. Just don't plant your flag at midfield. That's going too far

StanfordAggie · Post by **StanfordAggie** » December 5th, 2024, 11:29 am

Aggie702 wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 9:12 am

GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 8:57 am
I was at the Washington soccer game. One thing that did happen was at the end of the game, the girls ran over to the north end of the field where there is the group of the Hurd students in the bleachers and waved good bye talking trash that they won.
This doesn't bother me. I'd do the same in that scenario. You go on the road and beat a higher ranked/seeded team in an elimination game, you've earned the right to talk trash. Just don't plant your flag at midfield. That's going too far

And I'm sure that the Hurd said nothing but nice things about the Washington players up until that point. I don't have a major problem with players talking a little trash to fans after a road win, particularly if the fans have been harassing them during the game. But it sounded like Ahbye was hinting that it was something worse than that.

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » December 5th, 2024, 11:32 am

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 11:29 am

Aggie702 wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 9:12 am

GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 8:57 am
I was at the Washington soccer game. One thing that did happen was at the end of the game, the girls ran over to the north end of the field where there is the group of the Hurd students in the bleachers and waved good bye talking trash that they won.
This doesn't bother me. I'd do the same in that scenario. You go on the road and beat a higher ranked/seeded team in an elimination game, you've earned the right to talk trash. Just don't plant your flag at midfield. That's going too far
And I'm sure that the Hurd said nothing but nice things about the Washington players up until that point. I don't have a major problem with players talking a little trash to fans after a road win, particularly if the fans have been harassing them during the game. But it sounded like Ahbye was hinting that it was something worse than that.

Yeah, it was provoked by what the Hurd was saying to them during the game.

Ahbye · Post by **Ahbye** » December 7th, 2024, 12:56 am

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 8:51 am

Ahbye wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2024, 12:34 am
I'll tell you exactly why I'm not a fan: I'm an Aggie. If we put in the effort and money to build your career and give you a shot, you better show some damn loyalty. That's for starters. In Great's case, however, I'm agnostic towards him, but my enmity towards all things Washington peaked when those awful little girls on their soccer team did something unforgivable that I won't mention here after their game against us last month. With no repercussions whatsoever. I'll gleefully welcome anything bad that comes that school's way for years to come.

On a general note, I'm not a guy that is comfortable with the pedestals we place athletes upon. When I see grown men wearing the jerseys of these kids, idolizing them, becoming star-struck and elbowing actual kids to the side just to get close to these players it makes me want to puke in shame. When we get grown men asking event staff to move out of the way so they can high five the players as they go into the tunnels, it's ample evidence of how weak some of the men in our country have become. It's absolutely insane. If you want to understand what ruined college athletics, start with those dudes. They were the ones paying for access under the table, which begat NIL. Is there more than a handful of NIL contracts that actually result in any profit for the donor? What an awful business decision, just to get access to a kid that is deft with a ball. I've never understood it and I think it's pathetic. We'll win without either of those groups.

Anyhow, I hope that answers your question from one perspective.
tl;dr Ahbye is pissy and petty.

This is super shocking for anyone who's had the pleasure of being in chat during a game with Ahbye, who is totally hinged and level-headed.

I'm gonna need you to pull yourself together. You're jumping around like a started cat every time I post.

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